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History

The name TOMOS is from TÔvarna (factory) MÔtornih koles (motorcycles) Sezana (city in western Yugoslavia). TOMOS began in Sezana but later moved to Koper, Yugoslavia.

former-Yugoslavia nations

Slovenia was a republic of Yugoslavia until March 1991, when it became an independent country, the Republic of Slovenia. Here is the historic district of Koper, Slovenia in 2004.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1955: TOMOS began

1956 to 1981+ Puch remakes: From 1956 to 1981 Tomos made, under license, mopeds and motorcycles that were exact copies of Puch models. Until 1973 the Puch remakes were called Colibri 1,2,3, up to 15. After 1973 most were called APN. They had 2, 3, and 4-speed manual transmission. Pedal models had left-hand grip-shift. Kick models had foot shift.

1973 to 1974 Tomos A3: In 1973 Tomos introduced their own stamped steel frame, engine, and wheels, the 1973 Automatic 1, a one speed. A two speed version soon followed, the 1973 Automatic 3, and the 1974 Automatic 3K. These went 28mph, made 2.0 horsepower, and weighed 97 lbs. The A3 pedaled forward like a bicycle, yet started the engine by kicking backwards. There is no start lever on a Tomos.

1991 was the break up of former Yugoslavia, after years of civil war, into eight independent countries.

 

Inside the Tomos plant in 2004.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yamaha Cables

December 1, 2020

Yamaha QT50

Yamaha Cables

The throttle and choke cables on Yamaha are longer than most, because they go inside the frame, first way down low, then up high and then down again, like a roller coaster. That gives the bike a clean look, and a convenient low step-thru frame. But the bottom low part traps water. This happens with many other cables that go way low then up, like all scooters have.

 

1979-87 Yamaha QT50 choke cable $22

 

 

 

 

 

Vespa Cables

December 1, 2020

 

 

Here are the 1968 to 1985 USA-model mopeds, made in Italy by Piaggio, and their controls, made in Italy by Domino. 

 Domino VB left control VA "60s chrome" sliding-block throttle and brake control silver (no throttle spring)
Ciao and controls (left, right)

 
Ciao Deluxe and controls (left, right)

 Ciao Bravo Grande (no blinkers) L control Ciao, Bravo, Grande no blinkers R control
Bravo and controls (left, right)

 Bravo w/blinkers Bravo R control
Bravo Deluxe and controls (left, right)

 Ciao Bravo Grande (no blinkers) L control Ciao, Bravo, Grande no blinkers R control
Grande and controls (left, right)

 Grande left control Grande right control
Grande Deluxe and controls (left, right)

 Ciao Bravo Grande (no blinkers) L control Ciao, Bravo, Grande no blinkers R control
Si and controls (left, right)

 
Ciao PX and controls (left, right)

 

Brake cable holes are bottomless threaded. They require threaded adjusters. Other ’70’s Domino controls have threadless holes with bottoms, that do not need adjusters.

Throttle and start cable holes are threadless bottomed. No adjusters required.

 

 

Cables

 

price color: bright green is new, dark green is good-used.

 


Piaggio# price  length wire  Front Brake cables and parts

103204  $12.0 21x26 ∅2.0 original cable silver ’68-71 Ciao caliper
103204r $11.0 21x26 ∅1.5 replacement  grey 
103205  $7.00 21x26 ∅2.0 orig. inner wire (conduit is 103207)

000000  $15.0 41x53 ∅2.0 original cable silver ’68-71 Ciao drum
000000r $13.0 41x53 ∅1.5 replacement  grey   see note 1
000000 $7.00 41x53 ∅2.0 orig. inner wire

135015  none  41x49 ∅2.0 original cable silver ’72-80 Ciao
135015r $11.0 41x49 ∅1.5 replacement  grey 
135014  $7.00 41x49 ∅2.0 orig. inner wire (conduit is 135016)

136134  none  37x44 ∅2.0 original cable silver ’77-80 Bravo
136134r $11.0 37x44 ∅1.5 replacement  grey 
136135  $7.00 37x44 ∅2.0 orig. inner wire (conduit is 136136)

353860  $9.00 37x44 ∅2.0 original cable black ’78-83 Grande
353860r $10.0 37x44 ∅1.5 replacement   black
353861  $7.00 37x44 ∅2.0 orig. inner wire (conduit is 353862)

185602  $13.0 38x52 ∅2.0 original cable black ’79-85 Si
185602r $10.0 38x52 ∅1.5 replacement   black
118310  $7.00 38x52 ∅2.0 repl. inner wire (conduit is 185604)

187023  none  41x49 ∅2.0 original cable black ’80-86 Ciao PX
187023r $10.0 41x49 ∅1.5 replacement   black
135014  $7.00 41x49 ∅2.0 original inner wire

090511 $1.50 F1c cable nipple (step ferrule) ∅5-8 x 12
103964 $9-$5 A3a adjuster original M6 round no slot
103964 $3.00 A2a adjuster substitute M6 hex no slot   
114282 $4.00 D14 anchor pin (socket bolt)
154533 $12.0 P21 clamp assy (loop pinch bolt) M7 ∅11

 


Piaggio# price  length wire  Rear Brake cables and parts

103209  none  46x65 ∅2.0 original cable silver ’68-80 Ciao
103209r $12.0 46x65 ∅1.5 replacement  grey 
103210  $7.00 46x65 ∅2.0 WR2 inner wire (conduit is 103211)

135791  none  52x67 ∅2.0 original cable silver ’77-80 Bravo
135791r $12.0 52x67 ∅1.5 replacement  grey 
135792  $7.00 52x67 ∅2.0 WR2 inner wire (conduit is 135793)

353863  none  52x67 ∅2.0 original cable black ’78-83 Grande
353863r $11.0 52x67 ∅1.5 replacement    black
353864  $7.00 52x67 ∅2.0 WR2 inner wire (conduit is 353861)

185605  none  47x68 ∅2.0 original cable black ’79-85 Si
185605r $11.0 47x68 ∅1.5 replacement   black
185606  $7.00 47x68 ∅2.0 WR2 inner wire (conduit is 185607)

187025  none  46x65 ∅2.0 original cable black ’80-86 Ciao PX
187025r $11.0 46x65 ∅1.5 replacement   black
103210 $7.00 46x65 ∅2.0 WR2 inner wire

090511 $1.50 F1c cable nipple (step ferrule) ∅5-8 x 12
103964 $9-$5 A3a adjuster original M6 round no slot
103964 $3.00 A2a adjuster substitute M6 hex no slot   
114282 $4.00 D14 anchor pin (socket bolt)
154533 $12.0 P21 clamp assy (loop pinch bolt) M7 ∅11

 


Piaggio# price  length wire  Throttle cables and parts

103220  none  42x46 ∅1.2 original cable silver ’68-80 Ciao
103220r $11.0 42x47 ∅1.2 replacement  grey 
103221  $6.00 42x47 ∅1.2 WT1 inner wire (conduit is 103222)

135797  $13.0 38x42 ∅1.2 original cable silver ’77-80 Bravo
135797r $11.0 38x47 ∅1.2 replacement  grey
135798  $6.00 38x47 ∅1.2 WT1 inner wire (conduit is 135799)

353869  none  39x43 ∅1.2 original cable black ’78-83 Grande
353869r $10.0 39x47 ∅1.2 replacement  black
353871  $6.00 39x47 ∅1.2 WT1 inner wire 

185611  none  43x46 ∅1.2 original cable black ’79-85 Si
185611r $10.0 43x47 ∅1.2 replacement  black
103221  $6.00 43x47 ∅1.2 WT1 inner wire (conduit is 185613)

187027  none  42x46 ∅1.2 original cable black ’80-86 Ciao PX
187027r $12.0 42x47 ∅1.2 replacement  black  
103221  $6.00 42x47 ∅1.2 WT1 inner wire 

098128 $5.00 1. adjuster A13 with nut M5-0.75
120074 $3.00 2. lock nut M5-0.75 special thread
113903 $6.00 3. cable pipe bare 2ar replica
120073 $2.00 4. lock nut M6-0.75 special thread
098130 $3.00 5. spring Ø5 x 7 x 12 

 


Piaggio# price    length   wire  Decomp cables  see note 2

103217  $27.0 33.7 35.6 ∅1.2 original cable silver ’68-80 Ciao,
103217r $23.0 33.7 35.6 ∅1.2 replacement grey and ’77-80 Bravo

353866  $27.0 41.7 45.1 ∅1.2 original cable black ’78-83 Grande
353866r $23.0 41.7 45.1 ∅1.2 replacement black  see note 3

212687  $27.0 33.7 35.6 ∅1.2 original cable black ’79-85 Si
212687r $23.0 33.7 35.6 ∅1.2 replacement black

140594  none  35.7 37.6 ∅1.2 original cable black ’80-86 Ciao PX
140594r $23.0 35.7 37.6 ∅1.2 replacement black

114283 $4.00 D14b replacement anchor pin
113243 $8.00 decomp cable hook plate

 

 

Note 1. The original cable was for a inline brake light switch. But when the 4 inch conduit piece is removed, the cable is also for no inline brake switch.

Note 2. 114282 (left) and 114283 (right) are original Domino anchor pins (socket bolts). The replacement for the shorter 114283 is a longer 114282 with a washer added. The washer keeps the cable centered in the lever.

 Note 3. Because the Grande has a foot rest above the engine, the decomp (start) cable is longer and routed differently than the other Vespa models. It exits the engine towards the rear instead of the front.

 

 

Cable Sets

 

 

Piaggio# price    length    wire  ’72-80 Ciao  
135015r $11.0 41 x 49    ∅1.5 front brake cable grey 
103209r $12.0 46 x 65    ∅1.5 rear brake cable grey 
103220r $11.0 42 x 46    ∅1.2 throttle cable grey 
103217r $23.0 33.7 35.6 ∅1.2 decomp cable grey
7280c    $53.0 cable set Ciao

Piaggio# price    length    wire  ’77-80 Bravo
136134r $11.0 37 x 44    ∅1.5 front brake cable grey 
135791r $12.0 52 x 67    ∅1.5 rear brake cable grey 
103220r $11.0 42 x 46    ∅1.2 throttle cable grey
103217r $23.0 33.7 35.6 ∅1.2 decomp cable grey
7780b    $53.0 cable set Bravo

Piaggio# price    length    wire  ’78-83 Grande
353860r $10.0 37 x 44    ∅1.5 front brake cable black
353863r $11.0 52 x 67    ∅1.5 rear brake cable black
353869r $10.0 39 x 43    ∅1.2 throttle cable black
353866r $23.0 41.7 45.1 ∅1.2 decomp cable black
7883g    $50.0 cable set Grande

Piaggio# price    length    wire  ’79-85 Si
185602r $10.0 38 x 52    ∅1.5 front brake cable black
185605r $11.0 47 x 68    ∅1.5 rear brake cable black
185611r $10.0 43 x 46    ∅1.2 throttle cable black
212687r $23.0 33.7 35.6 ∅1.2 decomp cable black
7985s    $50.0 cable set Si

Piaggio# price    length    wire  ’80-85 Ciao PX
187023r $10.0 41 x 49    ∅1.5 front brake cable black
187025r $11.0 46 x 65    ∅1.5 rear brake cable black
187027r $12.0 42 x 46    ∅1.2 throttle cable black
140594r $23.0 35.7 37.6 ∅1.2 decomp cable black
8085p    $50.0 cable set Ciao PX

 

 

 

 

 

Trac Cables

December 1, 2020

Trac cables have been terribly confusing since the 1980’s. You can see why; 3 kinds of part numbers, 4 kinds of brake cables not mentioned in parts manuals, and 8 kinds of incorrectly made replacement brake cables. Finally the clouds have cleared and the sun shines again!

 

1982-85 Trac Eagle, Clipper, Hawk     

1982-85 Trac, Laura M56 engine, 1970’s Magura controls. 


F12-30 61.0 x 3.3 ∅1.5 says nothing none   replacement $27 


F12-31 38.8 x 4.7 ∅1.2 says nothing $19    replacement $12


F12-32 38.8 x 2.7 ∅1.2 says nothing $27


F12-33 40.2 x 4.5 ∅1.5 says nothing $15    replacement $12


F12-34 39.1 x 3.3 ∅1.5 says nothing $27    replacement $25

 

 

1985-86 Trac Eagle, Clipper, Hawk

Domino Black

1985-86 Trac, Laura M56 engine, all black Domino controls. 

F4-01 23210 right control (front brake, throttle)
on ’86 and late ’85 Eagle, Clipper, Hawk
see Domino 903.03 = DA7K

F4-02 23510 left control (rear brake, starter)
on ’86 and late ’85 Eagle, Clipper, Hawk
see Domino 908.06 = DB7K

 


F12-56 84585 17910-M56-8960 throttle cable 41.4+”
38.9 x 2.4 ∅1.2 says M56 896 $12   for Eagle, Clipper, Hawk
38.9 x 4.7 ∅1.2 says nothing   $10   replacement


F12-57 84586 17920-M56-8960 choke cable 43.7+”
38.8 x 4.7 ∅1.2 says nothing $12   for Eagle, Clipper, Hawk
same as F12-31, single-ended with a 5x7pinch bolt


F12-58 84589 45460-M56-895D rear brake cable 
61.1 x 3.3 4.1 says M56 895D none  for Eagle deluxe 66.8
59.5 x 3.3 4.1 says MT1 895D none  for Hawk deluxe 65.2
61.0 x 4.1 ∅1.5 says nothing   $27     replacement 66.7″


F12-58 84589 45460-M56-895S rear brake cable
60.8 x 2.8 3.6 says M56 895S none  for Eagle std 66.0
59.5 x 2.8 3.6 says MT1 895S none  for Hawk std 64.7
58.8 x 3.6 ∅1.5 says ESCOT    none  for Clipper 64.0
61.0 x 3.6 ∅1.5 says nothing   $27     replacement 66.2″


F12-59-1 84588 45450-M56-895D front brake cable 
39.1 x 4.1 ∅1.5 says M56 895D none  for Eagle Deluxe 43.2
37.5 x 4.1 ∅1.5 says MT1 895D none  for Hawk Deluxe 41.6
39.0 x 4.1 ∅1.5 says nothing    $27     replacement

 
F12-59-1 84588 45450-M56-895S front brake cable 
39.1 x 3.6 ∅1.5 says M56 895S none  for Eagle std 42.7
37.5 x 3.6 ∅1.5 says MT1 895S none  for Hawk std 40.1
37.1 x 3.6 ∅1.5 says ESCOT      none  for Clipper 40.7
39.0 x 3.6 ∅1.5 says nothing   $27     replacement


F12-60-1 84587 17930-M56-8960 start cable 
40.0 x 3.1 ∅1.5 says M56 896 none for Eagle, Clipper, Hawk
40.6 x 2.9 ∅1.5 says M56 896 none F4-39-1 23521
40.0 x 3.1 ∅1.5 says nothing   $27    replacement

 

D and S brake cables D (Deluxe) is for mag wheels. S (Standard) is for spoke wheels. The D inner wire was 0.5 inch longer than S, because the Grimeca brake (D) on mag wheels is different from the Duck Chang brake (S) on spoke wheels. 

Corrections The 1985-86 (M56 engine) Eagle and Hawk front and rear brake cables with codes M56 and MT1, were made incorrectly. The inner wire was 0.8 inch too short. In the listing here the incorrect exposed lengths are crossed out. Trac forgot to include the distance of the removable slotted adjuster 23224.

The 1984-86 (M56 engine) Clipper and 1984-90 (DMC engine) Escot, Sprint, Image with cable codes CL1 and HA1 had correctly-made replacement brake cables. The CL1 or HA1 inner wire was 0.3 inch longer than a M56-895D, or 0.8 inch longer than a M56-895S.

 

 

’84-90 Escot, Image, Liberty, Metro (kick start)
’86-90 Clipper, Hawk, Sprint, Olympic, Blitz (pedals)

Domino Black

1984-90 Trac, Daelim DP50 or DK50, all black Domino controls
Image, Hawk, Sprint have cast aluminum mag wheels
Clipper, Escot, Liberty, Olympic, Blitz have spoke wheels

F4-01 23210 right control (front brake, throttle)
on ’84-90 models with DK50, late DP50 engines
see Domino 903.03 = DA7K

F4-02 23010 left control (rear brake only)
on ’84-90 models with DK50, late DP50 engines
see Domino 904.04 = DB8K

F4-02 23510 left control (rear brake, starter)
on ’86 and early ’87 Trac Olympic, early DP50 engine
see Domino 908.06 = DB7K

 


F4-31-1 23515 45450-CL1-000 front brake cable 42.2″
37.1 x 3.6 ∅2.0 says ESCOT    none  for Clipper, Escot
37.0 x 3.6 ∅1.5 says nothing   $27     replacement


F4-31-2 23516 45450-HA1-000AM front brake cable 41.7″
35.5 x 4.1 ∅2.0 says IMAGE   none  for Image, Hawk, Sprint
36.0 x 4.1 ∅1.5 says nothing   $27     replacement


F4-31-3 23015 43450-HD2-890AM front brake cable 48.6″
42.9 x 5.7 ∅2.0 says K.C.C.   $27    for Liberty, Olympic, Blitz


F4-32-1 23517 45460-CL1-000 rear brake cable 64.7″
58.6 x 3.6 ∅2.0 says ESCOT    none  for Clipper, Escot
59.0 x 3.6 ∅1.5 says nothing     $27     replacement


F4-32-2 23518 45460-HA1-000AM rear brake cable 64.7″
58?  x 4.1 ∅2.0 says IMAGE   none  for Image, Hawk, Sprint
59.0 x 4.1 ∅1.5 says nothing   $27     replacement 


F4-32-3 23016 43460-HD2-890AM rear brake cable 61.8″
46.5 x 15.3 ∅2.0 says K.C.C.   $32   for Liberty, Olympic, Blitz
61.8 is the length of 3 actual cables, but it seems too short.


F4-37-1 23021 17910-HD2-890AM throttle cable 44.5?
39.8 x 4.7 ∅1.2 says K.C.C.   none  for Liberty, Olympic, Blitz
40.0 x 4.7 ∅1.2 says nothing $10    replacement


F4-37-2 23022 17910-HA1-000 throttle cable 42.5″
37.8 x 4.7 ∅1.2 says HA1-CL1  $13   for Escot, Image

F4-37-3 23519 17910-HA1-010 throttle cable 42.5″
37.8 x 4.7 ∅1.2 says HA1-CL1  none  for Clipper, Hawk, Sprint


F4-38-1 23023 17950-HD2-892AM choke cable+knob
29.2 x 3.0 ∅1.2 says K.C.C.  $28   for Liberty, Olympic, Blitz

F4-38-3 23520 17950-HA1-010     choke cable+knob
29.2 x 3.0 ∅1.2 says HA1-CL1  $28    for Clipper, Hawk, Sprint

F4-38-2 23024 17950-HA1-000    choke cable+knob
29? x 3.0 ∅1.2 says HA1-CL1  none  for Escot, Image
same as 23520 but with a cover sleeve

 

F4-39-2 23522 17930-DKM-890AM start cable
42? x 2.9 ∅2.0 says K.C.C.  none  for ‘86 and early ’87 Olympic

 

 

DK50 and DP50 choke: These 1984-90 Trac models with Daelim engines and Domino controls, have a Honda type push-pull choke knob, located to the lower left of the speedometer. Other 1985-86 Trac models with Laura M56 engines and Domino controls, listed above, have a right thumb lever for the choke. 

 

 

 

Tomos Cables

December 1, 2020

 Cables

 

1976 Tomos Automatic

1974-86 Tomos A3, Magura controls
models: Automatic, Bullet, Silver Bullet, Golden Bullet

front brake $10

rear brake $10

throttle cable $25 
not included:  A2 adjuster $3.00, AP anchor pin $4.00
P22 loop pinch bolt $7.50 on spoke wheels
P25 Grimeca pinch bolt $4.00 on mag wheels

 

1987 Tomos Bullet

1986-91 Tomos A3, Domino controls
models: Bullet, Bullet TT, Golden Bullet, Golden Bullet TTLX

front brake $10

rear brake $10

throttle cable $10 
not included with cables: D14K anchor pin $3.00
adjusters A2 $3.00, A3b $5.50, A1b $4.00
P22 loop pinch bolt $7.50 on spoke wheels
P25 Grimeca pinch bolt $4.00 on mag wheels

 

1996 Tomos Sprint

1992-08 Tomos A35/A55, HR controls
92-94: A35 Bullet, A35 Bullet TT, A35 Golden Bullet, A35 G. B. TTLX
93-08: Sprint, Sprint TT, Targa, Targa LX, LX, TT Classic, ST 

front brake $10

rear brake $10

throttle cable $10
not included:  adjusters A2 $3.00, A3b $5.50, A1b $4.00
P25 Grimeca pinch bolt $4.00, LA long anchor pin 227169 $4.50

 

2009 Tomos ST

2008-13 Tomos A55, TBS controls
models: Sprint, ST, LX

front brake $15  

rear brake $23

throttle cable $27
not included with cables:  adjuster A2 $3.00,
P25 Grimeca pinch bolt $4.00, DA end adapter $1.80

 

2003 Tomos Revival

2001-03 Tomos A35 Revival, Domino controls

rear brake $26

throttle cable $29
not included with cables:  adjuster A2 $3.00,
P25 Grimeca pinch bolt $4.00, DA end adapter $1.80

 

2007 Tomos Revival TS

2005 Tomos Streetmate

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2004-07 A55 Revival, Streetmate, Domino controls
2008-13 A55 Revival, Streetmate, TBS controls (not Streetmate-R)

rear brake $26

throttle cable $27
not included with cables:  adjuster A2 $3.00,
P25 Grimeca pinch bolt $4.00, E1f end adapter

 

2012 Streetmate-R

2008-13 A55 Streetmate-R, TBS controls

rear brake $26

 

throttle cable $27
not included with cables:  adjuster A2 $3.00,
P25 Grimeca pinch bolt $4.00, E1f end adapter

 

 

 

 

 

Sparta Cables

December 1, 2020

Sparta Cables

’77 Sparta Foxi GT

’77 Sparta Foxi GT Sport

’78 Foxi GT Sport

1978 Flying Dutchman
made by Sparta

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1979 Flying Dutchman
made by Sparta

1980 Sparta Buddy

1980 Sparta Buddy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Replacement cables for 70’s Sparta mopeds:

Sparta choke cable 1-ended  xxx $12
39.7+ = 38.0 + 1.7″ + extra
includes 5 x 8 pinch bolt

.
Sparta throttle cable A 2-ended   $19
41.0 = 36.5 + 4.5″
for short cable pipe (most ’76-78)

.
Sparta throttle cable B 2-ended   $19
41.0 = 36.0 + 5.0″
for long cable pipe (most ’78-81)

.
Sparta start cable 1-ended  xxxx $21
39.8+=1.1+3.1+34.5+2.2″+extra
2-piece conduit for decompression

.
Sparta start cable for no decomp $19
39.8+= 1.1 + 37.6 + 2.2″ + extra
1-piece conduit for no decomp. valve

Sparta front brake cable 2-ended $20
39.7″ = 35.6 + 4.1″
large chrome Magura adjuster

Sparta rear brake cable 2-ended  $22
65.9″ = 61.8 + 4.1″
large chrome Magura adjuster

 

 

 

Solex Cables

December 1, 2020

Contents:

1. Solex Cables
2. 1949-67 Solex 45, 330, 660, 1010
and 1400, 1700, 2200, 3300, 3800
3. 1968-74 Solex 3800
4. 1975-80 Solex 4600 (US) 
5. 1975-85 Solex 3800 Motobecane
6. 1986-88 Solex 3800 MBK
and ’98-05 Solex 3800 Impex
7. 2005-08 Solex 4800 Mopex
8. Resources

 

 

 

1. Solex Cables


Solex cable ends

 

6mm ball end is for Solex-type controls on
’49-85 Solex 45 to 3800 original brake cables

6mm pear end is for Magura and Domino controls on
’75-05  3800 and 4600 original and replacement brake cables
6mm pear replaces 6mm ball

6 x 6 barrel end is only for China-type controls on
’98-05 Solex 4800 brake, throttle and decomp. cables

5 x 3 barrel end is for Solex-type controls on
’68-85 Solex 3800 original and replacement throttle cables

3 x 5 inline end is for Domino controls on
’86-05 Solex 3800 original and replacement throttle cables
3 x 5 inline can replace 5 x 3 barrel

5 x 7 barrel end is for Magura or Domino controls on
’75-80 Solex 4600 V2, V3 throttle cables (Magura)
’86-05 Solex 3800 decomp cables (Domino)

 

 


Lower right, original Solex slow-down cable has a ∅5 x 3 sideways barrel end. Left and upper right, a normal throttle cable with a ∅3 x 5 inline barrel end also fits. Myron’s replacements have the ∅5 x 3 end, which is the same as a vintage bicycle gear shift cable.

 

 

2. Cables on ’49-67 Solex


1949 Solex 45      1951 Solex 45 

1949-55 Solex 45, 330
front caliper brake, rear caliper brake, 23″ tires
no slow-down control (always full throttle)

 


1958 Solex 1010     

1955-58 Solex 660, 1010
front caliper brake, rear caliper brake, 21″ tires
no slow-down control (always full throttle)

 

1958-61 Solex 1400, 1700
front caliper brake, rear caliper brake, 19″ tires
no slow-down control (always full throttle)

 

1961-64 Solex S 2200
front caliper brake, rear caliper brake, 19″ tires
front brake cable also controls throttle

 

 
1966 Solex S 3800


1964-65 S 3300 and 1966-67 S 3800
front caliper brake, rear drum brake
front brake cable also controls throttle

original cables were silver, replacements are light grey
Solex#   mm inch   price

11800  1620 63.8 $00.0 rear brake cable
00050  0000 00.0 $00.0 rear brake conduit ∅5
00758  1620 63.8 $5.00 rear brake wire ∅1.5
11605  0000 00.0 none  pinch bolt
11573  0000 00.0 none  cable stop

11799  1000 39.4 $10.0 front brake cable
10270  0680 24.4 $5.00 front brake conduit ∅5
11659  1000 39.4 $5.00 front brake wire ∅1.5

 

 

3. Cables on ’68-75 Solex S 3800 


1973 Solex S 3800 (USA)

 

  
The 1968-85 Solex S 3800 right inverted brake lever also controls the throttle. Either squeeze the brake or twist the grip forward to close the throttle. A cam in the grip pushes that little trigger (center photo) which pulls the throttle wire. The single-ended throttle and brake wires are ordinary “universal” moped inner wires.

 


1968-75 Solex S 3800 
front caliper brake, rear drum brake, slow-down cable
front brake lever or twist grip controls throttle

 

 


1968-74 Solex S 3800 (US model)

original cables were silver, replacements are light grey 
fig# Solex#  mm inch  price    black is optional

A76 11800 1660 65.4 $00.0 rear brake cable
A56 00000 0000 00.0 $00.0 rear brake conduit
B20 13108 = 61365 0 $2.00 pinch bolt P7

A57 12185 0860 33.9 $10.0 front brake cable
A26 10270 0680 24.4 $5.00 front brake conduit

A62 12187 0600 23.6 $0.00 slow down cable
A61 08258 0000 00.0 $00.0 slow down conduit

 

From Solex 3800 USA by Brian Solex  In 1974, new regulations were created concerning mopeds being imported into America. All new imported mopeds would need to pass new Federal Safety Standards and would need to be equipped with DOT-approved safety equipment. The S 3800s that were available did not meet the new Safety Standards, and did not have the proper safety equipment. So Solex created the model 4600 DOT (4600 V2 and 4600 V3) which had all of the required safety equipment, and which met the Federal Safety Standards.

 

4. Cables on ’75-80 Solex S 4600 (US) 

Solex 4600 Parts Catalog 1975
Solex 4600 Parts Catalog 1979 (in big blue notebook)

 
Left, 1976 Solex 4600 V2   Right, 1980 Solex 4600 V3


Cable Parts for ’75-76 4600 V2 and ’77-80 4600 V3 
US models with ’70’s Magura controls with normal levers

nylon-lined, in either GREY for ’75-76, or BLACK for ’77-80
fig  S/M#  mm inch  price   replacement items unless noted

11 13307 1460 57.5 $10.0 rear brake cable grey 39.4 x 58″
12 08346 1000 39.4 $5.00 rear brake conduit grey 39.4″
11 62175 1460 57.5 $10.0 rear brake cable black 39.4 x 58″
12 60179?1000 39.4 $5.00 rear brake conduit black 39.4″
13 61339?1460 57.5 $5.00 rear brake wire ∅1.5 x 58″
u7 13500 00.0 0000 $4.00 brake cable anchor pin
u8 13108 = 61365 0 $2.00 rear brake pinch bolt P7
u9 13317 00.0 0000 $5.00 brake cable adjuster
p9 61371 00.0 0000 none  cable stop assembly P6 P7 P8

15 13306 0720 28.3 $10.0 front brake cable grey 24.0 x 29″
16 08346 0610 24.0 $5.00 front brake conduit grey 24.0″
15 62174 0720 28.3 $10.0 front brake cable black 24.0 x 29″
16 60178?0610 24.0 $5.00 front brake conduit black 24.0″
17 60933?0720 28.3 $5.00 front brake wire ∅1.5 x 29″
u7 13500 00.0 0000 $4.00 brake cable anchor pin
u9 13317 00.0 0000 $5.00 brake cable adjuster

19 13308 0425 16.7 $12.0 decomp. cable grey 14.8 x 17″
20 00000 0375 14.8 $5.00 decomp. conduit 14.8″
19 61453 0425 16.7 $12.0 decomp. cable black 14.8 x 17”
21 63094?0425 16.7 $7.00 decomp wire ∅1.2 x 17″
22 61446 0000 00.0 $0.70 decomp step ferrule F3
u8 63092 0000 00.0 $2.00 decomp pinch bolt P7

23 13332 0700 27.6 $12.0 throttle cable grey 21.1 x 28″
24 08347 0535 21.1 $5.00 throttle conduit grey 21.1″
23 61494 0700 27.6 $12.0 throttle cable black 21.1 x 28″
24 61223?0535 21.1 $5.00 throttle conduit black 21.1″“
25 61230?0700 27.6 $7.00 throttle wire Magura ∅1.2 x 28″

 

 

5. Cables on ’75-85 Solex 3800 (Motobecane)

. Solex 3800 Motobecane Parts Catalog 1978

fig# Solex#  mm inch  price   replacement items unless noted

192 11800 1660 65.4 $00.0 rear brake cable
056 00050 0000 00.0 $00.0 rear brake conduit
002 13281 0000 00.0 $00.0 cable stop screw
002 13141 0000 00.0 $00.0 cable stop adjuster

198 12185 0860 33.9 $00.0 front brake cable
000 00000 0000 00.0 $00.0 front brake conduit

062 12187 0600 23.6 $10.0 slow down cable
061 08305 0432 17.0 $5.00 slow down conduit

The Solex S-3800 MBK Parts Manual 1985 cable section on page 16 covers both ’86-on Domino controls and pre-86 Solex backwards-lever controls. The front and rear brake cables are the same length, but the color changed from silver to black in 1986. Since the pre-86 cables go inside the handlebar to near the end, the pre-86 handlebar 12365 must be narrower than the 86-on handlebar 60191 by about 4 inches.

The same 1985 manual also shows a high handlebar 61837.

 

6. Cables on ’86-88 Solex S-3800 (MBK-France)
3. Ca and ’98-05 Solex S-3800 (Impex-Hungary)

. Solex S-3800 MBK Parts Manual 1985 
. Solex S-3800 Impex Parts Manual 1998

 
1987 Solex S-3800     2000 Solex S-3800


Cable parts for ’86-05 Solex with 90’s Domino controls

nylon-lined, in either GREY or BLACK (original color)
fig MBK# Impex#  mm inch  price   replacement items unless noted

11  60974 90974 1660 65.4 $00.0 rear brake cable
12  00000 00000 0000 00.0 $0.00 rear brake conduit 
13  00000 00000 1660 65.4 $5.00 rear brake wire ∅1.5 x 66″
u6  26607 93102 0000 00  $3.00 brake cable anchor pin D14k
u8  00716 93092 0000 00.0 $2.00 rear brake pinch bolt P7
p9  61371 91371 00.0 0000 $0.00 cable stop assembly P6 P7 P8

15  62174 92174 0910 35.8 $00.0 front brake cable
16  00000 00000 0000 00.0 $0.00 front brake conduit
17  00000 00000 0910 35.8 $5.00 front brake wire ∅1.5 x 36″
u6  26607 93102 0000 00  $3.00 brake cable anchor pin D14k

19  62178 92178 0440 17.3 $00.0 decompressor cable
20  00000 00000 0000 00.0 $00.0 decomp conduit
21  61453 00000 0440 17.3 $00.0 decomp wire ∅1.2 x 17.3″
22  61446 91446 0000 00.0 $0.70 decomp step ferrule F3
u8  62177 92177 0000 00.0 $2.00 decomp pinch bolt P7

23  26469 93104 0000 00.0 $00.0 throttle cable Domino
24  00000 00000 0000 00.0 $0.00 throttle conduit
25  00000 00000 0000 00.0 $0.00 throttle wire ∅1.2 x 

 

 

 

7. Cables on ’05-08 Solex 4800 (Mopex-Taiwan)

 
’07 Solex 4800 Velosolex    ’08 Solex 4800 Black n Roll

Solex 4800 parts can be purchased online at https://solexdeal.com/solex-4800-onderdelen/. from the Netherlands.

 

Cable parts for ’05-08 Solex 4800 made in Taiwan by Mopex

SKU# conduit total  price    nylon-lined, black
SKU# conduit total  price   with ∅1.5 wires, ∅6×6 ends

60974  0000 0000  none  rear brake cable

60230  0000 0000  none  front brake cable

62178  0370 1040  $0.00 decomp cable 14.5 x 41.0″

62175  0820 0965  $0.00 throttle cable 32.3 x 38.0″

 

 

 

8. Resources

Solex 3800 Parts Manual (images) Feb 1975,  Solex 3800 USA by Brian Solex  
 https://solex3800usa.over-blog.com/page-list

Solex Parts for Sale Van de Ven Solex Limburg 
 https://www.solex-onderdelen-limburg.nl/en/cables/

Solex 3800 Parts Manual (PDF) July 1978 Motobecane Club of France 
 https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-Solex3800Motobecane7807.pdf

Solex 3800 MBK Parts Manual (PDF) Dec 1985 Motobecane Club of France 
 https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-Solex3800MBK.pdf

Solex 4600 USA Owners Manual (PDF) 1975 Sunday Morning Motors 
https://vintagemopeds.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/solex-manual.pdf

Solex 4600 Parts Manual (images) 1975 Solex 4600 by Brian Solex
https://velosolex4600.over-blog.com/pages/_Velosolex_Dealer_Manual_Parts_Catalog_4600_V2_V3-1060103.html

Solex Parts for Sale Solex Onderdelen Nederland
https://solexdeal.com/alle-type-solexonderdelen/

Solex S 3800 (Impex) Parts and Service Manual (PDF) 1999
. https://www.generare.com/SolexManual.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

Sears Cables

December 1, 2020

Sears Cables

Sears Allstate (late 1950’s and 60’s) moped cables are not yet covered here. They are the same as 60’s Puch cables.

Sears Free Spirit (late 1970’s) moped cables are displayed and offered in Puch Cables, since they are the same.

 

Sears Allstate Cable Specs

050.6200.2 Clutch cable  wire 1160, conduit 1060

050.6300.2 Front brake cable  wire 955, conduit 815

050.6500.2 Throttle cable  wire 937, conduit 780

050.6600.2 Shift cable   wire 2510 (98.8″), conduits 1080 (42.5″) and 1055 (41.5″)

050.6700.2 Decomp cable  wire 825, conduit 760

050.6503.0 Choke cable

050.5.2500.2 Rear brake cable  wire 521, conduit 380

 

1966 Sears Sabre (Puch VZ50) 3-speed foot-shift manual-clutch

throttle cable:

 

 

 

 

 

Sachs Cables

December 1, 2020

updated 2021-07

Sachs Cables

Sachs is both an engine name and a moped name.

 

1978 Sachs Westlake

 

 

Sachs mopeds are made in Germany by Hercules.
Cables for Sachs mopeds are in Hercules cables.

 

 

 

1978 Sachs 504

 

Sachs engines: Sachs 504 and 505 moped engines are made in Germany. They are on six USA moped brands or families (and many more worldwide). Different brands have different frames, handlebars, controls, and wheel brakes. Those things determine the cables.

 

 

Sachs cables: Cables for mopeds with Sachs engines are listed in these bike brands/families:

for Columbia mopeds with Sachs 505 engine, see Columbia cables.

for General   mopeds with Sachs 505 engine, see General cables.

for Hercules  mopeds with Sachs 504 or 505, see Hercules cables.

for KTM        mopeds with Sachs 504 engine, see KTM cables.

for Kynast    mopeds with Sachs 504 engine, see Kynast cables.

for Sparta     mopeds with Sachs 504 engine, see Sparta cables.

 

 

 

Choke Cables for Sachs 504 and 505 Engines

Sachs choke cables depend on what frame, what handlebar and what controls. The frame and handlebar matter only for the overall length.

Sachs-Hercules choke short 1-ended 170.80.08
’80-83 Sachs Prima G3, low bars with 505 foot brake
1982 Bombardier Eagle III with Sachs 505 foot brake
33.4+ = 31.8 + 1.6+ with pinch bolt
replacement black $12

Sachs-Hercules choke 1-ended 170.80.09
1970-77 Hercules M1, M2, P1 sheet frame, Sachs 504
1978-80 Sachs Westlake, Sundancer with Sachs 504
1973-77 Hercules M4, M5, P3 tube frame 505 foot brake
1978-80 Sachs Balboa, Suburban with 505 foot brake
1980-83 Sachs Seville, Prima with 505 foot brake
1982 Bombardier Eagle I, II with Sachs 505 foot brake
Sachs-Kynast choke     1-ended
1977-80 Kynast Flying Dutchman with Sachs 504
37.4+ = 35.8 + 1.6+ with pinch bolt
replacement black $12

Sachs-Sparta choke       1-ended 054011
1976-80 Foxi (Holland), Sparta Buddy with Sachs 504
Sachs-KTM choke xxx  1-ended 12.11.097
1977-80 Foxi (Austria) sheet frame with Sachs 504
Sachs-Columbia choke 1-ended 746-0292
1976-80 Columbia Commuter with Sachs 505
1977-82 Western Flyer, Imperial, Yard Man with 505
1987-95 KKM Mopet with Sachs 505 engine
39.6+ = 38.0 + 1.6+ with pinch bolt
replacement black $12

Sachs-Jui Li (early foot brake) 1-ended 2150-6284
1977-78 Jui Li Honey 50 with Sachs 505 foot brake
1977-78 Clinton 50-A, others with Sachs 505 foot brake
38.9″ = 36.4 + 2.5, for left start lever
replacement black $15

Sachs-General        1-ended 4150-6284
1978-85 General 5 Star, 5 Star ST with Sachs 505
1978-80 Jui Li, AMS, Sachs G4 Sachs 505 foot brake
1978-80 Grycner, Clinton with Sachs 505 foot brake
1981-85 Grycner, AMS, Jui Li, Clinton, Foxi  Sachs 505
37.9+ = 36.4 + 1.5+  right thumb lever
original black $19  replacement $13

 

 

 

 

Start Cables for Sachs 504 and 505 Engines

Sachs start  cables depend on what frame, what handlebar and what controls. All Sachs start (clutch-decomp) cables have to be single-ended because they must pass through a small 2.5 mm hole in the Sachs 504 or 505 engine case.

Sachs start (clutch) inner wire 1-ended WCS
47″ universal ’70-95 with Sachs 504 or 505 engine
replacement 1.2 mm $11

Sachs-Hercules start short 1-ended 170.69.02
’80-83 Sachs Prima G3, low bars with 505 foot brake
1982 Bombardier Eagle III with Sachs 505 foot brake
34.4″ = 1.1+2.8+0.3+28.0+1.2+1.0
replacement black $21

Sachs-Hercules start 1-ended 170.73.81
1970-77 Hercules M1, M2, P1 sheet frame, Sachs 504
1978-80 Sachs Westlake, Sundancer with Sachs 504
1973-77 Hercules M4, M5, P3 tube frame 505 foot brake
1978-80 Sachs Balboa, Suburban with 505 foot brake
1980-83 Sachs Seville, Prima with 505 foot brake
1982 Bombardier Eagle I, II with Sachs 505 foot brake
Sachs-Kynast start x 1-ended
1977-80 Kynast Flying Dutchman with Sachs 504
38.4″ = 1.1+2.8+0.3+32.0+1.2+1.0
replacement black $21

Sachs-Sparta start 1-ended 054009
1976-80 Foxi GT, Buddy, Flying Dutchman, Sachs 504
Sachs-KTM start xxx 1-ended 12.11.195
1977-80 Foxi Deluxe sheet frame with Sachs 504
Sachs-Columbia start 1-ended 746-0293
1976-80 Columbia Commuter with Sachs 505
1977-82 Western Flyer, Imperial, Yard Man with 505
1987-95 KKM Mopet with Sachs 505 engine
40.9″ = 1.1+2.8+0.3+34.5+1.2+1.0
replacement black $21

Sachs start cable long 1-ended 0291 021 000
universal long for 1975-85 with Sachs 504/1A, 505/1A 
46.6″ = 1.1+2.8+0.3+40.6+0.8+1.0
replacement black $21 needs cutting or re-routing

Sachs-Jui Li (early foot brake) 1-ended 2150-6293 
1977-78 Jui Li Honey 50 with Sachs 505 foot brake
1977-78 Clinton 50-A, others with Sachs 505 foot brake
40.5″ = 1.1+2.8+0.3+34.5+0.8+1.0 with pinch bolt
replacement black $23 for General upper lever

Sachs-General        1-ended 4150-6293 
1978-85 General 5 Star, 5 Star ST with Sachs 505
1978-80 Jui Li, AMS, Sachs G4 Sachs 505 foot brake
1978-80 Grycner, Clinton with Sachs 505 foot brake
1981-85 Grycner, AMS, Jui Li, Clinton, Foxi  Sachs 505
40.3″ = 1.1+2.8+0.3+34.3+0.8+1.0 with pinch bolt
replacement black $23 for General lower lever

 

 

 

Throttle Cables for Sachs 504 and 505 engines

Sachs throttle cables depend on what frame, what handlebar and what controls. The frame and handlebar matter for the overall length. The frame also matters because low floorboards above the carburetor require a lower short-type throttle cable pipe, and that requires a throttle cable with a shorter exposed length. Some frames do not require a low cable pipe, but have it anyway.

Many bikes do not have their original throttle cable pipe (aka elbow, bendy) since the carburetor or top parts can be from other models or a remake. So to avoid guessing, the cable pipe length, short or long, must be identified visually, to get the correct throttle cable.

 

 

Hercules A x        1-ended 170.72.92
most ’70-76 Herc. M1, M2, P1 sheet frame with 504
most ’73-76 Moppet P504 with Sachs 504
most ’73-76 Herc. M4, M5, P3 tube frame 505 ft brk
most ’74-76 Moppet P505 with Sachs 505 foot brake
40.0+ = 35.5 + 4.5 + 1.3 with pinch bolt
170.72.92r       replacement black $12
40.0 = 35.5 + 4.5 for short cable pipe
170.72.92Ar 2-ended replacement $19

 

Hercules B x        1-ended 170.72.17
most ’77-83 Herc. M1, M2, P1 sheet frame with 504
most ’78-80 Sachs Westlake, Sundancer with 504
most ’77-83 Herc. M4, M5, P3 tube frame 505 ft brk
most ’78-80 Sachs Balboa, Suburban 505 foot brake
most ’80-83 Sachs Seville, Prima with 505 foot brake
most ’82 Bombardier Eagle I, II with 505 foot brake
40.0+ = 35.0 + 5.0 + 1.3 with pinch bolt
170.72.17r   1-ended replacement $12
40.0 = 35.0 + 5.0 for long cable pipe
170.72.17Br 2-ended replacement $19

 

Hercules B short  1-ended 170.72.16 
’80-83 Sachs Prima G3, low bars with 505 foot brake
1982 Bombardier Eagle III with Sachs 505 foot brake
36.0+ = 31.0 + 5.0 + 1.3 with pinch bolt
170.72.16r   1-ended replacement $12
36.0 = 31.0 + 5.0 for long cable pipe
170.72.16Br 2-ended replacement $19

 

Sparta  A xx 2-ended 054010
most ’76-78 Foxi, Buddy, Flying Dutchman, 504
Columbia A  2-ended 746-0291
most ’76-77 Columbia Commuter with Sachs 505
most ’76-77 Western Flyer models with 505
KTM A xxxx 2-ended
some ’77-80 KTM Foxi with Sachs 504
Kynast A xx 2-ended
most ’77-78 Flying Dutchman w/’77 covers, 504
41.0 = 36.5 + 4.5 for short cable pipe
746-0291Ar replacement black $19

 

Gadabout  2-ended MS-4282 
with inline adjuster to fit either cable pipe
43.9 = 39.2 to 38.8 + 4.7 to 5.1
1980’s aftermarket black       $22

 

Sparta B xx  2-ended 054010B
most ’78-80 Foxi, Buddy, Flying Dutchman, 504
Columbia B  2-ended 746-0291B
most ‘78-80 Columbia Commuter with Sachs 505
most ’77-82 Western Flyer, Imperial, Yard Man
most ’87-95 KKM Mopet with Sachs 505 engine
KTM B xxxx 2-ended 10.11.191
most ’77-80 KTM Foxi with Sachs 504
Kynast B xx 2-ended
most ’79-80 Flying Dutchman w/’79 covers, 504
41.0 = 36.0 + 5.0 for long cable pipe
746-0291Br replacement black $19

 

General A     2-ended 1151-6296
most ’80-85 General 5 Star, 5 Star ST  Sachs 505
most ’80-83 General 5 Star ST with 505 foot brake
most ’80-85 AMS Sierra, Sachs G4  505 foot brake
most ’80-85 Foxi 47, AMS Tahoe with Sachs 505
38.2″ = 4.0+30.7+3.5″ for short cable pipe
1151-6296Ar replacement black $27

 

General B     2-ended 2150-6296
most ’78-80 General 5 Star ST with 505 foot brake
most ’77-80 Jui Li, Clinton 50-A with 505 foot brake
most ’78-80 Grycner, AMS Sierra 50  505 foot brake
38.2″ = 4.45 + 30.25 + 3.5″ for long cable pipe
original $32  2150-6296Br replacement $28

 

General B long 2-ended 215L-6296
aftermarket cable 2.5″ longer 
40.7″ = 4.45 + 32.75 + 3.5″ for long cable pipe
original $32  215L-6296Br replacement $28

 

 

 

Sachs-Magura Throttle Cables Raw Data: These data from actual original or vintage replacement cables were used to make specifications for replacement throttle cables. 

 carb   conduit x  exposed    
elbow   length  xx length xxcable  xxxx part
  xx    inch mm   inch mm x style  xxx number

short  33.5 852   4.53 115  Sparta xx 000-0000 most 1977-78 (Kynast) Flying Dutchman (early engine cover)
short  36.8 935   4.49 114  Sparta xx 746-0291 most 1976-78 (Columbia) Columbia (sheet-frame Sachs 505)
short  36.8 935   4.49 114  Sparta xx 000-0000 most 1976-78 (Sparta) Sparta Std., Deluxe, Foxi GT, GT Sport
short  37.0 940   4.49  113  Sparta xx 000-0000most 1977-78 (Sparta) Flying Dutchman Deluxe, Lucky
short  39.6 1007  4.61 117  Sp. repl.  000-0000 Sparta replacement for “Sachs-Magura with short elbow”
short  40.4 1027  4.80 122  Barnett x MP-0000  Barnett replacement for “Sachs-Magura with short elbow”

either 38.9 988    113-125  Taiwan x MS-4282  Gadabout replacement with inline adjuster, for short or long elbow
either 38.8 986    121-131  Taiwan x MS-4282  (same)  apparently these are not all the same length

long   35.6 903   4.92 125  Puch xx   000-00000 most 1977-80 (KTM) Foxi Deluxe, Salzburg, Baron
long   35.6 903   4.92 125  Herc xx   000-00000 most 1976-80 (Hercules) Sachs models
long   33.5 851   4.92 125  Sparta x  000-00000 most 1979-80 (Kynast) Flying Dutchman (late engine cover)
long   36.8 935   4.96 126  Sparta x  746-0291B most 1978-80 (Columbia) Columbia (sheet and tube frame)
long   36.8 935   4.96 126  Sparta x  000-00000 most 1978-80 (Sparta) Foxi GT, GT Sport, Flying Dutchman
long   37.0 940   4.9  126   Sparta x  000-00000 most 1979-81 (Sparta) Sparta Buddy, Deluxe
long   36.7 932   5.08 129  Barnett  MP-0000 xx  Barnett replacement for “Sachs-Magura with long elbow”
long   36.4 925   5.23 133  Barnett  MP-0000 xx  (same)  apparently these are not all the same length

 

Long and Short Elbow (bendy): There is a 12mm (about 1/2″) difference between short and long elbow. For a short elbow the exposed length must be 114 to 121 mm. For a long elbow the exposed length must be 125 to 132 mm. The cable adjuster has an adjustment range of 7mm. So the 12mm of slack from a “long” cable used in a “short” elbow cannot be adjusted out.

To get around this, in the 1980’s one aftermarket Sachs throttle cable (Gadabout MS-4282) had an inline adjuster, with a wide adjustment range (13mm). This cable worked on either short or long elbows. 

 

Hercules P1 with short and long cable pipe

 

Hercules P1 models had both short and long cable pipes. Yet four Sachs engine parts catalogs (1975 Sachs 504, 1978 Sachs 504, 1977 Sachs 505, 1980 Sachs 505) list the same Sachs part number 0261-143-000 for the cable pipe. 

Like Columbia and Sparta, early models had short pipes and later models had long. The short pipe had a tighter bend that rubbed harder on the throttle cable. Some throttle cables would develop broken strands at the sharp bend. So the long cable pipe superseded the short one, on models that had enough space below the left floorboard. You can see on the red P1 photo the tops of the floorboard mounts are even with the top of the throttle cable pipe, but on the blue P1 the mounts are a little higher than the cable pipe. 

If you stand on the left floorboard, the mounts bend downward. Hercules designers first chose the short pipe because it would not be affected by standing on the floorboard, unlike the long cable pipe that would get broken from the rider’s weight on it. 

KTM’s with short and long cable elbows (pipes)

Sparta’s with short and long cable pipes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rizzato Cables

December 1, 2020

Rizzato Cables

Rizzato Califfo is a 1970’s Italian moped with Domino “1970’s chrome” type controls, but the throttle is a “wrap-around” type, instead of the usual “sliding block” type. So it takes a double-ended throttle cable, specific to that model bike. The throttle has no adjuster threads, and the center-located carburetor has no curved pipe. Those details affect the length of the exposed inner wire. At the throttle end, an 8mm diameter ferrule (end cap) is added over the regular 6mm crimp-on end cap, to keep the cable end centered and straight. 

Rizzato throttle cable

 

 

 

 

 

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