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Welcome. The magneto has two separate functions, 1) produce sparks for ignition, 2) produce electric power for lights.

1) Ignition Pulses: The magneto produces precisely timed pulses, which are transformed into sparks by an internal or external coil.

2) Lights Power: The lights power is normally 6 volts alternating current (6V AC). Normally the correct bulbs are used, and none are burned out. But under certain circumstances the voltage can be less, like 3 volts, or more, like 10 volts. When two or more bulbs share the same generator wire, and one of the bulbs burns out, the others will get an over-voltage, like 8 or 10 volts, become instantly bright and soon burn out. The total watts of the bulbs has to match the watts of the generator, for the voltage to be 6 volts. If the bulb watts is more, then the voltage is less so the light is dim. Bosch makes magnetos with extra generator coils, one for each light, to eliminate the over-voltage and under-voltage problem.

Magneto-Generator History: Moped magnetos changed as moped lights changed over the years. In the 1960’s not many countries worldwide had laws about the brightness of moped lights or the placement of switches and buttons. Mopeds did not have brake lights or extra generator coils for them. A typical 1960’s moped had a 15 watt headlight and a 2 watt tail light, both powered by the same 17 watt generator coil.

Starting in 1972, the USA adopted safety standards for motorcycles and motor-driven cycles (Mopeds had not been defined yet). Lights, rims, brakes and tires had to be US DOT approved. Tail lights had to shine to the sides. Engine stop switches/buttons had to be reachable by the right thumb, while horn and light switches had to be reachable by the left thumb. Switches and fuel petcocks had to be labeled and say what they do. Brake lights were required.

Then in historic 1976 the USA adopted safety standards specifically for mopeds and motorized bicycles. The brake light had to be brighter (at least 10 watts) and not cause the headlight to get dimmer.

Internal and External Ignition Ground: To supply the required independent brake light power, there were two solutions. 1) Internal Ignition Ground, where the ignition source coil internal ground was kept the same, and an extra generator coil was added or 2) External Ignition Ground, where the ignition source coil internal ground was relocated to outside of the engine and used as a brake light power source. Bosch made both magneto types, in both sizes 80 and 90 mm.

Swapping Flywheels: Nearly identical flywheels can have different timing angles. That means the woodruff key groove is at a different angles to the “bump” on the points cam. So you can swap flywheels but your ignition timing would be way off. more to follow…

Over 200 quality Bosch magneto parts attended the reunion.
The 80 mm “small” ones are left, the 90 mm “big” ones are right.
Not shown, the many engines and bikes the used parts came from.

It don’t come easy. Parts catalogs list the bike maker part numbers, but most do not also give the component maker part number.

Bosch coil part numbers come from the packaging of new coils. Sometimes empty ripped-up original boxes are pieced back together, to get the part number translation, such as Sachs-to-Bosch. 1970’s-80’s armatures also have the last 3 digits stamped on.

Bosch stator part numbers are on the back of the base plate. The first 7 digits are cast in, the same for all. The last 3 digits of the stator assembly part number are stamped on by the factory when the coils are attached.

Bosch stator identification: Each engine has a different and unique rubber grommet for the wires to pass through. A pile of used moped stators can be sorted by grommet type, which is engine type. The ones missing grommets can be matched to the grommet ones by stator part number. This is done without any books or manuals. Specifications, illustrations, or part numbers from books, manuals, internet photos are additional forms of ID. All forms of ID must agree.

Bosch Magnetos 80mm

March 25, 2023

magnetos
with Ø80 flywheel and Ø80 base plate

Contents:
1. Magnetos with Parts Specified
2. Parts for Sale

1. Magnetos

Bosch 0212-005-007 superseded by 0212 005 024
Hercules (Euro) ‘65-75 Sachs 504/1A, 1ADK, 1ANL, 1B, 1BS
2-wire 2-coil anticlockwise 6V 17W no brake light, int. ign. ground

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # description
01 1 0000 000 000 0212 005 007 magneto assembly
02 1 0283 114 001 2207 031 ??? stator assembly
03 1 0265 003 000 0000 000 000 rubber coil boot
04 1 0283 115 004 0000 000 000 flywheel says 0212 005 007
05 1 0644 011 000 0000 000 000 spring washer M8
06 1 2842 001 000 0000 000 000 flywheel nut M8 x 1.0
07 1 0260 121 001 0000 000 000 insulating hose
08 1 0965 133 001 0000 000 000 ignition cable-wire
09 1 0265 109 100 0000 000 000 rubber plug cap boot
10 1 0265 100 100 0000 000 000 spark plug cap Merit
14 1 0000 000 000 2207 031 000 stator plate bare (use #2)
15 2 0244 108 000 0000 000 000 washer 4.1 x 9 x 1.2
16 2 0240 106 100 0000 000 000 oval head screw M4 x 14
17 1 0265 052 003 1237 330 035 condenser, short solder type
18 1 2865 004 000 0000 000 000 condenser-to-points wire
19 1 2865 008 000 2201 005 007 lubricating felt
20 1 0645 101 001 0000 000 000 spring washer Ø12 convex side inward
21 1 0223 001 001 0000 000 000 points cam ring
22 5 0245 023 000 0000 000 000 lock washer M4
23 1 2840 012 000 0000 000 000 points screw fillister head M4
24 1 0283 116 000 2207 013 004 points, early type without wire
25 1 0299 059 007 0000 000 000 engine stop wire black
26 1 0299 059 009 0000 000 000 lighting wire yellow
27 1 0265 154 001 1214 210 ??? generator armature 17W
28 1 0265 153 000 2204 211 ??? ignition armature-transformer
29 4 0240 105 000 0000 000 000 coil screw fillister head M4 x 22

This flywheel has a separate points cam. The points are the early no-post type. The points pivot post is screwed into the stator base plate. Unscrew it to make the normal points fit.

Bosch 0212-005-011
Solo (Euro) Solo 236/237/254/255 engines
2-wire 2-coil clockwise 6V 17W no brake light, int. ign. ground

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # same illustration
28 1 0265 153 000 2204 211 ??? ignition armature-transformer
27 1 0265 154 00? 1214 210 ??? generator armature 17W

Bosch 0212-005-015
Indian MM5A Morini S5K2 engine
2-wire 2-coil clockwise 6V 18W no brake light, int. ign. ground

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # same illustration
28 1 0265 153 000 2204 211 ??? ignition armature-transformer
27 1 0265 154 00? 1214 210 ??? generator armature 18W

Bosch 0212-005-020
NVT (Euro) Morini MO-1 engine
Chiorda Commandos ’74 (Euro) Morini 4M
2-wire 2-coil anticlockwise 6V 17W no brake light, int. ign. ground

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # same illustration
28 1 0265 153 00? 2204 211 ??? ignition armature-transformer
27 1 0265 154 00? 1214 210 ??? generator armature 17W

Bosch 0212-005-021
Indian MM5A Morini S5K2 engine
Italjet Packaway Morini MO1?? engine
Malaguti Ronchino Morini S5T engine
2-wire 2-coil clockwise 6V 17W no brake light, int. ign. ground

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # same illustration
28 1 0265 153 000 2204 211 ??? ignition armature-transformer
27 1 0265 154 00? 1214 210 ??? generator armature 17W

This has same points and screw-post condenser as 0212-010-xxx types.

Bosch 0212-005-022
Casal Casal M140 engine
Garelli Eureka (Euro) Garelli H1 engine
2-wire 2-coil anticlockwise 6V 18W no brake light, int. ign. ground

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # same illustration
28 1 0265 153 000 2204 211 ??? ignition armature-transformer
27 1 0265 154 00? 1214 210 ??? generator armature 17W

Bosch 0212-005-024 replaces 0212 005 007
Hercules, others Sachs 504/1A, 1B engines
3-wire 2-coil anticlockwise 6V 18/5W internal ignition ground

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # description
01 1 0000 000 000 0212 005 024 magneto assembly
02 1 0283 114 004 2207 031 132 stator assembly
03 1 0265 003 000 0000 000 000 rubber cap-boot
04 1 0283 115 004 0000 000 000 flywheel
05 1 0644 011 000 0000 000 000 spring washer M8
06 1 2842 001 000 0000 000 000 hex nut M8 x 1.0
07 1 0260 121 001 0000 000 000 insulating hose
08 1 0965 133 001 0000 000 000 ignition cable-wire
09 1 0265 109 100 0000 000 000 rubber cap-boot
10 1 0265 100 100 0000 000 000 spark plug cap Merit
14 1 0000 000 000 2207 031 000 stator plate bare (use #2)
15 2 0244 108 000 0000 000 000 washer 4.1 x 9 x 1.2
16 2 0240 106 100 0000 000 000 plate screw oval head M4 x 14
17 1 0265 052 007 2207 330 041 condenser with screw post
19 1 2865 008 000 2201 005 007 lubricating felt
22 5 0245 023 000 0000 000 000 spring ring M4
23 1 2840 012 000 0000 000 000 points screw fillister head M4 x 10
24 1 0283 116 001 2207 013 005 points, with wire and eyelet
25 1 0299 059 007 0000 000 000 engine stop wire
26 1 0299 059 009 0000 000 000 lighting wire (yellow) for 15W head, 3W tail
26 1 0299 059 016 0000 000 000 brake light wire (gray) for 5W stop light
27 1 0265 154 004 1214 210 381 lighting generator armature 2-wire 18/5W
28 1 0265 153 001 2204 211 051 ignition armature-transformer
29 2 2840 002 002 0000 000 000 upper coil screw fillister head M4 x 20
30 2 0240 105 000 0000 000 000 lower coil screw fillister head M4 x 22

Bosch 0212-005-027
Italjet JC5C, M5C Minarelli G1-KS, G1R-KS engines
2-wire 2-coil clockwise 6V 17W no brake light, internal ignition ground

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # same illustration
28 1 0265 153 001 2204 211 051 ignition armature-transformer
27 1 0265 154 003 1214 210 ??? generator lighting armature 17W

These are 50cc kids off-road mini-cycles, with no lights. But there is a lights coil.

Bosch 0212-008-002
Hercules 74-75 P-1 early US models 20mph Sachs 504/1BS
3-wire 2-coil anticlockwise 6V 15-3/5W internal ignition ground

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # description
02 1 0283 114 003 2207 031 ??? stator assembly
03 1 0265 003 000 0000 000 000 rubber cap-boot
04 1 0283 115 004 0000 000 000 flywheel
05 1 0644 011 000 0000 000 000 spring washer M8
06 1 2842 001 000 0000 000 000 hex nut M8 x 1.0
07 1 0260 121 001 0000 000 000 insulating hose
08 1 0965 133 001 0000 000 000 ignition cable-wire
09 1 0265 109 100 0000 000 000 rubber cap-boot
10 1 0265 100 100 0000 000 000 spark plug cap Merit
14 1 0000 000 000 2207 031 000 stator plate bare (use #2)
15 2 0244 108 000 0000 000 000 plate screw washer 4.1 x 9 x 1.2
16 2 0240 106 100 0000 000 000 plate screw oval head M4 x 14
17 1 0265 052 006 2207 330 041 condenser M32 with screw post
19 1 2865 008 000 2201 005 007 lubricating felt
22 5 0245 023 000 0000 000 000 spring ring (lock washer) M4
23 1 2840 012 000 0000 000 000 points screw fillister head M4 x 10
24 1 0283 116 001 2207 013 005 points M31 with wire and eyelet
25 1 0299 059 007 0000 000 000 engine stop wire black
26 1 0299 059 009 0000 000 000 lighting wire yellow for 15W head, 3W tail light
26 1 0299 059 016 0000 000 000 brake light wire gray for 5W stop light
27 1 0265 154 004 1214 210 381 lighting generator armature 2-wire 18/5W
28 1 0265 153 001 2204 211 051 ignition armature-transformer
29 2 2840 002 002 0000 000 000 upper coil screw fillister head M4 x 20
30 2 0240 105 000 0000 000 000 lower coil screw fillister head M4 x 22

Bosch 0212-009-001
Morini engine
3-wire? 2-coil?

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # same illustration
27 1 0265 154 004 1214 210 381 lighting generator armature 2-wire 18/5W
28 1 0265 153 001 2204 211 051 ignition armature-transformer

Bosch 0212-010-001
Sparta, Kynast ‘76-80 US models Sachs 504/1A, 1B, 1D engine
Hercules ‘76-80 US models Sachs 504/1A, 1B, 1D engines
4-wire 3-coil anticlockwise 6V 27/10W internal ignition ground

# qty Sachs # Bosch part # description
01 1 0283 114 003 2207 031 160 stator assembly
1a 1 0000 000 000 2207 031 000 base plate Ø80 bare
02 1 0283 115 005 0000 000 000 flywheel says 0212-010-001
03 2  0244 108 000 0000 000 000 plate screw washer 4.1 x 9 x 1.2
04 2  0240 106 100 0000 000 000 plate screw oval head M4 x 14
05 1 0283 109 000 0212 940 008 ignition transformer (spark coil)
06 1  0265 150 000 1230 522 011 protective cap for spark plug wire
07 2  0265 151 000 2200 520 002 protective cap for wires
08 1  0265 152 000 0000 000 000 cable terminal
09 1 0665 016 101 0000 000 000 ignition cable (spark plug wire)
10 1 0265 109 100 0000 000 000 rubber cap-boot
11 1 0265 100 100 0000 000 000 spark plug cap Merit
14 1  0265 154 005 1214 210 459 ignition armature
15 2  0247 106 002 0000 000 000 bush (spacer tube) Ø8 x 8
16 1  0265 154 006 1214 210 462 generator armature 10W
17 1  0265 154 007 1214 210 463 generator armature 27W
18 5 0245 023 000 0000 000 000 spring ring (lock washer) M4
19 2 0240 122 000 0000 000 000 upper coil screw fillister head M4 x 28
20 2 0240 105 000 0000 000 000 lower coil screw fillister head M4 x 22
21 1  2840 012 000 0000 000 000 points screw fillister head M4 x 10
22 1 0283 116 001 2207 013 005 contact breaker assy (points)
23  1 0299 059 009 0000 000 000 lighting wire yellow
24  1 0299 059 021 0000 000 000 brake lighting wire green
25  1 0965 108 013 0000 000 000 brake lighting ground green & black
26 1 0965 108 001 0000 000 000 ignition wire blue
27 1 2865 008 000 2201 005 007 lubricating felt
28 1 0265 052 007 2207 330 041 condenser with screw post

Sachs 504 stators are 4-wire, 3-coil. Top rear coils is ignition (blue wire). Top front is brake light (green wire and green/black wire). Bottom coil is lights (yellow wire). The ignition and light coils are grounded internally. The brake light coil has an external ground. Because of the internal ground on the ignition source coil, the points continuity cannot be checked unless the source coil is disconnected. Bosch has provided a condenser with a screw-on nut with detachable eyelet connector wires, for testing the points for continuity. Otherwise, the ohms of the coil is almost the same as the ohms of the points. See Service/Electrical/Wiring Diagrams/Sparta Foxi for more Sparta wiring info.

Bosch 0212-010-002
Kreidler ’77-80 MP9 from #2409541 US models Kreidler 2-sp
3-wire 3-coil clockwise 6V 27/10W internal ignition ground

# qty Kreidler# Bosch part # same illustration
00 1 215.02.83 0212 010 002 magneto assembly
01 1 008.19.33 2207 031 161 stator assembly
1a 1 008.19.32 2207 031 000 base plate Ø80 bare
14 1 008.19.34 1214 210 459 ignition armature
17 1 008.19.36 1214 210 463 generator armature 27W
16 1 008.19.35 1214 210 450 generator armature 10W 1-wire

This Bosch 2207 031 161 Kreidler stator assembly is the same as a Bosch 2207 031 160 Sachs 504 stator, except for the 1-wire brake light coil. But the flywheel is very different.

Use a 2-wire brake light coil for a Sachs 504, as a substitute for a 1-wire Kreidler type. The additional green/black wire must be grounded to the frame. Because there were 10 times more Sachs 504’s sold in late 1970’s California than Kreidlers, the coils for Sachs are not as scarce.

Bosch 0212-010-003
Malaguti 1980 Commuter US models Morini M1
Italjet ’79-80 Packaway US models Morini M1
3-wire 2-coil anticlockwise 6V 27/15W external ignition ground

# qty MMI# Bosch part # description
000 1 29-0045B 0212 010 003 magneto assembly
094 1 000M-26B 0000 000 000 flywheel
095 1 000M-45B 2207 031 ??? stator assembly
096 1 000M-44B 2207 031 000 base plate bare
097 1 0000M-30 1214 210 461 generator armature 27W (yellow)
098 1 0000M-33 1214 210 460 ignition armature (blue & blu/blk)
102 5 0000M-16 0000 000 000 serrated washer
103 4  0000M-25 0000 000 000 coil screw fillister head M4 x 22
104 1 0000M-31 2207 013 005 points with wire and eyelet
105 1 0000M-32 2207 330 041 condenser with screw post
108 1 0000M-15 0000 000 000 points screw M4 x 10
109 1  00000000 0000 000 000 condenser cover cap
110 1  00000000 0000 000 000 condenser nut M3
111 1  0000M-37 2201 005 007 lubrication felt
112 2  00000000 0000 000 000 plate screw & washer M4 x 12
113 1  00000000 0000 000 000 flywheel plain washer M8
114 1  00000000 0000 000 000 flywheel serrated washer M8
115 1  00000000 0000 000 000 flywheel nut M8-1.00
172 2  00000000 2200 522 002 rubber boot for coil wire
173 1  00000000 1230 522 011 rubber boot for spark plug wire
174 1  00 H-79A  0212 940 008 ignition coil (external transformer)

Bosch 0212-010-004
Batavus ’78-80 US models Laura M56 engine
Trac ’82-85 US models Laura M56 Daelim remake
3-wire 2-coil clockwise 6V 27/15W external ignition ground

# qty Laura # Bosch part # same illustration
000 1 00 00 00 0212 010 004 magneto assembly
094 1 56 18 41 0000 000 000 flywheel
095 1 56 18 42 2207 031 164 stator assembly
096 1 00 00 00 2207 031 000 base plate Ø80 bare
098 1 56 18 45 1214 210 460 ignition armature (blue & blu/blk)
097 1 56 18 49 1214 210 461 generator armature 27W (yellow)
104 1 56 18 26 2207 013 005 points with wire and eyelet
105 1 56 18 30 2207 330 041 condenser with screw post

Bosch 0212-010-005
Safari ’87 MZV US models Minarelli V1-H engine (shown)
Motomarina ’85-88 Raven (some) US models Min. V1-L
Cimatti ’75-76 Chic US models Minarelli V1 engine
Carabela ’75-76 (some) US models Minarelli V1 engine
3-wire 2-coil clockwise 6V 27/15W external ignition ground

# qty MMI# Bosch part # description xx same illustration
000 1 0000 0212 010 005 magneto assembly
095 1 0000 2207 031 165 stator assembly
096 1 M-44B 2207 031 000 base plate Ø80 bare
098 1 M-33 1214 210 465 ignition armature (blue & blu/blk)
097 1 M-30 1214 210 467 generator armature 27W (yellow)
104 1 M-31 2207 013 005 points with wire and eyelet
105 1 M-32 2207 330 041 condenser with screw post

Bosch 0212-010-???
Kreidler ’76 MP9 to #2409540 US models Kreidler 2-sp
3-wire 2-coil clockwise 6V 27/15W external ignition ground

# qty Kreidler# Bosch part # same illustration
000 1 215.02.89 0212 010 ??? magneto assembly
095 1 008.19.53 2207 031 165 stator assembly
096 1 008.19.32 2207 031 000 base plate Ø80 bare
098 1 008.19.54 1214 210 465 ignition armature (blue & blu/blk)
097 1 008.19.55 1214 210 467 generator armature 27W (yellow)

Bosch 0212-010-009
Kreidler ’78-80 w/turn signals US models Kreidler 2-spd
4-wire 3-coil clockwise 6V 32/10W internal ignition ground

# qty Kreidler# Bosch part # see illustration for 001
00 1 215.02.90 0212 010 009 magneto assembly
01 1 000.00.00 2207 031 160 stator assembly
1a 1 008.19.32 2207 031 000 base plate Ø80 bare
14 1 008.19.34 1214 210 459 ignition armature 1-wire
17 1 008.19.36 1214 210 463 generator armature 27W 1-wire
16 1 008.19.?? 1214 210 462 generator armature 10W 2-wire

This 009 flywheel is the same as the more common 002. The lighting coils are different. The lights coil has more windings, and the brake light coil has two wires, green and green/black, instead of just one green wire. This provided power for recharging the turn signal battery without dimming the other lights. Read more in Wirings Gallery, scroll down to “K” Kreidler.

This 2-wire 10W generator armature 1214 210 462 is physically the same as a 2-wire one 1214 210 450, and can be a substitute. When changing from 1 to 2 wires, the additional green/black wire must be grounded to the frame.

2. Parts for Sale

Price colors: new, used. N/A or none means not available.

Flywheel Nut $2.00 nut M8-1.0, hex 13 (most)

Flywheel Puller $17.0 puller M22-1.50 thread

Bosch# 00000 Magnetos (∅80 rotor and ∅80 stator)
Bosch# 00 wires coils price internal ignition ground
0212 005 007 2 2 none Sachs superseded to 0212-005-024
0212 005 024 2 2 none Sachs internal transformer
0212 008 002 2 2 none Sachs internal transformer
0212 010 001 4 3 $180 Sachs-Sparta
0212 010 002 3 3 none Kreidler 215.02.83
Bosch# 00 wires coils price external ignition ground
0212 010 003 3 2 none Morini 29-0045B
0212 010 004 3 2 $210 Laura 56 18 ??
0212 010 005 3 2 $230 Minarelli 5360

Bosch# 00000 Points, compact type, aftermarket
2207 013 004 $11.0 points M31A no wire
2207 013 005 $15.0 points M31 with wire

2207 013 004
early no-wire

2207 013 005
late with wire

Bosch# 00000 Condensers (capacitors) aftermarket
1237 330 035 $15.0 condenser M32A ∅18 x 21 solder type
2217 330 041 none superseded to 2217 330 050
2217 330 050 $15.0 condenser M32 ∅18 x 21 screw post type

1237 330 035

2207 330 050

Eyelet Connectors (ring terminals)
60¢ each #8 hole, uninsulated, at left
50¢ each #6 hole, insulated, at middle
80¢ each #6 hole, uninsulated, at right

Condenser: 1950’s-60’s had solder type condensers and no-wire points. The points-to-condenser wire was sold separately. 1970’s-80’s had screw post type condensers and with-wire points. No more soldering. A solder-type condenser can be replaced with a screw post type by adding eyelet connectors to the three wire ends. The three wires that go to the condenser are from the points, from the source coil, and from the spark coil.

Bosch# 00000 Flywheels (rotors) 80 mm inner diameter
0283 115 004 $140 for 0212 005 024 Sachs 0283 115 004
0283 115 004 same for 0212 008 002 Sachs
0283 115 ??? see below 0212 010 001 Sachs 0283 115 005
0283 115 ??? $140 for 0212 010 002 Kreidler
0283 115 ??? none for 0212 010 003 Morini M26B
0283 115 ??? $110 for 0212 010 004 Laura 56 18 41
0283 115 ??? $130 for 0212 010 005 Minarelli

Bosch# 00000 Stator base plate ∅80 outer diameter 2-slot
2207 031 000 $40.0 Minarelli M-44B bare, 2-screw

The first 7 digits of the part number 2207 031 000 are molded into all plates. When the points, condenser and coils are added the last 3 digits are stamped on. The first 7 digits identify the stator base plate, and the last 3 digits identify the stator assembly.

Bosch# 00000 Stators 80 o.d. for 80 i.d. flywheel
Bosch# 00 wires coils price internal ignition ground
2207 031 ??? 2 2 none for 0212 005 007 Sachs 0283 114 001
2207 031 ??? 2 2 none for 0212 008 002 Sachs 0283 114 003
2207 031 132 2 2 none for 0212 005 024 Sachs 0283 114 004
2207 031 160 4 3 $130 for 0212 010 001 Sachs 0283 114 005
2207 031 161 3 3 $170 for 0212 010 002 Kreidler 81933 use 160
Bosch# 00 wires coils price external ignition ground
2207 031 ??? 3 2 none for 0212 010 003 Morini M-45B use 164
2207 031 164 3 2 $150 for 0212 010 004 Laura 56 18 42
2207 031 165 3 2 $170 for 0212 010 005 Minarelli use 164

2207 031 160 stators available are #1,2,3 and 5.

These all have no connectors on the wire ends. They attach to a screw-terminal strip, instead of plugging in.
These have good wires. But some cost $10-$20 less, because the wires are cut or damaged.
Points are not worn out. They are cleaned, prepared and tested. Condenser is good, as are coils and wires.

Bosch# 00000 Ignition armatures (source coils) 47 hole spacing
1214 210 459 $80 Sachs 0265 154 005 1-wire
1214 210 460 $90 Morini M-33 2-wire

1214-210-459

1214-210-460

Bosch# 00000 Lighting armatures (source coils) 47 hole spacing
1214 210 ??? none Sachs 0265 154 001 17W 1-wire
1214 210 381 none Sachs 0265 154 004 18/5W 2-wire
1214 210 450 none Kreidler 008.19.35 10W 1-wire use 1214 210 462
1214 210 461 $65.0 Morini M-30 27W 1-wire thicker windings
1214 210 462 $50.0 Sachs 0265 154 006 10W 2-wire
1214 210 463 $45.0 Sachs 0265 154 007 27W 1-wire thinner windings

1214-210-461

1214-210-462

1214-210-463

Bosch# 00000 Armature-Transformers (spark coils) 47 holes
2204 211 051 $45.0 Sachs 0265 153 000 generic

Bosch# 00000 Coil Screws for ∅80 magnetos
1213 429 ??? $0.60 Sachs 2840 002 002 M4 x 20 phillips
1213 429 ??? none Sachs 0240 105 000 M4 x 22 phillips use 23
1213 429 ??? $0.50 M4 x 23 slot
1213 429 ??? $0.60 Sachs 0240 122 000 M4 x 28 phillips

Bosch# 00000 Bushings (spacer tubes) for ∅80 magnetos
0000 000 000 $2.00 Sachs 0247 106 002 bush (spacer tube) Ø8 x 8

0212 010 001 flywheels: Several individually numbered Bosch magneto flywheels for Sachs 504 engines are offered for sale below. The focus is on the condition of the surface of the points cam. All of the flywheels are otherwise straight and with a good woodruff key groove. The flywheel rotates counter clockwise, viewed from it’s outer facing side. Two views, 180 degrees apart, of each flywheel are shown below. The “A” side is the upwards ramp that opens the points. This is where the most wear occurs, and where the most smoothness and precision are needed, or else the points rubbing block wears down prematurely. The “B” side shows most of the key groove. Any rust has not been cleaned off yet, but is not a problem, other than rust on the outside surface of the points cam.

Flywheel 1: N/A The cam has been cleaned. Rust pits visible at the top of the up ramp. Click to enlarge.

Flywheel 2: $80 The cam has been cleaned. Never mind the orange rust. The cam surface is all good on the outboard side of the points rubbing block lane. But it has some pitting near the top of the up ramp on the inboard side of the “lane”.

Flywheel 3: N/A The cam has been cleaned, but needs extensive sanding and polishing. It’s rusted bad.

Flywheel 4: N/A The B side has not been wiped with steel wool yet. The A side has rust pits all across the points “lane”. There is one original smooth area, that is dark from a reflection. The whole cam would need to be grinded down by the same amount to preserve it’s shape. This can be done with little high-speed sanding and polishing drums, but it’s difficult and it comes out a little (or a lot) lumpy.

Flywheel 5: $60 It has not been cleaned yet. Looks like it would “clean up” good, with steel wool, then emery cloth(s) and polishing. Side A shows pits in the middle of the plateau. So the whole cam has to be sanded down evenly, then polished smooth.

Flywheel 6: N/A It has not been cleaned. You can see it’s a new one.

Flywheel 7 N/A: It has not been wiped with steel wool yet. Side A is rusty, but it does not look that deep. It should be cleaned and inspected then. Side B is fine. The orange areas are just surface “stains”, not pits.

Flywheel 8: N/A It has not been cleaned. Yet it’s clean and almost new. Notice side A where the points rub the hardest against the cam, where it’s shiny and dark (a reflection). That is the (opening) up ramp and the start of the plateau. Side B has no signs of wear, meaning that the points don’t rub very hard in that area.

Flywheel 9: N/A not shown, very clean almost new

Flywheel 10: $150 not shown, new and fresh

Ducati and ZEM Magnetos

March 20, 2023

1. Ducati magnetos on Tomos

2. Ducati magnetos on Minarelli

3. Ducati magnetos on other makes

1. Ducati Magnetos on Tomos

Tomos mopeds have been equipped with Ducati, ZEM, CEV, Iskra, AET and other magnetos. They are all included in IDM-Iskra-AET Magnetos. ZEM is a remake or a rename of Ducati (DEM Ducati Elettrotecnica Microfarad).

Ducati or ZEM 31.17.11 magneto-generator is a 2-wire internal ignition ground type for countries that do not require a brake light.

Ducati or ZEM 31.17.30 magneto-generator is a 3-wire external ignition ground type for countries like the US that require a brake light. Like many other US-model moped magnetos, the brake light is powered by the ignition source coil ground. This was to meet the US DOT requirement that the headlight not get dim when the brake light was on. The two-coil generator has three outputs, the black ignition wire from the points to the spark coil, the blue ignition ground wire that is grounded through the brake light or brake light switches, and the yellow light wire the provides 6V AC 30 watts for light and horn.

Tomos US models in 1974 to 1985 had this type of magneto, with the brake light switches wired in series and normally closed when installed. If you removed the tail light and squeeze either brake, the engine would die. Starting in 1986 Tomos improved the electrical system with a solid-state-regulated single lighting yellow wire, a ignition black wire, and an internal ignition ground. So the engine never dies, on a 1986 and later Tomos with the 2-wire Iskra magneto, when the tail light wires are unplugged and the brake is applied. When the magneto type changed from 1985 to 86, the wiring also changed.

These Ducati and ZEM complete magnetos, with 94mm ID flywheel and 90mm 3-bolt stator, will interchange with 90mm ID flywheel and 90mm 3-bolt stator Bosch complete magnetos and other Bosch compatibles like Iskra, except for the width and position of the key groove that determines the ignition timing.

These are counterclockwise ⇐left rotation. Points are M14 CEV type “right hand” (the brown part looks like your right hand sideways with fingers bent). The Ducati base plate has a 17.9mm condenser hole instead of 18.0. So the condenser is MMI# M17T which is the same as a modern M17. Source coils have M4 x 20 screws with 57 mm spacing.

Ducati# 0 rot id od od wires V w Tomos engines
magneto# flywheel# stator assy# base plate# points# condenser#

31.17.11 ⇐94 116 90 ♦♦ 6V 30/10 Tomos A3-EU ’74-85?
000.000 0 000.000 0 000.000 0 213.738 0 221.309 0 221.310

31.17.30 ⇐94 116 90 ♦♦♦ 6V 30/10 Tomos A3-US ’74-85 Ducati
213.322 0 213.737 0 000.000 0 213.738 0 221.309 0 221.310

31.17.30 ⇐94 116 90 ♦♦♦ 6V 30/10 Tomos A3-US ’83-85 ZEM
213.322 0 213.737 0 000.000 0 213.738 0 221.309 0 221.310

Tomos# price Parts for Sale
700.334 $19.0 flywheel puller M26-1.5 thread
All parts are listed in Tomos A3 Engine Parts section 7c.

2. Ducati Magnetos on Minarelli

Ducati magnetos were on many 1950’s to 1980’s Minarelli engines, along with CEV and Bosch.

Oldest ones had an internal spark coil, where the spark plug wire comes out of the engine. Newest ones had an external spark coil with a spark plug wire coming out of it. In between oldest and newest was both types.

Wires: In the list below the wires column has symbols. ♦ is a black magneto wire for lights, ♦ is a red magneto wire for ignition, o is a thick magneto wire for an internal spark coil, blank is no thick magneto wire for an external spark coil.

Some bike models with brake lights or batteries have a third magneto wire ♦ purple. The third wire can be from the ignition source coil (external ignition ground), or from the lighting coil as an additional output (internal ignition ground).

This is a Ducati 31.12.38 magneto from a 1974 Indian ME76, Minarelli P6-70 engine, USA street model with a brake light. It has 3 output wires. Red wire is ignition (points to spark coil). Black wire is power for lights. Purple wire is power for the brake light (or battery charging if there is a battery).

Ducati# 0 rot id od od wires V w Minarelli engines
magneto# ignition source coil type, spark coil type
flywheel# stator assy# base plate# points# condenser#
ign. coil# lights coil#

31.03.61 ⇒80 103 80 o♦♦ 6V 18 Minarelli V1
82.0001.9 internal ignition ground, internal spark coil
82.0201.6 82.0025.6 82.0445.6 82.0011.6 82.0134.6
07.0304.6 07.0404.6

31.03.73 ⇒80 103 80 ♦♦ 6V 18 Minarelli V1 G1R
82.0029.9 internal ignition ground, external spark coil
82.0229.6 82.0029.6 82.0445.6 82.0011.6 82.0134.6
07.0108.6 07.0404.6

31.02.30 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 18 Minarelli P3 P4S P4V W3
82.0012.9 =912301? =M16-12? int ign gnd, ext spark coil
82.0212.6 82.0018.6 82.0440.6 82.0006.6 82.0132.6
07.0102.6 07.0411.6

31.02.32 ⇐80 110 94 o♦ 0V 00 Minarelli P4 kit
=M42-208 internal ignition ground
82.0000.6 82.0000.6 82.0440.6 82.0006.6 82.0132.6

31.02.37 ⇐80 110 94 o♦♦ 6V 18 Minarelli P4 kit
=M42-208 internal ignition ground
82.0000.6 82.0000.6 82.0440.6 82.0006.6 82.0132.6

31.02.39 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 18 P4 P4V P4E P6 P6/4 P6R W3
82.0014.9 =912401 internal ign. ground, ext. spark coil
82.0214.6 82.0018.6 82.0440.6 82.0006.6 82.0132.6
07.0102.6 07.0411.6

31.02.74 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 18 Minarelli P6 potenza?
82.0015.9 internal ignition ground, external spark coil
82.0215.6 82.0019.6 82.0440.6 82.0006.6 82.0132.6
07.0102.6 07.0412.6

31.12.38 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦♦ 6V 25/10 Minarelli P4S-US P6CS-US
82.0000.9 internal ignition ground, external spark coil
82.0000.6 82.0000.6 82.0440.6 82.0006.6 82.0132.6

31.02.77 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 18? Minarelli P4? P6?
82.0031.9 internal ignition ground, external spark coil
82.0231.6 82.0036.6 82.0440.6 82.0006.6 82.0132.6
07.0116.6 07.0441.6?

31.12.54 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 00 Minarelli P3? W3?
82.0046.9 internal ignition ground, external spark coil
82.0246.6 82.0050.6 82.0440.6 82.0006.6 82.0132.6

31.12.37 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 00 Minarelli P4? P6?
82.0045.9 internal ignition ground, external spark coil
82.0245.6 82.0047.6 82.0440.6 82.0006.6 82.0132.6
07.0127.6 07.0441.6

31.12.50 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 30/10? Minarelli 125#2 ’74 Indian ME125

31.12.59 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 00 Minarelli P3? W3? P4? P6?
82.0052.9 internal ignition ground, external spark coil
82.0252.6 82.0046.6 82.0440.6 82.0006.6 82.0132.6
07.0126.6 07.0441.6

31.11.37 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 00 P4-P6 ’81 Fantic Cabalero
82.0058.9 internal ignition ground, external spark coil

Minarelli# price Parts for Sale.
05.0080.0 $19.0 flywheel puller M19-1.0 thread
49.0815.6 none points screw M4x6 small head slot use M4x8
49.0815.6 $2.50 points screw M4x8 small head phillips
49.0816.6 $0.70 coil screw M4x20 slot
82.0006.6 $16.0 points M14 for left rotation
82.0011.6 $16.0 points M18 for right rotation
82.0132.6 $15.0 condenser ∅17.9 M17T = modern M17
82.0134.6 none condenser ∅17.9? no mount flange
82.0181.6 none greasing felt
82.0440.6 none base plate bare ∅94
82.0445.6 none base plate bare ∅80

3. Ducati Magnetos on other makes

Ducati# 0 rot id od od wires V w Other engines
magneto# ignition source coil type, spark coil type

31.03.38 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 18? unknown app.

31.03.47 ⇐80 110 94 ♦♦ 6V 18? Morini UC4 50
29-0000 internal ignition ground, external spark coil

IDM, Iskra, AET Magnetos

March 20, 2023

Contents: 1. IDM 2. Iskra-AET 3. Price list 4. Service info

1. IDM

Left, IDM 6411 (Tomos 229.459) 90mm ID flywheel, CDI ignition
Right, IDM 6436 (Tomos 221.005) 80mm ID flywheel, points ignition

IDM magnetos, made in Italy, are on some early-to-mid-1990’s Tomos. They are CEV-compatible, and have the same appearance.

The IDM 6411 magneto has a reputation of being faulty. The CDI ignition looses spark. When that happens, both the CDI-coil unit and the magneto assembly must be replaced.

IDM 6411 (CDI) is on some 1993-95 Tomos models, especially 1993-94 Sprint. Three other magnetos were used during this period, IDM 6436 (points), Iskra 1217 (points), and AET 11.160.053 (CDI).

AET

Iskra

2. Iskra-AET

Iskra magnetos are made in Slovenia (which was part of Yugoslavia before 1991). They are original equipment on most Tomos mopeds from 1989 to 2007. After about 1993 Iskra magnetos were labeled AET. Iskra electric motors, AET electric equipment and Tomos mopeds were (or are) divisions of Hidria, a family of Slovenian manufacturing companies. Iskra-AET magnetos have the AET logo stamped on the flywheel, and the Iskra name cast into the back side of the stator base plate. So they can be called by either name.

Tomos mopeds, USA models, had many magnetos, but many were interchangeable. The magneto brands Ducati, ZEM, CEV, IDM, and Iskra-AET, each had different versions. They are all listed below, in order of VIN code and year range.

This is an applications and identification list. None are for sale. Below this list is a separate list of Tomos magnetos for sale.

Text colors: no turn signals, turn signals, points magneto, CDI magneto
VIN code: digits 5 and 6 of the Vehicle Identification Number
size: Ø90 is 90 mm inner diameter flywheel, Ø80 is 80 mm. (all base plates are 90 mm diameter)

VIN year 0 Tomos model name xxxxxxxx xxxx magneto xxxx xxxxx lighting
code range Tomos model name xxxxxxxx xx make model size wires volts watts Tomos #

Tomos 213.322
Ducati 31.17.30

00  1975-76 Automatic A3 x xxxxxx (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire 6V 40W  211.956
00  1977-78 A3SP  xxxxxxxx xxxXX (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire 6V 40W  213.322
00  1977-78 A3GM  xxxXxxx xXxXX (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire 6V 40W  213.322
00  1977-78 A3SL  xxxxxxxx xxxXX (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire 6V 40W  213.322
00  1979-80 A3 Bullet SP xxxxx xxxx (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire 6V 40W  213.322
00  1979-80 A3 Bullet GM xXXx xxxx (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire 6V 40W  213.322
00  1979-80 A3 Bullet SL xxxxx xxxx (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire 6V 40W  213.322

Tomos 213.322
ZEM 31.17.30

01 1981-83 A3 Bullet SP xxxxx xxxx (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire  6V 40W  213.322
01 1983-85 A3 Bullet SP xxxxx xxxx (pedal) ZEM   xxx Ø94 3-wire  6V 40W  213.322
01 1985-86 A3 Bullet SP xxxxx xxxx (pedal) CEV 6951 Ø94 3-w 6V 28/10W  213.322
02 1981-83 A3 Bullet GM xXXx xxxx (pedal) Ducati xx Ø94 3-wire  6V 40W  213.322
02 1983-85 A3 Bullet GM xXXx xxxx (pedal) ZEM  xxx Ø94 3-wire  6V 40W  213.322
02 1985-86 A3 Bullet GM xXXx xxxx (pedal) CEV 6951 Ø94 3-w 6V 28/10W  213.322
03 1981-83 A3 Bullet SL xxxxx xxxx (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire  6V 40W  213.322
03 1983-85 A3 Bullet SL xxxxx xxxx (pedal) ZEM   xxx Ø94 3-wire  6V 40W  213.322
03 1985-86 A3 Bullet SL xxxxx xxxx (pedal) CEV 6951 Ø94 3-w 6V 28/10W  213.322

Tomos 213.322
CEV 6951

04 1981-81 A3 Silver Bullet SP xmag (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire  6V 40W  213.322
05 1981-81 A3 Silver Bullet GM xmag (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire  6V 40W  213.322
07  1981-83 A3 Silver Bullet SP spoke (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire 06V 40W  213.322
08 1981-83 A3 Silver Bullet SP 5star (pedal) Ducati xxx Ø94 3-wire 06V 40W 213.322
08 1983-85 A3 Silver Bullet SP 5star (pedal) ZEM  xxxx Ø94 3-wire 06V 40W 213.322
08 1985-86 A3 Silver Bullet SP 5star (pedal) CEV 6951 91.5 3-w 6V 28/10W  213.322
09 1981-83 A3 Silver Bullet GM 5star (pedal) Ducati xx Ø94 3-wire 06V 40W 213.322
09 1983-85 A3 Silver Bullet GM 5star (pedal) ZEM  xxxx Ø94 3-wire 06V 40W 213.322
09 1985-86 A3 Silver Bullet GM 5star (pedal) CEV 6951 91.5 3-w 6V 28/10W  213.322
11 1985-86 A3 Golden Bullet xxxxxx (pedal) CEV 6951 91.5 3-w 6V 28/10W  213.322

Tomos 222.502
CEV 6418

12 1986-88 A3 Bullet xxxxx xxxXxx (pedal) CEV 6418 Ø80 3-wire 12V 28W  222.502
13 1986-88 A3 Golden Bullet xxxxxx (pedal) CEV 6436 Ø80 2-wire 12V 75W  222.303
14 1987-88 A3 Bullet TT xxxx xxxXx (pedal) CEV 6418 Ø80 3-wire 12V 28W  222.502
??  1987-88 A3 Bullet TT xxxx xxxxxx (kick) CEV 6418 Ø80 3-wire 12V 28W  222.502
?? 1987-88 A3 Golden Bullet TT xxxx   (kick) CEV 6436 Ø80 2-wire 12V 75W  222.303
19 1987-88 A3 Golden Bullet TT xXX (pedal) CEV 6436 Ø80 2-wire 12V 75W  222.303
20 1987-88 A3-01 Bullet xxxx xxxxx (pedal) CEV 6418 Ø80 3-wire 12V 28W  222.502

222.010 227.090
Iskra 1215 Iskra 1221

?? 1989-91 A3 Golden Bullet xxXxxx (kick) Iskra 1215 Ø90 2-wire 12V 50W  222.010
??  1989-91 A3 Golden Bullet xxxxx (pedal) Iskra 1215 Ø90 2-wire 12V 50W  222.010
26 1989-90 A3 Bullet xxxxx xxxxxxx (kick) Iskra 1221 Ø90 3w 12V 28/10W  227.090
27 1989-91 A3 Golden Bullet TTLX (kick) Iskra 1215 Ø90 2-wire 12V 50W  222.010
28 1989-91 A3 Bullet TT xxxxxxxxxx (kick) Iskra 1221 Ø90 3w 12V 28/10W  227.090
29 1989-90 A3 Bullet xxxx xxxxxX (pedal) Iskra 1221 Ø90 3w 12V 28/10W  227.090
30 1989-91 A3 Golden Bullet TTLX   (pedal) Iskra 1215 Ø90 2-wire 12V 50W  222.010
31 1989-91 A3 Bullet TT xxxxx xxx (pedal) Iskra 1215 Ø90 2-wire 12V 50W  222.010
33 1989-91 A3 Bullet TS xxxxxxxxx (pedal) Iskra 1215 Ø90 2-wire 12V 50W  222.010

222.704
Iskra-AET 1217

34  1992-93 A35 Bullet  xxxxxxxxxx (pedal) Iskra 1217 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W  222.704
35  1992-93 A35 Bullet TT  xxxxXxX (pedal) Iskra 1217 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W  222.704
36  1992-93 A35 Colibri  xxxxxxxxx  (pedal) Iskra 1217 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W  222.704
37  1992-93 A35 Colibri  xxxxxxXXXX (kick) Iskra 1217 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W  222.704
38  1992-93 A35 Golden BulletXXXX (pedal) Iskra 1217 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W  222.704
39  1992-93 A35 Golden Bullet TTLX (pedal) Iskra 1217 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W  222.704
40  1992-93 A35 Bullet TT xx xxXXXX (kick) Iskra 1217 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W  222.704
41  1992-93 A35 Golden Bullet TTLX (kick) Iskra 1217 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W  222.704

229.469 221.005
IDM 6411 IDM 6436

42  1993-94 A35 Sprint x (pedal) IDM 6436 Ø80 221.005 x or IDM 6411 Ø90 229.469
42  1994-95 A35 Sprint x (pedal) IDM 6436 221.005 or Iskra 222.704 or AET 229.521
43  1993-94 A35 Sprint  xxx (kick) IDM 6436 Ø80 221.005 x or IDM 6411 Ø90 229.469
43  1994-95 A35 Sprint  xxx (kick) IDM 6436 221.005 or Iskra 222.704 or AET 229.521
44  1994-95 A35 Targa wht/grn(p) IDM 6436 221.005 or Iskra 222.704 or AET 229.521
45  1994-95 A35 Targa wht/red(p) IDM 6436 221.005 or Iskra 222.704 or AET 229.521
46  1994-95 A35 Targa LX (pedal) IDM 6436 221.005 or Iskra 222.704 or AET 229.521
47  1994-95 A35 Targa wht/grn(k) IDM 6436 221.005 or Iskra 222.704 or AET 229.521
48  1994-95 A35 Targa LX  x(kick) IDM 6436 221.005 or Iskra 222.704 or AET 229.521
49  1994-95 A35 Targa wht/red(k) IDM 6436 221.005 or Iskra 222.704 or AET 229.521

56 1994-95 A35 Sprint TT (pedal) IDM 6436 221.005 or Iskra 222.704 or AET 229.521
58 1994-95 A35 Sprint TT (kick) IDM 6436 221.005 or Iskra 222.704 or AET 229.521

Tomos 229.444
AET 11.160.052

59 1995-95 A35 Colibri XxXx (pedal) Iskra 1217 xx Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W 222.704

61 1997-98 A35 TX50 x xxxXx (kick) AET 11.160.052 Ø90 2-wire 12V 50W 229.444
61 1998-02 A35 Super Tom xxx (kick) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 230.327
61 2003-06 A35 MC50 series X (kick) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 232.976

In 1998 the 230.327 magneto changed to a “4-star” or “plus sign” design. 3 of the 4 coils were for lighting, connected in series, and one coil was for ignition. So the output wires did not change. The base plate screws changed, from three 4 mm, to two 5 mm.
1974-1997 engine cases had only mounts for 3-M4-screw stator plates.
1998-later engine cases had mounts for both 2-M5 and 3-M4-screw base plates.

Tomos 229.521
AET 11.160.053

61 1996-97 A35 Sprint xxxXx (pedal) IDM 6411  xxx Ø90 2-wire 12V 50W 229.459
61 1998-02 A35 Sprint xxxXx (pedal) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 230.327
61 2003-06 A35 Sprint xxxXx (pedal) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 232.976
62  1996-97 A35 Targa LX xxx (pedal) AET 11.160.053 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W 229.521
62  1998-02 A35 Targa LX xxx (pedal) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 230.327
62  2003-06 A35 Tomos LX xx (pedal) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 232.976
62  2005-05 A35 LX Limited xX (pedal) AET 11.170.017 Ø80 3-wire 12V 80W 230.842

In 2003 the engine case, on all models, became electric-start-ready. The magneto did not change, but the magneto part number did because the rubber grommet for the wires changed.
The 232.976 is a 230.327 with a different grommet.

230.327 and 232.976
AET 11.170.001

63  1996-97 A35 Targa xxxxXx (pedal) AET 11.160.053 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W 229.521
63  1998-02 A35 Targa xxxXxx (pedal) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 230.327
63  2003-04 A35 Tomos  Xxxxx (pedal) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 232.976
63  2005-06 A35 ST xxxxXxxxx (pedal) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 232.976
64  1996-97 A35 Sprint xXxxXx (kick) IDM 6411  xxx Ø90 2-wire 12V 50W 229.459
64  1998-02 A35 Sprint xXxxXx (kick) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 230.327
64  2003-06 A35 Sprint xXxxXx (kick) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 232.976
65  1996-97 A35 Targa LX xxxx (kick) AET 11.160.053 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W 229.521
65  1998-02 A35 Targa LX xxxx (kick) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 230.327
65  2003-06 A35 Tomos LX xxx (kick) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 232.976
65  2005-05 A35 LX Limited xXx (kick) AET 11.170.017 Ø80 3-wire 12V 80W 230.842
66  1996-97 A35 Targa  xxxxXxx (kick) AET 11.160.053 Ø90 2-wire 12V 80W 229.521
66  1998-02 A35 Targa  xxxxxXx (kick) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 230.327
66  2003-04 A35 Tomos  xxxxXx (kick) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 232.976
66  2005-06 A35 ST xxxxxxxxXx (kick) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 232.976

Tomos 230.842
AET 11.170.017

69 1998-99 A35 TT ClassicXxx (pedal) AET 11.170.001 Ø80 2-wire 12V 80W 230.327

In 2001-02 the A35 Revival was the first Tomos with electric start. The 230.842 magneto was the same as a 230.327, except it had an extra wire for battery charging, and a large flat gear on top, for electric starting.

72 2001-03 A35 RevivalXxXxx (pedal) AET 11.170.017 Ø80 3-wire 12V 80W 230.842
75 2001-03 A35 RevivalXxXxxx (kick) AET 11.170.017 Ø80 3-wire 12V 80W 230.842

In 2004-05 the A55 engine came out. It was cleaner and more efficient, to meet new 2006 EPA pollution standards. The A55 had a different magneto with an external pulser, which added two more wires.

Tomos 233.720
AET 11.170.026

76  2006-08 A55 Arrow-RXXxxx (kick) AET 11.170.026 Ø80 5-wire 12V 80W 233.720
77  2006-08 A55 Arrow-RXXxxx(pedal) AET 11.170.026 Ø80 5-wire 12V 80W 233.720
78  2005-05 A55 ArrowXxxXxxx(pedal) AET 11.170.027 Ø80 4-wire 12V 80W 233.735
79  2005-09 A55 Streetmate Xx  (kick) AET 11.170.026 Ø80 5-wire 12V 80W 233.720
79  2008-09 A55 Streetmate-R (pedal) AET 11.170.026 Ø80 5-wire 12V 80W 233.720
79  2010-13 A55 Streetmate Xx  (kick) Kinetic 000000  Ø80 5-wire 12V 60W 233.720
80  2005-09 A55 Streetmate xx(pedal) AET 11.170.026 Ø80 5-wire 12V 80W 233.720
80  2010-13 A55 Streetmate xx(pedal) Kinetic 000000  Ø80 5-wire 12V 60W 233.720
81  2004-09 A55 Revival TS xxx  (kick) AET 11.170.026 Ø80 5-wire 12V 80W 233.720
82  2004-09 A55 Revival TS xx (pedal) AET 11.170.026 Ø80 5-wire 12V 80W 233.720

From 2004 to 2009, the A55 engine had AET 11.170.017 for electric start models, and AET 11.170.027 for non-electric start models. From 2010 to 2013 all models had electric-start type magnetos, with a ring gear and extra wire. But they were made by Kinetic and said 12V 60W.

Tomos 233.735
AET 11.170.027

87  2007-09 A55 SprintXxxxxxx  (kick) AET 11.170.027 Ø80 4-wire 12V 80W 233.735
87  2010-13 A55 SprintXxxxxxx  (kick) Kinetic 0000000 Ø80 5-wire 12V 60W 233.720
88  2007-09 A55 SprintXxxXxx (pedal) AET 11.170.027 Ø80 4-wire 12V 80W 233.735
88  2010-13 A55 SprintXxxXxx (pedal) Kinetic 0000000 Ø80 5-wire 12V 60W 233.720
89  2007-09 A55 STXxxxxxxxxx  (kick) AET 11.170.027 Ø80 4-wire 12V 80W 233.735
89  2010-13 A55 STXxxxxxxxxx  (kick) Kinetic 0000000 Ø80 5-wire 12V 60W 233.720
90  2007-09 A55 STXxxxxxXxx (pedal) AET 11.170.027 Ø80 4-wire 12V 80W 233.735
90  2010-13 A55 STXxxxxxXxx (pedal) Kinetic 0000000 Ø80 5-wire 12V 60W 233.720
91  2007-09 A55 LXXxxxxxxxxx  (kick) AET 11.170.027 Ø80 4-wire 12V 80W 233.735
91  2010-13 A55 LXXxxxxxxxxx  (kick) Kinetic 0000000 Ø80 5-wire 12V 60W 233.720
92  2007-09 A55 LXXxxxxxXxx (pedal) AET 11.170.027 Ø80 4-wire 12V 80W 233.735
92  2010-13 A55 LXXxxxxxXxx (pedal) Kinetic 0000000 Ø80 5-wire 12V 60W 233.720

Tomos 233.720
Kinetic

93 2010-13 A55 Streetmate-R x(kick) Kinetic 000000 Ø80 5-wire 12V 60W 233.720
94 2010-13 A55 Streetmate-R (pedal) Kinetic 000000 Ø80 5-wire 12V 60W 233.720

In 2014 new US EPA air pollution standards came out. That contributed to Tomos’s (actually Hidria’s) decision to quit selling mopeds in the USA in 2013. 37 years of continuous US-model moped production, 1976-2013, came to an end. Tomos continued moped production for the European market.

In 2017 new US-model Tomos mopeds were once again being sold.

3. Price List with Specifications

Here are the Tomos magnetos listed by Tomos part number.

Wires: ♦ = ignition, ♦ = lights, ♦ = brake light (external ignition ground), ♦ = battery charging, ♦◊ = CDI pulser
Text colors: used, new, N/A = not available, points magneto, CDI magneto

price range Tomos # magneto xxx lights power wires points cond fits on original flywheel stator
price range Tomos # magneto xxx lights power wires points cond. years on yrs Tomos# Tomos#

see Ducati   213.322 Ducati 31.17.30 06V 30/10W ♦♦♦♦◊ M14x M17 1974-13 1976-82 213.737 213.738
$$$$$  N/A 213.322 ZEM  031.17.30 06V 30/10W ♦♦♦♦◊ M14x M17 1974-13 1983-85 213.737 213.738
see CEVmag 213.322 CEV 6951 xxxx  06V 28/10W ♦♦♦♦◊ M14x M17 1974-13 1985-86 213.737 213.738
$$$$-$230 221.005 IDM 6436 xxxx 12V 75W W ♦♦♦♦◊ M14x M17 1974-13 1993-95 221.311 221.312
$$$$$  N/A 222.010 Iskra 1215 xXx 12V 50W W ♦♦♦◊♦ M19B M32 1974-13 1989-91 223.176 223.168
see CEVmag 222.303 CEV 6436 xxxx  12V 75W W ♦♦♦◊♦ M14x M17 1974-13 1986-88 221.738 221.737
see CEVmag 222.502 CEV 6418 xxxx  12V 28/10W ♦♦♦♦◊ M14x M17 1974-13 1986-88 222.770 222.769
$$$$$  N/A 222.704 Iskra 1217 xXx 12V 80W W ♦♦♦◊♦ M19B M32 1974-13 1992-95 223.173 223.171
$$$$$  N/A 227.090 Iskra 1221 xXx 12V 28/10W ♦♦♦◊♦ M19B M32 1974-13 1989-91 227.086 227.087
$$$$$  N/A 229.444 AET 11.160.052 12V 50W W ♦♦♦◊♦ none none 1974-13 1997-98
$$$$$  N/A 229.469 IDM 6411 xxxx  12V 50W W ♦♦♦◊♦ none none 1974-13 1993-97 229.472 221.471
$$$$$  N/A 229.521 AET 11.160.053 12V 80W W ♦♦♦◊♦ none none 1974-13 1994-97 229.527 229.526
$$$$-$180 230.327 AET 11.170.001 12V 80W W ♦♦♦◊♦ none none 1998-13 1998-02 230.329 230.328
$$$$-$180 230.842 AET 11.170.017 12V 80W W ♦♦♦♦◊ none none 1998-13 2001-05 not sold separate
$$$$$  N/A 230.842 India M1100000 12V 80W W ♦♦♦♦◊ none none 1998-13 non-US  not sold separate
$$$$-$180 232.976 AET 11.170.001 12V 80W W ♦♦♦◊♦ none none 1998-13 2003-06 not sold separate
$$$$$  N/A 233.720 AET 11.170.026 12V 80W W ♦♦♦◊♦ none none 2003-13 2004-09 not sold separate
$$$$$  N/A 233.735 AET 11.170.027 12V 80W W ♦♦◊♦♦ none none 2003-13 2005-09 not sold separate
$$$$$  N/A 233.735 India Kinetic xx 12V 60W W ♦♦♦◊♦ none none 2003-13 2010-13 not sold separate

Engine cases: You don’t have to know the year or model to know what magneto(s) fit at particular Tomos. You only have to know what left-side engine case it has. The stator plate has to fit the engine case, and the flywheel has to fit the crank.

From 1974 to 1997 there were three M4-0.7 thread stator plate holes, for A3 and early A35. 3 total.

From 1998 to 2002 two M5-0.8 thread stator plate holes were added, for mid A35. 5 total, 3 unused.

From 2003 to 2006 the electric start affected the wires grommet, for late A35. 7 holes total, 5 unused

From 2003 to 2013 two M6-1.0 thread pulser coil holes were added, for A55. 7 holes total, 3 unused.

Flywheels: All the flywheels, both 80 and 90 mm ID, fit the same crank, but they can have different points cams or ignition triggers. Some flywheels do interchange, some might, and some don’t.

4. Service Info

Here is an image of the magneto section in the 1993 Tomos A35/Colibri Service Manual, by Tomos Products.

Motoplat and Wtemco Magnetos

March 20, 2023

1. Motoplat

9600.099 ⇐ 6V 27/15W on 1976-83 Derbi
∅94 3+2-hole stator plate, coil holes 4 x 46
∅79 id flywheel, M22-1.5 puller thread
green is ignition, blue is ignition ground, red is lights
points 080, coil screws M4x25 phillips

0602.007 ⇐ 6V 25/15W on 1983-86 Derbi
∅94 3+2-hole stator plate, coil holes 4 x 46
∅79 id flywheel, M22-1.5 puller thread
green is ignition, blue is ignition ground, red is lights
points 081

0602.062 ⇒ 6V 31/15W on 1986-89 Derbi
∅94 3+2-hole stator plate, coil holes 4 x 46
∅79 id flywheel, M22-1.5 puller thread
green is ignition, blue is ignition ground, yellow is lights
points 081

9600.089 ⇐ 6V 25/25W on some Sachs 504 engines
∅80 2-hole stator plate, coil holes 4 x 46
∅79 id flywheel, M22-1.5 puller thread
blue is ignition, black is ignition ground, yellow is lights
points 081

0602.089 ⇐ 6V 28/15W15 on some Sachs 505/1D engines
∅90 3+1-hole stator plate, coil holes 4 x 55
∅90 id flywheel
blue is ignition, black is ignition ground, yellow is lights
points 081

9600.095 ⇐ 6V 28/15W15 on ’79 Casal K196
∅94 3+2-hole stator plate, coil holes 4 x 46
∅79 id flywheel has a ring welded around it
black is ignition, blue is ignition ground, yellow is lights
points 081

2. WTEMCO

Table of WTEMCO Magnetos and Applications
WTEMCO # rotation applications 000000 link to
WTEMCO # rotation applications 000000 points lights power mag. part #
A. FHA11035 ⇒ on Angel ’77-83 (TYM M48 clone) M19A00 6V 20/15W
A. FHA11035 ⇒ on Indian ’78-83 (PC50K1 clone) M19A00 6V 20/15W D120-00-50

This entire magneto is Bosch compatible, but the flywheel and stator separately are not. Bosch has a 90mm ID flywheel, and WTEMCO has a 82mm ID.

Wtemco FHA 11035 1977-83 Angel and 1978-83 Indian magneto

Pacer Cables

January 12, 2023

Pacer Deluxe cables:
rear brake 61 x 67″ $10
front brake 41 x 48″ $10
throttle 38 x 47″ $10
start cable 44 x 50″ $10

Pacer Sport and Super Sport cables:
rear brake 59 x 65″ $10
front brake 39 x 46″ $10
throttle 36 x 45″ $10
start cable 42 x 48″ $10

These are single-ended bare cables. The inner wire can slide out and be replaced separately.

The specification is conduit length x total length in inches.

Brake and start cables have 6mm mushroom type ends. Throttle cables have a 3x5mm inline end.

Turn Signals

January 7, 2023

So far, only some turn signals are listed under their bike brands.

Turn Signal Flashers (2-prong)

#552 12 volt 2-prong $8.00 12V 32cp Tomos 222428 flashes 2 12V 10w bulbs

#552 6 volt 2-prong $8.00 6V 32cp flashes two 6V 8w or 6V 10w bulbs

#535 6 volt 3-prong none .

Gurtner Menu

November 14, 2022

D and E type ’73-83 Peugeot

AR1

AR2

Zanetti

November 5, 2022

1. Zanetti Mopeds

2. Zanetti C50/2 Parts Catalog

1. Zanetti Mopeds

Officine Meccaniche Zanetti in Bologna Italy made 50cc motorcycle engines and motorized bicycles from the early 1960’s to the late 70’s.

Bicizeta: In the 1960’s Zanetti produced the popular Italian motor bike Bicizeta (bee-see-zet-uh) with the Zanetti C50/2 front engine. It could be pedaled or motored, or both. It folded in half to fit easily into most car trunks. The gas tank is above the engine below the handlebar. The headlight is molded into the gas tank.

1970 Zanetti Bicizeta with C50 engine (Euro model)
1960’s Bicizeta sales flyer in Italian (Italy model)

Ci.Te. right control on 1965 Zanetti Bicizeta

C50/2 front engine is a friction drive, pull start, 42 cc automatic.
It produced 0.7 hp at 3750 rpm, and went about 19 mph.
Bore 38, Stroke 37, Size 41.96 cc, Compression ratio 7.64:1

Pumita: From about 1963 to ’72 the Bicizeta was remade in Cordoba, Argentina by Lujan HNOS S.A.I.C. It was called Pumita (little puma). Some versions had less chrome. Some had different controls.

’63-72? bicimoto Pumita (Argentina model)

First American Bicizeta: In 1964-65 First American Bicizeta, Inc began importing to the US the popular Italian motorized bicycle Bicizeta.

Euro and US versions: The Euro-model Bicizeta had an internal spark coil, no brake light and a small tail light. The US-model version sold in the late 60’s and early 70’s had an external spark coil, a brake light (powered by the ignition source coil ground), and a large tail light.

There are no photos or flyers available. So which Bicizeta version is unknown.

MBI: Some time in 1965-68 First American Bicizeta became Motor Bike Imports (MBI) 6005 S Route 130, Pennsauken NJ 08110. MBI created the Safari brand name. In the late 70’s Safari became a popular brand sold at eastern US moped shops, mostly New Jersey, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Florida.

Safari Scat: In 1968-69 MBI contracted MZV of Bologna Italy to produce mini-bikes and mini-cycles using the Zanetti engines. They were given the brand name Safari Scat. Apparently the Safari Scat mini bike line of the early 1970’s included or became street legal full size mopeds with off road tires and fenders by around 1979. There are currently no pictures or details of those early Safari Scat mini bikes. There is only this 1979 Safari Super Scat, a top tank moped with Minarelli V1 engine.

Bicizeta: From about 1968 to 1974 MBI sold the Zanetti Bicizeta:

1968 Zanetti Bicizeta C50-2 (US model) from Gary Boettcher in PA

Tires: 20 x 1.75 (bicycle)
front tire needs a smooth flat top to last longer

Controls: Ci.Te. same as this ’68 Lambretino, sliding-block

Ci.Te. bottom view, Ci.Te. and Domino levers compared

Cables: all 1-ended, throttle, decomp, front brake, rear brake

Hubs/Brakes: 70’s Grimeca 90 x 18 mm, Grimeca pinch bolts
axles M10?-1.0 threaded

Spokes: 36 front and 36 rear, both 3-cross 171 x 2.5 mm

Electrical: external ignition ground powers the brake light

the green engine wire must go to ground to have spark

Tail Light: CEV 9313 with 6V 3/15w or 6V 5/18w bulb

Head Light: CEV

Petcock: knob? type, horizontal, M12-1.0 thread

Safari Rovet: In the early 1970’s MBI went in partnership with an Italian engineer and started their own bicycle manufacturing company, named Rovet. In 1975 Rovet made the Safari Rovet, using the Zanetti front engine. Unlike the Bicizeta that was a folding step-thru frame, the Rovet was non-folding. It produced 1 hp, went about 19 mph, and was DOT approved for US streets.

Fuel pump: The Rovet gas tank was the main frame tube, with a petcock down near the pedals. The fuel tank is lower than the engine, and so a fuel pump is required to supply fuel to the carburetor. A supply hose from the petcock goes to the pump. A hose from the pump goes to the carburetor. The Dellorto SHA float type carburetor only lets fuel in when it is needed. The excess fuel supplied by the pump is returned back to the fuel tank. So a return hose goes from the carburetor to the top of the fuel tank.

1975 Safari Rovet, headlight removed

Safari Fox: Not long after the Rovet was introduced, it was improved and renamed Fox. A top cross bar was added that kept the frame from bending under heavy loads, like jumping curbs or hitting pot holes. That made it necessary to swing your leg over the back of the bike to mount and dismount it. It was no longer a step through design.

1976 Safari Fox