Motobecane Cady

August 1, 2021

updated 2022-02

Contents: 
1. Identification
2. Parts Catalogs and Service Manuals
3. Engine Parts Comparison

 

The purpose here is to learn about Cady models, their parts differences, and then to specify or offer replacement parts. 

 

 

1. Identification

Cady Engines

Most Motobecane moped engines have the pulley-clutch on the left and the magneto-generator on the right. But Motobecane Cady and Moby X have Isodyne (same side) engines have both clutch and magneto on the left.

1.  ’66-74 19641 Isodyne M1 motor has rounded head fins,
no bulge on right case (no right bearing).

2. ’74-78 20108 Isodyne M1 motor has angled head fins,
no bulge on right case (no right bearing).

3. ’74-78 22200 Super Isodyne M3 has angled head fins,
with bulge on right case for right bearing.

4. ’75-78 22329 Super Isodyne M3 has angled head fins,
with a bearing greaser on the right case.

 

Look for the buldge

Mid-70’s Cady M1PRTS yellow and M3PRTS blue are identical.
The only visible difference is the bulge in the M3 right engine case.
Only a right side view shows this.

 

Look for the light

The headlight style and color can narrow down the identity.

 

 

 

 

Models with Isodyne Engine M1 #19641

 

 

C1 1966-68 
Cady sheet frame, bicycle fork, 23 x 2 tires (19″ rims)
one speed dual auto clutch, no suspension
red metallic
S10-693 carb, 20069 19725 controls

 

 

1968 Motobecane Cady M1 M1PR

M1 1966-74 
Cady sheet frame, bicycle fork, 21 x 2 tires (17″ rims)
one speed dual auto clutch, no suspension
red metallic, 33 km/h = 20.5 mph
AR¹-10-674 carb, 19134 19124 controls

 

M1 P demontable 1966-68  
2.00-16 tires (20 x 2.00)
no suspension, headlight on fender
red metallic  with S10-693 carb

M1 P demontable 1968-74
2.00-16 tires (20 x 2.00)
no suspension, headlight on fender
red metallic, red, blue, white, topaz
AR¹-10-691 carb, 20069 19694 controls

 

M1 PR 1967-74
2.00-16 tires (20 x 2.00)
no suspension  (PR means 16″ rims)
red, blue, white, topaz
AR¹-10-691 carb, 20069 19725 controls
20069 20008 controls after 4/68
.

M1 PRT 1968-74
2.00-16 tires (20 x 2.00)
Telescopic fork
red, blue, white, topaz
AR¹-10-691 carb, 20069 20008 controls


.

M1 PRTS 1970-74
2.00-16 tires (20 x 2.00)
Telescopic fork, rear Suspension
red, blue, white, topaz
AR¹-10-691 carb, 20069 20008 controls
.

 

 

Models with Isodyne Engine M1 #20108

M1  1974-77
2.00-19 tires
no suspension
 metallic red, metallic brown
AR¹-10-691 carb, 21675 20957 controls

 

M1 PR  1974-77
2.25-16 tires (PR means 16″ rims)
no suspension
red, white 
AR¹-10-691 carb, 21675 21284 controls
.

Cady PR  1974-77
2.00-16 tires PR
no suspension
red, white with AR¹-10-691 carb
sold in Canada by Canadian Tire
.

M1 PRTS 1974-78
2.00-16 tires PR
Telescopic fork, rear Suspension
red, blue, white, yellow
AR¹-10-691 carb, 21675 21284 controls
.

Cady PRTS 1974-78
2.00-16 tires PR
Telescopic fork, rear Suspension
red, blue, white, yellow
AR¹-10-691 carb, 21675 21284 controls
sold in Canada by Canadian Tire

 

M3: 1976-77
2.00-19 tires
no suspension
metallic brown
this has an M1 engine, not M3

 

M3T: 1976-77
2.00-19 tires
Telescopic fork
metallic brown
this has an M1 engine, not M3

 


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Models with Super Isodyne Engine M3

M3 PR  1974-77
2.00-16 tires PR
no suspension
sandy white, green
AR1-11.5-753 carb, 21675 21284 controls
.

M3 PRT  1974-77
2.00-16 tires PR
Telescopic fork
yellow, sandy white, green
AR1-11.5-753 carb, 21675 20957 controls

 

 


.

Moby (M3 PRT)  1974-77
2.00-16 tires PR
Telescopic fork
blue, other colors
AR1-11.5-753 carb, 21675 21284 controls
.

M3 PRTS  1974-77
2.00-16 tires PR
Telescopic fork, rear Suspension
yellow, sandy white, green, met blue
AR1-11.5-753 carb, 21675 21284 controls
sold in Canada by Canadian Tire
.

M3 PRTSG: 1975-77
2.00-16 tires PR
separately Greased
Telescopic fork, rear Suspension
yellow, sandy white, green, met blue
AR1-11.5-753 carb, 21675 21284 controls

 

 

 

 

 

2. Parts Catalogs and Service Manuals

The Motobecane Club de France has free pdf downloads of all Motobecane manuals. Here are their five Cady Parts Manuals and models covered. Insert sheets in gray text. Model colors are colored diamonds.

 

https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-cady-m1.pdf   
Nov 1966  2.00-19 tires ♦M1
Sep 1966  clutch and magneto service
Sep 1966  early M1 engine bottom-end versions
Jun 1967  front brake and fork changes
Nov 1966  crankshaft service
Nov 1966  bearing and seal info

https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-Cady.pdf 
Nov 1968  2.00-19 tires ♦M1
Nov 1968  2.00-16 tires ♦M1P, ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT

https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-Cadym1-m1prts.pdf 
Nov 1968  2.00-19 tires ♦M1
Nov 1968  2.00-16 tires ♦M1P, ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT, ♦◊♦♦M1PRTS
Nov 1969  (missing M1PRTS addition)
Mar 1970  points cam change

https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-cady-m1pr.pdf 
Feb 1975  2.00-19 tires ♦M1
Feb 1975  2.00-16 tires ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT, ♦◊♦♦M1PRTS

https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-cady-m3.pdf
Apr 1976  2.25-16 tires ♦◊M3PR, ♦◊♦M3PRT, ♦◊♦M3PRTS, ♦◊♦M3PRTSG
Mar 1974  2.25-16 tires ♦M3PRT, ♦M3PRTS yellow (jaunte) parts addition
Jun  1976  2.25-16 tires ♦M3 metallic brown, M1 engine
Jun  1976  2.00-19 tires ♦M3T metallic brown, M1 engine

 

Cady Timeline

1966-67 ♦M1

1967-68 ♦M1, ♦M1P

1968-70 ♦M1, ♦M1P, ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT

1970-74 ♦M1, ♦M1P, ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT, ♦◊♦♦M1PRTS

1974-76 ♦M1, ♦M1P, ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT, ♦◊♦♦M1PRTS
1974-76 ♦M1, ♦M1P, ♦◊♦◊M3PR, ♦◊♦♦M3PRT, ♦◊♦♦M3PRTS

1976-78 ♦M3, ♦M3T, ♦◊♦◊M3PR,   ♦◊♦M3PRT,  ♦◊♦M3PRTS, ♦◊♦M3PRTSG

 

 

3. Engine Parts Comparison

The purpose is to provide replacement parts for Cady, by knowing which parts are the same as on US models. Cady’s were sold in Canada, but not in the US.

1959 Ward Riverside

1974 Motobecane Cady

1977 Motobecane 50V

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here ’66-77 Motobecane Cady engine parts are compared with other US-model Motobecane mopeds, ’57-64 Wards Riverside and ’74-80 Motobecane 50V.

 

Piston rings: In June 1976 Motobecane piston rings changed on all models. Before 6/76 the the 14821 ring gap style was GN (grano normal) where the piston ring stop pin was on one side of the ring groove. After 6/76 the 22148 ring gap style was GI (grano interno) where the piston ring pin was in the center of the ring groove. 

Cady pistons have 7 sorts and 2 ring gap styles
Left is 6/76-on, center-pin GI, 22481 to 22487
Right is to-6/76, side-pin GN, 19185 to 19103

 

Piston: Pistons for Isodyne engines (on Cady and Moby X) are special. They have a 11 mm wrist pin, unlike most other 50cc pistons, and a total height of 47.5mm. The cylinder bore is 39mm. More precisely,, the bore ranges from 38.98 to 39.04 mm in seven tiny increments of 0.01 mm, called sorts. Cylinders and pistons are stamped with a letter. The replacement piston should be the same sort as the cylinder (unless the cylinder is worn).

After July 1976 Motobecane stopped making pistons with side-pins. From then on they made only ones with center-pins. The seven sorts of pre-6/76 replacement pistons remaining in the late 1970’s were sold until each size ran out. Then only center-pin replacements 22481-22487 were supplied when an older part number 19185-19103 was requested.  

 

 

Colors: light grey means superseded, blue means same as AV7 Vc

 

——- Wards Riverside ——–   Cady   Cady   Cady    Motobecane USA 
AV7 V  AV7Dbe  —-AV7 V2—- isodyne sup-iso sup-iso AV7 Vb  —-AV7 Vc—- < engine model
1.5 hp  1.5 hp  1.5 hp  2.0 hp  1.5 hp  1.5 hp  2.0 hp  2.0 hp 1.5 hp 2.0 hp < horsepower
’57-59  ’61-62   1960   ’60-64  ’66-70 ’74-77 ’75-77   ’74-75 ’76-77 ’76-77 < year range
14007A 14030 14010A 14010C C1,M1    M3   PRTSG    50V    50V    50V    < bike model     

50165  ??????  50294  50298  19093  22200  22329  53745 52341 53745  engine complete
10165  ??????  50294  50298  3 #’s    22201  22313  53745 52341 53745  engine lower assy
14791  14791  14791  16625  19252  22227  22227  19885 19885 19885  cylinder head
14854  14854  14854  14854  19098  19098  19098  14854 14854 14854  head gasket
14816  16618  16618  16618  19081  22202  22202  19478 23460 23460  cylinder with piston
14816  16618  16618  16618  22480  22480  22480  23460 23460 23460  replaced with
14407  16673  16673  16619  19099  22235  00000  16619 16673 16619  intake pipe Ø16
14407  16673  16673  16619  19099  22235  00000  16619 16673 16619  intake pipe Ø17
14407  16673  16673  16619  19099  22235  22235  16619 16673 16619  intake pipe
14815  16620  16620  16620  19100  19100  19100  17073 17073 17073  intake gasket
14819  14819  14819  14819  00000  00000  00000  21240 22275 22275  piston A for 38.97 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103c 19185  19185  21242 22276 22276  piston B or C 38.98 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103e 19186  19186  21244 22277 22277  piston D or E for 38.99 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103g 19187  19187  21246 22278 22278  piston F or G for 39.00 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103 j 19188  19188  21248 22279 22279  piston H or J for 39.01 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103 l 19189  19189  21250 22280 22280  piston K or L for 39.02 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103n 19190  19190  21252 22281 22281  piston M or N for 39.03 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103p 19103  19103  21254 22435 22435  piston Q or P for 39.04 cylinder
above is pre-June’76 piston rings, GN gap style (side-pin), below is June’76-on, GI gap style (center-pin)
14819  14819  14819  14819  00000  00000  00000  22275 22275 22275  piston A for 38.97 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22481  22481  22481  22276 22276 22276  piston B or C for 38.98 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22482  22482  22482  22277 22277 22277  piston D or E for 38.99 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22483  22483  22483  22278 22278 22278  piston F or G for 39.00 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22484  22484  22484  22279 22279 22279  piston H or J for 39.01 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22485  22485  22485  22280 22280 22280  piston K or L for 39.02 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22486  22486  22486  22281 22281 22281  piston M or N for 39.03 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22487  22487  22487  22435 22435 22435  piston Q or P for 39.04 cylinder
14821  14821  14821  14821  14821  14821  14821  14821 14821 14821  piston ring pre-6/’76 39×2 GN
00000  00000  00000  00000  00000  00000  00000  22148 22148 22148  piston ring 6/’76-on 39×2 GI
14895  14895  14895  14895  19097  19097  19097  14895 14895 14895  base gasket
14716  14716  14716  14716  00000  00000  00000  14716 14716 14716  cylinder stud M7-1.00 x 129
14716  14716  14716  14716  19102  19102  19102  14716 14716 14716  cylinder bolt M6-1.00 x 25
14721  14721  14721  14721  19096  19975  19975  14721 14721 14721  decomp valve assembly
15094  15094  15094  15094  19169  00000  00000  15094 15094 15094  piston pin       13 x 30
15094  15094  15094  15094  19169  19169  19169  15094 15094 15094  piston pin       11 x 30
15855  15855  15855  15855  19084  19084  19084  15855 15855 15855  piston bearing 13-16 x 14
15855  15855  15855  15855  19084  19084  19084  15855 15855 15855  piston bearing 11-14 x 14
50230  16903  16903  16903  00000  00000  00000  19609 19609 19609  crankshaft
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  19645  19645  16906 16906 16906  bearing L 15-42×13 #6302
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  00000  00000  16906 16906 16906  bearing L 16-42×13 #6302-QR
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  19645  19645  16906 16906 16906  bearing L 15-42×19 #5302 dbl
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  19645  19645  16906 16906 16906  bearing L 17-47×14 #6303
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  00000  00026  16906 16906 16906  bearing R 15-35×11 #6202
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  00000  00000  16906 16906 16906  bearing R 16-42×13 #6302-QR
00060  00060  00060  00060  00000  000  0000000  19089 19089 19089  crank seal
14814  14814  14814  14814  00000  00000  00000  19608 19608 19608  crankcase
14896  14896  14896  16910  19088  19088  00000  16910 16910 16910  case gasket

 

 

1966-73 Motobecane Cady M1 or C1 engine parts illustration

 

1977 Cady magneto

 

 

 

 

Taiwan Moped Controls

June 27, 2021

updated 2021-06

Contents:

1.  Photos for Identification and Comparison

2. 1150. 2150 controls for Sachs-with-foot-brake or Minarelli

a. 1977-79 Lazer Sport 50, Sport 50 ST
a. made by Her Chee, 80 mm brakes Minarelli V1 engine, 1150 controls
a. 1978-79 General 5 Star, 5 Star ST
a. made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes,      Minarelli V1 engine, 1150 controls
b. 1977-78 Jui Li Honey 50
b. 1977-78 Clinton 50-A
b. 1978-79 Grycner moped
b. made by Jui Li, 80 mm Sachs 505/1A foot brake 2150 = 1150 controls

3. 1150-00, 3150, 5150 controls for Minarelli

a. 1979 General 5-Star
a. made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Minarelli V1 engine,     1150-00 controls
b. 1979-81 General 5-Star or C2, 5 Star ST
b. made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Minarelli V1 or C2 engine, 3150 controls
c. 1982-85 General 5-Star or C2, 5 Star ST
c. made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Minarelli V1 or C2 engine, 5150 controls

4. 1150-01, 4150, 5151 controls for Sachs-with-foot-brake

a. 1977-78 AMS Sierra 50
a. 1979-80 Grycner Floozie, Palm Springs
a. made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes Sachs 505/1A foot brake 1150-01 controls
b. 1979-80 General 5 Star ST
b. 1978-80 Jui Li Honey 50
b. 1978-80 Clinton 50-A
b. made by Jui Li, 80 mm brks, Sachs 505/1A, 1B foot brake, 4150 controls
c. 1980-83 General 5 Star ST
c. made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Sachs 505/1A foot brake,    5151 controls

5. 1150-00/1150-01, 3150/4150, 5150/5151 controls for Sachs

a. 1979-79 General 5 Star ST
a. made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Sachs 505/1A,   1150-00/1150-01 controls
b. 1980-83 General 5 Star, 5 Star ST
b. made by Jui Li,   80 mm brakes, Sachs 505/1A engine, 3150/4150 controls
c. 1980-85 General 5 Star
c. 1980-85 AMS Tahoe 50, Tahoe Sport G1
c. 1980-82 Foxi 47
c. 1980-83 General 5 Star ST
c. made by Her Chee, 110 mm brakes Sachs 505/1A or 1D 5150/5151 controls

 

 

1. Identification Photos

1150-6282

1150-6281

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1150-6282-00

1150-6281-00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3150-6282

3150-6281

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1150-6282-01 and 4150-6282

1150-6281-01 and 4150-6281

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3150-6282 and 5150-6282

3150-6281 and 5150-6281

4150-6281 and 5151-6281

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5150-6282 and 5150-6281 with 5151-6282 and 5151-6281

 

 

 

Japanese 5 mm screws changed in 1969

 

Screwy threads: The 5mm screws in the 5150 and 5151 black controls have regular metric thread M5-0.8. That has been the world standard since 1969. But the 5mm screws on all of the other Taiwan moped controls are pre-1969 JIS (Japan Industry Standard) thread M5-0.9, which is coarser.

1970’s Taiwan controls are remakes of 1960’s Japanese controls, made from 1960’s molds and tooling. 1980’s Taiwan controls are remakes of certain 1970’s Japanese controls, made from 1970’s molds and tooling. That’s why 1150, 3150, 4150 have the special thread and 5150, 5151 have regular thread. This thread confusion is only for the 5mm size screws. 

 

 

 

2. 1150 controls for Minarelli or Sachs foot-brake

1977-79 Lazer Sport 50, Sport 50 ST
made by Her Chee, 80 mm brakes, Minarelli V1 engine
1978-79 General 5 Star, 5 Star ST
made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Minarelli V1 engine

1977 Lazer Sport 50
Minarelli, hand brakes
1150 controls

1977 Lazer Sport 50 ST
Minarelli, hand brakes
1150 controls 

1979 General 5 Star ST
Minarelli, hand brakes
1150 controls (silver)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1977-78 Jui Li Honey 50
1977-78 Clinton 50-A
1978-79 Grycner moped
made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Sachs 505/1A engine with foot brake

1978 Jui Li Honey 50
Sachs, rear foot brake
1150 controls

1978 Clinton 50 A
Sachs, rear foot brake
1150 controls

1978 Grycner
1150 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Taiwan 1150 control housings are separate from the electrical switch housing. The electrical buttons are near the riders thumbs. The brake levers are about 1.5 inch longer, because the lever housings (perches) are 1.5 inch further inward on the handlebar.

Taiwan 1150 levers break easy, because they are only 6mm wide at the pivot. Most other vintage Japanese small motorcycle hand levers are 8mm wide at the pivot.

1150 and 2150: The entire Grycner parts list uses 2150 prefix on all parts except hardware. But most parts on a Grycner are the same as on Lazer step-thru. That is evident from photos. What is different is the engine, Minarelli or Sachs, and the parts that are connected to the engine. The 2150 controls are the same as 1150. The 2150 front brake cable is the same as 1150. But the 2150 throttle, start, and choke cables are different from 1150, since they go to different engines.

1150 left control

1150 right control

 

What the 1150 left control does:

Minarelli engine, rear hand brake:
left lever is rear brake, lower lever is clutch

Sachs 505 engine with rear foot brake:
left lever is clutch, lower lever is choke

 

 

Taiwan moped controls: a. 1150 Minarelli and b. 2150 Sachs

1150 list

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1150 list

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2150 list

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

o#   Taiwan#    qty  price
o#   Taiwan#    qty  price    price color: new, used   font:  original part, replacement part
o#   Taiwan#    ab  price    description     a is 1150 Minarelli, b is 2150 Sachs with foot brake
01  1150-6299  11  none    handlebar, no wires or mount holes
02  1150-6283  11  $15.0  mirror M8 screw-in round chrome
03  1150-6291  11  none    right grip 112 x 25 ribbed
04  1150-6290  11  $12.0  throttle twist tube
05  1150-6297  11  $35.0  throttle/switch assy engine stop
06  6220-1105  44  $0.20  lock washer ∅5
07  6130-5022  44  $1.50  phillips screw M5-0.9 x 22  (60’s JIS thread)
08  1150-6281  11  none    right lever assembly
08  1150-6281  11  $21.0  right lever assembly silver C
09  1150-6288  11  none    right lever bracket (perch)
10  1150-6286  11  $30.0   right brake lever H
10  1150-6286  11  $16.0  right brake lever H  w956-56-6264B
11  1150-6279  33  $3.00  cable adjuster M8 slotted
12  1150-6278  33  $2.00  adjuster nut M8 slotted
13  1150-6277  22  none    plastic plug for mirror hole (optional)
14  6110-6016  33  $1.50  pivot bolt M6 x 16 hex chrome
15  1150-6280  33  $5.00  bushing ∅6 ∅7 x 9
16  6110-6024  22  $1.00  clamp bolt M6 x 24 hex
17  1150-6292  11  none    left grip 112 x 22 ribbed
18  1150-6298  11  $45.0  left switch assembly
19  1150-6282  11  $75.0  left dual lever assembly F
19  1150-6282  11  $23.0  left single lever assembly silver A
20  1150-6289  11  $33‘0  left dual lever bracket (perch)
21  1150-6287  11  $30.0   left brake lever G
21  1150-6287  11  $16.0   left brake lever G  w956-56-6264C
22  1150-6285  11  $20.0  start (clutch or choke) lever, left style I
22  1150-6285  11  $20.0  start (clutch or choke) lever, right style J
23  1150-6296  10  $32.0  throttle cable Minarelli
00  2150-6296  01  $28.0  throttle cable Sachs-long-elbow
24  1150-6294  11  $27.0  front brake cable with switch
25  1150-6295  10  $27.0  rear brake cable with switch
26  1150-6293  10  $12.0  start cable Minarelli
00  2150-6293  01  $23.0  start cable Sachs
00  2150-6284  01  $23.0  choke cable Sachs for 1150 control
27  1150-6284  10  $0.00  retaining clip (at rear end of rear brake cable)
28  1150-8893  77  $3.00  rubber tie strap (for electrical wires only)
29  1150-6276  10  $3.00  clutch cable adjuster (at engine) M6

 

6mm thin type levers

Lazer original levers and substitutes

Lazer left perch

1150 left perch

Lazer right perch

1150 right perch

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. 1150-00, 3150 and 5150 controls for Minarelli

1979 General 5-Star
made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Minarelli V1 engine

1979 General 5 Star
1150-00 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1150-6282-00 control

1150-6281-00 control

1150-00 does not have threaded holes for brake light switches but 3150 does. The brake levers are shorter than 3150, 4150 ones, and pull the cable less. This design is for smaller hands.

The brake cable inner wire length required by the the 1150-00 controls is 3 mm less than on 3150, 4150, 5150 controls, but 4 to 5 mm more than on 1150 controls.

 

 

 

1979-81 General 5-Star or C2, 5 Star ST
made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Minarelli V1 or C2 engine

1979 General 5 Star
3150 controls

1980 General 5 Star
3150 controls

’81 General 5 Star
3150 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1982-85 General 5-Star or C2, 5 Star ST
made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Minarelli V1 or C2 engine

’82 General 5 Star
5150 controls

’83 General 5 Star ST
5150 controls

’83 General C2
5150 controls

’85 General 5 Star
5150 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3150 and 5150

3150 and 5150

Left control 3150: Left lever 3150-6287. The plastic start lever 3150-6285 with mount 3150-6289 was below the control. Start cable end hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end.

Left control 5150: Left lever 5150-6287. The metal start lever 5150-6285 with mount 5150-6289 was below the control. Start cable end hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end.

Right control 3150: Right lever 3150-6286. Brake cable hole 8.5.  No choke lever.

Right control 5150: Right lever 5150-6286. Brake cable hole 8.5.  No choke lever.

 

 

Taiwan moped controls: a. 1150-00, b. 3150 and c. 5150

1150-00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3150 list

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5150 list

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

o# 0000-0000-00   qty   price    price color: new, used   font:  original part, replacement part
o#  0000-0000-00  abc   price    description     a is 1150-00, b is 3150, c is 5150
01  3150-6299-00  111   none   handlebar, no wires or mount holes
02  1150-6298-01  100   none   left housing/switch assy small, no brake switch threads
02  3150-6298-00  010   none   left housing/switch assy silver with brake switch threads
02  5150-6298-00  001   none   left housing/switch assy black with brake switch threads
03  1150-6297-01  100   none   right housing/switch assy small, no brake switch threads
03  3150-6297-00  010  $45.0  right housing/switch assy silver, no choke lever threads
03  5150-6297-00  001   none   right housing/switch assy black, no choke lever threads
04  1150-6296-00  111  $32.0  throttle cable original
05  1150-6295-00  100  $27.0  rear brake cable with switch
05  3150-6295-00  011  $31.0  rear brake cable no switch
05  5150-6295-00  010  $15.0  rear brake cable 1-ended for Limited Edition only
06  1150-6294-00  100  $27.0  front brake cable with switch
06  3150-6294-00  011  $34.0  front brake cable no switch
05  5150-6294-00  010  $14.0  front brake cable 1-ended for Limited Edition only
07  3150-6293-00  111  $12.0  start cable
08  3150-6292-00  111  $5.00  left grip original   ∅22 x 105
09  3150-6291-00  111   none   right grip original ∅25 x 105
10  3150-6290-00  111  $20.0  throttle twist tube original for 105 grip
10  3150-6290L-0  111  $19.0  throttle twist tube long for 120 grip
11  3150-6289-00  110  18-12  start lever mount small M5-0.9 and M4 thread
11  5150-6289-00  001  $26.0  start lever mount large M5-0.8 and M4 thread
12  1150-6287-01  100  $14.0  left lever short-pull
12  3150-6287-00  010  $27.0  left lever medium
12  5150-6287-00  001  $36.0  left lever large
13  1150-6286-01  100  $14.0  right lever short, use 3150
13  3150-6286-00  010  $16.0  right lever medium
13  5150-6286-00  001  $29.0  right lever large used
14  1150-6285-01  100  none  start lever black plastic
14  3150-6285-00  010  $26.0  start lever silver metal
14  5150-6285-00  001  $26.0  start lever large black metal
15  1150-6283-00  111  $15.0  mirror M8 screw-in round chrome
16  1150-6282-00  100   none   left control assy small with lower lever
16  3150-6282-00  010  $85.0  left control assy silver with lower lever
16  5150-6282-00  001  95-80  left control assy black with lower lever
17  1150-6281-00  100   none   right control assy small no choke lever
17  3150-6281-00  010  65-40  right control assy silver no choke lever
17  5150-6281-00  001  $82.0  right control assy black no choke lever
17  3150-6281L-0  010  65-40  right control assy silver no choke lever, long for 120 grip
17  5150-6281L-0  001  $82.0  right control assy black no choke lever, long for 120 grip
18  3150-6280-00  330  $6.00  pivot bushing ∅5.0-∅6.0 x 11.8
19  1150-6279-00  111  $3.00  cable adjuster M8 slotted
20  1150-6278-00  222  $2.00  adjuster nut M8 slotted
21  1150-6275-00  444  $3.00  rubber tie strap (for electrical wires only)
22  1150-6274-00  111  $3.50  start cable adjuster
23  1150-6273-00  111  $2.50  start cable adjuster nut
24  3150-9089-00  111   none   sticker START
25  3150-9088-00  111   none   sticker HORN
26  3150-9087-00  111   none   sticker OFF  ON
27  3150-9086-00  111   none   sticker LIGHTS
28  3150-9085-00  111   none   sticker PRESS TO STOP RELEASE TO RUN
29  3150-9084-00  111   none   sticker STOP
30  3150-9083-00  111   none   sticker ENGINE STOP
31  3150-9082-00  111   none   sticker L TURN R
32  6220-1105-00  777  $0.20  lock washer ∅5
33  6160-0105-00  330  $1.00  nut M5-0.9 (60’s JIS thread)
33  6161-0105-00  003  $0.40  nut M5-0.8 
34  6130-5030-00  220  $1.50  rear screw M5-0.9 x 30 phillips  (60’s JIS thread)
34  6131-5030-00  002  $0.70  rear screw M5-0.8 x 30 phillips 
35  6130-5025-00  440  $1.50  pivot & front screw M5-0.9 x 25 (60’s JIS thread)
35  6131-5025-00  002  $0.60  front screw M5-0.8 x 25
35  5150-6280-00  002  $4.50  pivot screw M5-0.8 x 25 with shoulder ∅6 x 11
36  6130-5020-00  110  $0.60  start pivot screw M5-0.9 x 20 phillips (60’s JIS thread)
37  5150-6281-00  001  $6.00  start pivot screw M5-0.8 x 22 with shoulder ∅6 x 11
37  6130-5010-00  110  $3.00  start mount screw M5-0.9 x 10 phillips (60’s JIS thread)
37  6131-5010-00  001  $0.60  start mount screw M5-0.8 x 10 phillips
38  6130-4006-00  111  $2.50  start mount screw M4-0.7 x 6 phillips

 

 

4. 1150-01, 4150 and 5151 controls for Sachs foot-brake

1977-78 AMS Sierra 50
1979-80 Grycner Floozie, Palm Springs
made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Sachs 505/1A engine with foot brake

1978 AMS Sierra 50 with 1150-01 controls
This left control now has a 4150 left lever.

1980 Grycner Floozie with 1150-01 controls
This left control now has a 1150-01 right lever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1150-6282-01 and 4150-6282

1150-6281-01 and 4150-6281

1150-01 does not have threaded holes for brake light switches but 4150 does.

1150-01 brake levers are shorter than 3150, 4150 ones, and pull the cable less. This design is for smaller hands.

The brake cable inner wire length required by the the 1150-01 controls is 3 mm less than on 3150, 4150, 5150 controls, but 4 to 5 mm more than on 1150 controls.

 

 

1979-80 General 5 Star ST
1978-80 Jui Li Honey 50
1978-80 Clinton 50-A
made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Sachs 505/1A, 1B engine with foot-brake

1978 Jui Li Honey 50
4150 controls

1978 Clinton 50A
4150 controls

1980 General 5-Star ST
4150 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1980-85 AMS Sierra 50
1980-82 Sachs G4
made by Her Chee, with Sachs 505/1A, B or D foot brake engine

1981 Sachs G4, 505/1B foot brake
rod type F brake cable, 4150 controls

1981 Sachs G4
4150 controls

 

 

 

Sachs G4 rear foot brake
110 mm ID brake drum

 

 

 

 

3150 rear brake cable. left: 110 mm drum, right: 80 mm drum. They both use the same cable!
Here an Angel ∅80-left brake plate is shown, an exact mirror image of a General ∅80-right.

 

 

 

1984 AMS Sierra 50
505/1D foot brake
rod type F brake cable

’84 AMS Sierra 50
505/1D foot brake
rod type F brake cable

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

left control 4150-6282

right control 4150-6281

Left control: Has threaded hole for brake light switch. The left lever 4150-6287 was used as the start lever. It was made black to distinguish it from the right brake lever. A sticker says “start” and points to the black lever. Cable hole 8.5 mm for a 8.0 mm diameter barrel end.

Right control: Has threaded hole for brake light switch. Right lever 3150-6286 had a 8.5 cable hole for 8.0 cable end. Choke lever 4150-6270.

 

1980-83 General 5 Star ST
made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Sachs 505/1A engine with foot brake

1983 General 5 Star ST
5151 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

right control 5151-6281

left control 5151-6282

 

Left control: The start lever and mount were removed. Brake cable hole 8.5 mm for a 8.0 mm barrel end.

Right control: Brake cable 8.0 barrel end.  Choke lever 2150-6287. Choke lever hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end.

 

 

 

 

Taiwan moped controls: a. 1150-01, b. 4150, and c. 5151

1150-00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4150 list

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5151 list

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

o# 0000-0000-00   qty   price    price color: new, used   font:  original part, replacement part
o#  0000-0000-00  abc   price    description     a is 1150-01, b is 4150, c is 5151
01  3150-6299-00  111   none   handlebar, no wires or mount holes
02  1150-6298-01  100   none   left housing/switch assy, no brake switch threads
02  4150-6298-00  010   none   left housing/switch assy with brk sw threads, no start lever hole
03  1150-6297-01  100   none   right housing/switch assy with choke threads
03  4150-6297-00  010  $48.0  right housing/switch assy with choke & BL switch threads
04  2150-6296-00  110  $28.0  throttle cable for Sachs-Bing long pipe
04  1151-6296-00  001  $27.0  throttle cable for Sachs-Bing short pipe
05  1150-6294-00  100  $27.0  front brake cable with switch
05  3150-6294-00  011  $34.0  front brake cable for ∅80 hub
05  1151-6294-00  011  $27.0  front brake cable for ∅110 hub 
06  4150-6293-00  111  $23.0  start cable Sachs replacement
07  3150-6292-00  111  $5.00  left grip original   ∅22 x 105
08  3150-6291-00  111   none   right grip original ∅25 x 105
09  3150-6290-00  111  $20.0  throttle twist tube original for 105 grip
09  3150-6290L-0  111  $19.0  throttle twist tube long for 120 grip
10  1150-6287-01  100  $14.0  left lever short pull (clutch)
10  4150-6287-00  010  $28.0  left lever medium dark, means “not brake”
10  5150-6287-00  001  $36.0  left lever large (clutch)
11  1150-6286-01  100  $14.0  right lever short pull (front brake)
11  3150-6286-00  010  $16.0  right lever medium (front brake)
11  5150-6286-00  001  $29.0  right lever large (front brake) used
12  4150-6284-00  111  $20.0  choke cable Sachs original
13  1150-6283-00  111  $15.0  mirror M8 screw-in round chrome
14  1150-6282-01  100   none   left control assembly no lower lever
14  4150-6282-00  010  $95.0  left control assembly no lower lever
14  5151-6282-00  001   none   left control assembly no lower lever
15  1150-6281-01  100  $75.0  right control assy used with choke lever
15  4150-6281-00  010  75-50  right control assembly with choke lever
15  5151-6281-00  001  $105.  right control assembly with choke lever
15  4150-6281L-0  010  75-50  right control assy silver with choke lever, long for 120 grip
15  5151-6281L-0  001  $105.  right control assy black with choke lever, long for 120 grip
16  3150-6280-00  220  $6.00  pivot bushing ∅5.0-∅6.0 x 11.8
17  1150-6279-00  111  $3.00  cable adjuster M8 slotted
18  1150-6278-00  222  $2.00  adjuster nut M8 slotted
19  2150-6276-00  111  $2.50  pinch bolt P7 for start cable
20  1150-6275-00  444  $3.00  rubber tie strap (for electrical wires only)
21  2150-6274-00  111    none   cable adjuster dark, same as 1150-6279
22  4150-6272-00  111  $4.00  choke shim washer ∅9.0-∅15.0 x 0.5 
23  4150-6271-00  111  $2.50  choke plain washer ∅5.3-∅15.8 x 1.0
24  4150-6270-00  111  $9.00  choke lever ∅8.5
25  4150-6269-00  111  $6.50  choke lever bracket
26  4150-9089-00  111   none   sticker START
27  3150-9088-00  111   none   sticker HORN
28  3150-9087-00  111   none   sticker OFF  ON
29  3150-9086-00  111   none   sticker LIGHTS
30  4150-9085-00  111   none   sticker CHOKE
31  3150-9084-00  111   none   sticker STOP
32  3150-9083-00  111   none   sticker ENGINE STOP
33  3150-9082-00  111   none   sticker L TURN R
34  6220-1105-00  666  $0.20  lock washer ∅5
35  6160-0105-00  220  $1.00  nut M5-0.9 (60’s JIS thread)
35  6161-0105-00  002  $0.40  nut M5-0.8 
36  6130-5030-00  220  $1.50  rear screw M5-0.9 x 30 phillips  (60’s JIS thread)
36  6131-5030-00  002  $0.70  rear screw M5-0.8 x 30 phillips
37  6130-5025-00  220  $1.50  front screw M5-0.9 x 25 phillips  (60’s JIS thread)
37  6131-5025-00  002  $0.60  front screw M5-0.8 x 25 phillips
37  6130-5022-00  220  $1.50  pivot screw M5-0.9 x 22 phillips  (60’s JIS thread)
37  5150-6280-00  002  $4.50  pivot screw M5-0.8 x 25 with shoulder ∅6 x 11
37  6130-5010-00  110  $3.50  choke screw M5-0.9 x 10 phillips  (60’s JIS thread)
37  6131-5008-00  001  $0.60  choke screw M5-0.8 x 8 phillips (or 10)

 

 

5. 1150-00/01, 3150/4150, 5150/5151 for Sachs hand-brake

1980-83 General 5 Star, 5 Star ST
made by Jui Li, 80 mm brakes, Sachs 505/1A engine

1980 General 5 Star ST
3150/4150 controls

1983 General 5 Star ST
3150/4150 controls

1981 General 5 Star
5150/5151 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1980-85 General 5 Star
1980-85 AMS Tahoe 50, Tahoe Sport G1
1980-82 Foxi 47
1980-83 General 5 Star ST
made by Her Chee, 110 mm brakes, Sachs 505/1A or 1D engine

1980 Foxi 47
3150/4150 controls
rod type F brake cable

1980 5 Star ST 
3150/4150 controls

1983 General 5 Star
5150/5151 controls

1983 AMS Tahoe G2
rod type F brake cable

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1983 5-Star (Her Chee), 5150/5151 controls

’84 AMS Tahoe Sport
3150/4150 controls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3150/4150 controls are on dual hand brake models with Sachs engines

1151 rod-type front brake cable is on big hub models made by Her Chee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3150 and 5150

4150 and 5151

 

Left control: The metal start lever 5150-6287 with mount 5150-6289 was below the control.  Start cable end hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end. Brake cable hole 8.5 mm for a 8.0 mm barrel end.

Right control: Brake cable 8.0 barrel end.  Choke lever 2150-6287. Choke lever hole 6.5 mm for a 6.0 diameter barrel end.

 

 

 

 

Taiwan moped controls: a. 1150-00/1150-01, b. 3150/4150 and c. 5150/5151

o# 0000-0000-00   qty
o# 0000-0000-00   qty   price    price color: new, used   font:  original part, replacement part
o#  0000-0000-00  abc   price    description   a is 1150-00/1150-01, b is 3150/4150, c is 5150/5151
01  3150-6299-00  111   none   handlebar, no wires or mount holes
02  1150-6298-00  100   none   left housing/switch assy silver, no brake switch threads
02  3150-6298-00  010   none   left housing/switch assy silver, with brake switch threads
02  5150-6298-00  001   none   left housing/switch assy black, with brake switch threads
03  1150-6297-01  100   none   right housing/switch assy silver, no brake switch threads
03  4150-6297-00  010  $48.0  right housing/switch assy silver with choke threads
03  5151-6297-00  001   none   right housing/switch assy black with choke and brake switch threads
04  2150-6296-00  110  $28.0  throttle cable for Sachs-Bing long pipe
04  1151-6296-00  001  $27.0  throttle cable for Sachs-Bing short pipe
05  1150-6295-00  100  $27.0  rear brake cable with switch
05  3150-6295-00  011  $31.0  rear brake cable rod type for 80 or 110
06  1150-6294-00  100  $27.0  front brake cable non-rod with switch
06  3150-6294-00  011  $34.0  front brake cable non-rod for ∅80 hub
06  1151-6294-00  011  $27.0  front brake cable rod type for ∅110 hub
07  4150-6293-00  111  $23.0  start cable Sachs
08  3150-6292-00  111  $5.00  left grip original   ∅22 x 105
09  3150-6291-00  111   none   right grip original ∅25 x 105
10  3150-6290-00  111  $20.0  throttle twist tube original for 105 grip
10  3150-6290L-0  111  $19.0  throttle twist tube long for 120 grip
11  3150-6289-00  110  18-12  start lever mount small M5-0.9 and M4 thread
11  5150-6289-00  001  $26.0  start lever mount large M5-0.8 and M4 thread
12  1150-6287-01  100  $14.0  left lever short pull
12  3150-6287-00  010  $27.0  left lever medium
12  5150-6287-00  001  $36.0  left lever large
13  1150-6286-01  100  $14.0  right lever short pull
13  3150-6286-00  010  $16.0  right lever medium
13  5150-6286-00  001  $29.0  right lever large used
14  1150-6285-01  100  $22.0  start lever black plastic
14  3150-6285-00  010  $26.0  start lever silver metal
14  5150-6285-00  001  $26.0  start lever large black metal
15  1150-6283-00  111  $15.0  mirror M8 screw-in round chrome
16  1150-6282-00  100   none   left control assy small with lower lever
16  3150-6282-00  010  $85.0  left control assy silver with lower lever
16  5150-6282-00  001  $95.0  left control assy black with lower lever
17  1150-6281-01  100  $75.0  right control assy used small with choke lever
17  4150-6281-00  010  75-50  right control assy silver with choke lever
17  5151-6281-00  001  $105.  right control assy black with choke lever
17  4150-6281L-0  010  75-50  right control assy silver with choke lever, long for 120 grip
17  5151-6281L-0  001  $105.  right control assy black with choke lever, long for 120 grip
18  3150-6280-00  330  $6.00  pivot bushing
19  1150-6279-00  222  $3.00  cable adjuster M8 slotted
20  1150-6278-00  222  $2.00  adjuster nut M8 slotted
21  1150-6275-00  444  $3.00  rubber tie strap (for electrical wires only)
22  1150-6274-00  111  $3.50  start cable adjuster
23  1150-6273-00  111  $2.50  start cable adjuster nut
24  4150-9089-00  111   none   sticker START
25  3150-9088-00  111   none   sticker HORN
26  3150-9087-00  111   none   sticker OFF  ON
27  3150-9086-00  111   none   sticker LIGHTS
28  4150-9085-00  111   none   sticker CHOKE
29  3150-9084-00  111   none   sticker STOP
30  3150-9083-00  111   none   sticker ENGINE STOP
31  3150-9082-00  111   none   sticker L TURN R
32  6220-1105-00  777  $0.20  lock washer ∅5
33  6160-0105-00  330  $1.00  nut M5-0.9 (60’s JIS thread)
33  6161-0105-00  003  $0.40  nut M5-0.8
34  6130-5030-00  220  $1.50  rear screw M5-0.9 x 30 phillips  (60’s JIS thread)
34  6131-5030-00  002  $0.70  rear screw M5-0.8 x 30 phillips
35  6130-5025-00  440  $1.50  pivot & front screw M5-0.9 x 25 (60’s JIS thread)
35  6131-5025-00  002  $0.60  front screw M5-0.8 x 25
35  5150-6280-00  002  $4.50  pivot screw M5-0.8 x 25 with shoulder ∅6 x 11
36  6130-5020-00  110  $0.60  start pivot screw M5-0.9 x 20 phillips (60’s JIS thread)
36  5150-6281-00  001  $6.00  start pivot screw M5-0.8 x 22 with shoulder ∅6 x 11
37  6130-5010-00  110  $3.00  start mount screw M5-0.9 x 10 phillips (60’s JIS thread)
37  6131-5010-00  001  $0.60  start mount screw M5-0.8 x 10 phillips
38  6130-4006-00  111  $2.50  start mount screw M4-0.7 x 6 phillips 
41  4150-6284-00  111  $20.0  choke cable Sachs
42  4150-6272-00  111  $4.00  choke shim washer ∅9.0-∅15.0 x 0.5 
43  4150-627 1-00 111  $2.50  choke plain washer ∅5.3-∅15.8 x 1.0
44  4150-6270-00  111  $9.00  choke lever ∅8.5
45  4150-6269-00  111  $6.50  choke lever bracket

 

 

ULO Tail Lights

April 18, 2021

ULO made tail lights, reflectors, and turn signals for German mopeds, Hercules (Sachs), Kreidler, Solo, Kynast, and tail lights for many non-German mopeds, Batavus, Sparta, Puch, Peugeot, Motobecane and Honda PA50. 

ULO was founded by Moritz Ullman in 1947 in Geislingen Germany. Ullman knew how to make molded glass products, like bicycle reflectors. Today ULO is worldwide, making tail lights for cars like BMW and Audi.

250 and 248: There are two versions of 1970’s -80’s moped tail lights, 250 and 248. The black housing says the number on the inside. The 250 came first in about 1972 to 1978. The 248 replaced the 250 in about 1978 to 1984. 

Dates: ULO plastic parts have a date mark. The lens has the compliance standards and those have a start date.

Identification

1975 ULO 250-1   lens 250-0015
bulb 6V 18/5w brake/tail
USA ’75-80 Motobecane 40 and ’75-77 50, 50V

1977 ULO 250-2   lens 248-0015
upper bulb 6V 10w brake, lower bulb 6V 5w tail
USA ’75-78 Batavus, Columbia, Hercules, Kreidler,
Kynast, Puch, Sparta, Solo, ’78-80 Honda PA50

1978 ULO 248-1   lens 248-0015
bulb 6V 18/5w brake/tail
USA ’78-80 Motobecane 50, 50V

1978 ULO 248-2   lens 248-0015
upper bulb 6V 10w brake, lower bulb 6V 5w tail
USA ’78-83 Peugeot 103SP, Columbia, Solo, Sparta

1978 ULO 248-3   lens 248-0015
upper bulb 6V 10w brake, lower bulb 6V 5W tail
ignition ground resistor in parallel with brake
USA ’78-82 Batavus 

Rep 250 replica, bulbs 12V 10w and 12V 5w
has no upper mount hole, loose bulb sockets
does not allow original wires under fender

The housing has no upper mount hole, so a 6mm (15/64″) hole must be drilled. The housing and lens screw hole tubes are 2mm higher and 1mm farther apart. So the lens does not directly fit an original ULO 250 housing. The bulb holder-mirror is different, a metal plate with plastic bulb sockets that are loose. The looseness might cause bulb burnout from vibration. The bulb sockets have 3mm male blade connectors, instead of 8mm male blades like the originals. So the original wires with 8mm female blade connectors will not fit. 

Rep 250-w replica, bulbs 6V 10w and 6V 5w
modified to accept original wires

Made from: 1) Rep-hous with the upper mount hole drilled, M5 or M6 mount bolt added, wires hole widened to 9 mm, 2) Rep-mirr with 8mm blade connectors soldered on, 3) Rep-lens, 4) Rep-ST44 screws.

Benefits: 1) allows the original wires to be reused, 2) the wire connectors are protected inside the light, unlike a plain Rep 250 where they are under the fender, 3) replaces ULO 250-2. Can also replace CEV lights without ignition ground resistors, with fender drilling.

Rep 250m1 replica, bulb 6V 21/5w (or 12V)
modified with ULO 1-bulb holder

Made from: 1) Rep-hous with the upper mount hole drilled, M5 or M6 mount bolt added, lens screw posts reduced in height, wires hole widened to 9 mm, 2) 250-0016 with the top cut down by 2 mm and the screw holes moved 1 mm farther apart by grinding off the outer edge, 3) Rep-lens, 4) 250-ST55 55 mm screws shortened to 50 mm.

Benefits: 1) solid bulb sockets for less bulb burn out, 2) uses the same original wires, no soldering, 3) replaces ULO 250-1. Can also replace CEV lights with ignition ground resistors, with fender drilling.

Rep 250m2 replica, bulbs 6V 10W and 6V 5W (or 12V)
modified with ULO 2-bulb holder

Made from: 1) Rep-hous with the upper mount hole drilled, M5 or M6 mount bolt added, the lens screw posts reduced in height, the wires hole widened to 9 mm, 2) 248-0016 with the top cut down by 2 mm and the screw holes moved 1 mm farther apart by grinding off the outer edge, 3) Rep-lens, 4) 250-ST55 55 mm screws shortened to 50 mm.

Benefits: 1) solid bulb sockets for less bulb burn out, 2) uses the same original wires, no soldering, 3) replaces ULO 250-2. Can also replace CEV lights without ignition ground resistors, with fender drilling.

 

 

Lights for Sale

Originals
60a ULO 250-1  $73 used, 6V 21/5w bulb (or 12V)
60a ULO 250-2  N/A used, 6V 10w, 6V 5w (or 12V)
60b ULO 248-1  $65 used, 6V 21/5w bulb (or 12V)
60b ULO 248-2  N/A used, 6V 10w, 6V 5w (or 12V)
60b ULO 248-3  $80 used, 6V 10w, 6V 5w with ignition resistor

Replicas
60a Rep 250 -0  $25 12V 10w, 12V 5w, sold as is
60a Rep 250-w  $42 6V 10w, 6V 5w bulbs (or 12V)
60a Rep 250m1 $48 6V 21/5w single bulb (or 12V)
60a Rep 250m2 $55 6V 10w, 6V 5w bulbs (or 12V)

Parts for Sale

61a 250-6017 none  ULO250 housing used
61a 250-hous $30.0 Rep250 housing modified
61a 250-hous $00.0 lens screws must be 5mm shorter
61r  Rep-hous $15.0 Rep250 housing (not modified)
61b 248-6017 $20.0 ULO248 housing used broken

left 61a 250-hous, right 61a 250-6017

62x 250-pum  $0.50 Puch upper bolt M5x32
62a 250-upm  $0.50 250 upper bolt M6x32
62b 248-upm  $0.50 248 upper bolt M6x25

63a 250-ST55 $1.00 250 lens screw self-threading x 55
63a 250-ST50 $2.00 shortened screw self-threading x 50
63b 248-m445 $0.70 248 lens screw M4 x 45
63r  Rep-ST44 $1.00 Rep 250 lens screw self-threading 3.95 x 44

64x 248-0015 $30.0 new original lens ’76-84 holes 89 mm
64x 250-lens  $23.0 replica lens modified, requires modified housing
64a 250-0015 $35.0 used original lens ’72-75 holes 89 mm
64r  Rep-lens  $16.0 replica lens unmodified, holes 90, 2 mm higher

left 64 250-0015, right 64 250-lens

65x 250-gask $7.00 ULO 250 lens gasket
65x 250-gask $0.00 not for ULO 248 or Rep 250

66x 250-ge63 $2.00 6V 5w lower bulb GE 63
66   250-ge67 $1.50 12V 5w lower bulb GE 67

67x 250-ge81 $2.00 6V 10w upper bulb GE 81
67   250-ge89 $1.50 12V 10w upper bulb GE 89
67a 248-1154 $2.00 6V 21/5w dual bulb GE 1154
67a 248-1157 $1.20 12V 21/5w dual bulb GE 1157

68x 250-lomb $0.50 “Puch” lower bolt M5x16
68a 248-lomb $0.80 non-Puch lower bolt M6x16
68c 248-lwas  $0.20 non-Puch lower mnt washer M6

61a 250-hous, 69b 250-csh3

69x 250-csh1 $9.00 cushion foam (only on some)
69a 250-csh2 $9.00 cushion thick (only on some)
69b 250-csh3 $9.00 cushion thin (only on some)

69a thick on top, 69b thin, flat, 69 foam, flat

70x 250-locw  $0.20 “Puch” mount lock washer M5
70a 248-locw  $0.20 non-Puch mnt lock washer M6

71x 250-mnut $0.25 “Puch” mount hex nut M5
71a 248-mnut $0.25 non-Puch mount hex nut M6

72x 248-grom $1.00 grommet for 2-bulb mirror

left 73 248-mirr, right 73 248-0016

73x 248-0016 $25.0 used 2-bulb holder-mirror
73x 248-mirr  $32.0 used 2-bulb holder modified
73a 250-0016 $13.0 1-bulb holder-mirror
73a 250-mirr  $20.0 1-bulb holder modified
73r  Rep-mirr  $10.0 Rep 250 bulb holder-mirror

73r Rep-mirr

The little rubber grommets #72 for the two-bulb holder-mirror, are important. When one is missing, the bulb holder is loose. Engine vibration causes the loose holder to “buzz” or vibrate and rub against the lens and housing. The buzzing causes the bulbs to burn out, and produces white powder. The white plastic dust or powder is evidence of “buzzing”.  Slices of small rubber hose can be good substitutes.

 

 

 

 

Other Tail Lights

April 18, 2021

 

4. Peterson Tail Lights

Peterson tail lights, made in Grandview, Missouri USA, were on ’76-80 Jawa and ’76-77 Derbi mopeds.

Peterson PM420

Peterson PM-420 1960’s – 70’s trailer tail light
used on 1976-77 Jawa Babetta (USA models)

–   3296-061  N/A  Tail Lamp PM420
1   3296-061  N/A  Lamp housing
2    3296-061 N/A Lens used PM420-15
3  34544-001 50¢ Lens screw ST (2)
4      34213 $1.00 Nut 3/8-24 fine
5      34213    50¢ Lock washer 3/8″
6      60507  $2.00 Bulb 6V 21/5W #1154

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Peterson PM-421 meets 1970’s US safety standards for motorcycle tail lamps (shines to the sides). Also has built-in side reflectors, eliminating the need for separate ones. Used on 1978-80 Jawa, 1976-77 Derbi, and not many others. 

–  70106  N/A Tail lamp used PM-421
1  70100  $33 Housing-mirror used PM-421
2  70101  N/A Lens cover new PM-421-15
3  70102  N/A Lens screw ST (3)
4  70103  N/A Mount screw ST (3)
5  60507  $2.00 Bulb 6V 21/5W #1154

Peterson PM-421 tail light

6  422-10  $19 plastic mount PM-422-10
7  422-24  $$6 mount rubber PM-422-24

Jawa metal mount

PM-422 plastic mount

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5. Stanley Tail Lights

Dozens of different Stanley tail lights, made in Japan, are on most Honda motorcycles and mopeds. Here we focus on those used on mopeds and small motorcycles.  

Stanley 040-4765 tail light

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Stanley 040-4765, used on 1977-85 General (top-tank), Lazer (top-tank) and compatibles, made in Taiwan.

1  N/A lamp assembly
2  N/A chrome housing-mirror
2  N/A (2) M6 threaded holes spaced 90mm
3  N/A mount bracket (not shown)
4  $2.00 bulb 6V 21/5W
5 $8 lens gasket
6 none  lens screw M4x50 phillips-wide
7  $40 red lens new, small crack on clear bottom

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Stanley HM-23RC tail light

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Stanley HM-23RC, used on 1977-83 Honda Express NC50 and Express II NA50, made in Japan.

1 none  lamp assembly
2 $45.0 black housing-mirror-mount with license mount
2 none  (3) M6 bolt-thru rubber mounts
4 $2.00 bulb 6V 21/5W
5 none  lens gasket (used)
6 none  lens screws ST (2) 60mm
7 $8.00 red lens (used, side reflectors broken off)

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Stanley HM-42RC tail light, with NS50 mount

Stanley HM-42RC, used on 1984-85 Honda Spree NQ50, 1990 Honda NS50, and other late 1980’s Hondas.

1  $45 lamp assembly, without mount
2  $35 black housing-mirror
2  $45 (2) M5 threaded holes spaced 100mm
3  $10 black mount for NS50 (shown)
2  $18 black mount for NQ50 with license mount
4  $1.20 bulb 12V 21/5W
5 $12 lens gasket (used)
6 $$3 lens screws ST (2) 40mm
7  $15 red lens (used)

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6. Cat Eye Tail Lights

Cat Eye reflectors, lights, and turn signal kits, for bicycles and mopeds, were made in Japan.

Cat Eye TL-800 tail light with mount

Cat Eye TL-800, used on 1977-85 Taiwan mopeds, Indian, Angel, General (step-thru) and compatibles.

1 $70.0 lamp assembly, with mount, used
2 $42.0 chrome housing-mirror, used
3 $35.0 black metal mount (shown) good-used
4 $2.00 bulb 6V 21/5W #1154
5 $12.0 lens gasket (used)
6 $1.00 lens screw M4 x 50 or 55 phillips
7 $32.0 red lens 35mm hole spacing

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7. Saturnus Tail Lights

Saturnus tail, turn and head lights were made in Ljubljana, Slovenia. Saturnus tail lights were only on 2012-13 Tomos mopeds (US models), but they have been on European models for decades. 

 Saturnus 2-bulb tail lamp parts, from 2012 Tomos USA Parts Manual.

#  part#  price  qty    description
30  223572  N/A   1  Rear lamp 2012-on
31  044698 $1.50 1  bulb 12V/5W  BA15S
32  044689 $1.50 1  bulb 12V/10W BA15S
33  044439  $$1   2  Lens screw ST 3.9×16
34  236963  N/A   1  Rear lamp holder (mount) 2012-on
35  026690 1- .60 2  Screw M6x16 button-head allen
36  031509  20¢   2  Washer 6
37  222187  $$8   2  Distance tube 6x10x7.5 (not 6x9x5.5 like pre-2012)
38  219946  $$5   2  Vibration rubber for taillight xxx (same as pre-2012)
39  031925  20¢   2  Washer 6 xxxxxxxxxx   (lower is same as pre-2012)

Saturnus tail light

40  044284 $1.40 2  hex bolt M6x22 xxxxxx  (not M6x20 like pre-2012)
41  217674  50¢   2  Washer 6.4×16 xxxxxxx (not 8.4×16 like pre-2012)
42  030040  50¢   2  Nut M6 self-locking (not shoulder nut like pre-2012)

The fender mount was made to interchange with CEV 9417. The upper 6mm stud on CEV 9417 was very short. That made the special shoulder nut necessary, on 1978-2012 Tomos with CEV 9417. This Saturnus mount uses separate bolts, which are longer. That eliminates the need for a more costly shoulder nut. So Saturnus mount uses a 2mm shorter nut, 2mm longer bolt, 2mm longer spacer. This makes the bolts/nuts 2mm closer to the rear tire.  

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8. Fiem Tail Lights

Fiem tail and turn lights are made in India. On US models, Fiem rear lamps are on early 2000’s Hero Pacer, Panther, Ankur (Hero Majestic), Cosmo Stinger (Mont) and Avanti Autopower, Mont, Supersport, Kobra (Mont) mopeds.

Fiem tail light on Hero Pacer

Fiem tail light on Avanti Autopower

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These two lights are the same. The Avanti one is missing the lower red reflector and left side reflector. The Hero one is missing the right side reflector. The top bulb is bigger for the brake light, 12V 10W with base BA15S (bayonet 12 mm single contact). The bottom bulb is smaller for the tail light, 12V 4W with base BA9S (bayonet 9 mm single contact). The tail light also illuminates the license plate through a clear bottom in the red lens.

 

The Avanti wire colors are yellow = tail, green = brake, black = ground. See wirings for more.

 

Tail Lights and Turn Lights Menu

April 18, 2021

updated 2021-04

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USA moped tail lights: 1970’s and 1980’s USA moped models generally have different tail lights than European models. That is because of the 1972 and 1976 US DOT motor vehicle safety requirements for motor-driven cycles and motorized bicycles. The rear light must shine to the rear and the sides, and illuminate the license plate. The rear of the bike must have red side and rear reflectors. Putting the reflectors with the tail light eliminates the need for adding them on elsewhere. Also the bulbs are bigger, 15 not 9mm, because of higher watts required for the running light, 5 watts instead of 3, and for the brake light 10 watts instead of nothing.  

The most troublesome US DOT requirement was that the brake light operation cannot cause the head light to get dimmer. This meant that the brake light had to be powered by a separate source coil in the magneto-generator. There was no solid-state voltage regulation until the mid-1980’s. The AC voltage was crudely regulated by generator magnetism, rather than a external mechanical or electronic device.

 

Internal ignition ground family: Some US moped versions had an additional source coil to operate the brake light, such as Puch or Batavus (Bosch magnetos). On these the brake light wires never cause the engine to not run. The ignition source coil is grounded internally, inside the generator. So the ignition is never affected by any of the lights.

The brake light only needs to be matched with the generator source coil, usually 6 volt 10 watt. Unlike your house, a higher wattage bulb makes less light. If a 6V 18W bulb is used, it will be dim. If a 6V 5W bulb is used, it will be too bright and burn out.

 

External ignition ground family: Some US mopeds use the ignition source coil to operate the brake light, such as Garelli or Minarelli with (CEV magnetos). On these the brake light wires can cause the engine to loose spark and not run. If the connecters or wires are corroded or loose, on the brake light wires, the engine will stall when the brakes are applied. If the brake switch wires up at the handlebars are also loose, then the engine will not ever “have spark”. Removing the tail light assembly, or changing it, can cause these bikes to not run.

The brake light needs a 4 ohm (10 watt max) resistor in parallel with a 6 volt 10 watt bulb #81, or just a 6 volt 18 watt bulb #1129, or a 6V 21/5W #1154 dual filament bulb. For a brighter brake light but a weaker ignition spark, the resistor can be 6.8 ohm 10 watt.

 

Modern family: After the 1980’s, thankfully, there were no more mopeds with external ignition grounds. They had internal ignition grounds. So the brake light wires never cause the engine to loose spark. Their solid state AC voltage regulators allowed all the lights to run off of the same generator wire, yet still stay the same brightness as additional lights (brake) were turned off or on. The modern family also uses 12 volt bulbs instead of 6 volt.

The brake light bulb does not need to be any particular wattage. Just like in your house, a higher wattage bulb would produce more light. You want the brake light to be brighter than the tail light, for safety, but it doesn’t need to be.

 

Price List: Prices are for each item. Bright green means new. Dark green means used. N/A means not available.

Screws: M means metric machine screw M3, M4, M5, M6. ST means self tapping screw (for plastic).

C. Filters, Fittings, Hoses, Seal Rings

April 16, 2021

 

Inline Fuel Filters

3/16" inline filter round clear

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C1 3/16″ inline filter, round screen type, 12-1585 $6

 

1/4" inline filter round clear paper

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C2 1/4″ inline filter, round screen type, 15-1520 $6

 

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C3 1/4″ inline filter, 90 deg paper type, 15-1796 $3

 

Screw-on Adaptors

C4: 10×1 male to 12×1 male adapter  $12 plus $2 for the seal ring

C4 adapter
10 to 12  $12

10x1 to 12x1 gas valve adapter

C4 adapter installed

Sometimes a gas tank has a 10 x 1 threaded gas valve hole that is close to a “wall”, preventing the gas valve from screwing on or off, unless the tank is removed. Sometimes removal of the tank is very difficult, like on a Cimatti City Bike. In those cases an adaptor fitting can be used to convert to a turn-buckle type gas valve, where only the nut turns. 

A 10mm washer made of plastic, paper, or other semi-hard material provides the seal, not the threads. 

 

 

Screw-on Extenders

What is an extender and when is it needed? An extender is a piece that moves a M10-1.0 screw-on valve away from the tank.

1. For when the petcock handle hits the tank in the up (reserve) position. Most original valves had reserve pointing up, ↑reserve  off→ on↓. Original valves with an up position often had to be moved away from the bottom of the tank with an extender, to allow the handle to go straight up and not hit the tank. Some tanks had a welded-on extender, a short pipe with a 10×1 threaded hole. Some original valves had screw-on extenders. 

For this reason, most modern replacement petcocks do not have an up position. They have ←reserve  on↓ off→. That eliminates the need for an extender, a cost saving improvement.

2. For when the petcock passes through a hole in a body panel. The correct extender length lowers the petcock to the level needed to pass through a hole in a cover panel. So the petcock is hidden except for the handle, for a clean look.

3. For when something prevents installation. Sometimes part of the gas tank or frame prevents the screw-in petcock from screwing in. An example is Peugeot 102.

..part#  price  extension
C10.11   $13  11.0 mm = 10.0 mm extender + 1 mm seal washer
C

C10.12   $14  12.0 mm = 10.0 mm extender + 2 mm seal ring
C

C10.145 $13  14.5 mm = 13.5 mm extender + 1 mm seal washer
C

C10.155 $14  15.5 mm = 13.5 mm extender + 2 mm seal ring
C

C10.195 $14  19.5 mm = 13.5 mm extender + 6 mm cup seal
C10.195 $00  1980 Peugeot 102 SP (required)

C10.22   $26  22.0 mm = 10+10 extenders + 1+1 seal washers
C

C10.23   $27  23.0 mm = 10+10 extenders + 1+2 seal washers
C

C10.25   $13  25.0 mm = 24.0 extender + 1 mm seal washer
C

C10.26   $14  26.0 mm = 24.0 extender + 2 mm seal ring
C

C10.30   $14  30.0 mm = 24.0 extender + 6 mm cup seal
C

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seal Rings

C13 seal ring    10-14 x 6  w/metal cup 10.4-16-4.5  $2
continued soft, for light tightening, seals over a wide range

C14 seal 0-ring 10-15-2.5 w/metal cup 10.4-15-3.5  $2
continued soft, for light tightening, seals over a wide range

C15 seal ring   10.0 id, 13.7 od, 1.8-2.3 tall nylon $2.00
continued hard, can hold up to tightening pressure

C16 seal ring     7.5 id, 10.5 od, 1.7-2.1 tall nylon $2.00
continued hard, can hold up to tightening pressure

C17 seal ring     7.9 id, 10.4 od, 1.4-1.8 tall fiber  $2.00
continued hard, can hold up to tightening pressure

C18 seal ring     8.0 id, 11.7 od, 0.0-1.0 tall fiber  $2.00
continued hard, can hold up to tightening pressure

Many more of these are listed in Parts/Engine/Seals and O-Rings

 

Turnbuckle type nuts (forward and reverse thread)

These special nuts have “forward” right-hand thread on one side and “reverse” left-hand thread on the other side. The left thread side screws onto the valve, and the right thread side screws into the tank. This allows a screw-on valve to be tightened without the valve turning, and allows the valve to face any direction 360 degrees after tightening.

C20: 22 x 1 internal right to 22 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   $7 chrome

C21: 16 x 1 internal right to 16 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   $2

This turnbuckle type (LH and RH) nut is used on all 16mm female (internal-thread) moped gas valves.

C21a: 14 x 1 internal right to 14 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   ??

C22: 12 x 1 internal right to 12 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   $1

This turnbuckle type (LH and RH) nut is used on all 12mm female (internal-thread) moped gas valves. 

 

C23: 22 x 1 internal right to 16 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   N/A

This new nut was made improperly. The 16 x 1 left thread ID is to big (so it would strip off the soft alloy threads of the petcock when fully tightened) and the center-line is not straight (so the sealing surface of the petcock is at an angle to the sealing surface of the tank).

C24: 16 x 1 internal right to 12 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   N/A

There are two things to watch out for with these dual diameter dual thread nuts.

1. There are two ring-shape sealing surfaces on the petcock that must be close to the same height when the nut is fully tightened. The outer 

2. The ring-shape sealing surface on the gas tank must be wide enough to press against both of the petcock sealing surfaces.

 

Hoses and Parts

C29 clear nylon hose 3/16″ id 5/16″ od $1/foot fits moped spigots 5mm, no clamps

C30 soft aluminum tubing 1/8″ od $0.50/inch for making reserve tubes, longer or curved upward
continued easily bent, often must be ground slightly for press fit into hole

C31 “Y” connector for 3/16″  hose $3 for joining two fuel lines into one upward
continued for making a clear hose external fuel gauge, or for dual gas tanks

 

D. Gas Valve Inner Seal Disks

April 16, 2021

 

OMG 12x1 left front view

OMG front

OMG 12x1 L back

OMG rear

Inner Seal Discs

These rubber disks are hard and deteriorated after 30 years. The rest of the petcock is metal and lasts forever, or has round seal rings that are relatively easy to find.

Cross Referencing Hopes: The sizes, applications, and possible sourcing of these vital rubber disks is being studied. It is hoped that some of the common moped gas valves might use the same rubber seal as some kinds of Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha, or others. When that information becomes available, it will be posted here. Then anyone could order a seal disk for a small brand name bike from a big brand name parts supplier. 

Flipping: Old rubber inner seal disks get hard, shrink, and become deformed. Some can be flipped over to expose a fresh unused side.

Karkoma 16x1 spigot back with decomposed urethane disk

Karkoma 16×1 spigot back with decomposed disk

Vintage Karcoma: Left, an actual original 1970’s Karkoma (Germany) gas valve from a 1979 Kynast moped, with only 50 miles of use. 30+ years of sitting with old, rotten gasoline premix has completely clogged the passageways with hard tar, and decomposed the seal disk to where it broke when the valve was disassembled. Part of the seal disk shaped like a smile broke off and stuck to the movable plate with handle. Usually when these get sticky the handle ends up getting snapped off, in addition to the seal disk crumbling and the holes clogged.  This is the kind that uses a 3.3mm tall lip on the outer edge of the 2.0mm tall by 13.7mm diameter seal disk D4. Later 1980’s Karkoma valves did not have the lip. For those the D4 early seal disk lip must be carefully ground off. Even the last few new old stock 1970’s Karkoma seal disks, once clear orange, now cloudy gold, are brittle and crack and crumble easily in your fingers. Too bad. That is why disk D4 is N/A not available.

 

 

 

 

Seal disks D1 to D6

Seal disk D8

OMG seal disk 13.9 x 1.6 3 rings stick up from holes they fit inside valve holes

D9 OMG seal disk 13.9 x 1.6
3 rings stick up from holes
they fit inside valve holes
to keep disk from rotating

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 #  price  OD x thickness  style   Fuel Petcock Inner Seal Disks .
D6a none  13.4 x 2.3  3 holes shrunk aftermarket
D4x none  13.7 x 2.0  3.3 outer lip, 70’s Karkoma (Germany)
D7x none  13.7 x 2.0  3 holes no outer lip, 80’s Karkoma (Germany)
D9x none  13.9 x 1.6  3 holes 3 lips OMG (Italy) for most replacements
D5x none  14.0 x 2.0  3 ∅3.5 holes 70’s Paioli for valve A33
D5a none  14.9 x 3.2  3 holes shrunk unknown
D5b $5.00 14.5 x 2.1  5 holes Jawa
D2a none  15.8 x 2.8  4 holes very shrunk D2 from ’65 Honda CA200
D2b none  16.2 x 2.8  4 holes shrunk D2
D2c $22.0 16.3 x 3.0  4 holes D2 with the 4 holes widened
D2x $8.00 16.3 x 3.0  4 holes Honda 16957-ZE1-812 replaces 16955-011-010, 16955-028-004
D2x $0.00 16.3 x  3.0 4 holes fits 60’s-70’s Honda’s and Trac Eagle (Korea), Angel (Taiwan)
D8a $5.00 18.6 x 3.0  3 holes shrunk D8
D8x $12.0 18.8 x 3.1  3 holes blue Derbi (Spain) valve=18.5
D19 none  18.8 x 2.4  4 holes KL-18-6646 Kawasaki 43049-1017
D1x none  19.3 x 3.0  8 holes Honda 16115-001-004 60’s Cub
D10 $11.0 20.4 x 3.3  4 holes Honda 16955-268-020 another view
D10 $0.00 20.5 x 3.2  4 holes Indian (Taiwan) for valve A35
D3x $7.00 22.0 x 2.3  2+2 holes Piaggio 013836 vintage Vespa scooters
D11 none  22.3 x 3.5  4 holes General (Taiwan) for valve A28
D17 none  22.6 x 2.4  5 holes KL-18-6644 Kawasaki 11009-1188
D18 none  23.0 x 2.4  2 holes + slot KL-18-6645 Kawasaki 43049-1066
D16 none  28.5 x 2.4  5 holes KL-18-6643 Kawasaki 11009-1194
D21 none  00.0 x 0.0  Honda 17993
D22 none  00.0 x 0.0  Honda 16955-HA2-005  close up view
D24 none  00.0 x 0.0  Kawasaki 92065-094
D25 none  00.0 x 0.0  Kawasaki 92065-055
D26 none  00.0 x 0.0  Suzuki 44341-18450
D27 none  00.0 x 0.0  Suzuki 51455-010
D28 none  00.0 x 0.0  Yamaha 47X-24523-00
D29 none  00.0 x 0.0  Yamaha 137-24523-00

 

KL Supply seal disks scaled
1. Seal disks D16 to D19
2. D5 seal disk
3. Valve A33 with disk D5
4. D5 Paioli and D5b Jawa. The Jawa seal disk can substitute for Paioli if the holes are widened and the outer diameter is reduced

 

 

 

 

Gas Valves Menu (Petcocks)

April 16, 2021

Contents

1. Gas Valves listed by Type
2. Gas Valves listed by Application
3. Gas Valve Parts
3.   Inline Filters
3.   Seal Disks
3.   Extenders
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4. Gas Valve Information

1. Gas Valves listed by Type

Here 53 gas valves (petcocks) are listed by size and type.
Click on the part number to see photos, info and price.
All valves use 3/16″ (5mm) I.D. fuel hose, unless noted.

part#  thread  Screw-on Gas Valves
0A1  08-1.00 male spigot L or R push-pull
0A2  10-1.00 male spigot down
0A3  10-1.00 male spigot back
0A4  10-1.00 male spigot left
0A5  10-1.00 male spigot right
0A6  10-1.00 male spig. back medium shaft
0A7010-1.00 male spig. down 15 extender
0A8  10-1.00 male spig. down 20 extender
 A8b  10-1.00 male spigot left  20 extender
 A8c  10-1.00 male spig. right  20 extender
0A9  10-1.00 male spig. down 26 extender
A10  10-1.00 male spigot left  26 extender
A11  10-1.25 male spigot right
A12  12-1.00 male spigot down
A13  12-1.25 male spigot down
A13b12-1.25 male spigot left
A14  12-1.00 female spigot down
A15  12-1.00 female spigot back
A16  12-1.00 female spigot back clear trap
A17  12-1.00 female spigot left
A17b12-1.00 female spig left ext. round knob
A18  12-1.00 female spigot right
A19  12-1.00 female spigot back short shaft
A20  12-1.00 female spigot right long shaft
A20t 12-1.00 female spig. left medium shaft
A20b12-1.00 female spigot right short shaft
A21  12-1.00 female sp. right medium shaft
A22  12-1.00 female spigot right  long shaft
A23  12-1.00 female side mount Ciao
A24  12-1.00 female side mount Puch
A25  14-1.00 female spigot down
A26  14-1.00 female spigot left short reserve
A26b14-1.00 female spigot left
A27  14-1.00 female spigot right 1/4″ hose
A28  14-1.00 female spigot back
A29  14-1.00 female side mount Trac
A30  14-1.25 male spigot down 1/4″ hose
A30b14-1.50 male spigot back
A30c14-1.50 female spigot down
A31  16-1.00 female spigot down
A31b16-1.00 female spigot down detachable shaft
A32  16-1.00 female spigot back
A33  16-1.00 female side mount KTM USA
A34  16-1.00 female side mount KTM Euro
A35  16-1.50 female side mount Indian
A36  16-1.50 female spigot right
A37  16-1.50 female spigot down
A37b18-1.00 female spigot right
A38  22-1.00 female spigot down
A39  22-1.00 female sp. down medium shaft
A40  14-1.00 vacuum-automatic
A41  16-1.50 vacuum-automatic
part#  Clamp-on, Bolt-on, Remote Valves
0B1  13mm clamp-on spigot right
0B2  15mm clamp-on spigot down 1/4″ hose
0B5  12mm clamp-on spigot back
0B6  12mm clamp-on spigot right
0B7  12mm clamp-on spigot down
B13  bolt-on petcock side mount Angel
B15  remote petcock (in-line) Trac
B16  remote petcock (in-line) Suzuki

 

2. Gas Valves listed by Application

Here are 177 applications (what bikes take what valves).
Click on the part number to see photos, info and price.
These are US models (sold new in the USA), unless noted.

orig.  use
A15  A15 1980-82 AMF Roadmaster 130
0A8  0A8 1980-83 AMF Roadmaster 140, 141
A28  A26 1978-84 AMS (Her Chee) Sierra 50, Tahoe 50
A13  A13 1978-80 Angel (TYM) BP48, BP48-S (tube frame)
B13  B13 1977-78 Angel (TYM) AP48 (sheet metal frame)
0A8  0A2 1978-80 Arciero (Italtelai) Eagle, Hawk, Sea Gull
A00  0A4 1978-80 Arciero (Italtelai) top tank
A17  A17 1999-02 Avanti (Mont) Kobra, Mont, Autopower
A17  A17 1999-02 Avanti (Mont) Super Sport, Cosmo Stinger
orig.  use
0A3  0A3 1977-80 Baretta (Piccoli) Magnum, also A4 or A2
0A3  0A3 1977-79 Baretta (Piccoli) 22, 38 (regular tube frame)
A21  A21 1977-80 Baretta (Piccoli) 44, 45 (large mono-tube frame)
A14  A14 1976-80 Batavus VA (step thru), Bronco, Regency
A15  A15 1977-80 Batavus HS50, Starflite
0A2  0A2 1969-73 Benelli Buzzer, Hornet, Woodsbike, also A4
0A2  0A2 1967-77 Benelli Dynamo, Compact, Hurricane, also A4
0A2  0A2 1976-77 Benelli Blazer, Bobo, also A3 or A5
A0  A20b 1976-80 Benelli (SEIMM) G2, C2 (mono-tube frame)
A18  A18 1976-79 Bermuda (Flandria) vertical type mounted sideways
A37b A31b ’77-79 BETA L, SL, SL-5 
0A8  0A2 1977-80 Bianchi (Italtelai) Stardust (step-thru)
A00  0A4 1978-80 Bianchi (Italtelai) Satellite (top tank)
0A4  0A4 1976-80 Bianchi (Italtelai) Snark (step-thru)
A00  0A3 1971-73 Broncco (Fantic) Diablo
orig.  use
0A2  0A2 1977-79 Carabela (Acer-Mex) Motomatic
A14  A14 1977-80 Casal K196 (top tank)
A25  A25 1977-80 China motorized bicycle tear drop tank
0A4  0A4 1976-77 Cimatti Twin Sport (dual tanks, front tank)
A17  A17 1977-78 Cimatti Town Bike (single front tank)
A17  A17 1978-79 Cimatti Twin Sport (single front tank)
A18  A18 1976-79 Cimatti City Bike (with original 10-12 adapter)
0A2  0A2 1976-79 Cimatti City Bike (no adapter, difficult to install)
A28  A26 1978-80 Clinton (Jui Li) ST (step-thru) (also A28)
A17  A17 1979-80 Columbia Commuter, Open Road (mono tube frame)
A18  A18 1976-80 Columbia Commuter, Open Road (sheet fr.) also A15
A18  A18 1978-80 Columbia Imperial, Western Flyer, Yard Man (sheet)
A18  A18 1980-81 Columbia Medallion, Western Flyer Apache 3000 (t.t.)
0A2  0A2 1977-79 Concord (Fantic) XKE (mono-tube frame)
0A2  0A2 1979-80 Concord (Fantic) Freedom, Invader (can be 10 or 12)
A14  A14 1979-80 Concord (Fantic) Freedom, Invader (can be 10 or 12)
0A3  0A3 1977-79 Cosmo (Piccoli) Blazer 1, 2 (step thru)
0A3  0A3 1978-79 Cosmo (Piccoli) Colt 1, 2, 5 (top tank) also A4 or A2
0A3  0A3 1979-80 Cosmo (Malaguti) Colt 3,3A,4,4B (top tank) also A4, A2
A00  A00 1980-80 Cosmo (Testi) Amico (step thru enclosed body)
A17  A17 1999-02 Cosmo (Mont) Stinger, Avanti Supersport (top tank)
orig.  use
0A3  0A3 1976-79 DEMM Smily, Scout, also A4
0B2  0B2 1976-89 Derbi Variant SL, Variant SLE, TT, Variant Sport
A30  A30 1978-86 Derbi C5, RD50, Sport Laguna (top tanks)
0A4  0A4 1974-79 Di Blasi R2 folding mini-cycle (on right side)
0A5  0A5 1979-97 Di Blasi R7 folding mini-cycle (on left side)
0B5  0B5 1997-00 Di Blasi R7E folding mini-cycle (on left side)
0B6  0B6 2000-on Di Blasi R7E-V2 folding mini-cycle (on left)
orig.  use
A18  A18 1982-82 Eagle (Hercules) I, II (step thru) also A15
A18  A18 1982-82 Eagle (Hercules) III (top tank) also A15
orig.  use
0A3  0A3 1977-79 F. Morini (Lem) Chembol, also A4
A32  A32 1977-79 Flying Dutchman (Kynast) (tube frame)
A32  A32 1976-77 Flying Dutchman (Sparta) (sheet frame rear tank)
A31  A31 1977-80 Flying Dutchman (Sparta) (sheet frame front tank)
A33  A33 1977-80 Foxi (KTM) Deluxe, US models only
A31  A31 1977-80 Foxi (Sparta) GT, GT Sport, Flying Dutchman
A28  A26 1979-80 Foxi (Jui Li) 47 (top tank) also A25
0A3  0A3 1977-78 Foxi (Testi) Silver Foxi (mono-tube) also A2
orig.  use
0A5  0A5 1977-80 Gadabout (Moto BM) also A3
A15  A15 1973-78 Garelli Eureka, Sport, Gran Sport, Gulp
A15  A15 1978-80 Garelli Sport, Rally Sport also A17
A17  A17 1978-80 Garelli VIP 
A15  A16 1978-86 Garelli Super Sport XL, LTD, SSXL 
A15  A21 1984-85 Garelli Basic (needs long reserve tube) 
A19  A19 1980-86 Garelli Sport, Rally Sport, Rally SL
A15  A15 1983-86 Garelli Monza GT
A32  A32 1970-73 Gemini SST 80 mini trail
A28  A26 1979-85 General (Jui Li) 5-Star (top tank) also A25
A28  A26 1979-85 General (Jui Li) 5-Star ST (step-thru) also A28
0A3  0A3 1984-86 General (Moto Meteora) TE (step thru)
0A3  0A3 1977-80 Gitane (Testi) OKS, Sport (tube frame) also A4 or A2
0A3  0A3 1977-80 Gitane (Testi) CL200 Confort (sheet frame) also A4, A2
0A3  0A3 1977-80 Gitane (Testi) Cricket, Super Sport (mono-tube) also A2
A28  A26 1978-80 Grycner (Jui Li) and re-brands
orig.  use
0A2 0A2 1965-66 Harley Davidson M50 
A15  A16 90’s-00s Hero (Majestic) Pacer, Panther also A17
A17  A17 90’s-00s Hero (Majestic) Gizmo
A25  A25 1979-81 Honda NA50 Express II
A26  A26 1977-83 Honda NC50 Express
A36  A36 1982-83 Honda NC50I Express Iowa
A40  A40 1981-82 Honda NX50 Express SR  16950-187-671
A27  A27 1982-82 Honda MB5 (MB50)
A37  A37 1968-78 Honda Z50 Mini Trail, QA50, MR50
A16  A16 1977-83 Honda PA50 Hobbit
A18  A18 1966-75 Honda P50, PC50 Little Honda
orig.  use
A35  A36 1979-83 Indian (Merida/Mira) AMI-50 
A24  A24 1976-78 Intramotor-Gloria Blanco (sheet frame)
0A3  0A3 1976-79 Intramotor-Gloria Scout also A4 or A2
0A5  0A5 1976-76 Itom Automatic
orig.  use
A38  A38 1970-82 Jawa Babetta 28, 206, 207
A32  A32 1980-83 Jawa Supreme, Supreme II (top tank)
A32  A32 1984-90 Jawa 210 Sport, Alley Cat (top tank)
A15  A18 1978-79 JC Penney (Kromag) Pinto, Swinger
A28  A26 1978-80 Jui Li Honey 50 and compatibles
orig.  use
A14  A14 1995-05 Kinetic TFR, TFR-USA also A16
A18  A18 1987-93 KKM (Columbia remake) Mopet
A39  A39 1995-99 Korado (Manet) (mono tube frame)
A00  A14 1977-80 Kreidler Flory MP9, MP19 also A18
A33  A33 1977-80 KTM Foxi Deluxe, US models only
A34  A34 1974-90 KTM Foxi, Hobby, Euro models only
orig.  use
A28  A26 1977-80 Lazer (Jui Li) Sport 50, Sport 50 ST
A28  A26 2009-on Lazer (Bashan) SSR Lazer 5 (step thru)
orig.  use
0A3  0A2 1976-79 Maico (Moto Bimm) MPI also A3
0A3  0A3 1977-80 Malaguti Commuter (step thru) also A4
0A4  0A4 1978-79 Malaguti Pilot (top tank)
0A3  0A3 1976-77 Malanca Roxi
A28  A26 1979-80 Moprix (Pou Yen) Speed Bird (step thru)
A27  A25 1979-80 Moprix (Pou Yen) Moprix (top tank)
0A1  0A1 50’s-60s Motobecane/Motoconfort
0A2  0A2 1978-79 Motobecane Model 7
0A3  0A3 1971-80 Motobecane 40, 50, 50V, Moby, Traveler, Le Moped
A15  A15 1980-81 Motobecane Sebring (Italian top tank)
0A3  0A3 1977-79 Motobee (Testi) RS100 (step thru) also A4
0A3  0A3 1977-79 Motobimm (Bimotor) (step thru) 
A15  A15 1971-80 Moto Guzzi (SEIMM) Chiu, Robin (sheet frame)
A0  A20b 1977-80 Moto Guzzi (SEIMM) Robin (mono tube frame)
A15  A15 1985-90 Motomarina (Moto Meteora) Sebring (top tank)
0A3  0A3 1987-89 Motomarina (Moto Meteora) Raven (step thru)
0A3  0A3 1987-89 Motomarina (Moto Meteora) Tri-Power (3-wheeler)
0A2  0A2 1978-79 Motron Sprint, Medalist, Classic also A3, A5
0A8  0A2 1980-81 Motron Medalist, Classic also A3, A5
A18  A18 1979-82 Murray (all models) (step thru) also A14
orig.  use
0A5  0A5 1970’s    Negrini Big Boy (folding mini-cycle) also A3
0A3  0A2 1977-82 Negrini Harvard, Harvard II (step thru mono tube) also A4
0A3  0A3 1977-82 Negrini Leprotto, Gazelle, Gazelle II, III (step thru) also A4
0A2  0A3 1977-82 Negrini MX Sport, MX Sport II (top tank) also A3, A4
A00  0A6 1976-78 NVT Easy Rider ER, ER2, Scorpion (mono tube)
orig.  use
A27 A26a1978-80 Oakwood (Pou Yen) Catalina
A00  A31 1977-80 Odyssey (Solo) 32/1, 40/1, 40/2 (step thru)
orig.  use
0A7  0A2 1978-80 Pacer (Italtelai) Deluxe P14 (step-thru)
0A8  0A5 1978-80 Pacer (Italtelai) Sport P78 (mono-tube) also A4
0A0  0A4 1979-80 Pacer (Italtelai) Super Sport (top tank)
A8c   A8c 1980-80 Peugeot 102SP also A8
0A2  0A2 1976-83 Peugeot 103, 103SP, TSM
A12  A12 80’s-90s Peugeot Vogue (Euro model)
A32  A32 1978-86 Puch Magnum XK, MkII, II, Cobra 1, 2 (top tanks)
A24  A24 1969-86 Puch Maxi, Sport, Newport models (sheet frame)
A31  A31 1954-68 Puch MS50, VS50, VS50D (Euro models) (sheet frame)
A39  A39 1995-99 Puch (Manet) Korado (mono tube frame)
A24  A24 1989-92 Puch (Piaggio) Super Maxi (Euro model)
orig.  use
0A2  0A2 1977-79 Rizzato Califfo de Luxe, La Mopette (step thru)
orig.  use
A18  A18 1976-80 Sachs (Hercules) P1, Westlake, Sundancer (sheet frame)
A15  A15 1976-80 Sachs (Hercules) M4, Balboa , Suburban (tube frame) also A18
A15  A15 1980-83 Sachs (Hercules) Seville (sheet frame)
A18  A18 1980-83 Sachs (Hercules) Prima (step-thru)
A18  A18 1980-84 Sachs (Hercules) Prima G3 (top tank)
0A5  0A5 1975-78 Safari (MZV) Ridget, Super, Super Extra (mono tube) also A3
0A5  0A5 1978-80 Safari (MZV) Leader, Cobra (mono tube) also A3
0A3  0A3 1978-91 Safari (MZV) Automix, 300MT (top tanks) also A4, A2
0A3  0A3 1978-91 Safari (MZV) 400MT (has two petcocks, top tank and frame tank)
0A3  0A3 1978-91 Safari (MZV) Variomatic, Commando (top tanks) also A4, A2
0A0  0A6 1977-79 Scorpion (NVT) SC1, SC2, SC2X (mono tube)
A14  A14 1978-79 Sears (Kromag) Free Spirit (all models) also A15
A31  A31 1956-69 Sears (Puch) Allstate Mo-Ped (MS50)
A31  A31 1965-67 Sears (Puch) Allstate Sabre (VZ50) and others, see Puch
0A8  0A2 1978-80 Snark (Italtelai) Standard, Deluxe (step-thru)
0A8  0A4 1978-80 Snark (Italtelai) Satellite (top tank)
0A6  0A6 1970’s    Solex Tenor 8000 (Laura M54)
0A6  0A6 1974-75 Solex Tenor 8000 (Laura M56) 
A31  A31 1977-83 Sparta Foxi GT, Buddy, Lucky
A32  A32 1974-77 Sparta Lucky (rear tank)
A13  A13 1977-78 Speed Bird (TYM) BP48, BP48-S (tube frame)
A28  A26 1976-78 Sprinter (Tsing Hua) and compatibles
A30c A30c ’67-69 Suzuki B100P (120cc)
B16  B16 1980-91 Suzuki FA50 Shuttle
orig.  use
0A7  0A7 1987-94 Tomos Bullet TT, TTLX, Sprint TT
A17  A17 1974-95 Tomos Bullet A3, A35 (all step thru)
A10  A10 1992-95 Tomos Colibri (A35 engine)
A17  A17 1996-06 Tomos Sprint (A35 engine)
A17b A17b ’94-13 Tomos Targa LX, Tomos LX, LX (top tanks)
A20  A20 1996-06 Tomos Targa, Tomos, ST (A35 engine)
A18  A18 2007-13 Tomos Sprint, ST (A55 engine)
A18  A18 2001-13 Tomos Revival, Streetmate, Arrow
A18  A18 2017-18 Tomos Sprint, Sprint Classic, Racing TT
0B1  0B1 1998-02 Tomos TX50, Super Tom, MC36, MC50, MC80
B15  B15 1982-85 Trac (Kia) Clipper (rear tank remote petcock)
B15  B15 1983-85 Trac (Kia) Hawk, Sprint (top tank remote petcock)
A29  A26 1982-85 Trac (Kia) Eagle (step thru sheet frame)
B15  B15 1985-88 Trac (Daelim) Clipper, Escot (step thru rear tank)
A28  A26 1984-88 Trac (Daelim) Image, Sprint (top tank) also A25
B15  B15 1985-89 Trac (Daelim) Olympic, Liberty, Blitz (step thru remote)
A26  A26 1989-90 Trac (Daelim) Metro (step thru rear tank)
orig.  use
A18  A18 1977-79 Vespa (Piaggio) Bravo (metal tank)
0B1  0B1 1975-78 Vespa (Piaggio) Bravo (plastic tank)
A23  A23 1967-90 Vespa (Piaggio) Ciao, Ciao PX
A21  A21 1978-86 Vespa (Piaggio) Grande, Grande MX, Si
orig.  use
0A1  0A1 1957-64 Wards (Motobecane) Riverside Mo-Ped
0A2  0A2 1965-70 Wards (Benelli) Riverside 150D, 250D
A27  A25 1978-79 Wheel King Road Runner, Cuyler (mono tube)
A15  A15 1998-09 Whizzer (with reserve tube removed) also A14
orig.  use
A27  A25 1979-82 Yamaha QT50 Yamahopper
0A3  0A3 1977-79 Yankee Peddler (FMB), also A4 or A2

 

3. Gas Valve Parts

C. inline fuel filters, fittings, fuel hoses,
outer seal rings

D. inner seal disks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Find out more about the Gas Valves Menu (Petcocks) »

4. Keihin Parts for 1982-87 NQ50, NB50, C70

April 8, 2021

== carb ID#   S C O O T E R S   a n d   M O T O R C Y C L E S
  8. PA 29C-D  1984-87 Honda NQ50, NB50 xxxxx   30 mph TS
14. PB 15A-A  1982-83 Honda C70 Passport xxxxx  xxxxx  OHC

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scooters

8. Keihin PA 29C-B on #GK8 ‘84-85 Honda NQ50 Spree (US)
8. Keihin PA 29C-D on #GK8 1985   Honda NQ50 Spree (US)
8. Keihin PA 29D-A on #GK8 ‘84-85 Honda NQ50 Spree
8. Keihin PA 29D-B on #GK8 1985   Honda NQ50 Spree
8. Keihin PA 29H-A on #GE8,GN2 1983-85 Honda NB50 Aero 50

 

1983 Honda NB50M Aero

1985 Honda NQ50 Spree

#0 16100-GK8-673 Keihin PA 29C-D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#0 16100-GN2-601 Keihin PA 04H-A

#0 16100-GN2-633 Keihin PA 046-A

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#0 16100-GE8-013

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: The flange mount holes on ’84-87 Spree carburetors are spaced 35mm, center-to-center. That is different from ’74-78 PC50 32mm, ’82-83 NC50-AA 36mm, ’77-83 NC50 38mm, ’79-on Z50 32mm, and ’76-78 Z50 38mm.

These were zippy 50cc two-stroke automatic scooters that maxed out at 30mph to meet many US state’s moped laws. They have electric start so there is 12 volt battery power to operate an automatic electric choke. They also have a gas gauge and an automatic vacuum petcock on the gas tank. You don’t have know very much to operate one. They had a CVT variator that continuously changes the belt drive pulley size ratio, for very quick acceleration. 

Idle Mixture Screw: The idle mixture screw is an “air screw” that blocks off an air channel.

Main Jet: The main jet is a screw-in, recessed-type, M6-0.75 thread, size 68 (0.68mm).

Pilot Jet: The idle jet is not replaceable. It is inside the upper end of the brass tube, pressed into the main body, on the engine side of the main jet.

Float Seat: This carb does not have a replaceable float needle valve seat. The seat is part of the main body, and must be cleaned and polished with a spinning Q-tip.

Float: non-stirrup type white plastic 16013-147-004 see 6-4.0b, non-stirrup needle valve 16155-883-005 see 6-2.0b

Top Cap: M18 x 1 thread

The float bowl gasket in the illustration looks like the NC50-type, but it’s not. The actual gasket has an additional loop, for a vent and overflow. 

 

 

 quantity
o# ⇓⇓⇓⇓       Keihin PA (a)29C-B  (b)29C-D   (c)29D-A   (d)29D-B
o# abcd price  Honda part#x  Spree carburetors
o0 1000  N/A  16100-GK8-671
o0 1000  N/A  16100-GK8-672 PA29C-B ’84-85 NQ50, NQ50-A (US)
o0 0100  N/A  16100-GK8-673 PA29C-D      ’85 NQ50, NQ50-A (US)
o0 0010  N/A  16100-GK8-731
o0 0010  N/A  16100-GK8-732 PA29D-A ’84-85 NQ50-AA (US 25 mph)
o0 0001  N/A  16010-GK8-733 PA29D-B      ’85 NQ50-AA (US 25 mph)
o0 1000  N/A  16100-GK8-871 PA000-0      ’86 NQ50-A
o0 1000  N/A  16100-GK8-881 PA000-0      ’86 NQ50-AA
o# abcd price  Honda part#x  Spree carburetor parts
o1 1111  $21 16010-GE8-305 gasket solo-set   1b 1c 1g 1v 1w
o1 1111  $21 16010-GK8-003 gasket solo-set   1b 1c 1g 1v 1w
o1 1111  $22 16010-GE8-315 gasket multi-set 1b 1c 1g 1v 1w 1x
1b 1111  $$8 00000-000-000 top rubber washer 13 x 16.5 x 1
1c 1111  $$2 00000-000-000 intake o-ring 2 x 20 (24 od) 
1g 1111  $$2 00000-000-000 drain plug o-ring 1.5 x 4 (7 od)
1v 1111  $19 00000-000-000 float bowl gasket  2.5 x 1.5 with loop
1w1111    $2 00000-000-000 choke bystarter o-ring 1 x 16 (18 od)
1x 0000  N/A  00000-000-000 choke o-ring (some) 1 x 12 (14 od)
20 1100  N/A  99101-187-0680 jet 68   30mph versions
20 0011  N/A   99101-187-0650 jet 65   25mph version AA

 

 

 

 

 

o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-672
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-673 carburetor PA040-0 ’83-84 NB50M (US)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-003 carburetor PA040-0      ’84 NB50M (DK)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-013 carburetor PA040-0      ’84 NB50M (DK)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-601 carburetor PA040-0      ’84 NB50M (UK)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-611 carburetor PA040-0      ’84 NB50M (DE)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-621 carburetor PA040-0      ’84 NB50M (FR)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-671 carburetor PA040-0      ’84 NB50M (CA)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-601 carburetor PA040-0      ’85 NB50M (UK)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-602 carburetor PA04H-A      ’85 NB50M (UK)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-621 carburetor PA040-0      ’85 NB50M (FR)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-622 carburetor PA040-0      ’85 NB50M (FR)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-633 carburetor PA046-A      ’85 NB50M (US)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-671 carburetor PA040-0      ’85 NB50M (CA and US)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-672 carburetor PA040-0      ’85 NB50M (US)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-871 carburetor PA040-0      ’86 NB50
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-872 carburetor PA04P-A      ’86 NB50 (US)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-762 carburetor PA04W-A      ’87 NB50 (US)

 

 

 

 

 

Motorcycles

 

14. Keihin PB 15A-A on #GB4  1982-83 Honda C70 Passport (US)

Keihin PB15A-A

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: 36? mm hole spacing

   quantity
o# ⇓       Keihin PB (a)15A-A
o# a price  Honda part#x  description xxx specs
o0 1  N/A 16100-174-673 carburetor PB 15A-A 1980   C70  Passport (US)
o0 1  N/A 16100-174-772 carburetor PB 15A-A 1981   C70  Passport (US)
o0 1  N/A 16100-GB5-671 carburetor PB 15A-A ’82-83 C70 Passport (US)
o1 1  N/A 16010-GB4-013 gasket solo-set
o1 1  N/A 16010-141-305 gasket multi-set

 

 

 

5. Keihin Parts for 1968-09 Z50A, QA50, Z50R, XR50R, CRF50F

April 4, 2021

== carb ID# =========  M I N I   C Y C L E S  =========
  9. PA   Z502  1968-71 Honda Z50A Mini Trail xx 00 mph OHC
10. PA 655-A  1972-75 Honda Z50A Mini Trail xx oo mph OHC
10. PA 674-A  1970-75 Honda QA50 xxx oooo xx 00 mph OHV
11. PA 03A-A  1976-78 Honda Z50A Mini Trail xx oo mph OHC
11. PA 03C-A  1979-81 Honda Z50R
11. PA 03D-A  1982-85 Honda Z50R
11. PA 03F-B  1986-87 Honda Z50R
12. PA 03H-A  1988-91 Honda Z50R
12. PA 03H-B  1988-91 Honda Z50R
12. PA 03M-A  1992-99 Honda Z50R
12. PA 03N-A  1992-99 Honda Z50R
13. PA 42A-C  2000-03 Honda XR50R
13. PA 42A-C  2004-09 Honda CRF50F

 

 

 

 

 

9. Keihin Z50A on #045 1968-69 Honda Z50A Mini Trail up to Z50A-255950
9. Keihin Z502 on #045 1969-71 Honda Z50A Mini Trail after Z50A-255950 

Keihin Z50A, Z502

Keihin Z50A, Z502 on 1968-71 Z50A

1968-71 Z50A carb kit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: 32mm hole spacing, 2 x 18 (22 od) o-ring

Main Jet: This carb has a screw-in main jet size 50.

Pilot Jet: It also has a screw-in idle (pilot) jet size 38.

Float Seat: It also has a screw-in float needle seat, replaceable.

Float: no-stirrup metal-tip needle valve, metal swinging float

The Z50A and Z502 carbs are the same except for the needle jet #12 and rubber cable pipe #10.

 

 

10. Keihin 655-A on #130 1972-75 Honda Z50A Mini Trail
12. Keihin 674-A on #114 1970-72 Honda QA50
12. Keihin ceto and #129 1973-75 Honda QA50

Keihin 655-A on 1972-75 Z50A

1974-75 Z50A carb kit, missing the drain plug o-ring and jet pad disk.
1970-73 Z50A carb kit also had a float seat and a float seat washer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: 32mm hole spacing, no o-ring groove on carburetor. Instead the o-ring groove is on the intake manifold. Since the 2 x 18 (22 od) intake o-ring is not part of the carburetor, it is not in the Honda gasket set 16010-114-004, or the multi-app set 16010-114-305.

Main Jet: This carb has a “long” press-in jet, with a rubber pad disk under it.

Pilot Jet: The idle jet is not replaceable. It is inside the upper end of the brass tube, pressed into the main body, on the engine side of the main jet.

Float Seat early: The 1970-73 carburetor had a screw-in float needle seat, that was replaceable, like in the illustration.

Float Seat late: The 1974-75 carburetor did not have a replaceable float needle valve seat. The seat was part of the main body, and must be cleaned and polished with a spinning Q-tip.

Float: no-stirrup metal-tip needle valve, swinging float 16013-114-004

Top Cap: M18 x 1.0 thread

Drain screw: 1970-73 chamber set 16015-114-004 had a M4-0.7 thread drain screw with a 2 x 4 (8 od) o-ring. 1974-75 had a M6-0.75 thread drain screw with no o-ring. 1976-78 had a M6-1.0 thread drain screw with a 2 x 2.5 (6.5od) o-ring. 1979-later had a 1.5 x 4 (7od) drain screw o-ring.

 

Keihin 655-A, 674-A

   quantity
o# ⇓⇓    (a) 655-A  (b) 674-A
o# ab price  Honda part#x  description xxx specs
o0 10  N/A 16100-120-010 carburetor 655-A Ø?? ’72-75 Z50A
o0 01  N/A 16100-000-000 carburetor 674-A Ø?? ’70-75 QA50
o1 11  $24 16010-114-004 gasket solo set 1d 1e 1h 1n 1p 1r
o1 00  $24 16010-114-305 gasket multi set 1d 1e 1h 1n 1p 1r 1q
1d 11 0$2 16176-551-004 main jet o-ring 1 x 3 (5 od)
1e 11 $13 16197-063-004 jet support disk Ø7.5 x 1.8
1h 11 $$2 00000-000-000 intake o-ring 2 x 18 (22 od)
1n 11 0$3  16173-063-004 float bowl o-ring 1.5 x 40 (43 od)
1p 11 0$5 16171-044-004 top rubber washer 10 x 15 x 1
1r  11 0$5 16175-001-004 drain screw o-ring 2 x 4 (8od)

16010-114-004

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1972 Z50A drain screw

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

11. Keihin (10 mm) PA 03A-A on #130 1976-78 Honda Z50A Mini Trail
12. Keihin (11 mm) PA 03B-A on #181 1979-79 Honda Z50R up to 5022291
12. Keihin (11 mm) PA 03C-A on #181 1979-81 Honda Z50R after 5022291
12. Keihin (11 mm) PA 03D-A on #181 1982-85 Honda Z50R
12. Keihin (11 mm) PA 03F-B on #181 1986-87 Honda Z50R  

In 1979 the model name changed from Z50A to Z50R, and the name Mini Trail was dropped.

 

#0  16100-130-642
Keihin PA 03A-A
for 1976-78 Z50A
from cmsnl.com

#0  16100-165-004
Keihin PA 03B-A
for 1979 Z50R

#0 16100-165-014
Keihin PA 03C-A
for 1979-81 Z50R
from cmsnl.com

#0  16100-181-751
Keihin PA 03D-A
for 1982-85 Z50R

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

#1 16010-181-832
Keihin PA 03F-B
for ’86-87 Z50R
from cmsnl.com

1976-78 Z50A carb kit
D348 thick needle, #58 push-in jet. 
The drain screw and jet support pad are missing.

1979-81 Z50R carb kit
D117 thin needle, #58 screw-in jet. Left to right: drain screw, needle jet (emulsion tube), idle air screw, idle speed screw, float needle

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: 38 mm hole spacing 1976-78.  32 mm hole spacing 1979-87.

Pilot Jet: The idle jet is not replaceable. It is inside the upper end of the brass tube, pressed into the main body, on the engine side of the main jet.

Main Jet:  For some reason in 1979 Honda wanted to make their jets tamper-proof. It’s funny that they went from one extreme to the other, from jets that fall out too easy, to jets that never come out. Both the NC50 and the Z50 changed to “fixed” jets (not replaceable) in late 1978 and 1979. After 1981 the jet was a screw-in, thankfully, like in the illustration

Float Seat: This carb does not have a replaceable float needle valve seat. The seat is part of the main body, and must be cleaned and polished with a spinning Q-tip.

Carb Kit: Beware of low-cost carburetor kits. In the kit at the right several things are wrong or made badly. 1) it is missing the press-in jet pad disk, 2) the jet o-ring was too big to allow the jet to press in. You can see it seems big in the photo. It was size 1.5 x 4 instead of 1 x 3, 3) the float needle was longer than stock, and the wire stirrup was bent badly in two ways. The throttle (jet) needle was D117 thin instead of D348 thick.

Float: In 1979 the float and float needle changed, from stirrup-type needle valve with black foam float, to no-stirrup needle valve 16155-883-005 with white plastic float 16013-147-004. Like before, the float needle has a rubber cone upper tip and a spring-loaded lower tip. 

Float Bowl: The 1979-later float bowl no longer has a press-in jet support pad disk 7.5 x 1.8mm.

16010-081-004

#1  16010-143-305

#1  16010-081-014

#1 16010-165-621

#1 16010-181-305

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PA 03A, 03B, 03C, 03D, 03F

   quantity
o# ⇓⇓⇓⇓    PA(a)03A-A  (b)03B-A  (c)03C-A  (d)03D-A  (e)03F-B
o# abcde price  Honda part#x  description xxx specs
o0 1o0oo  N/A 16100-130-641 use 16100-130-642
o0 1o0o0  N/A 16100-130-642 carburetor PA 03A-A Ø10 x 38 ’76-78 Z50A
o0 o1000  N/A 16100-165-004 carburetor PA 03B-A Ø11 x 32 ’79-79 Z50R
o0 o0100  N/A 16100-165-014 carburetor PA 03C-A Ø11 x 32 ’79-81 Z50R
o0 oo010  N/A 16100-181-751 carburetor PA 03D-A Ø11 x 32 ’82-85 Z50R
o0 00001  N/A 16100-181-830  16100-181-831 use 16100-181-832
o0 00001  N/A 16100-181-832 carburetor PA 03F-B Ø11 x 32 ’86-87 Z50R
o1 1o000 $28 16010-081-004 gasket solo-set   1a o d e f o h i
o1 10000 $28 16010-143-305 gasket multi-set 1a c d e f o h i
o1 01100 $22 16010-081-014 gasket solo-set   1a o o o f g h
o1 00011 $23 16010-165-621 gasket solo-set   oo o o o f g h o l
o1 01111 $23 16010-181-305 gasket multi-set 1a o o o f g h o l
1a 1o000 $$3 00000-000-000 top rubber washer 10 x 18 x 1
1d 1o0o0 0$2 16176-551-004 main jet o-ring 1 x 3 (5 od)
1e 10000 $13 16197-063-004 jet support pad disk Ø7.5 x 1.8 
1f  11111 $18 00000-000-000 float bowl gasket  Ø1.5 NC50-type
1g o1111 $$2 00000-000-000 drain screw o-ring 1.5 x 4 (7 od)
1h 11011 $$2 00000-000-000 intake o-ring 2 x 18 (22 od)
1i  10000 0$2 16175-260-004 drain screw o-ring 2 x 2.5 (6.5 od)
1l  01111 0$4 16110-181-831 top rubber washer 13 x 19 x 1
02 10000  N/A 16012-130-640 needle set 03AA
02 010o0  N/A 16012-165-014 needle set 03BA use 16012-181-831 
02 00111  N/A 16012-181-831 needle set 03CA, 03DA, 03FB
03 1o000  N/A 16013-099-691 use 16013-143-620
o3 1o000  $46 16013-143-620 float set 3a oo 3c 3d black stirrup
o3 o1111 $28 16013-147-004 float set oo 3b 3c 3d white regular
3a 1o000  N/A 00000-000-000 float bare, solid black foam stirrup
3b o1111 $21 00000-000-000 float bare hollow white plastic regular
3c 11111 $$4 00000-000-000 hinge pin substitute Ø2 x 18.5
3d 11111 $$3 0-93600-04006 hinge screw M4x6 sunk phillips
o4 11100  N/A 16014-130-640 top set with pipe 4a 1a M18-1.0
o4 00011  N/A 16014-GB1-912 top set with pipe 4a 1l M20-1.0
05 1o000  N/A 16015-130-640 chamber set 5a 1e 1f 5b 1g
05 o1110  N/A 16015-099-691 chamber set 5a oo 1f 5b 1g
05 o???1  N/A 16015-130-641 use 16015-130-641
05 o???1  N/A 16015-165-621 chamber set 5a oo 1f 5b 1g
6a ????1  N/A 16016-165-621 use 16016-165-505
6a ????1  N/A 16016-165-505 idle air screw set
6b ????1  N/A 16208-GC8-004 idle speed screw set
07 ?????  N/A  slide set
09 ?????  N/A  rubber cable pipe cover
10 1o0oo  N/A 16011-143-620 use 16011-881-741
10 1o0oo N/A 16011-881-741 float needle valve  stirrup
10 o1111 $22 16155-883-005 float needle valve regular
11 22222 0$1 93892-04012-08 screw & washer M4x12 pan phillips
14 10000 $16 99201-081-0580 main jet push-in #58 0.0228″
14 01100  N/A fixed needle jet and main jet pressed in 0.0228″
14 00011 0$7 99101-187-0580 main jet screw-in #58 0.0228″
18 11111  N/A (not sold separately) idle jet press-in tube 0.015″ pinhole

 

12. Keihin PA 03H-A on #GW8 1988-88 Honda Z50R up to JS900485
15. Keihin PA 03H-B on #GW8 1988-91 Honda Z50R after JS900485
15. Keihin PA 03M-A on #GW8 1992-93  Honda Z50R
15. Keihin PA 03N-A on #GW8 1994-99  Honda Z50R

 

#0 16100-GW8-682 Keihin PA 03M-A

#0 16100-GW8-305  Keihin PA 03N-A  from cmsnl.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: 32mm hole spacing

Main Jet: screw-in #58, M6-0.75

Float: no-stirrup type white plastic 16013-147-004, needle valve 16155-883-005

Top Cap: M20-1.0 thread

Idle Mixture Screw: For the entire Z50A and Z50R year range 1968 to 1999, the idle mixture screw was an air type, not a fuel type. An idle air screw blocks an air tunnel, so tighter is less air (richer). An idle fuel screw blocks off a fuel tunnel. So tighter is less fuel (leaner). 

1992-98 Z59R carb kit

#1  16010-181-831
for PA 03H 03M 03N

#1  16010-181-305
for PA 03H 03M 03N

#5  16016-GW8-672
This idle air screw looks
like an idle fuel screw.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Keihin PA 03H-A, PA 03H-B, PA 03M-A, PA 03N-A

   quantity
o# ⇓⇓⇓⇓  Keihin PA (a)03H-A  (b)03H-B  (c)03M-A (d)03N-A
o# abcd price   Honda part#x   description xxx specs
o0 1000  N/A 16100-GW8-671 16100-GW8-672 carburetor PA 03H-A 1988 Z50R up to JS900485
o0 0100  N/A 00000-000-000  16100-GW8-673 carburetor PA 03H-B ’88-91 Z50R mix screw changed
o0 0010  N/A  -680  -681 000  16100-GW8-682 carburetor PA 03M-A ’92-93 Z50R
o0 0001  N/A  -780  -791 000  16100-GW8-792 carburetor PA 03N-A ’94-99 Z50R
o0 1111  N/A 00000-000-000  16100-GW8-305 multi-carb  PA 03N-A replacement
o1 1111 $23 16010-181-831  gasket solo-set   o0 1f 1g 1h 1l
o1 1111 $23 16010-181-305  gasket multi-set 1a 1f 1g 1h 1l
1f  1111 $18 00000-000-000  float bowl gasket  Ø1.5 NC50-type
1g 1111 $$2 00000-000-000  drain plug o-ring 1.5 x 4 (7 od)
1h 1111 $$2 00000-000-000  intake o-ring 2 x 18 (22 od)
1l   1111 0$4 16110-181-831  top rubber washer 13 x 19 x 1
02 needle set
03 float set
04 chamber set
05 idle air screw set
06 slide set
07 idle speed screw set
09 top set
10 float needle
11 float bowl screw
12 drain hose
13 drain hose clamp
14 main jet

 

 

13. Keihin PA 42A-C on #GEL  2000-03 Honda XR50R
16. Keihin PA 42A-A on #GEL  2000-03 Honda XR50R
16. Keihin PA 42A-A on #GEL  2004-09 Honda CRF50F

In 2000 the Z50R was replaced by the XR50R. The carburetor remained mostly the same.

 

Links to Images:
2000 Honda XR50R carburetor PA42A-C
2008 Honda CRF50F carburetor  The gasket for this was in use for over 34 years!

This carburetor looks the same as the previous Z50R ones, except the flange is thicker and has square corners, not rounded.

Flange Mount: 32mm hole spacing, thicker with square corners

Chinese re-makes of this carburetor are common on the internet, at incredibly low prices. Read several reviews before buying one. Try to re-use the original Keihin.

In 2004 the XR50R was replaced by the CRF50F. The carburetor remained mostly the same.

Service: Here is a good article about how to remove and clean the non-replaceable idle (pilot) jet.

https://thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/1047667-clogged-pilot-jet-on-a-crf50-success/

The CRF50F idle jet in that article did not crush when gripped lightly with a vise grip pliers. But some pressed-in idle jets have thin walls, or have a tighter fit that needs heavy clamping. Those require a close-fitting drill bit or solid wire, be placed in the hole first, to prevent crushing the tube with the vise grips. It’s a good idea to do that always. 

 

 

 

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