Myrons Mopeds

Here are switches that are, or can be, integrated or built into the hand controls.

Contents:

1. 36 mm hole spacing by CEV, Aprilia, Grabor
     for Domino “diamond” controls or direct mount

2. 30 mm hole spacing by CEV
     for Domino “square” controls

3. late ’80’s integrated in English, by CEV, Daelim
     for Domino “80’s black” controls

4. ’91-06 integrated with icons, by HR
    for HR controls on Tomos

5. ’01-07 integrated with icons, by Domino
     for Domino controls on Tomos

6. ’08-17 integrated with icons, by TBS
     for TBS controls on Tomos

 

Integrated controls means the electrical buttons and switches are part of the twist throttle and hand levers, rather than separate. The purpose of integrated controls is to locate the switches close to the operator’s thumbs, for increased safety and convenience, and to reduce cost and save space on the handlebar. Motorcycles had this first, because they have more buttons, generally. While the European switches below can be replaced separately from the controls, with most Taiwan and Japanese mopeds you had to buy the whole control assembly to get new switches and buttons. More on that will be in the Taiwan Mopeds parts department.

 

 

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1. 36 mm hole spacing by CEV, Aprilia, Grabor

 

 
Switches in this section can fit on Domino diamond controls.

They can also be mounted directly to the handlebar by drilling holes and using a diamond direct mount.

 

 

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1.1 CEV 8033 Turn/Horn Switch – L or R 
part#   price    parts list 
8033   none   switch, no mount, set screws

 

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1.2 CEV 8042 Lights/Horn Switch – L or R
part#   price    parts list
8042   none   switch with mount, set screws
M4x16 $0.50 screw M4 x 16 phillips

 

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1.3 CEV 8109 Run/Lights/Horn Switch – L or R
part#     price    parts list  
8109      none  switch, 36mm hole spacing, set screws
Omount none  oval mount, use diamond direct mount
Oscrew  $2.00  M4-0.7 x 28 sunk slot screw
This is on ’68 Harley Davidson MS65 Sport.

 

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1.4 Garelli 8109GR Run Switch – R or L
says “ENGINE STOP  GARELLI  RUN OFF”
part#     price    parts list  
8109GR none  switch only, 36mm hole spacing

photo 2. For ’77-80 Garelli w/Domino “Diamond” controls, Garelli 506961.6.300

The pivot post inside breaks if the rider’s knee hits it. Then the “clicker” escapes. Replace the base with a CEV 8176. 

 

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1.5 Garelli 8109GL Lights/Horn Switch – L or R
says “LIGHTS   GARELLI   ON  OFF”
part#     price    parts list
8109GL none  switch only, 36mm hole spacing

For ’77-80 Garelli w/Domino “Diamond” controls, Garelli 507991.6.400

The pivot post inside breaks if the rider’s knee hits it. Then the “clicker” escapes. Replace the base with a CEV 8176. 

 

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1.6 CEV 188? Turn Switch – R or L 
says “CEV 188 SAE GB 55″
part#   price    parts list   Piaggio 144474
?????     $13.0 switch, no mount, set screws
Dscrew $0.70 screw M4 x 14 phillips
05020? $5.00 direct mount

Switch can be for lights ON-OFF-ON or LO-OFF-HI.

 

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1.7 CEV 8176 Turn/Horn Switch – L or R
says “horn  L turn R”, normally open horn button
part#    price    parts list   Piaggio 147304
8176    $16.0 switch, no mount, set screws
Dscrew $0.70 screw M4 x 14 phillips
05020? $5.00 direct mount

Switch can be for lights/horn ON-OFF-ON or LO-OFF-HI.
Button can be for engine stop.

 

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1.8 CEV 8192 Horn or Run Switch – R or L 
part#    price    parts list   Piaggio 307264
8192     $25.0 switch, no mount

Original on ’78-79 Vespa Grande with blinkers

 

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1.9 Grabor 8192G Horn Switch – L or R
says “Grabor“
part#    price    parts list  
8192G  none  switch, without mount
Dscrew $0.70 screw M4 x 14 phillips

Original on ’80-83 Vespa Grande with blinkers.

 

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1.10 CEV 8193 Lights/Horn Switch – L or R
says “CEV Lights ON OFF”
part#    price    parts list
8193      N/A  Switch, without mount, with solder connections
M4x14 $0.70 screw M4 x 14 phillips

The wires must to be soldered on skillfully. Use CEV 8176 above as a substitute.

 

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By the end of the 1970’s, the shape of pretty much everything from toasters to automobiles, that used to be rounded, was straight. Many things that were metal became plastic. On Garelli mopeds, the all curved Garelli “Oval Chrome” switch shape was modernized to CEV “Diamond Plastic”, with the same 36mm bolt spacing. The new design was much stronger and more resistant to breaking, because the sliding switch had a large platform that almost touches the base. The newer “knobs” are low and wide, not tall and thin. 

1.11 CEV 8194 Engine Stop Switch – R or L
says “CEV Engine Stop RUN OFF”
part#    price    parts list 
8194    none  Switch, without mount, with solder connections
M4x14 Dscrew $0.70 screw M4 x 14 phillips

Was sold new without wires, which had to be soldered on skillfully.

 

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1.12 Domino D-25 Block-Off Plate – L or R
says “Domino”
part#    price    parts list
D-25    $3.00 plate, 36mm holes, for when there is no switch
M4x10 $1.20 phillips screw M4 x 10, shorter for a plate

 

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1.13 Aprilia Run/Lights/Horn Switch – L or R
part#    price    parts list 
A-1.13  none  switch with clamp, M4 screws, 36 mm spacing

Clamps across the handlebar.
Original on ’68 Innocenti Lambretino and others.

 

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1.14 Aprilia Diamond Chrome – R or L
part#    price    parts list 
A-1.14  none  Complete switch with clamp
Aprilia “Diamond Chrome” switches are  mounted at 90 degrees
to the handlebar, while CEV “Diamond Chrome”
switches are  mounted in line with the handlebar.  

 

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1.15 CEV ????  Diamond Clamp-On Mount – L or R 
part#     price    parts list  
40488? none   switch mount, clamp-on
For mounting CEV or Aprilia “Diamond”
switches (36 mm M4 holes) onto a 22 mm bar.

 

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1.16 CEV ????  Diamond Direct Mount – L or R 
part#    price    parts list  
05020? $4.00 switch mount bare, 36 mm hole spacing

For CEV or Aprilia “Diamond” switches
Drill small 1/16″ holes in handlebar 36mm (1 7/16″) apart.
Use sheet metal screws, appropriate size and length. 

 

 

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2. 30 mm hole spacing by CEV, Grabor

 
Switches in this section can fit on Domino square controls.

 

 

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2.1 CEV 8191 Turn/Run Switch – R or L
says “CEV 169 OFF  ENGINE STOP  L  TURN  R”
part#    price    parts list  Piaggio 307263
8191    $16.0 switch only, 30mm hole spacing
8191m $15.0 rubber mount

photo 2. CEV 8191 for Vespa Grande, no rubber mount. The wire notch is in the Domino control.

photo 3. CEV 8191 with rubber mount for ’79-83 Tomos Silver Bullet. The wires come out of the notch in the rubber base.

 

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2.2 Grabor Run Switch – R or L
says “Grabor  ENGINE STOP  OFF RUN”
part#    price    parts list  Piaggio 189833
Gr-2.2  none  switch only, 30mm hole spacing

 

 

 

 

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3. late ’80’s plastic in English, by CEV, Daelim
     1980’s with black horn button

There were not many US-model mopeds in the late 1980’s, other than Derbi, Garelli, Jawa, Tomos, Trac (Daelim), pretty much. Except for Jawa, they all used late 1980’s black Domino controls with fully integrated switches.

 

      
3.1 Daelim Engine Stop switch – right side
says “ENG. STOP   OFF  RUN”
part#    price    parts list
23232        $35   new, switch only
Comes with wires (black male bullet, green male bullet)

Original on 1985-88 Trac Clipper, Olympic, Hawk (no turn signals, pedals), and 1986-89  Trac Escot,  Liberty,  Image  (turn signals, kickstart)

Fits any “late 1980’s – 90’s Domino” right control.

 

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3.2 Daelim Lights/Horn switch – left side
says “⊂≡  ON  OFF   HORN”
part#    price    parts list
23233  $40  used, tested good, switch only
Comes with wires (red bullet, yellow bullet, grey bullet)

Original on 1985-88 Trac Clipper, Olympic, Hawk (no turn signals, pedals)

Fits any “late 1980’s – 90’s Domino” left control.

  

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3.3 Daelim Lights/Turn/Horn switch – left side
says “⊂≡  ON  OFF    HORN    ⇐  TURN  ⇒”
part#    price    parts list
23234   none  switch only,
Comes with wires (red,yellow,grey,orange,lt blu, lt grn, all male bullet)

Original on 1986-89  Trac Escot,  Liberty,  Image  (turn signals, kickstart) Fits any “late 1980’s – 90’s Domino” left control.

This is the first use of icons on moped switches – 1985.

 

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3.4 CEV 8246.01   lights, engine stop – right side
says “LIGHTS  ON OFF   ENGINE STOP  STOP RUN”
part#    price    parts list
222.427 none   switch only
M3 x 8   $2.00 bottom screw

Original on 1986-91 Tomos Bullet, Bullet TT, Golden Bullet, Golden Bullet TTLX
Original on 1986-89 Derbi Variant Sport, others. Bottom screw $2, size M3 x 8
Was sold new without wires, which had to be soldered on skillfully.

The red switch button breaks, usually from the riders knee hitting it.

 

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3.5 CEV 8230.07  Horn only – left side
says “HORN    “
part#    price    parts list
222.426     N/A   Switch only
M3 x 8   $2.00 bottom screw
Original on 1986-91 Tomos Bullet, Bullet TT (round head light, no turn signals)

 

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3.6 CEV 8232.08 Turn/Horn switch – left side
says “HORN   L  TURN  R  CEV 300“
part#    price    parts list
222.429      $35   Switch only
M3 x 8   $2.00 bottom screw
Original on 1986-91 Golden Bullet, Golden Bullet TTLX (round head light, turn signals)
At right, it’s European all-icon cousin. Over there they signal by momentarily flashing their high beam, rather than by horn. So their buttons have different functions. By 1984-85 Europe already had all-icon switches, a few years before the USA allowed them. 

 

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3.7 CEV 8232 Turn/Hi-Lo/Horn switch – left side
says “HI  LO  P   HORN   L  TURN  R  CEV 300“
part#    price    parts list
34040        N/A   Switch only
M3 x 8   $2.00 bottom screw

Original on 1987-90 Trac DH100 Super Hawk
Original on many late 80’s bikes with turn signals and hi-lo head light.
Was sold new without wires, which had to be soldered on skillfully.

 

 

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4. ’91-06 plastic with icons, by HR
     1990’s with blue horn button

Icons appeared first on US mopeds in 1985 on Trac/Daelim, then in 1987 on Derbi Variant Sport and DS50. In the 1980’s the world somehow realized it made more economic sense for motorcycle switches to use symbols, with one version for all, rather than using words and having to make many language versions. By the 1990’s the US had switched to icons, at the time when Tomos and Jawa were the only European mopeds remaining. There were several “remakes”: Kinetic (India) is like Vespa/Piaggio, Manet (Slovakia) is like Puch, Hero (India) is like Puch, and others. Some of those copied “80’s – 90’s Domino” controls. These HR (Hidria Rotomatika) switches below do not interchange with Domino. The HR switches are slightly smaller than Domino, and their top peg is smaller. HR switches must go on HR controls, aka “1992-2007 Tomos” controls. 

 

 

4.1 HR   Lights/engine stop switch – right side
227002        $40   Switch only, all icons

Original on 1992-2007 Tomos (A35 and A55) Sprint, Targa, ST, LX
Was sold new without wires, which had to be soldered on skillfully.

Look just below the black light switch to see the circled HR logo (Hidria Rotomatica).

 

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4.2 HR Hi-Lo/Horn/Engine stop – left side
???        N/A   Switch only, all icons

Not for US models. For countries that allow engine stop to be on the left.
Was sold new without wires, which had to be soldered on skillfully.

 

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4.3 HR Hi-Lo, horn switch – left side
227595        $40   Switch only, all icons

Original on 1993-07 Tomos Sprint, 1993-94 Sprint TT (no turn signals)
Was sold new without wires, which had to be soldered on skillfully.

Many switch problems are from “cold” solder joints. The cure is re-solder.

 

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4.4 HR  Hi-Lo/Turn/Horn switch – left side
227001        none available   Switch only, all icons

Original on 1992-07 Tomos A35 Bullet, Targa, ST, LX (all with turn signals)
Was sold new without wires, which had to be soldered on skillfully.

Many switch problems are from “cold” solder joints. The cure is re-solder.

 

 

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5. ’01-07 plastic with icons, by Domino
     2000’s with yellow horn button

 Put away that soldering iron. The new century brings wires pre-soldered by the factory, with a convenient multi-pin plug. 

 

5.1 Domino Engine stop, start – right side
232987        $50   Switch only, all icons, made in Italy by Domino

Original on Tomos 2002-07 Revival, 2005-07 Streetmate, 2005 Arrow
For mopeds, scooters and motorcycles with electric start.
Was sold new with wires soldered on, with a single multi-pin plug.

 

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5.2 Domino hi/lo, turn, horn – left side
232788        $50   Switch only, all icons, made in Italy by Domino

Original on Tomos 2002-07 Revival, 2005-07 Streetmate, 2005 Arrow
For mopeds, scooters and motorcycles with hi/lo and turn signals.
Was sold new with wires soldered on, with a single multi-pin plug.

 

 

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6. ’08-17 plastic with icons, by TBS
     2010’s with red horn button

 High quality long lasting switches and controls at half the price of Italian. They’re as good, or better.

 

 

6.1 TBS engine stop, start – right side
237129        $25   Switch only, all icons

Original on Tomos 2008-13 all models.
For mopeds and motorcycles with electric start.
Sold new with wires and a single multi-pin plug.

Fits any “2000’s Domino” right control, or compatible.
The TBS plug is different from Domino. See above and Wirings.

 

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6.2 TBS  Hi/lo/Turn/Horn – left side
837130        $30   Switch only, all icons

Original on Tomos 2008-13 all models.
For mopeds and cycles with hi/lo and turn.
Sold new with wires and a single multi-pin plug.

Fits any “2000’s Domino” left control, or compatible.
The TBS plug is different from Domino. See above and Wirings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are switches that clamp to the handlebar, separate from the hand controls.

Contents:

1. Generic Clamp-On
2. 50’s-60’s Clamp-On
3. 60’s-70’s Clamp-On
4. 70’s-80’s Clamp-On 

 

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1. Generic Clamp-On Switches

 

1.1 Engine Stop Button – R or L
part#       price    parts list 
609-1451 $10  momentary, press to “kill” engine
(can also be used as a horn button)  
This is a low cost substitute for the original engine stop switch.
Pushing the button grounds the ignition wire, stopping the engine.

 

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1.2 Engine Stop Button – R or L
part#        price    parts list 
TLswitch $10  momentary contact, press to “kill” engine
(can also be used as a horn button) 
Pushing the button grounds the ignition wire, stopping the engine.

 

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1.3 Lights/Horn/Run – L or R side
part#       price    parts list  
8052g    $18   chrome, 2 buttons + 3-way toggle
8052gB  $18   black, same

Can also be turn L-off-R, horn, and engine stop

 

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1.4 Turn Signal Switch – L or R side
part#       price    parts list 
029708  $10   chrome, with wires

 

 

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2. 50’s – 60’s Clamp-On Switches
that do not say what they do

These are shown for information purposes, not for sale.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3. 60’s – 70’s Clamp-On Switches
that do not say what they do

These switches were used worldwide.
They are for any language because they have no words.

 

3.1 CEV 8041 Lights/Horn Switch – left
part#    price    parts list 
8041.1  $38  Switch assembly with set screw connections
8041.c  none Chrome cap, says “CEV Mod. 8041”
8041.m $25  clamp assy new, with original screw and nut
8041.m $15  clamp assy used, with substitute screw and nut

 

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3.2 CEV 8052 Lights/Horn/Run Switch – left
part#     price    parts list 
8052.1  none  chrome, 2-buttons plus 3-way toggle
base says 9432

 

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3.3 CEV 8053 Turn Switch – left side
part#    price    parts list 
8053.1  none  Switch with set screws, says “CEV”

8053.s  $45  substitute made from 8041 & 8040.3
photo left: 8041 switch assy, right: 8040.3 base top
photo 8040.3 bottom view before cutting jumper
photo top: original cap & base, bottom: modified
photo R: orig CEV 8041 cap, L: button cut & glued

 

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3.4 Merit 60’s Rounded chrome – left side
Lights and horn
$19  says “MW Germany” inside, with clamp

Merit 60’s Rounded chrome
All-In-One – left side
$16  Cap only

 

Merit 60’s Rounded chrome
Engine Stop – right side
$16  Cap only  says ON  OFF  OFF

 

 

 

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4. 70’s – 80’s Clamp-On Switches
that say what they do, in English

Mopeds (motorized bicycles) had less strict equipment laws than motorcycles did, and still do. They don’t need to have turn signals, or a permanently-on head light. The US DOT equipment laws dictate what the switches do, what they say and where they go. Engine stop always goes on right, reachable by right thumb. Lights and horn are reachable by left thumb. After 1972 US DOT compliant switches had English words. After the mid-80’s US DOT allowed international icons.

 

 

 

 

 

4.1 CEV 8177 Round Chrome –  Right Side
Engine stop 
8177 000  $74.0 Switch with solder connections
8177.5 00 $80  Switch with set screw connections
8177.cap  $16  cap, says ENGINE STOP  OFF RUN
8177.m 0  $25  clamp assy new, with original screw and nut
8177.m 0  $15  clamp assy used, with substitute screw and nut

 

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4.2 CEV 8040 Round Chrome – Left Side
Lights and horn  Piaggio 156645
8040 $32.0 Switch with solder connections
8040.5 $35  Switch with set screw connections
8040.cap $15  cap, says LIGHTS  LO HORN
8040.m $25  clamp assy new, with original screw and nut
8040.m $15  clamp assy used, with substitute screw and nut

 

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4.3 Merit 342 Rounded chrome – Right side
Engine stop
342 $34.0 replacement switch, Puch 349.1.53.830.0
342.b $19  replacement body only, with handle
342.cap $15  cap, says ENGINE STOP  RUN OFF
342.clamp $4  4-piece clamp with M4x12 screw
Repair broken knob by sticking a red hot small nail straight in.
It freezes in strong. Cover the nail with tape and shrink wrap.

 

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4.4 Merit 343 Rectangular Chrome – Left side
Lights, horn momentary closed, normally open horn button
343 $43  replacement for Puch 349.2.53.817.0 (pre-1977)
343.cap $19  Chrome cap with horn button – see #2 below
343.clamp $4  4-piece clamp with M4x12 screw
When the knob breaks, just leave the lights always on.
On a pre-1977 Puch, with violet and yellow horn wires,
if you remove this switch and unplug the horn the engine will still run.

 

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4.5 Merit 343Z Rounded Chrome – Left side
Lights, horn momentary open, normally closed horn button
343Z  none  replacement for Puch 349.3.53.817.0 (USA late-77 to 86)
343.cap $19  Chrome cap with horn button – see #2 below
343.clamp $4  4-piece clamp with M4x12 screw
If the knob breaks, just leave the lights always on.
On a late-77 to 86 Puch, with brown and blue/black horn wires,
if you remove this switch, and unplug the horn, the engine will not run.
The blue wire with the black stripe is an “external ignition ground” wire.
To bypass this, and make it run, ground the blue/black wire at the engine.

1 HI-LO-OFF  HORN  $19  cap used, like new, tested
2 LO-OFF-LO HORN  $19  cap used, like new, tested
3 ENGINE RUN-OFF  $14  cap used, like new
Inside the cap, the horn button spring gets weak, or the rivet gets rusty.
On most bikes, that just makes the horn weaker, but on a ’77-later Puch,
that causes the horn to stay on all of the time (so does a loose clamp).

 

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4.6 Aprilia Run/Lights/Horn – L side 
part#    price    parts list  
Ap-2.8  none  switch only, 38 mm hole spacing

This Aprilia Long Square Chrome 38mm has the horn rivet on the right. CEV Long Square Chrome 38mm interchanges, but has the rivet on the left.  

 

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4.7 CEV 8166.? “Square Plastic” Turn/Engine Stop Switch – right side
CEV8166.?   $30   used switch only, tested good
says “CEV 195  ENGINE STOP  OFF  RUN, L TURN R”
The electric start button is missing on this version for pedal or kick start bikes. 

 

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4.8 CEV 8166.? “Square Plastic” Turn/Engine Stop/Start Switch – right side
CEV8166.?   none   Switch only, solder connectors
says “CEV 195  ENGINE STOP  OFF  RUN, L TURN R,  START”
For many 1970’s Italian motorcycles with electric start. 

 

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4.9 CEV 8167.2 “Square Plastic” Lights/Hi/Lo/Horn/Flash Switch – left side
8167.2   $65 – $40  Switch only, says “CEV 196 Lights On/Off, Hi/Lo, Flash, Horn”
For Cimatti, KTM, Sparta mopeds original with hi/lo head light.
For Italian made, pre-1973 US motorcycles, and many others.

 

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4.10 CEV 8167.? “Square Plastic” Hi/Lo /Horn /Flash Switch – left side
8167.?    N/A   Switch only, says “CEV 196 Lights Hi/Lo, Flash, Horn”
For Italian made, 1973-later US motorcycles required to have head light always on.
The rails in the switch body, and the steel rollers get cavities from arcing.
They can usually be cleaned and made smooth again.

 

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4.11 CEV 195 and 196 “Square Plastic” Switch Parts
1   blue rocker       n/a  these get melted
2   black rocker     n/a  these get melted worse
3   rocker spring    n/a  12.0 x 3.6 mm
4a roller contact    $3  used
4b roller contact    $7  new   Make this from a piece of drill bit.
5   switch body     $15  new  Replace if rails are badly pitted.
6   hinge pin          $1
7   screw M3x21     $1
8   blue button       $3
9   button spring    n/a  13.5 x 3.9 mm
10 plate contact    n/a
11 black button     n/a
12 cover plate       n/a

 

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4.12 CEV 04726 “Square Plastic” Switch Housing/Mount – left side (or R)
04726  $50-$35  Aluminum switch housing assy
18395      $8   rubber grommet
18453  $0.70   two M6 x 16 allen bolts
18368u   $25   switch body bare, used
18376    $19  switch clamp (breaks when over tightened),
MPclamp  $5  substitute for 18376, clamp for Merit mount 342B and 343B
The substitute clamp holes must be drilled and tapped to M6x1.0, or use smaller bolts.

 

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4.13 CEV 8189 “Clamp-on Plastic” Engine Stop Switch – Right side
8189    $29.0 Switch assy, says “ENGINE STOP   OFF   RUN”
8189u  $15.0 Switch assy used, with the writing faded away
Pclamp $4.00 Chrome clamp
Pscrew $0.60 M4x27 phillips screw
These plastic switches were more durable than older chrome kinds.
Their knob did not break easy. Their clamp did not detach easy.

 

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4.14 CEV 8188 “Clamp-on Plastic” Lights/Horn Switch – Left side
8188    $13.0 Switch assy, says “LIGHTS  OFF  Lo” , 2-position + horn
8188u  $7.00 Switch assy used, with the writing faded away
Pclamp $4.00 Chrome clamp
Pscrew $0.60 M4x27 phillips screw
These  switches have 3mm wide mini male blade connectors.
The wires have female mini blades, like the brake light wires.

 

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4.15 CEV 8190 “Clamp-on Plastic” Hi/Lo/Off/Horn Switch – Left side
8190    none  Switch assy, says “LIGHTS  Hi Lo OFF” , 3-position + horn
Pclamp $4.00 Chrome clamp
Pscrew $0.60 M4x27 phillips screw

 

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4.16 Merit 342A “Square Plastic” Engine Stop Switch – Right side
MP-342A   $26  Right switch, without mount, Puch part 349.2.53.830.0
MP-342A   $10-17  Right switch, good used, without mount

4.17 Magura 342B  Mount for Engine Stop Switch – Right side 
MP-342B   $25  Right mount, good used, without switch, 349.1.54.018.0, without clamp
MP-342B1 $15  Right mount, 3D  printed remake, trimmed and ready to use, without clamp
MP-342B2 none Right mount, CNC aluminum, without clamp, with M4 x 10 screws
MPclamp    $8  L or R clamp used for 342B & 343B, also fits CEV “square plastic”

 

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4.18 Merit 343Az “Square Plastic” Light/Puch-Horn Switch – Left side
(momentary open, normally closed horn button, for Puch only)
MP-343Az $65  Left switch, new, without mount, 349.4.53.817.0
MP-343Az $35-45  good-used

4.19 Magura 343B  Mount for Light/Puch-Horn Switch – Left side 
MP-343B   none Left mount, good used, without switch, 349.1.54.818.0
MP-343B1 $15  Left mount, 3D printed remake, trimmed, without clamp, breaks easy if over-tightened
MP-343B2 none Left mount, CNC aluminum, without clamp, with M4 x 10 screws
MPclamp    $4  L or R clamp used for 342B & 343B, also fits CEV “square plastic”

These clamp-on switches are almost the integrated type, because the switch hangs over part of the control. Magura made the switch base and Merit made the switch, both in 1970’s Germany. The switch bases broke easily, and so the supply ran out early on. They were on US-model mopeds: deluxe Puch models 1978-86, and deluxe Kreidler MP-19. 

 

 

 

 

Contents: 
1. Identification
2. Parts Catalogs and Service Manuals
3. Engine Parts Comparison

 

The purpose here is to learn about Cady models, their parts differences, and then to specify or offer replacement parts. 

 

 

1. Identification

Cady Engines

Most Motobecane moped engines have the pulley-clutch on the left and the magneto-generator on the right. But Motobecane Cady and Moby X have Isodyne (same side) engines have both clutch and magneto on the left.

1.  ’66-74 19641 Isodyne M1 motor has rounded head fins,
no bulge on right case (no right bearing).

2. ’74-78 20108 Isodyne M1 motor has angled head fins,
no bulge on right case (no right bearing).

3. ’74-78 22200 Super Isodyne M3 has angled head fins,
with bulge on right case for right bearing.

4. ’75-78 22329 Super Isodyne M3 has angled head fins,
with a bearing greaser on the right case.

 

Look for the buldge

Mid-70’s Cady M1PRTS yellow and M3PRTS blue are identical.
The only visible difference is the bulge in the M3 right engine case.
Only a right side view shows this.

 

Look for the light

The headlight style and color can narrow down the identity.

 

 

 

 

Models with Isodyne Engine M1 #19641

 

 

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C1 1966-68 
Cady sheet frame, bicycle fork, 23 x 2 tires (19″ rims)
one speed dual auto clutch, no suspension
red metallic
S10-693 carb, 20069 19725 controls

 

 

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M1 1966-74 
Cady sheet frame, bicycle fork, 21 x 2 tires (17″ rims)
one speed dual auto clutch, no suspension
red metallic, 33 km/h = 20.5 mph
AR¹-10-674 carb, 19134 19124 controls

 

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M1 P demontable 1966-68  
2.00-16 tires (20 x 2.00)
no suspension, headlight on fender
red metallic  with S10-693 carb

M1 P demontable 1968-74
2.00-16 tires (20 x 2.00)
no suspension, headlight on fender
red metallic, red, blue, white, topaz
AR¹-10-691 carb, 20069 19694 controls

 

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M1 PR 1967-74
2.00-16 tires (20 x 2.00)
no suspension  (PR means 16″ rims)
red, blue, white, topaz
AR¹-10-691 carb, 20069 19725 controls
20069 20008 controls after 4/68
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M1 PRT 1968-74
2.00-16 tires (20 x 2.00)
Telescopic fork
red, blue, white, topaz
AR¹-10-691 carb, 20069 20008 controls

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M1 PRTS 1970-74
2.00-16 tires (20 x 2.00)
Telescopic fork, rear Suspension
red, blue, white, topaz
AR¹-10-691 carb, 20069 20008 controls
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Models with Isodyne Engine M1 #20108

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M1  1974-77
2.00-19 tires
no suspension
metallic red, metallic brown
AR¹-10-691 carb, 21675 20957 controls

 

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M1 PR  1974-77
2.25-16 tires (PR means 16″ rims)
no suspension
red, white 
AR¹-10-691 carb, 21675 21284 controls
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Cady PR  1974-77
2.00-16 tires PR
no suspension
red, white with AR¹-10-691 carb
sold in Canada by Canadian Tire
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M1 PRTS 1974-78
2.00-16 tires PR
Telescopic fork, rear Suspension
red, blue, white, yellow
AR¹-10-691 carb, 21675 21284 controls
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Cady PRTS 1974-78
2.00-16 tires PR
Telescopic fork, rear Suspension
red, blue, white, yellow
AR¹-10-691 carb, 21675 21284 controls
sold in Canada by Canadian Tire

 

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M3: 1976-77
2.00-19 tires
no suspension
metallic brown
this has an M1 engine, not M3

 

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M3T: 1976-77
2.00-19 tires
Telescopic fork
metallic brown
this has an M1 engine, not M3

 

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Models with Super Isodyne Engine M3

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M3 PR  1974-77
2.00-16 tires PR
no suspension
sandy white, green
AR1-11.5-753 carb, 21675 21284 controls
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M3 PRT  1974-77
2.00-16 tires PR
Telescopic fork
yellow, sandy white, green
AR1-11.5-753 carb, 21675 20957 controls

 

 

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Moby (M3 PRT)  1974-77
2.00-16 tires PR
Telescopic fork
blue, other colors
AR1-11.5-753 carb, 21675 21284 controls
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M3 PRTS  1974-77
2.00-16 tires PR
Telescopic fork, rear Suspension
yellow, sandy white, green, met blue
AR1-11.5-753 carb, 21675 21284 controls
sold in Canada by Canadian Tire
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M3 PRTSG: 1975-77
2.00-16 tires PR
separately Greased
Telescopic fork, rear Suspension
yellow, sandy white, green, met blue
AR1-11.5-753 carb, 21675 21284 controls

 

 

 

 

 

2. Parts Catalogs and Service Manuals

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The Motobecane Club de France has free pdf downloads of all Motobecane manuals. Here are their five Cady Parts Manuals and models covered. Insert sheets in gray text. Model colors are colored diamonds.

 

https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-cady-m1.pdf   
Nov 1966  2.00-19 tires ♦M1
Sep 1966  clutch and magneto service
Sep 1966  early M1 engine bottom-end versions
Jun 1967  front brake and fork changes
Nov 1966  crankshaft service
Nov 1966  bearing and seal info

https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-Cady.pdf 
Nov 1968  2.00-19 tires ♦M1
Nov 1968  2.00-16 tires ♦M1P, ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT

https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-Cadym1-m1prts.pdf 
Nov 1968  2.00-19 tires ♦M1
Nov 1968  2.00-16 tires ♦M1P, ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT, ♦◊♦♦M1PRTS
Nov 1969  (missing M1PRTS addition)
Mar 1970  points cam change

https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-cady-m1pr.pdf 
Feb 1975  2.00-19 tires ♦M1
Feb 1975  2.00-16 tires ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT, ♦◊♦♦M1PRTS

https://motobecane-club-de-france.fr/document/telechargement/mpr-cady-m3.pdf
Apr 1976  2.25-16 tires ♦◊M3PR, ♦◊♦M3PRT, ♦◊♦M3PRTS, ♦◊♦M3PRTSG
Mar 1974  2.25-16 tires ♦M3PRT, ♦M3PRTS yellow (jaunte) parts addition
Jun  1976  2.25-16 tires ♦M3 metallic brown, M1 engine
Jun  1976  2.00-19 tires ♦M3T metallic brown, M1 engine

 

Cady Timeline

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1966-67 ♦M1

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1967-68 ♦M1, ♦M1P

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1968-70 ♦M1, ♦M1P, ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT

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1970-74 ♦M1, ♦M1P, ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT, ♦◊♦♦M1PRTS

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1974-76 ♦M1, ♦M1P, ♦◊♦♦M1PR, ♦◊♦♦M1PRT, ♦◊♦♦M1PRTS
1974-76 ♦M1, ♦M1P, ♦◊♦◊M3PR, ♦◊♦♦M3PRT, ♦◊♦♦M3PRTS

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1976-78 ♦M3, ♦M3T, ♦◊♦◊M3PR,   ♦◊♦M3PRT,  ♦◊♦M3PRTS, ♦◊♦M3PRTSG

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3. Engine Parts Comparison

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The purpose is to provide replacement parts for Cady, by knowing which parts are the same as on US models. Cady’s were sold in Canada, but not in the US.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here ’66-77 Motobecane Cady engine parts are compared with other US-model Motobecane mopeds, ’57-64 Wards Riverside and ’74-80 Motobecane 50V.

 

Piston rings: In June 1976 Motobecane piston rings changed on all models. Before 6/76 the the 14821 ring gap style was GN (grano normal) where the piston ring stop pin was on one side of the ring groove. After 6/76 the 22148 ring gap style was GI (grano interno) where the piston ring pin was in the center of the ring groove. 

 

Piston: Pistons for Isodyne engines (on Cady and Moby X) are special. They have a 11 mm wrist pin, unlike most other 50cc pistons, and a total height of 47.5mm. The cylinder bore is 39mm. More precisely,, the bore ranges from 38.98 to 39.04 mm in seven tiny increments of 0.01 mm, called sorts. Cylinders and pistons are stamped with a letter. The replacement piston should be the same sort as the cylinder (unless the cylinder is worn).

After July 1976 Motobecane stopped making pistons with side-pins. From then on they made only ones with center-pins. The seven sorts of pre-6/76 replacement pistons remaining in the late 1970’s were sold until each size ran out. Then only center-pin replacements 22481-22487 were supplied when an older part number 19185-19103 was requested.  

 

 

Colors: light grey means superseded, blue means same as AV7 Vc

 

——- Wards Riverside ——–   Cady   Cady   Cady    Motobecane USA 
AV7 V  AV7Dbe  —-AV7 V2—- isodyne sup-iso sup-iso AV7 Vb  —-AV7 Vc—- < engine model
1.5 hp  1.5 hp  1.5 hp  2.0 hp  1.5 hp  1.5 hp  2.0 hp  2.0 hp 1.5 hp 2.0 hp < horsepower
’57-59  ’61-62   1960   ’60-64  ’66-70 ’74-77 ’75-77   ’74-75 ’76-77 ’76-77 < year range
14007A 14030 14010A 14010C C1,M1    M3   PRTSG    50V    50V    50V    < bike model     

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50165  ??????  50294  50298  19093  22200  22329  53745 52341 53745  engine complete
10165  ??????  50294  50298  3 #’s    22201  22313  53745 52341 53745  engine lower assy
14791  14791  14791  16625  19252  22227  22227  19885 19885 19885  cylinder head
14854  14854  14854  14854  19098  19098  19098  14854 14854 14854  head gasket
14816  16618  16618  16618  19081  22202  22202  19478 23460 23460  cylinder with piston
14816  16618  16618  16618  22480  22480  22480  23460 23460 23460  replaced with
14407  16673  16673  16619  19099  22235  00000  16619 16673 16619  intake pipe Ø16
14407  16673  16673  16619  19099  22235  00000  16619 16673 16619  intake pipe Ø17
14407  16673  16673  16619  19099  22235  22235  16619 16673 16619  intake pipe
14815  16620  16620  16620  19100  19100  19100  17073 17073 17073  intake gasket
14819  14819  14819  14819  00000  00000  00000  21240 22275 22275  piston A for 38.97 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103c 19185  19185  21242 22276 22276  piston B or C 38.98 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103e 19186  19186  21244 22277 22277  piston D or E for 38.99 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103g 19187  19187  21246 22278 22278  piston F or G for 39.00 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103 j 19188  19188  21248 22279 22279  piston H or J for 39.01 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103 l 19189  19189  21250 22280 22280  piston K or L for 39.02 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103n 19190  19190  21252 22281 22281  piston M or N for 39.03 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  19103p 19103  19103  21254 22435 22435  piston Q or P for 39.04 cylinder
above is pre-June’76 piston rings, GN gap style (side-pin), below is June’76-on, GI gap style (center-pin)
14819  14819  14819  14819  00000  00000  00000  22275 22275 22275  piston A for 38.97 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22481  22481  22481  22276 22276 22276  piston B or C for 38.98 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22482  22482  22482  22277 22277 22277  piston D or E for 38.99 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22483  22483  22483  22278 22278 22278  piston F or G for 39.00 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22484  22484  22484  22279 22279 22279  piston H or J for 39.01 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22485  22485  22485  22280 22280 22280  piston K or L for 39.02 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22486  22486  22486  22281 22281 22281  piston M or N for 39.03 cylinder
14819  14819  14819  14819  22487  22487  22487  22435 22435 22435  piston Q or P for 39.04 cylinder
14821  14821  14821  14821  14821  14821  14821  14821 14821 14821  piston ring pre-6/’76 39×2 GN
00000  00000  00000  00000  00000  00000  00000  22148 22148 22148  piston ring 6/’76-on 39×2 GI
14895  14895  14895  14895  19097  19097  19097  14895 14895 14895  base gasket
14716  14716  14716  14716  00000  00000  00000  14716 14716 14716  cylinder stud M7-1.00 x 129
14716  14716  14716  14716  19102  19102  19102  14716 14716 14716  cylinder bolt M6-1.00 x 25
14721  14721  14721  14721  19096  19975  19975  14721 14721 14721  decomp valve assembly
15094  15094  15094  15094  19169  00000  00000  15094 15094 15094  piston pin       13 x 30
15094  15094  15094  15094  19169  19169  19169  15094 15094 15094  piston pin       11 x 30
15855  15855  15855  15855  19084  19084  19084  15855 15855 15855  piston bearing 13-16 x 14
15855  15855  15855  15855  19084  19084  19084  15855 15855 15855  piston bearing 11-14 x 14
50230  16903  16903  16903  00000  00000  00000  19609 19609 19609  crankshaft
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  19645  19645  16906 16906 16906  bearing L 15-42×13 #6302
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  00000  00000  16906 16906 16906  bearing L 16-42×13 #6302-QR
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  19645  19645  16906 16906 16906  bearing L 15-42×19 #5302 dbl
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  19645  19645  16906 16906 16906  bearing L 17-47×14 #6303
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  00000  00026  16906 16906 16906  bearing R 15-35×11 #6202
00518  16906  16906  16906  19175  00000  00000  16906 16906 16906  bearing R 16-42×13 #6302-QR
00060  00060  00060  00060  00000  000  0000000  19089 19089 19089  crank seal
14814  14814  14814  14814  00000  00000  00000  19608 19608 19608  crankcase
14896  14896  14896  16910  19088  19088  00000  16910 16910 16910  case gasket

 

 

 

1977 Cady magneto

 

 

 

 

ULO made tail lights, reflectors, and turn signals for German mopeds, Hercules (Sachs), Kreidler, Solo, Kynast, and tail lights for many non-German mopeds, Batavus, Sparta, Puch, Peugeot, Motobecane and Honda PA50. 

ULO was founded by Moritz Ullman in 1947 in Geislingen Germany. Ullman knew how to make molded glass products, like bicycle reflectors. Today ULO is worldwide, making tail lights for cars like BMW and Audi.

250 and 248: There are two versions of 1970’s -80’s moped tail lights, 250 and 248. The black housing says the number on the inside. The 250 came first in about 1972 to 1978. The 248 replaced the 250 in about 1978 to 1984. 

Dates: ULO plastic parts have a date mark. The lens has the compliance standards and those have a start date.

Identification

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1975 ULO 250-1   lens 250-0015
bulb 6V 18/5w brake/tail
USA ’75-80 Motobecane 40 and ’75-77 50, 50V

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1977 ULO 250-2   lens 248-0015
upper bulb 6V 10w brake, lower bulb 6V 5w tail
USA ’75-78 Batavus, Columbia, Hercules, Kreidler,
Kynast, Puch, Sparta, Solo, ’78-80 Honda PA50

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1978 ULO 248-1   lens 248-0015
bulb 6V 18/5w brake/tail
USA ’78-80 Motobecane 50, 50V

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1978 ULO 248-2   lens 248-0015
upper bulb 6V 10w brake, lower bulb 6V 5w tail
USA ’78-83 Peugeot 103SP, Columbia, Solo, Sparta

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1978 ULO 248-3   lens 248-0015
upper bulb 6V 10w brake, lower bulb 6V 5W tail
ignition ground resistor in parallel with brake
USA ’78-82 Batavus 

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Rep 250 replica, bulbs 12V 10w and 12V 5w
has no upper mount hole, loose bulb sockets
does not allow original wires under fender

The housing has no upper mount hole, so a 6mm (15/64″) hole must be drilled. The housing and lens screw hole tubes are 2mm higher and 1mm farther apart. So the lens does not directly fit an original ULO 250 housing. The bulb holder-mirror is different, a metal plate with plastic bulb sockets that are loose. The looseness might cause bulb burnout from vibration. The bulb sockets have 3mm male blade connectors, instead of 8mm male blades like the originals. So the original wires with 8mm female blade connectors will not fit. 

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Rep 250-w replica, bulbs 6V 10w and 6V 5w
modified to accept original wires

Made from: 1) Rep-hous with the upper mount hole drilled, M5 or M6 mount bolt added, wires hole widened to 9 mm, 2) Rep-mirr with 8mm blade connectors soldered on, 3) Rep-lens, 4) Rep-ST44 screws.

Benefits: 1) allows the original wires to be reused, 2) the wire connectors are protected inside the light, unlike a plain Rep 250 where they are under the fender, 3) replaces ULO 250-2. Can also replace CEV lights without ignition ground resistors, with fender drilling.

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Rep 250m1 replica, bulb 6V 21/5w (or 12V)
modified with ULO 1-bulb holder

Made from: 1) Rep-hous with the upper mount hole drilled, M5 or M6 mount bolt added, lens screw posts reduced in height, wires hole widened to 9 mm, 2) 250-0016 with the top cut down by 2 mm and the screw holes moved 1 mm farther apart by grinding off the outer edge, 3) Rep-lens, 4) 250-ST55 55 mm screws shortened to 50 mm.

Benefits: 1) solid bulb sockets for less bulb burn out, 2) uses the same original wires, no soldering, 3) replaces ULO 250-1. Can also replace CEV lights with ignition ground resistors, with fender drilling.

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Rep 250m2 replica, bulbs 6V 10W and 6V 5W (or 12V)
modified with ULO 2-bulb holder

Made from: 1) Rep-hous with the upper mount hole drilled, M5 or M6 mount bolt added, the lens screw posts reduced in height, the wires hole widened to 9 mm, 2) 248-0016 with the top cut down by 2 mm and the screw holes moved 1 mm farther apart by grinding off the outer edge, 3) Rep-lens, 4) 250-ST55 55 mm screws shortened to 50 mm.

Benefits: 1) solid bulb sockets for less bulb burn out, 2) uses the same original wires, no soldering, 3) replaces ULO 250-2. Can also replace CEV lights without ignition ground resistors, with fender drilling.

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Lights for Sale

Originals
60a ULO 250-1  $73 used, 6V 21/5w bulb (or 12V)
60a ULO 250-2  N/A used, 6V 10w, 6V 5w (or 12V)
60b ULO 248-1  $65 used, 6V 21/5w bulb (or 12V)
60b ULO 248-2  N/A used, 6V 10w, 6V 5w (or 12V)
60b ULO 248-3  $80 used, 6V 10w, 6V 5w with ignition resistor

Replicas
60a Rep 250 -0  $25 12V 10w, 12V 5w, sold as is
60a Rep 250-w  $42 6V 10w, 6V 5w bulbs (or 12V)
60a Rep 250m1 $48 6V 21/5w single bulb (or 12V)
60a Rep 250m2 $55 6V 10w, 6V 5w bulbs (or 12V)

Parts for Sale

61a 250-6017 none  ULO250 housing used
61a 250-hous $30.0 Rep250 housing modified
61a 250-hous $00.0 lens screws must be 5mm shorter
61r  Rep-hous $15.0 Rep250 housing (not modified)
61b 248-6017 $20.0 ULO248 housing used broken

62x 250-pum  $0.50 Puch upper bolt M5x32
62a 250-upm  $0.50 250 upper bolt M6x32
62b 248-upm  $0.50 248 upper bolt M6x25

63a 250-ST55 $1.00 250 lens screw self-threading x 55
63a 250-ST50 $2.00 shortened screw self-threading x 50
63b 248-m445 $0.70 248 lens screw M4 x 45
63r  Rep-ST44 $1.00 Rep 250 lens screw self-threading 3.95 x 44

64x 248-0015 $30.0 new original lens ’76-84 holes 89 mm
64x 250-lens  $23.0 replica lens modified, requires modified housing
64a 250-0015 $35.0 used original lens ’72-75 holes 89 mm
64r  Rep-lens  $16.0 replica lens unmodified, holes 90, 2 mm higher

65x 250-gask $7.00 ULO 250 lens gasket
65x 250-gask $0.00 not for ULO 248 or Rep 250

66x 250-ge63 $2.00 6V 5w lower bulb GE 63
66   250-ge67 $1.50 12V 5w lower bulb GE 67

67x 250-ge81 $2.00 6V 10w upper bulb GE 81
67   250-ge89 $1.50 12V 10w upper bulb GE 89
67a 248-1154 $2.00 6V 21/5w dual bulb GE 1154
67a 248-1157 $1.20 12V 21/5w dual bulb GE 1157

68x 250-lomb $0.50 “Puch” lower bolt M5x16
68a 248-lomb $0.80 non-Puch lower bolt M6x16
68c 248-lwas  $0.20 non-Puch lower mnt washer M6

69x 250-csh1 $9.00 cushion foam (only on some)
69a 250-csh2 $9.00 cushion thick (only on some)
69b 250-csh3 $9.00 cushion thin (only on some)

70x 250-locw  $0.20 “Puch” mount lock washer M5
70a 248-locw  $0.20 non-Puch mnt lock washer M6

71x 250-mnut $0.25 “Puch” mount hex nut M5
71a 248-mnut $0.25 non-Puch mount hex nut M6

72x 248-grom $1.00 grommet for 2-bulb mirror

73x 248-0016 $25.0 used 2-bulb holder-mirror
73x 248-mirr  $32.0 used 2-bulb holder modified
73a 250-0016 $13.0 1-bulb holder-mirror
73a 250-mirr  $20.0 1-bulb holder modified
73r  Rep-mirr  $10.0 Rep 250 bulb holder-mirror

The little rubber grommets #72 for the two-bulb holder-mirror, are important. When one is missing, the bulb holder is loose. Engine vibration causes the loose holder to “buzz” or vibrate and rub against the lens and housing. The buzzing causes the bulbs to burn out, and produces white powder. The white plastic dust or powder is evidence of “buzzing”.  Slices of small rubber hose can be good substitutes.

 

 

 

 

 

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4. Peterson Tail Lights

Peterson tail lights, made in Grandview, Missouri USA, were on ’76-80 Jawa and ’76-77 Derbi mopeds.

Peterson PM-420 1960’s – 70’s trailer tail light
used on 1976-77 Jawa Babetta (USA models)

–   3296-061  N/A  Tail Lamp PM420
1   3296-061  N/A  Lamp housing
2    3296-061 N/A Lens used PM420-15
3  34544-001 50¢ Lens screw ST (2)
4      34213 $1.00 Nut 3/8-24 fine
5      34213    50¢ Lock washer 3/8″
6      60507  $2.00 Bulb 6V 21/5W #1154

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Peterson PM-421 meets 1970’s US safety standards for motorcycle tail lamps (shines to the sides). Also has built-in side reflectors, eliminating the need for separate ones. Used on 1978-80 Jawa, 1976-77 Derbi, and not many others. 

–  70106  N/A Tail lamp used PM-421
1  70100  $33 Housing-mirror used PM-421
2  70101  N/A Lens cover new PM-421-15
3  70102  N/A Lens screw ST (3)
4  70103  N/A Mount screw ST (3)
5  60507  $2.00 Bulb 6V 21/5W #1154

6  422-10  $19 plastic mount PM-422-10
7  422-24  $$6 mount rubber PM-422-24

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5. Stanley Tail Lights

Dozens of different Stanley tail lights, made in Japan, are on most Honda motorcycles and mopeds. Here we focus on those used on mopeds and small motorcycles.  

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Stanley 040-4765, used on 1977-85 General (top-tank), Lazer (top-tank) and compatibles, made in Taiwan.

1  N/A lamp assembly
2  N/A chrome housing-mirror
2  N/A (2) M6 threaded holes spaced 90mm
3  N/A mount bracket (not shown)
4  $2.00 bulb 6V 21/5W
5 $8 lens gasket
6 $0.90 lens screw M4x50 phillips-wide
7  $40 red lens new, small crack on clear bottom

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Stanley HM-23RC, used on 1977-83 Honda Express NC50 and Express II NA50, made in Japan.

1 none  lamp assembly
2 $45.0 black housing-mirror-mount with license mount
2 none  (3) M6 bolt-thru rubber mounts
4 $2.00 bulb 6V 21/5W
5 none  lens gasket (used)
6 none  lens screws ST (2) 60mm
7 $8.00 red lens (used, side reflectors broken off)

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Stanley HM-42RC, used on 1984-85 Honda Spree NQ50, 1990 Honda NS50, and other late 1980’s Hondas.

1  $45 lamp assembly, without mount
2  $35 black housing-mirror
2  $45 (2) M5 threaded holes spaced 100mm
3  $10 black mount for NS50 (shown)
2  $18 black mount for NQ50 with license mount
4  $1.20 bulb 12V 21/5W
5 $12 lens gasket (used)
6 $$3 lens screws ST (2) 40mm
7  $15 red lens (used)

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6. Cat Eye Tail Lights

Cat Eye reflectors, lights, and turn signal kits, for bicycles and mopeds, were made in Japan.

Cat Eye TL-800, used on 1977-85 Taiwan mopeds, Indian, Angel, General (step-thru) and compatibles.

1 $70.0 lamp assembly, with mount, used
2 $42.0 chrome housing-mirror, used
3 $35.0 black metal mount (shown) good-used
4 $2.00 bulb 6V 21/5W #1154
5 $12.0 lens gasket (used)
6 $1.00 lens screw M4 x 50 or 55 phillips
7 $32.0 red lens 35mm hole spacing

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7. Saturnus Tail Lights

Saturnus tail, turn and head lights were made in Ljubljana, Slovenia. Saturnus tail lights were only on 2012-13 Tomos mopeds (US models), but they have been on European models for decades. 

 Saturnus 2-bulb tail lamp parts, from 2012 Tomos USA Parts Manual.

#  part#  price  qty    description
30  223572  N/A   1  Rear lamp 2012-on
31  044698 $1.50 1  bulb 12V/5W  BA15S
32  044689 $1.50 1  bulb 12V/10W BA15S
33  044439  $$1   2  Lens screw ST 3.9×16
34  236963  N/A   1  Rear lamp holder (mount) 2012-on
35  026690 1- .60 2  Screw M6x16 button-head allen
36  031509  20¢   2  Washer 6
37  222187  $$8   2  Distance tube 6x10x7.5 (not 6x9x5.5 like pre-2012)
38  219946  $$5   2  Vibration rubber for taillight xxx (same as pre-2012)
39  031925  20¢   2  Washer 6 xxxxxxxxxx   (lower is same as pre-2012)

40  044284 $1.40 2  hex bolt M6x22 xxxxxx  (not M6x20 like pre-2012)
41  217674  50¢   2  Washer 6.4×16 xxxxxxx (not 8.4×16 like pre-2012)
42  030040  50¢   2  Nut M6 self-locking (not shoulder nut like pre-2012)

The fender mount was made to interchange with CEV 9417. The upper 6mm stud on CEV 9417 was very short. That made the special shoulder nut necessary, on 1978-2012 Tomos with CEV 9417. This Saturnus mount uses separate bolts, which are longer. That eliminates the need for a more costly shoulder nut. So Saturnus mount uses a 2mm shorter nut, 2mm longer bolt, 2mm longer spacer. This makes the bolts/nuts 2mm closer to the rear tire.  

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8. Fiem Tail Lights

Fiem tail and turn lights are made in India. On US models, Fiem rear lamps are on early 2000’s Hero Pacer, Panther, Ankur (Hero Majestic), Cosmo Stinger (Mont) and Avanti Autopower, Mont, Supersport, Kobra (Mont) mopeds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These two lights are the same. The Avanti one is missing the lower red reflector and left side reflector. The Hero one is missing the right side reflector. The top bulb is bigger for the brake light, 12V 10W with base BA15S (bayonet 12 mm single contact). The bottom bulb is smaller for the tail light, 12V 4W with base BA9S (bayonet 9 mm single contact). The tail light also illuminates the license plate through a clear bottom in the red lens.

 

The Avanti wire colors are yellow = tail, green = brake, black = ground. See wirings for more.

 

 

Inline Fuel Filters

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C1 3/16″ inline filter, round screen type, 12-1585 $6

 

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C2 1/4″ inline filter, round screen type, 15-1520 $6

 

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C3 1/4″ inline filter, 90 deg paper type, 15-1796 $3

 

Screw-on Adaptors

C4: 10×1 male to 12×1 male adapter  $12 plus $2 for the seal ring

Sometimes a gas tank has a 10 x 1 threaded gas valve hole that is close to a “wall”, preventing the gas valve from screwing on or off, unless the tank is removed. Sometimes removal of the tank is very difficult, like on a Cimatti City Bike. In those cases an adaptor fitting can be used to convert to a turn-buckle type gas valve, where only the nut turns. 

A 10mm washer made of plastic, paper, or other semi-hard material provides the seal, not the threads. 

 

 

Screw-on Extenders

What is an extender and when is it needed? An extender is a piece that moves a M10-1.0 screw-on valve away from the tank.

1. For when the petcock handle hits the tank in the up (reserve) position. Most original valves had reserve pointing up, ↑reserve  off→ on↓. Original valves with an up position often had to be moved away from the bottom of the tank with an extender, to allow the handle to go straight up and not hit the tank. Some tanks had a welded-on extender, a short pipe with a 10×1 threaded hole. Some original valves had screw-on extenders. 

For this reason, most modern replacement petcocks do not have an up position. They have ←reserve  on↓ off→. That eliminates the need for an extender, a cost saving improvement.

2. For when the petcock passes through a hole in a body panel. The correct extender length lowers the petcock to the level needed to pass through a hole in a cover panel. So the petcock is hidden except for the handle, for a clean look.

3. For when something prevents installation. Sometimes part of the gas tank or frame prevents the screw-in petcock from screwing in. An example is Peugeot 102.

..part#  price  extension
C10.11   $13  11.0 mm = 10.0 mm extender + 1 mm seal washer
C

C10.12   $14  12.0 mm = 10.0 mm extender + 2 mm seal ring
C

C10.145 $13  14.5 mm = 13.5 mm extender + 1 mm seal washer
C

C10.155 $14  15.5 mm = 13.5 mm extender + 2 mm seal ring
C

C10.195 $14  19.5 mm = 13.5 mm extender + 6 mm cup seal
C10.195 $00  1980 Peugeot 102 SP (required)

C10.22   $26  22.0 mm = 10+10 extenders + 1+1 seal washers
C

C10.23   $27  23.0 mm = 10+10 extenders + 1+2 seal washers
C

C10.25   $13  25.0 mm = 24.0 extender + 1 mm seal washer
C

C10.26   $14  26.0 mm = 24.0 extender + 2 mm seal ring
C

C10.30   $14  30.0 mm = 24.0 extender + 6 mm cup seal
C

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seal Rings

C13 seal ring    10-14 x 6  w/metal cup 10.4-16-4.5  $2
continued soft, for light tightening, seals over a wide range

C14 seal 0-ring 10-15-2.5 w/metal cup 10.4-15-3.5  $2
continued soft, for light tightening, seals over a wide range

C15 seal ring   10.0 id, 13.7 od, 1.8-2.3 tall nylon $2.00
continued hard, can hold up to tightening pressure

C16 seal ring     7.5 id, 10.5 od, 1.7-2.1 tall nylon $2.00
continued hard, can hold up to tightening pressure

C17 seal ring     7.9 id, 10.4 od, 1.4-1.8 tall fiber  $2.00
continued hard, can hold up to tightening pressure

C18 seal ring     8.0 id, 11.7 od, 0.0-1.0 tall fiber  $2.00
continued hard, can hold up to tightening pressure

Many more of these are listed in Parts/Engine/Seals and O-Rings

 

Turnbuckle type nuts (forward and reverse thread)

These special nuts have “forward” right-hand thread on one side and “reverse” left-hand thread on the other side. The left thread side screws onto the valve, and the right thread side screws into the tank. This allows a screw-on valve to be tightened without the valve turning, and allows the valve to face any direction 360 degrees after tightening.

C20: 22 x 1 internal right to 22 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   $7 chrome

C21: 16 x 1 internal right to 16 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   $2

This turnbuckle type (LH and RH) nut is used on all 16mm female (internal-thread) moped gas valves.

C21a: 14 x 1 internal right to 14 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   ??

C22: 12 x 1 internal right to 12 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   $1

This turnbuckle type (LH and RH) nut is used on all 12mm female (internal-thread) moped gas valves. 

 

C23: 22 x 1 internal right to 16 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   N/A

This new nut was made improperly. The 16 x 1 left thread ID is to big (so it would strip off the soft alloy threads of the petcock when fully tightened) and the center-line is not straight (so the sealing surface of the petcock is at an angle to the sealing surface of the tank).

C24: 16 x 1 internal right to 12 x 1 internal left  turnbuckle nut   N/A

There are two things to watch out for with these dual diameter dual thread nuts.

1. There are two ring-shape sealing surfaces on the petcock that must be close to the same height when the nut is fully tightened. The outer 

2. The ring-shape sealing surface on the gas tank must be wide enough to press against both of the petcock sealing surfaces.

 

Hoses and Parts

C29 clear nylon hose 3/16″ id 5/16″ od $1/foot fits moped spigots 5mm, no clamps

C30 soft aluminum tubing 1/8″ od $0.50/inch for making reserve tubes, longer or curved upward
continued easily bent, often must be ground slightly for press fit into hole

C31 “Y” connector for 3/16″  hose $3 for joining two fuel lines into one upward
continued for making a clear hose external fuel gauge, or for dual gas tanks

 

 

Inner Seal Discs

These rubber disks are hard and deteriorated after 30 years. The rest of the petcock is metal and lasts forever, or has round seal rings that are relatively easy to find.

Cross Referencing Hopes: The sizes, applications, and possible sourcing of these vital rubber disks is being studied. It is hoped that some of the common moped gas valves might use the same rubber seal as some kinds of Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha, or others. When that information becomes available, it will be posted here. Then anyone could order a seal disk for a small brand name bike from a big brand name parts supplier. 

Flipping: Old rubber inner seal disks get hard, shrink, and become deformed. Some can be flipped over to expose a fresh unused side.

Vintage Karcoma: Left, an actual original 1970’s Karkoma (Germany) gas valve from a 1979 Kynast moped, with only 50 miles of use. 30+ years of sitting with old, rotten gasoline premix has completely clogged the passageways with hard tar, and decomposed the seal disk to where it broke when the valve was disassembled. Part of the seal disk shaped like a smile broke off and stuck to the movable plate with handle. Usually when these get sticky the handle ends up getting snapped off, in addition to the seal disk crumbling and the holes clogged.  This is the kind that uses a 3.3mm tall lip on the outer edge of the 2.0mm tall by 13.7mm diameter seal disk D4. Later 1980’s Karkoma valves did not have the lip. For those the D4 early seal disk lip must be carefully ground off. Even the last few new old stock 1970’s Karkoma seal disks, once clear orange, now cloudy gold, are brittle and crack and crumble easily in your fingers. Too bad. That is why disk D4 is N/A not available.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 #  price  OD x thickness  style   Fuel Petcock Inner Seal Disks .
D6a none  13.4 x 2.3  3 holes shrunk aftermarket
D4x none  13.7 x 2.0  3.3 outer lip, 70’s Karkoma (Germany)
D7x none  13.7 x 2.0  3 holes no outer lip, 80’s Karkoma (Germany)
D9x none  13.9 x 1.6  3 holes 3 lips OMG (Italy) for most replacements
D5x none  14.0 x 2.0  3 ∅3.5 holes 70’s Paioli for valve A33
D5a none  14.9 x 3.2  3 holes shrunk unknown
D5b $5.00 14.5 x 2.1  5 holes Jawa
D5c none  14.0 x 1.8  3 holes 70’s Orlandi for valve B8
D2a none  15.8 x 2.8  4 holes very shrunk D2 from ’65 Honda CA200
D2b none  16.2 x 2.8  4 holes shrunk D2
D2c $22.0 16.3 x 3.0  4 holes D2 with the 4 holes widened
D2x $8.00 16.3 x 3.0  4 holes Honda 16957-ZE1-812 replaces 16955-011-010, 16955-028-004
D2x $0.00 16.3 x  3.0 4 holes fits 60’s-70’s Honda’s and Trac Eagle (Korea), Angel (Taiwan)
D8a $5.00 18.6 x 3.0  3 holes shrunk D8
D8x $12.0 18.8 x 3.1  3 holes blue Derbi (Spain) valve=18.5
D19 none  18.8 x 2.4  4 holes KL-18-6646 Kawasaki 43049-1017
D1x none  19.3 x 3.0  8 holes Honda 16115-001-004 60’s Cub
D10 $11.0 20.4 x 3.3  4 holes Honda 16955-268-020 another view
D10 $0.00 20.5 x 3.2  4 holes Indian (Taiwan) for valve A35
D3x $7.00 22.0 x 2.3  2+2 holes Piaggio 013836 vintage Vespa scooters
D11 none  22.3 x 3.5  4 holes General (Taiwan) for valve A28
D17 none  22.6 x 2.4  5 holes KL-18-6644 Kawasaki 11009-1188
D18 none  23.0 x 2.4  2 holes + slot KL-18-6645 Kawasaki 43049-1066
D16 none  28.5 x 2.4  5 holes KL-18-6643 Kawasaki 11009-1194
D21 none  00.0 x 0.0  Honda 17993
D22 none  00.0 x 0.0  Honda 16955-HA2-005  close up view
D24 none  00.0 x 0.0  Kawasaki 92065-094
D25 none  00.0 x 0.0  Kawasaki 92065-055
D26 none  00.0 x 0.0  Suzuki 44341-18450
D27 none  00.0 x 0.0  Suzuki 51455-010
D28 none  00.0 x 0.0  Yamaha 47X-24523-00
D29 none  00.0 x 0.0  Yamaha 137-24523-00

 

1. Seal disks D16 to D19
2. D5 seal disk
3. Valve A33 with disk D5
4. D5 Paioli and D5b Jawa. The Jawa seal disk can substitute for Paioli if the holes are widened and the outer diameter is reduced

The D5c Orlandi seal disk cannot be flipped over like D5 Paioli can, because the center hole is slightly off to one side. The center hole would have to be widened to allow flipping. Flipping the disk over uses the back surface which is normally flat and undamaged.

 

 

 

Contents
  carburetor  years  mph  Honda model
14. PA29C-B  ’84-85 30 NQ50 Spree
14. PA29D-A  ’84-85 25 NQ50 Spree
14. PA29C-D  ’85-85 30 NQ50 Spree
14. PA29D-B  ’85-85 25 NQ50 Spree
14. PA29H-A  ’86-86 30 NQ50 Spree
14. PA29???   ’86-86 25 NQ50 Spree
14. PA29???   ’87-87 30 NQ50 Spree
14. PA29???   ’87-87 25 NQ50 Spree
15. PA05A-H  ’83-84 30 NB50M Aero
16. PA04G-A  ’85-85 30 NB50M Aero (US)
15. PA04P-A  ’86-86 30 NB50 Aero (US)
15. PA04W-A ’87-87 30 NB50 Aero (US)
17. PB15A-A  ’82-83 00 C70 Passport

 

 

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14. Keihin

# size  carb   jet code mph   model code GK8
a 12 PA29C-B 68  671  30  ’84-85 NQ50 Spree
b 11 PA29D-A 62  731  25  ’84-86 NQ50 Spree
c 12 PA29C-D 68  673  30  85-‘85 NQ50 Spree
d 11 PA29D-B 62  733  25  85-‘85 NQ50 Spree
e 12 PA29H-A 68  871  30  86-‘86 NQ50 Spree
f  11 PA29???  62  881  25  86-‘86 NQ50 Spree
g  12 PA29???  68  601  30  87-‘87 NQ50 Spree
h 11 PA29???  60  611  25  87-‘87 NQ50 Spree

1. 1983 Honda NB50M Aero
2. 1985 Honda NQ50 Spree
3. 16100-GK8-673 Keihin PA 29C-D

Flange Mount: The flange mount holes on ’84-87 Spree carburetors are spaced 35mm, center-to-center. That is different from ’74-78 PC50 32mm, ’82-83 NC50-AA 36mm, ’77-83 NC50 38mm, ’79-on Z50 32mm, and ’76-78 Z50 38mm.

These were zippy 50cc two-stroke automatic scooters that maxed out at 30mph to meet many US state’s moped laws. They have electric start so there is 12 volt battery power to operate an automatic electric choke. They also have a gas gauge and an automatic vacuum petcock on the gas tank. You don’t have know very much to operate one. They had a CVT variator that continuously changes the belt drive pulley size ratio, for very quick acceleration. 

Idle Mixture Screw: The idle mixture screw is an “air screw” that blocks off an air channel.

Main Jet: The main jet is a screw-in, recessed-type, M6-0.75 thread, size 68 (0.68mm).

Pilot Jet: The idle jet is not replaceable. It is inside the upper end of the brass tube, pressed into the main body, on the engine side of the main jet.

Float Seat: This carb does not have a replaceable float needle valve seat. The seat is part of the main body, and must be cleaned and polished with a spinning Q-tip.

Float: non-stirrup type white plastic 16013-147-004 see 6-4.0b, non-stirrup needle valve 16155-883-005 see 6-2.0b

Top Cap: M18 x 1 thread

The float bowl gasket in the illustration looks like the NC50-type, but it’s not. The actual gasket has an additional loop, for a vent and overflow. 

1. 16010-GK8-601, 2. 16010-GE8-305, 3. 16010-GS6-305 gasket sets

o# abcdef gh price  Honda part#    carburetor   NQ50 version
10 10100000  N/A  16100-GK8-671
10 10100000  N/A  16100-GK8-672 PA29C-B ’84-85 US 30
10 01010000  N/A  16100-GK8-731
10 01010100  N/A  16100-GK8-732 PA29D-A ’84-86 US 25
10 00100000  N/A  16100-GK8-673 PA29C-D ’85 US 30
10 00010000  N/A  16010-GK8-733 PA29D-B ’85 US 25
10 00001000  N/A  16100-GK8-871
10 00001000  N/A  16100-GK8-872
10 00001000  N/A  16100-GK8-873
10 00001000  N/A  16100-GK8-874
10 00001000  N/A  16100-GK8-875
10 00001000  N/A  16100-GK8-893 PA29H-A ’86 US 30
10 00000100  N/A  16100-GK8-881
10 00000100  N/A  16100-GK8-882
10 00000100  N/A  16100-GK8-883 PA000-0 ’86 US 25
10 00000010  N/A  16100-GK8-601
10 00000001  N/A  16100-GK8-602 PA000-0 ’87 US 30
10 00000010  N/A  16100-GK8-611
10 00000010  N/A  16100-GK8-612 PA000-0 ’87 US 25
o# abcdef gh  price  Honda part#    parts list
o1 11111100  $00 16010-GK8-003 
o1 11111100  $21 16010-GE8-305 gasket solo-set   b c g v o x
o1 00001111  $24 16010-GK8-601 gasket solo-set   b c g v z 
o1 11111111  $26 16010-GE8-315 gasket multi-set b c g v z x
o1 11111111  $28 16010-GS6-305 gasket multi-set b c g v z x d
1b 11111111  $$8 16110-GN2-871 top rubber washer 13 x 16.5 x 1
1c 11111111  $$2 00000-000-000 intake o-ring 2 x 20 (24 od)
1g 11111111  $$2 00000-000-000 drain plug o-ring 1.5 x 4 (7 od)
1v 11111111  $20 00000-000-000 float gasket  2.5 x 1.5 with loop
1z 11111100  0$2 00000-000-000 byster o-ring 1 x 16 (18 od)
1x 00001111  N/A  00000-000-000 byster o-ring 1 x 12 (14 od)
o2 00000101  N/A  16012-GK8-631
o2 00000101  N/A  16012-GK8-601 needle set 25 ’86-87
o2 10101010  N/A  16012-GK8-671 needle set 30 mph
o2 01010000  N/A  16012-GK8-731 needle set 25 mph
o3 11111111  $28 16013-147 -004 float set  3a 3b 3c
o4 11111111  N/A  16014-GK8-003 top set
o5 11000000  N/A  16015-GG2-003
o5 11000000  N/A  16015-GG2-711 chamber set
o5 00010101  N/A  16015-GK8-781 chamber set 25?
o5 00101010  N/A  16015-GK8-671 chamber set 30?
o6 11111111  N/A  16016-197 -004 screw set idle air
o6 11000000  N/A  16016-GK8-871 screw set (idle air)
o7 11111111  N/A  16022-GC7-004
o7 11111111  N/A  16022-GC7-611 throttle valve set
o8 11111111  N/A  16028-187-003
o8 11111111  N/A  16028-GC8-004 screw set B (idle speed)
o9 11000000  N/A  16046-GK8-003 byster set ∅16 ’84
o9 00111100  N/A  16046-GK8-671 byster set ∅16 ’85 CB DA O0 O0 ’86 DA
o9 00111100  N/A  16046-GK8-672 byster set ∅16 ’85 CB DA DB CD ’86 DA
o9 00111100  N/A  16046-GK8-673 byster set ∅16 ’85 CB DA DB CD ’86 DA
o9 00001111  N/A  16046-GK8-781 byster set ∅12 ’86-87
o9 00001111  N/A  16046-GK8-631 byster set ∅12 ’86-87
o9 00001111  N/A  16046-GK8-632 byster set ∅12 ’86-87
11 11111111  $$8 16110-GN2-871 top rubber washer 13 x 16.5 x 1
12 11111111  0$2 16118-166-004 rubber boot substitute Dellorto
13 11111111  $22 16155-883-005 float needle valve
14 11110000  N/A  byster bracket
15 11110000  N/A  byster cover
16 11110000  N/A  byster top cover
17 22220000  N/A  byster screw
18 22222222  0$1 93892-0401208 bowl screw M4 x 12 philips
19 11111111  N/A  drain hose
20 10101010  N/A  99101-187 -0680
20 10101010  N/A  99112-GHB-0680 jet 68  30mph ’84-87
20 01010100  N/A  99101-187 -0620
20 01010100  N/A  99101-ZG0-0620 jet 62  25mph ’84-86
20 00000001  N/A  99101-393 -0600 jet 60  25mph ’87

 

 

 

 

 

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15. Keihin

# size  carb   code mph  models
a 12 PA05A-H  GE8  30  ’83-84 NB50M Aero

  
a. 16100-GE8-673 Keihin PA 05A-H

o# a price  Honda part#    carburetor
10 1  N/A 16100-GE8-613
10 1  N/A 16100-GE8-672
10 1  N/A 16100-GE8-673 PA05A-H  ’83-84 NB50M
o# a price  Honda part#    parts list
o1 1  N/A 16010-GK8-003 
o1 1  $21 16010-GE8-305 gasket solo-set   1b 1c 1g 1v 1z
o1 1  $22 16010-GE8-315 gasket multi-set 1b 1c 1g 1v 1z 1x
1b 1  $$8 00000-000-000 top rubber washer 13 x 16.5 x 1
1c 1  $$2 00000-000-000 intake o-ring 2 x 20 (24 od)
1g 1  $$2 00000-000-000 drain plug o-ring 1.5 x 4 (7 od)
1v 1  $20 00000-000-000 float bowl gasket  2.5 x 1.5 with loop
1z 1  0$2 00000-000-000 choke bystarter o-ring 1 x 16 (18 od)
1x 0  N/A  00000-000-000 choke o-ring (some) 1 x 12 (14 od)
o2 1 $00 16012-GE8-671 needle set 2a 2b 2c 2d
2a 1 0$5 16156-044-004 jet needle w-clip
2b 1 0$2 16157-044-004 jet needle e-clip 1.5 for Ø2.0 needle
2c 1 $00 00000-000-000 jet needle
2d 1 $00 00000-000-000 needle jet
o3 1 $28 16013-147-004 float set 3a 3b 3c white regular
3a 1 $21 00000-000-000 float bare hollow white plastic regular
3b 1 $$4 00000-000-000 hinge pin substitute Ø2 x 18.5
3c 1 $$3 0-93600-04006 hinge screw M4x6 sunk phillips
o4 1 $31 16014-147-004 top set substitute M18-1.0 4a 1b
o5 1 N/A 16015-GE8-003 chamber set 5a 5b 1v 1g
5a 1 N/A 00000-000-000 float bowl
5b 1 N/A 00000-000-000 drain screw
o6 1 N/A 16016-197-004 screw set idle air
o7 1 N/A 16022-GE8-003
o7 1 N/A 16022-GC7-004 valve set
o8 1 N/A 16028-187-003
o8 1 N/A 16028-GC8-004 screw set idle speed
o9 1 N/A 16046-GE8-023
o9 1 N/A 16046-GE7-023
o9 1 N/A 16046-GE7-033 bystarter (choke) set
11 1 N/A 16118-086-004
11 1 0$2 16118-166-004 rubber boot substitute Dellorto
12 1 $22 16155-883-005 float needle valve
14 1 N/A 16198-GA7-701 air vent tube
16 2 0$1 93892-0401208 bowl screw M4 x 12 philips
18 1 N/A 95002-02650 air vent tube clip
19 1 0$7 99101-187-0780 main jet 78 

 

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16. Keihin

# size  carb   code mph  models
a 14 PA04G-A  GN2  30  ’85-85 NB50M Aero (US)
b 14 PA04P-A   GN2  30  ’86-86 NB50 Aero (US)
c 14 PA04W-A GN2  30  ’87-85 NB50 Aero (US)

 
a. 16100-GN2-633 Keihin PA 04G-A

o# abc price  Honda part#    carburetor
11 100  N/A 16100-GN2-633 PA04G-A  ’85 NB50M (US)
11 100  N/A 16100-GN2-672 PA04???   ’85 NB50M (US)
11 010  N/A 16100-GN2-871
11 010  N/A 16100-GN2-872 PA04P-A  ’86 NB50 (US)
11 001  N/A 16100-GN2-762 PA04W-A ’87 NB50 (US)
o# abc price  Honda part#    parts list
o1 111  N/A 16010-GJ2-004 gasket solo-set
o1 111  N/A 16010-GY3-505 gasket multi-set  

 

 

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17. Keihin

Others

1. 16100-GN2-601 Keihin PA 04H-A
2. 16100-GE8-013 Keihin PA 05???

o# abcd price  Honda part#    carburetor
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-003
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-013 PA05???       ’84 NB50M (DK)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-601 PA05???       ’84 NB50M (UK)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-611 PA05???       ’84 NB50M (DE)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-621 PA05???       ’84 NB50M (FR)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GE8-671 PA05???       ’84 NB50M (CA)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-601
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-602 PA04H-A      ’85 NB50M (UK)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-621
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-622 PA04???       ’85 NB50M (FR)
o0 0000  N/A 16100-GN2-671 PA04???       ’85 NB50M (CA)

 

 

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18. Keihin

 

18. Keihin PB 15A-A on #GB4  1982-83 Honda C70 Passport (US)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: 36? mm hole spacing

   quantity
o# ⇓       Keihin PB (a)15A-A
o# a price  Honda part#x  description xxx specs
o0 1  N/A 16100-174-673 carburetor PB 15A-A 1980   C70  Passport (US)
o0 1  N/A 16100-174-772 carburetor PB 15A-A 1981   C70  Passport (US)
o0 1  N/A 16100-GB5-671 carburetor PB 15A-A ’82-83 C70 Passport (US)
o1 1  N/A 16010-GB4-013 gasket solo-set
o1 1  N/A 16010-141-305 gasket multi-set

 

 

 

== carb ID# =========  MINI CYCLES =========
  9. PA    Z502   1968-71 Honda Z50A Mini Trail xx 00 mph OHC
10. PA  655-A  1972-75 Honda Z50A Mini Trail xx oo mph OHC
10. PA 674-A  1970-75 Honda QA50 xxx oooo xx 00 mph OHV
11. PA  03A-A  1976-78 Honda Z50A Mini Trail xx oo mph OHC
11. PA 03C-A 1979-81   Honda Z50R
11. PA 03D-A  1982-85 Honda Z50R
11. PA 03F-B  1986-87 Honda Z50R
12. PA 03H-A   1988-91 Honda Z50R
12. ON 03H-B  1988-91 Honda Z50R
12. PA 03M-A  1992-99 Honda Z50R
12. PA 03N-A  1992-99 Honda Z50R
13. PA 42A-C   2000-03 Honda XR50R
13. PA  42A-C  2004-09 Honda CRF50F

 

 

 

 

 

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9. Keihin Z50A on #045 1968-69 Honda Z50A Mini Trail up to Z50A-255950
9. Keihin Z502 on #045 1969-71 Honda Z50A Mini Trail after Z50A-255950 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: 32mm hole spacing, 2 x 18 (22 od) o-ring

Main Jet: This carb has a screw-in main jet size 50.

Pilot Jet: It also has a screw-in idle (pilot) jet size 38.

Float Seat: It also has a screw-in float needle seat, replaceable.

Float: no-stirrup metal-tip needle valve, metal swinging float

The Z50A and Z502 carbs are the same except for the needle jet #12 and rubber cable pipe #10.

 

 

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10. Keihin 655-A on #130 1972-75 Honda Z50A Mini Trail
12. Keihin  674-A on #114 1970-72 Honda QA50
12. Keihin Ceto and #129 1973-75 Honda QA50

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: 32mm hole spacing, no o-ring groove on carburetor. Instead the o-ring groove is on the intake manifold. Since the 2 x 18 (22 od) intake o-ring is not part of the carburetor, it is not in the Honda gasket set 16010-114-004, or the multi-app set 16010-114-305.

Main Jet: This carb has a “long” press-in jet, with a rubber pad disk under it.

Pilot Jet: The idle jet is not replaceable. It is inside the upper end of the brass tube, pressed into the main body, on the engine side of the main jet.

Float Seat early: The 1970-73 carburetor had a screw-in float needle seat, that was replaceable, like in the illustration.

Float Seat late: The 1974-75 carburetor did not have a replaceable float needle valve seat. The seat was part of the main body, and must be cleaned and polished with a spinning Q-tip.

Float: no-stirrup metal-tip needle valve, swinging float 16013-114-004

Top Cap: M18 x 1.0 thread

Drain screw: 1970-73 chamber set 16015-114-004 had a M4-0.7 thread drain screw with a 2 x 4 (8 od) o-ring. 1974-75 had a M6-0.75 thread drain screw with no o-ring. 1976-78 had a M6-1.0 thread drain screw with a 2 x 2.5 (6.5od) o-ring. 1979-later had a 1.5 x 4 (7od) drain screw o-ring.

 

   quantity
o# ⇓⇓    (a) 655-A  (b) 674-A
o# ab price  Honda part#x  description xxx specs
o0 10  N/A 16100-120-010 carburetor 655-A Ø?? ’72-75 Z50A
o0 01  N/A 16100-000-000 carburetor 674-A Ø?? ’70-75 QA50
o1 11  $24 16010-114-004 gasket solo set 1d 1e 1h 1n 1p 1r
o1 00  $24 16010-114-305 gasket multi set 1d 1e 1h 1n 1p 1r 1q
25 11 0$5 16171-044-004 top rubber washer 1p 10 x 15 x 1
26 11 0$316173-063-004 float bowl o-ring 1n 1.5 x 40 (43 od)
27 11 0$5 16174-045-004 drain screw o-ring 1r 2 x 4 (8od)
28 11 0$2 16176-551-004 main jet o-ring 1d 1 x 3 (5 od)
33 11 $14 16197-063-004 jet support disk 1e Ø7.5 x 1.0
00 11 $$2 00000-000-000 intake o-ring 1h 2 x 18 (22 od)
41 11  N/A 99201-114-520 jet 52
41 11  N/A 99201-114-550 jet 55
41 11  N/A 99201-114-600 jet 60

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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11. Keihin ( 10 mm) PA 03A-A on #130 1976-78 Honda Z50A Mini Trail
12. Keihin (11 mm) PA 03B-A on #181 1979-79 Honda Z50R  up to 5022291
12. Keihin (11 mm) PA 03C-A on #181 1979-81 Honda Z50R after 5022291 12. Keihin (11 mm) PA 03D-A on #181 1982-85 Honda Z50R 12. Keihin (11 mm) PA 03F-B on #181 1986-87 Honda Z50R  

In 1979 the model name changed from Z50A to Z50R, and the name Mini Trail was dropped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: 38 mm hole spacing 1976-78.  32 mm hole spacing 1979-87.

Pilot Jet: The idle jet is not replaceable. It is inside the upper end of the brass tube, pressed into the main body, on the engine side of the main jet.

Main Jet:  For some reason in 1979 Honda wanted to make their jets tamper-proof. It’s funny that they went from one extreme to the other, from jets that fall out too easy, to jets that never come out. Both the NC50 and the Z50 changed to “fixed” jets (not replaceable) in late 1978 and 1979. After 1981 the jet was a screw-in, thankfully, like in the illustration

Float Seat: This carb does not have a replaceable float needle valve seat. The seat is part of the main body, and must be cleaned and polished with a spinning Q-tip.

Carb Kit: Beware of low-cost carburetor kits. In the kit at the right several things are wrong or made badly. 1) it is missing the press-in jet pad disk, 2) the jet o-ring was too big to allow the jet to press in. You can see it seems big in the photo. It was size 1.5 x 4 instead of 1 x 3, 3) the float needle was longer than stock, and the wire stirrup was bent badly in two ways. The throttle (jet) needle was D117 thin instead of D348 thick.

Float: In 1979 the float and float needle changed, from stirrup-type needle valve with black foam float, to no-stirrup needle valve 16155-883-005 with white plastic float 16013-147-004. Like before, the float needle has a rubber cone upper tip and a spring-loaded lower tip. 

Float Bowl: The 1979-later float bowl no longer has a press-in jet support pad disk 7.5 x 1.8mm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   quantity
o# ⇓⇓⇓⇓    PA(a)03A-A  (b)03B-A  (c)03C-A  (d)03D-A  (e)03F-B
o# abcde price  Honda part#x  description xxx specs
o0 1o0oo  N/A 16100-130-641 use 16100-130-642
o0 1o0o0  N/A 16100-130-642 carburetor PA 03A-A Ø10 x 38 ’76-78 Z50A
o0 o1000  N/A 16100-165-004 carburetor PA 03B-A Ø11 x 32 ’79-79 Z50R
o0 o0100  N/A 16100-165-014 carburetor PA 03C-A Ø11 x 32 ’79-81 Z50R
o0 oo010  N/A 16100-181-751 carburetor PA 03D-A Ø11 x 32 ’82-85 Z50R
o0 00001  N/A 16100-181-830  16100-181-831 use 16100-181-832
o0 00001  N/A 16100-181-832 carburetor PA 03F-B Ø11 x 32 ’86-87 Z50R
o1 1o000 $35 16010-081-004 gasket solo-set   1a o d s f o h i
o1 01100 $25 16010-081-014 gasket solo-set   1a o o o f g h
o1 00011 $35 16010-181-831 gasket solo-set   oo o o o f g h o l
o1 01111 $35 16010-181-305 gasket multi-set 1a o o o f g h o l
1a 1o000 $$3 00000-000-000 top rubber washer 10 x 18 x 1
1d 1o0o0 0$2 16176-551-004 main jet o-ring 1 x 3 (5 od)
1s 10000 $14 00000-000-000 jet support pad disk Ø7.5 x 1.8 
1f  11111 $18 00000-000-000 float bowl gasket  Ø1.5 NC50-type
1g o1111 $$2 00000-000-000 drain screw o-ring 1.5 x 4 (7 od)
1h 11011 $$2 00000-000-000 intake o-ring 2 x 18 (22 od)
1i  10000 0$2 16175-260-004 drain screw o-ring 2 x 2.5 (6.5 od)
1l  01111 0$4 16110-181-831 top rubber washer 13 x 19 x 1
02 10000  N/A 16012-130-640 needle set 03AA
02 010o0  N/A 16012-165-014 needle set 03BA use 16012-181-831 
02 00111  N/A 16012-181-831 needle set 03CA, 03DA, 03FB
03 1o000  N/A 16013-099-691 use 16013-143-620
o3 1o000 $46 16013-143-620 float set 3a oo 3c 3d black stirrup
o3 o1111 $28 16013-147-004 float set oo 3b 3c 3d white regular
3a 1o000  N/A 00000-000-000 float bare, solid black foam stirrup
3b o1111 $21 00000-000-000 float bare hollow white plastic regular
3c 11111 $$4 00000-000-000 hinge pin substitute Ø2 x 18.5
3d 11111 $$3 0-93600-04006 hinge screw M4x6 sunk phillips
o4 11100  N/A 16014-130-640 top set with pipe 4a 1a M18-1.0
o4 00011  N/A 16014-GB1-912 top set with pipe 4a 1l M20-1.0
05 1o000  N/A 16015-130-640 chamber set 5a 1e 1f 5b 1g
05 o1110  N/A 16015-099-691 chamber set 5a oo 1f 5b 1g
05 o???1  N/A 16015-130-641 use 16015-130-641
05 o???1  N/A 16015-165-621 chamber set 5a oo 1f 5b 1g
6a ????1  N/A 16016-165-621 use 16016-165-505
6a ????1  N/A 16016-165-505 idle air screw set
6b ????1  N/A 16208-GC8-004 idle speed screw set
07 ?????  N/A  slide set
09 ?????  N/A  rubber cable pipe cover
10 1o0oo  N/A 16011-143-620 use 16011-881-741
10 1o0oo  N/A 16011-881-741 float needle valve  stirrup
10 o1111 $22 16155-883-005 float needle valve regular
11 22222 0$1 93892-04012-08 screw & washer M4x12 pan phillips
14 10000 $16 99201-081-0580 main jet push-in #58 0.0228″
14 01100  N/A fixed needle jet and main jet pressed in 0.0228″
14 00011 0$7 99101-187-0580 main jet screw-in #58 0.0228″
18 11111  N/A (not sold separately) idle jet press-in tube 0.015″ pinhole

 

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12. Keihin PA 03H-A on #GW8 1988 -88 Honda Z50R up to JS900485
15. Keihin PA 03H-B on #GW8 1988-91 Honda Z50R after JS900485
15. Keihin PA 03M-A on #GW8 1992-93 Honda Z50R
15. Keihin PA 03N-A on #GW8 1994-99 Honda Z50R

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flange Mount: 32mm hole spacing

Main Jet: screw-in #58, M6-0.75

Float: no-stirrup type white plastic 16013-147-004, needle valve 16155-883-005

Top Cap: M20-1.0 thread

Idle Mixture Screw: For the entire Z50A and Z50R year range 1968 to 1999, the idle mixture screw was an air type, not a fuel type. An idle air screw blocks an air tunnel, so tighter is less air (richer). An idle fuel screw blocks off a fuel tunnel. So tighter is less fuel (leaner). 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   quantity
o# ⇓⇓⇓⇓  Keihin PA (a)03H-A  (b)03H-B  (c)03M-A (d)03N-A
o# abcd price   Honda part#x   description xxx specs
o0 1000  N/A 16100-GW8-671 16100-GW8-672 carburetor PA 03H-A 1988 Z50R up to JS900485
o0 0100  N/A 00000-000-000  16100-GW8-673 carburetor PA 03H-B ’88-91 Z50R mix screw changed
o0 0010  N/A  -680  -681 000  16100-GW8-682 carburetor PA 03M-A ’92-93 Z50R
o0 0001  N/A  -780  -791 000  16100-GW8-792 carburetor PA 03N-A ’94-99 Z50R
o0 1111  N/A 00000-000-000  16100-GW8-305 multi-carb  PA 03N-A replacement
o1 1111 $35 16010-181-831  gasket solo-set   o0 1f 1g 1h 1l
o1 1111 $35 16010-181-305  gasket multi-set 1a 1f 1g 1h 1l
1f  1111 $18 00000-000-000  float bowl gasket  Ø1.5 NC50-type
1g 1111 $$2 00000-000-000  drain plug o-ring 1.5 x 4 (7 od)
1h 1111 $$2 00000-000-000  intake o-ring 2 x 18 (22 od)
1l   1111 0$4 16110-181-831  top rubber washer 13 x 19 x 1
02 needle set
03 float set
04 chamber set
05 idle air screw set
06 slide set
07 idle speed screw set
09 top set
10 float needle
11 float bowl screw
12 drain hose
13 drain hose clamp
14 main jet

 

 

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13. Keihin PA 42A-C on #GEL  2000-03 Honda XR50R
16. Keihin PA 42A-A on #GEL  2000-03 Honda XR50R
16. Keihin PA 42A-A on #GEL  2004-09 Honda CRF50F

In 2000 the Z50R was replaced by the XR50R. The carburetor remained mostly the same.

 

Links to Images:
2000 Honda XR50R carburetor PA42A-C
2008 Honda CRF50F carburetor  The gasket for this was in use for over 34 years!

This carburetor looks the same as the previous Z50R ones, except the flange is thicker and has square corners, not rounded.

Flange Mount: 32mm hole spacing, thicker with square corners

Chinese re-makes of this carburetor are common on the internet, at incredibly low prices. Read several reviews before buying one. Try to re-use the original Keihin.

In 2004 the XR50R was replaced by the CRF50F. The carburetor remained mostly the same.

Service: Here is a good article about how to remove and clean the non-replaceable idle (pilot) jet.

https://thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/1047667-clogged-pilot-jet-on-a-crf50-success/

The CRF50F idle jet in that article did not crush when gripped lightly with a vise grip pliers. But some pressed-in idle jets have thin walls, or have a tighter fit that needs heavy clamping. Those require a close-fitting drill bit or solid wire, be placed in the hole first, to prevent crushing the tube with the vise grips. It’s a good idea to do that always.