Service Referrals

November 10, 2011

Myrons realizes that not doing full service causes many people hardship to say the least. As a courtesy to those who need service on a ordinary 1970′s-80′s classic moped or 1980′s-2010′s scooter, Shaun is referring those service requests to Bryan the Rock N Wrench, 714-875-1961. Bryan is based in Garden Grove CA and will come to your house if within 15 miles. Honest Bryan has fixed several hundred mopeds over the last 8 years. Be aware that certain parts for old mopeds can be very expensive or even unobtainable. In order to be worth fixing, it should not be missing too many things, have not too much damage to engine, wheels, electrical, or anything else. A few hundred dollars is what an average running used moped sells for online. It often costs $200+ for a “wake up” service, which is when a bike has been ”sleeping” for years and it’s gas and oil and grease have turned into varnish, gum, tar, or whatever you want to call sticky smelly sludge. Then add to that anything that was wrong with the bike before it sat up. Things like wheel bearings, cables, brakes, exhaust, kickstand, tires, lights, etc often need service in addition to the normal wake up cleaning. Thats how parts and service can get to near or above what the bike’s worth.

 


Basics

September 5, 2011

Welcome to Myrons Service Department. Mopeds are easier to work on than cars. You don’t have to lay under them and get dirt in your eyes and oil in your hair.

Moped Owners Manual  – General Information – Basics

by Shaun Strahm, Myrons Mopeds, 1879 W Commonwealth #L Fullerton CA   714-992-5592   Dec 1999

TWO-STROKE ENGINES:

Mopeds have two-stroke engines. Outboard boats, chain saws, weed wackers, and many small motorcycles also have two-stroke engines. It’s called “two-stroke because the spark plug fires every two strokes of the piston (down & up). Four-stroke engines, like cars & lawnmowers have, fire the spark plug every four strokes of the piston (down, up, down, up). This is why two-stroke engines sound more like buzzing insects, while four-strokes sound more like a drum roll.

Two-stroke engines run on gasoline with two-cycle oil mixed in, or have oil injection. A two-stroke engine does not have motor oil in the crankcase, like a four-stroke does. Instead the crankcase contains the gasoline and air mixture, with a little bit of two-stroke oil added in. After the two-stroke oil coats the crank bearings and piston it is burned along with the gasoline. The burning of oil makes a little bit of smoke in the exhaust, which is normally barely noticeable.

TWO-STROKE OIL:

The most important thing you can do to keep your moped healthy is to use a good quality two-stroke oil and mix it in the correct amount of 50 to 1 (2.5 ounces per gallon). This will make the engine stay strong and last a long time, and help prevent carbon build-up inside the exhaust. The oil we sell and recommend is called Champion 2-Cycle Oil and comes in small 2.5 oz bottles for $2, and large 12.5 oz bottles for $5. Some of the highest mileage mopeds I have seen over the years have used this oil, which is a petroleum based oil with expensive synthetic additives. Pure synthetic oils are also very good. You buy good quality two-cycle oil at motorcycle and lawnmower shops. Auto parts stores usually only carry ordinary less expensive blends. Grocery and drug stores also carry cheap two-cycle oil.

OIL INJECTION:

If your moped has oil injection, then you don’t have to mix oil in the gas. Instead you add two-stroke oil to an oil tank located usually under the seat. A small oil pump squirts about one drop of oil every few seconds into the intake port, where it is ultimately burned up. The oil gets used up as you go, and so the oil tank must be refilled every so often, usually about every 3 gas fill-ups (300 miles). If the oil tank is allowed to run out of oil after a few minutes the engine
will seize up and suffer piston damage.

OIL & GAS MIXING:

The best way to mix the oil and gas is with a gas can. If you have a small pill-bottle-size 2.5 ounce bottle of two-stroke oil, you just pour that into an empty one gallon gas can and then take the gas can to a gas station and put one gallon of gas in it. By adding the oil first you have eliminated the need to shake the gas can afterwards, because the force of the gas pump has already stirred up the mixture and dissolved all of the oil. If you add the oil last it will at first settle at the bottom, and the gas container must be sloshed around a few times. Two-stroke oil is usually colored green so that you can see the green tint of pre-mixed gasoline. Without shaking or stirring the gasoline would be dark green at the bottom and clear at the top. Once the oil dissolves the color becomes very light green throughout, and the oil will stay dissolved and never settle out so there’s no need to ever shake it up again.

The other way to mix the oil and gas is directly into the gas tank. Most moped gas tanks hold about one gallon maximum and they usually don’t get below 1/4 gallon before they’re refilled, but the tank should not be filled all the way to the max because of gas leakage out of the gas cap vent hole, so the actual amount of gasoline needed to refill is usually about 1/2 to 3/4 gallon. If you buy 1/2 gallon of gas then you need 1/2 of a bottle of oil. If you add the oil just before adding the gas, it will be mixed automatically by the force of the gas pump and you won’t have to shake the bike up afterward. If you add the oil last then just make sure to shake the entire bike sideways and back and forth to splash around all of the gas in the tank. Always do this with the kickstand up so you don’t bend the center stand.

You should carry with you a small 2.5 ounce bottle of Champion 2-Cycle Oil that’s enough for one whole gallon. Most mopeds have a compartment that holds a small bottle of oil, which you keep refilled from a big bottle you keep at home. That way you always have oil with the bike. You cannot add gasoline and then drive home and add the oil later because after about two minutes of running without oil the engine will seize-up and damage to the piston, rings, and cylinder walls will occur.

A lot of people ask if it’s better to use too much oil than not enough. The answer is yes but too much oil, say 5oz/gal, can foul the spark plug causing the engine to not run or start until a new spark plug is installed. Way too much oil in the gas, say 10oz/gal, will clog the carburetor and the engine won’t run until the carburetor is cleaned out. Too much oil causes excessive exhaust smoke and leads to premature muffler clogging. Not enough oil, say 1.5oz/gal, will not hurt a normal moped that’s driven slowly. For all these reasons its best to use 2.5oz/gal and never less than 2.0 or more than 3.0.

GAS VALVE:

All mopeds have a gas shut off valve at the bottom of the gas tank. The valve knob has three positions, OFF (closed), ON (open), and RES (reserve). You should always keep the gas valve OFF when you’re not using the moped, or else gas can leak out of the carburetor. If the gas is left on, it’s up to the float valve inside the carburetor to stop the gas from leaking. On a new bike or one that has a good working carburetor float the gas valve can be left on for days without any
leaking. Moped carburetors hold about 5 spoonfuls of gasoline, enough to go about a half a block. So if you forget to turn the gas valve on the bike will start and run for about one minute and then stop running. Turning the gas valve OFF and running the engine until it uses up the 5 spoonfuls of gas in the carburetor is what you should always do before transporting or storing the moped.

The RES (reserve) position is for when the tank is very low or getting near empty. The bottom two inches of the gas tank does not come out when the gas valve is ON. So if youre going along and the gas gets too low it will “hit reserve” and run out of gas. Then you can switch the gas valve to RES and start heading towards a gas station. On most mopeds the reserve is enough to go a few miles. You can run on RES all of the time, but its recommended to use ON instead because it does not draw gas from the very bottom of the tank where rust powder and water tend to settle at. Most gas valves are marked or labeled. In case yours is not, OFF is almost always to the right as your facing the valve, ON is always down, and RES is either to the left or up.

BACKWARDS KICK STARTING (TOMOS ONLY):

Tomos mopeds since 1976 have always had way of starting that’s different from all other mopeds. On a Tomos you kick either pedal backwards to start the engine. On all other mopeds you kick either pedal forward while pulling a lever. Also unlike all other mopeds, a Tomos does not need to be on the center stand when doing a stationary kick start. You should always have your left hand on the rear brake lever when stationary starting off the center stand. On a normal Tomos you don’t need to give it any throttle at all, but if you do give it throttle, when it starts it will immediately lurch forward. Holding the left (rear) brake on prevents the bike from moving forward before you’re ready. 

KICK STARTING:

Put the moped on the center stand so that the rear tire is off the ground. If the bike has a bent or worn out center stand or if there’s too much weight on the back it will not be able to start this way, because the rear tire must kept from touching the ground. Stand on either side of the bike with both hands on the handlebars. Turn the pedals backwards until the one on your side is almost straight up.

A. LEFT START LEVER ENGAGES MANUAL STARTING CLUTCH, used on the following mopeds:

Puch, Sachs engine, Minarelli engine, Morini engine, Garelli, Batavus, Trac, Foxi, and others: Pull start lever on the left handlebar and push the pedal down while holding the start lever. When the engine starts let go of the start lever.

B. LEFT START LEVER IS DECOMPRESSION, AUTOMATIC STARTING CLUTCH:

Derbi, Vespa, Honda PA50 Hobbit, Kinetic, Trac (Dai Lim engine), Angel, and others: On these mopeds there is also an engage lever either on the engine (Derbi only), or rear wheel, that disengages the rear wheel from the motor, so the bike can be pedaled or pushed without the automatic starting clutch trying to start the engine. Pull the decompression lever and push the pedal down. As your foot is going down, let go of the lever. The engine will start the moment you let go of the decomp lever.

C. RIGHT START LEVER IS DECOMPRESSION, AUTOMATIC STARTING CLUTCH:

Motobecane & Peugeot only. Same as Type B, except decomp lever is on the right side handlebar. The left lever is a choke on these French made mopeds. These mopeds have an engage switch on the belt pulley that disengages the rear wheel from the motor, so the bike can be pedaled or pushed without the automatic starting clutch trying to start the engine.

In all 3 types A, B, & C, you should always have your left hand ready to squeeze the left (rear) brake lever in case the rear tire touches the ground while its turning fast.

PEDAL STARTING:

If you are already on the bike and it’s off the center stand you can start it by pedaling up to about 5mph and then pulling the start lever while continuing to pedal. If your moped has a decomp lever then you pull it first, then pedal, then let go of the decomp lever. Pedal starting is the only way to start a bike that has a bent center stand or too much weight on the back. If the pedals are not working the moped can be push started by walking it forward instead of pedaling.

                                   Spark Plugs

Spark Plugs are important. They’re also cheap and easy to change. The spark plug is the first thing you look at when a motor won’t start. Spark, compression, and fuel are the three main ingredients. Spark plugs come in different sizes and styles. See Parts Department to learn what sizes and styles there are.

Reading spark plugs: The condition of the spark plug tells you about the condition of the engine. A normal spark plug has a light brown coating on the white porcelain insulator, and sharp corners on the center electrode. A high mileage spark plug in a healthy engine looks the same but the electrode corners are rounded. Sparks like to jump from pointy things. A rounded center electrode or way too big a gap might make the engine hard to start. 

Checking for Spark: Remove the spark plug, connect the cap to it, and lay it on the engine so the metal shell touches the engine. Turn the engine over either by pedal starting or by flicking the flywheel with your hand. Little momentary light blue sparks should be jumping the gap, making a “snap” sound each time the piston goes up and down. Modern CDI ignitions are hard to see in bright sunlight, so check for spark in the shade. A bright white, pink, or yellowish spark is bad. That usually indicates a fouled plug. Dim and blue is good, especially if the snap snap snap sound is loud.     

 

 

 

 


New Tomos Service

August 21, 2011

Welcome to Myrons Mopeds New Tomos Service Department. Here are some articles to help you repair or lovingly maintain your 1994-later Tomos. You can also purchase hard copies of owners manuals and service manuals, listed in the Accessories Department.

Tomos Basics is a 2 page mini owners manual, that supplements the regular owners manual.

Tomos Electrical is a 12 page crash course in understanding and troubleshooting electrical.

Tomos Trans Oil Leak is a 2 page info sheet about 2008-later oil leaks at the chain sprocket.

future articles

               TOMOS BASICS for USA Models 2007-on (A55 engine)

  1. TOMOS means TOvarna MOtornih koles Sezana (motorbike factory in Sezana, Slovenia).
  2. Warranty is 6 month/4000 mile limited. Owner must send in the warranty registration card located in the owner’s manual to activate the warranty on a brand new Tomos.
  3. Engine is the A55 two-cycle 49cc  single, EPA and CARB compliant with catalytic exhaust. Speed is 30mph. Horsepower is 2hp. Transmission is two-speed fully automatic.
  4. Pedals go forward for hybrid human/motor propulsion. Pedaling speed is 5 to 10 mph. Pedals kick backward for starting engine. Pedal forward to put pedals in kick position.
  5. Gasoline is 91 octane premium unleaded. Only Sprint model is pre-mixed with oil 50:1 or 2.5 ounces per gallon. All other models have oil injection and use straight gasoline.
  6. Gas tank size: LX 1.5gal   Sprint, ST 1gal.  Arrow, Revival, Streetmate .75gal. On the LX and ST locking gas lid, only the key turns, counterclockwise to open.  On ’05-08 Arrow, Revival, Streetmate the gas lid is push in. It pulls straight out. Sometimes it’s tight. After 2008 all gas lids are quarter-turn type.
  7. Gas valve is a manual fuel tap or shut off. It is located above the engine on the left side of the bike. It has three positions, off (horizontal), on (down), up (reserve). Use on during normal operation. Use off when not operating. Use reserve if you “run out of gas”. Reserve lasts 4 to 10 miles. Don’t forget to put it back to “on” after you gas up.
  8. Gas level is checked by opening the gas lid, looking, shaking, and listening. There is no gas gauge. On the LX you can see the whole tank. On the ST and Sprint you can see half way. On the others you can only see the first fourth. Many people choose to install a clear hose branching up from the fuel line. It serves as a gas gauge. The liquid level in the tube is the level in the tank.
    Gas tank vent: On Arrow/Revival/Streetmate models the gas tank is inside the frame, which is U-shaped. On one end of the “U” is the fill hole, where you add gas. On the other end of the “U” is a vent to let air in and out. It normally lets a tiny amount of air pass but not enough during refueling. When adding gas, the gas tank vent, a black spring-loaded push button, needs to be pushed each time the tank seems full to let any air escape allowing more room for gasoline. It makes a hiss sound. When the ¾ gallon tank seems full and the vent no longer hisses then it’s truly full.
  9. Gas mileage (mpg) is 100 miles per gallon, going 37mph on city streets. If you’re larger, have hills, rough roads, stop and go, your mpg (and range) will be less. If you’re smaller, more aerodynamic, and go slow, your mpg (and range) will be more.
  10. Gas range:  LX 125mi  Sprint, ST 85mi  Arrow, Revival, Streetmate 60mi. Means topped off to hitting reserve, 160lb rider on smooth flat city streets.
  11. Oil is two-cycle oil. It’s slowly consumed by burning along with the gasoline. Use a good brand, preferably synthetic, like Champion weed wacker oil. Without the oil the two-cycle engine will get hot, melt the sides of the piston, and “seize”, with a scary skid.
  12.  Oil tank is under the seat, except Sprint, which is premixed in the gas. It doesn’t matter how much oil is in it, only that there always is some. Check the oil level at each gas fill-up. After several gas fill-ups it will need an oil fill-up. 13 ounces lasts about 5 gallons.
  13.  Steering lock is on the left front of the frame. To lock, put the steering almost all the way to the right, push the key in while turning it to the right. Move the steering slightly until it finds the hole and goes down 3/8 inch. To unlock, turn the key to the left, pull up, and wiggle the steering if necessary.
  14.  Keys: Sprint = steering lock only (2), no ignition key. No battery to turn off.
  15. Keys: ST/LX = steering lock (2) and gas lid (2), no ignition key. No battery to turn off.
  16.  Keys: Arrow = steering lock and ignition (2). Turn off ignition and battery after use.
  17.  Keys: Revival = steering lock, seat, and ignition (2). Turn off ign & battery after use.
  18.  Keys: Streetmate = steering lock, seat, trunk, ignition (2). Turn off ign & bat after use.  Main key switch, also known as “the ignition”, on Revival is on left top of the fake gas tank. On Arrow and Streetmate it’s under the left side of the seat.
  19.  Choke is manual. It’s needs to be on (flipped up) for starting when the engine is cold. After a few seconds, when the engine is warmed up, it needs to be off (flipped down). In winter, temp 40 F, the choke is left on for the first two blocks. For normal temp 70 F, the choke is left on for 10 seconds. In hot summer, temp 100 F, it’s not needed at all. Never leave it idling for long periods with the choke on or it will become “flooded”. Never use the choke when the engine is warm or it will become “flooded”. It’s better to under use the choke, than to over use it. If the engine becomes flooded, then it will need no choke and full throttle (maximum air) to compensate for the excess fuel that has accumulated. Running fast cleans it out, and is better for a two-stroke than idling.
  20.  Starting:  Turn gas valve to “on”, arrow down. (or “res” if it’s very low on gas)
  21.  Starting:  Turn engine stop switch to “run” symbol. It’s on the right handlebar.
  22.  Starting:  Revival/Arrow/Streetmate only. Put the key in and turn it on.
  23.  Starting:  Cold starting only. Put the choke on by flipping the black lever up.
  24.  Starting:  Stand on the ground with the bike on its center stand. Pedal forward until the pedal on your side is in the 2 o’clock position. Have your left hand fingers on the left (rear) hand brake, ready to stop in case it comes off the stand and takes off. Have your right hand on the throttle, with the twist grip turned only just a little, or not at all. Now kick backwards. A broke-in new Tomos starts in one kick.
  25.  Starting:  After it starts, rev it up by twisting the throttle. The engine needs to be revved up either stationary on the center stand or moving down the street. Starting it up and then letting it idle to warm up is not necessary or recommended. Its two-stroke crankcase already has the oil film, so it’s ready to ride immediately after starting.
  26.  Starting can also be done with the tires on the ground, off the center stand. Pedal the bike forward, maybe 10 or 20 inches, to put one of the pedals in kick position.
  27.  Starting can be done while moving. Just stop pedaling and kick backwards.
  28.  Electric starting is on Arrow/Revival/Streetmate only. Use the above starting steps, but replace “kick backwards” with “hold the left brake and push the start button”. The start button is where your right thumb is. Then ride for 10 minutes to recharge the battery.
  29.  Storage: Ride it with the gas valve turned off, to evacuate the gas from the carburetor. After about a block when it runs out, put the choke on and it will go another block. Doing this will prevent the carburetor from getting coated on the inside with tar from dried up gasoline during storage.
  30. Flooded Starting: Occasionally the moped can become “flooded”, a condition where too much gasoline and not enough air is causing the engine to not start. When this occurs, a different starting procedure must be used. First the gas valve should be turned off. The carburetor holds enough gas to run for at least a minute. Instead of minimum throttle with choke on (up), it needs maximum throttle with choke off (down), to get the most air. Once it fires, it needs the maximum throttle for awhile, maybe 5 or 20 seconds, until the rough running goes away. Then it needs 15-20 minutes of fast running to heat up the exhaust fully, to boil off any unburned gas and oil. During this period it will smoke a lot. If it does not fire within a few full kicks, then the spark plug will need to be removed and the gas or oil dried off it. If the white or brown porcelain insulator is shiny or black, then it will need a new spark plug, NGK BR7ES. Here are the causes of “flooding”. Knowing these before it happens will help prevent the problem.
  31. When a moped is leaned way over, especially with the gas left on, such as when it is being transported, gasoline can spill into the air filter or into the intake port of the engine, and result in not starting. This also can happen on Revival and Streetmate when gasoline spills over during filling. When the engine is run with the choke on too long, the spark plug can get wet with too much gasoline, and result in the engine not starting. Idling for too long, or going slow all the time can also cause this. When the engine is kicked over many times without having a spark, such as when the kill switch is left in the off position, the spark plug can get wet with gas and result in not starting.
  32. If the float valve inside the carburetor malfunctions, gasoline can spill into the air filter. A tiny fiber can cause that, or tar from a long time sitting, or a worn needle valve and/or seat. If the oil injector leaks oil into the engine during storage, then the spark plug can get wet with oil. Remove the spark  lug, kick over the engine to push out any excess oil, and clean the oil off the plug.

Basics of Tomos Moped Electrical Systems

by Shaun Strahm, Myrons Mopeds, December 2010

The following is a “crash course” on how to find and fix electrical problems on late model TOMOS mopeds.

 

            Table of Contents                             page

 Everything is circuits……………………………….…   2

Shorts and opens…………………………………….     3

Volts and amps………………………………………..    3

Batteries and generators…………………………     3

Magnetos………………………………………………..    4

Magneto versus battery……………………..…..    4

Testing without a tester…………………………..    4

Example 1: Prince of Darkness…………………     5

Example 2: The Flasher……………………………     6

Make predictions…………………………………….    6

AC lights and DC lights……………………………..    6

Example 3: The Double Crosser……..……….     7

Ignition ……………………………………………………     8

How to test a coil…………………………………….    8

How to check for spark……………………………    8

Ground the coil wire to stop the spark…..    9

Tomos A35 and A55 CDI ignitions…….……..    9

Ignition timing…………………………………………   10

Ignition symptoms………………………………….   11

 

 

Everything is circuits

     Every electrical system is composed of current loops or circuits. The electricity flows out, goes through the device being powered, and then flows back. That is why all electrical cords have at least two wires. One wire is out and one is back. Coaxial cables look like one wire, but they’re actually one wire surrounding another. If you follow that pair of wires in an appliance cord all the way to the transformer on the power pole, you’ll see they’re joined in the windings of the transformer, forming a closed loop.  In some electrical systems such as automobiles and mopeds, the metal frame is a “ground”. In this context a “ground” is a path for the electricity to flow through that is shared by many loops. If the cars in a big city were electricity, then each current loop would be one car, going to work in the morning and then coming back in the evening, making a loop. Then the freeway would be the ground, where the separate current loops all share the same roadway.  When several devices are connected with each having its own current loop, they are said to be connected in “parallel”. Unplug one device and the others are unaffected. Everything in your house is wired in parallel, and has its own current loop. Similarly, on a moped, the head light, tail light, brake light, and horn are wired in parallel, and have their own separate loops or circuits. The tangled nest of cords behind your computer desk, as well as the wires in your moped, can, in principle, be laid out in nice straight parallel lines in order to visualize the “scheme”. This is called a “schematic” diagram. Being able to visualize or draw the schematic is required to understand any circuit.

 


 


Figure 1: Schematic diagrams of a moped and a house are the same. Every device is in a “parallel” loop or circuit.

     When two devices are connected one after another, they are said to be “in series”. The only things on a moped or in your house that are in series with other things are the switches. From figure 2 below, you can see from the house wiring diagram that the TV switch turns on the TV and not the computer. You can see that the breaker turns off everything. From the moped wiring diagram you can see that the light switch turns off the lights but not the horn. This is basic.   

 

 

 

Figure 2: The devices in a moped and a house are in parallel, while their on/off switches are in series.

        You can usually tell how a moped or a house is wired from observing the behavior of all the switches and devices. Any switches must be in series with the devices they turn on and off. Each device and its (optional) switch must be in parallel so that they can be turned on and off independently of one another. This is predicting the wiring diagram from the observed behavior. Conversely, you can also predict the behavior from observing the wiring diagram.

Shorts and opens

     Not every electrical problem is a “short”. The term “short” is unknowingly misused by the general public to mean two opposite things at once, a “short circuit” and an “open circuit”. It can mean a true short, where a wire (or anything that carries electricity) touches another, forming a shorter loop that redirects the electricity through the short loop and not through the original loop. Or the term “short” is misused to mean an open, where a wire (or anything that carries electricity) does not touch another, interrupting the loop and causing the electricity to not flow through the loop. Both a short and an open can cause electricity to not flow through a device, but for completely opposite reasons.

 

 

Figure 3: A “short” is a shortcut that steals most of the current from the device. An “open” interrupts the current.

Volts and amps

     Electricity flowing through a wire is analogous to water flowing through a pipe. It is measured in two ways. The “voltage” (in volts), is like the water pressure (in pounds per square inch). The “amperage” (in amperes or “amps”) is like the water flow (in gallons per minute). When you’re taking a shower and someone turns on the garden hose, your water pressure drops. Less water pressure results in less water flow and your shower gets weaker. Likewise, when starting your car, all your lights get dim. This is because your 12 volt battery momentarily drops down to 6 or 8 volts when the starter motor is using up most of the available current.

Batteries and generators

      There are two main sources of electricity. Batteries (and fuel cells) produce steady current, called “DC”, or direct current.  Generators (and alternators, magnetos, and dynamos), make “AC”, or alternating current. The current made by a generator alternates direction back and forth, in sync with the rotation. The rotation is what causes the electric current to be AC. All power plant generators in the USA are set to rotate at a speed that always makes 60 cycles per second AC, or 3600 cycles per minute. On a moped, the generator rotates with the engine, which varies in speed from about 1000 cycles (revolutions) per minute “rpm” at idle to above 8000 cycles per minute going fast downhill. So the “frequency” (how fast it alternates) of the AC is variable in a moped, but not in a house. Many devices such as lights, behave the same no matter what the AC frequency is. In fact an incandescent light bulb works exactly the same on AC or DC current. In figure 4 below, graphs of voltage versus time show the main types of electricity. 60 wave crests happen in about one second, so the time scale is too short for the human eye to see. Only an oscilloscope can show the “wave form”. 

 

 

Figure 4: AC is from generators. DC is from batteries. In between is rectified AC or “rippled” DC.

Magnetos

     Mopeds and small motorcycles have magnetos. A “magneto” is a generator plus a no-battery ignition. A magneto ignition will operate with a dead battery. Automobiles and large motorcycles have battery ignitions. They require a battery, both to operate and to start up. Dirt bikes and power equipment without lights have magnetos with a single wire output. That is the ignition wire that goes from the source coil (and points and condenser) inside the engine to the transformer coil outside the engine. All street bikes with lights have two or more wires coming out of their magnetos. One is for ignition, and the other(s) is for lights. We now focus on the lighting wires, which are normally separate from the ignition. If you turn over a moped engine, that is, cause it to rotate, then some electricity will be generated and the lights should come on while it’s being rotated. Just because the lights work does not mean the ignition works. They are like two separate generators tuning on the same shaft. As the engine rotates faster, the lights get brighter, indicating more voltage is being produced.  The magneto/generator will reach a speed where the voltage will level off. Above that speed the lights won’t get any brighter. So a magneto is self-limiting with regard to engine speed (and thus vehicle speed). The bad thing about a magneto is when you are stopped idling your lights are dim. With a battery, your lights are always almost the same brightness all the time. The good thing about a magneto is you don’t have a heavy expensive battery that goes bad if you leave it sit for over a few months.

Magneto versus battery

     The most important difference between a battery and a magneto is a battery will deliver an almost unlimited amount of amps, if it is allowed to, while a magneto will limit the maximum amps by dropping in voltage. Because of this, a battery system needs fuses to protect its wires from melting from too many amps. A magneto does not ever have fuses, nor does it need them. This difference makes moped electrical troubleshooting different from automobile troubleshooting. A magneto almost never burns out or causes wires to melt. You can short a magneto’s lighting wire directly to ground, and it will only get warm. Short a battery’s positive terminal to the negative and the wire will suddenly glow red and splatter molten copper and sparks. That’s quite a difference. A battery is always “live” even when the engine is not running. A magneto, however, is only “live” when the engine is running. So when troubleshooting a magneto system, instead of starting and stopping the engine to perform voltage tests, it is more convenient to leave the engine off and perform continuity (ohms) tests on “non-live” wires. When the leads on an ohm meter touch each other, the resistance (ohms) is essentially zero. When the pair of test leads does not touch each other the resistance (ohms) is essentially infinite. Instead of watching the needle swing on a meter, a continuity tester that makes sound is better. With a tester that beeps when the leads touch, and with the leads connected to the wire being tested, you can then focus your eyes on the suspicious area and wiggle or move the wires around listening for the beep to change. When your suspicious wire touches the bad spot, the tester will beep. Or when your suspicious wire goes open, the beep will stop. This is the usual way of checking bulbs, besides looking visually for a broken filament. A good bulb will have continuity (very low ohms), while a bad bulb will have no continuity (very high ohms). You can often check a bulb without removing it from the socket, by connecting the test leads to the wires that lead to the bulb. If there are branch points along that wire that lead to other bulbs, then those other bulbs must be removed from their sockets in order to isolate the suspicious one.

Testing a without a tester

     You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. Likewise it is possible to perform useful tests with just swapping things around, unplugging things, or using paper clips or clip leads as temporary wires. When your toaster stops making toast, the first thing you do is go plug it into a wall socket that is known to work. Then if the toaster works there, you know the problem is in the wall socket. If it still does not work in the good wall socket, then you know something’s wrong with the toaster. Right there you just applied mathematical logic to perform troubleshooting. People who are good at math and logic puzzles also have an easier time solving electrical problems. The most important tool needed for electrical troubleshooting is the mushy grey stuff between your ears. Each test, when performed properly, establishes a new truth. The newly established truth forms the basis for a further test. Each successive test narrows down the possibilities, until finally there is only one possible explanation for the results of all the tests. There is almost always more than one way of troubleshooting. Instead of moving the suspicious toaster to a known good wall socket, an alternative way of troubleshooting it would be to take a known good lamp and plug it into the suspicious wall socket. If the known good lamp works there, then you know the wall socket is good and the toaster is bad. If the known good lamp does not work there, then you know the wall socket is bad but you still don’t know about the toaster.  That is the kind of precise mathematical thinking required to solve electrical problems (puzzles to some).

 

Example 1: Prince of Darkness

      Here is a real life moped troubleshooting example. Let’s say your 2003 Tomos Sprint head light does not work. You first learn about how it’s wired from the wiring diagram. That tells you there is a head light on/off switch on the right handlebar, and a high beam/low beam switch on the left handlebar. Right away you look to see if the switch is on. If it is, then you see if switching from high to low beam matters.  On an already running bike, you would start the engine, flip the switches, and observe. If the head light worked on high beam but not low, that would mean the problem must be after the high/low switch, in the low beam (white) wire, low beam bulb socket prong, or most likely the low beam filament inside the bulb. If the head light did not work on either high or low, then nothing new is learned. Looking at the wiring diagram you can see that all of the lights work of one wire. So you would test to see if the tail light, brake light, speedometer light, and horn work. Again you would start the engine, press buttons, and observe. If none of the devices work, regardless of what position the switches are in, then it’s possible that all of the devices (head light bulb, speedometer light bulb, tail light bulb, brake light bulb, and horn) could be bad all at once. However, it’s far more likely to be a single fault in the yellow wire that supplies all the devices. There’s two ways the yellow wire can be bad. It can be touching ground anywhere along its length, from the speedometer bulb to the magneto, causing a short circuit, or it can be an open circuit somewhere before the first branching point, possibly in the magneto. Understanding that is the hardest part. The next test would be to unplug the yellow wire from the engine, start the engine, touch the yellow wire from the engine directly to ground and see if it sparks. If the generator is working, it will spark. Let’s say it does spark. Then you would look to see if it sparked when you plugged it back in, maybe using a paper clip to see sparks that might be hidden by the connector cover. If it does spark when it’s plugged in, yet none of the lights come on, it can only mean that the yellow supply wire is touching ground somewhere, allowing the current to return without going through the lights. Next step is to start eliminating the various possibilities. The AC voltage regulator is a good place to start. You would unplug it and then start the engine and see if the lights work. On a 1992-later Tomos moped you need a voltage regulator only when the engine is revved up to keep the bulbs from burning out from too much voltage (like 18 VAC max without regulator, 13 VAC max with). The lights will work fine without a regulator, but the engine must not be revved up too much. Let’s say that the test is performed, and the lights still don’t work, even with the regulator disconnected. Next possibility might be to look at the yellow wires going to each brake light switch, since they are easy to get to. Pull the rubber hoods off and let the wires hang loose, a yellow and a green on each side. Now if the brake light green wire was shorted to ground, and at the same time the yellow and green on either side were unplugged and touching each other , then the brake light would be always on, always stealing the juice from the other lights. You would start the engine with the brake light switch wires loose. Bingo! Suddenly the head light, tail light, speedometer light, and horn all work. So you would put the regulator back and then go look for the green wire touching ground somewhere. You know it must be true. You would look first under the back fender, where the tire sometimes rubs against the tail light and brake light wires. Eureka! The green wire is all shredded and touching the brown ground wire. You went from one end of the bike to the other, without any test equipment, just plugging and unplugging wires in a logical progression.   

Example 2: The Flasher

     In this example, a 2008 Tomos LX, turning on the right turn signal makes all the lights flash. You go to the wiring diagram and notice that all the devices run off the yellow AC power wire. You reason that if the purple wire, which is for right side turn signals, is shorted to ground somewhere, then that would explain the bad behavior. Whenever the right side turn signals would try to go on, the short would steal the current away and make all lights go off. The turn signals are plastic and almost never get shorted internally. It can happen from someone bending the prong that touches the bulb, so that it touches the bulb socket. But more likely, the purple wire is touching ground somewhere under the back fender. After looking under the rear fender and seeing no signs of wire damage from rubbing on the tire, you would start performing tests to isolate the problem. You would unplug both right turn signals. The problem would go away if it was in one of the turn signals. But it doesn’t. You study the wiring diagram and notice there are many ways you can unplug things on a 2008-later model. You might choose to unplug the main plug. From looking at the wiring diagram you would know that the front turn signals and indicator light would be eliminated, but the rear turn signals would still try to function. You perform the test, and lo and behold, the problem goes away. This means that the purple wire is touching ground somewhere from the main plug forward. You would then maybe look at the front harness where it goes up under the gas tank. A normal 2008-later Tomos Sprint, ST, or LX has the three electrical bundles and the two control cables (throttle and rear brake) distributed evenly on the right and left sides of the steering tube part of the frame. Some 2008-09 bikes came from the factory with all of the wires and cables on one side. This makes it very difficult to get the cable tray on and very likely to pinch or puncture the wires with one of the cable tray screws. You notice that your bike is like that, with the cables and wires all on one side. You loosen the cable tray screws, letting the wire bundles dangle. You plug back in the main plug and start the engine. The problem goes away. Then you notice the snake bite puncture wound the cable tray screw made in the front wiring harness. The permanent fix is to unplug the main plug, and the right switch plug, and relocate the front harness and right switch harness to the empty left side. So the right side should have the throttle cable, rear brake cable, and the left and switch harness. The left side has the hefty front harness and the slim right switch harness. With this proper routing the cables and wires almost never get damaged.   

Make predictions

     The troubleshooting process involves making predictions. Look at any of the Tomos moped wiring diagrams in the collection. Imagine cutting a wire or two, here or there, or touching one or more to ground. In each case a good technician should be able to predict the misbehavior of all the lights and devices for all possible cases, just by looking at the wiring diagram or visualizing it in their head. If you study each of the eighteen Tomos moped wiring diagrams in this collection and imagine what would happen when any given wire becomes open or shorted, then when you do see the real life misbehavior, you will often know right away what the possible causes are, since that scenario has already been rehearsed. For example, ask “what if the blue (high beam) wire touches ground”. Answer “all the AC lights would go off, but only when the high beam is turned on”.

AC lights and DC lights

      The deluxe Tomos “battery” models, 2001 and later, including Revival and Streetmate, have both 12 volt AC and 12V DC electrical systems. Like the regular models (Sprint, ST, LX), the “battery” models use the 12V AC generator/magneto for the head light, speedometer light, and tail light. The other lights and devices, which are the brake light, turn signals, horn, oil light, and electric starter, are powered by a 12V DC battery.

 

 Example 3: The Double Crosser

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Ignition

     The ignition is like the electric pulses of a heart beat. The voltage pulses are in sync with the rotating crankshaft. When the crankshaft rotates faster (or slower), the spikes are closer together (or farther apart) in time. See figure 5.  

Figure 5: Ignition is neither AC nor DC, but instead a train of narrow pulses, each happening at a precise time.

What makes the gasoline ignite is the spark plug sparking, in the right way, at the right time. What makes the spark jump the gap of the spark plug is a sudden very steep rise in voltage, to over 10,000 volts in under a few thousandths of a second. What makes that high voltage spike is a transformer, usually called “the ignition coil”. A transformer is like a car jack. It steps up (or steps down) voltage while stepping down (or stepping up) current. A sudden change in current in the (thicker but fewer) primary windings induces a sudden large change in voltage in the (thinner but many more) secondary windings. Supplying the transformer with a sudden change in current is either a CDI unit (Capacitor Discharge Ignition), on 1994 and later, or a mechanical points and condenser, on 1993 and earlier models. On late model Tomos mopeds with CDI ignition, the electronics are molded into the coil (unlike most Asian types). The “control unit” or “CDI unit” is a small 1.5 inch square circuit board, hidden inside the black plastic of the coil. Early models before 1994 had plain coils, without any electronics.

How to test a coil

     Any ignition coil (coil only, not coil-with-CDI like Tomos uses) will produce a spark on a spark plug, at the instant the input wire is touched to a 12 volt battery (+), with the battery (-), coil, and plug all grounded (with clip leads). If you touch it slowly to the battery post, it will produce a weak spark. If you swipe the coil wire fast and hard against the battery post, it will produce a strong spark. This demonstrates that it’s the shorter “rise time”, much faster than the blink of an eye, that makes a better spark. Only perform the above spark test on plain coils. CDI/coils might get damaged from the high current possible. Never connect a 12V battery to a coil for longer than one second. It turns out that moped coils are never bad. Only occasionally the CDI/coils go bad. “Bad” means it produces no spark at all, or it produces weak or intermittent spark. Intermittent spark is like turning a light switch off and on, often in an unpredictable way. The only way to test a CDI/Coil is to put it on a known good running bike and test ride it, listening and feeling for any stumbling or misfiring. If no test bike is available, then the only way to test the CDI/Coil is to replace it with a known good one, and hope that fixes the problem. If it’s not the CDI/Coil, and not the bike’s wiring, then it must be the magneto. The CDI magneto costs way more than the CDI/Coil, and is more difficult to change, and so it’s last.

How to check for spark

      CDI solid state ignitions have shorter rise and fall times than mechanical point ignitions. That makes them start with a weaker kick, or even with your hand. CDI ignitions have a faint spark that is sometimes invisible in bright sun. Always check for spark in the shade. “Checking for spark” means removing the spark plug, connecting the plug wire to it, laying it on the engine so that it’s metal shell is touching ground (the head fins), and then turning the engine over (by pedaling backward or kick starting) while watching the gap between the electrodes of the spark plug. Spark color indicates temperature. Blue spark is hotter than pink or yellow. Faint blue spark is good. Bright white spark is bad, usually because of a semi-conductor-coated “fouled” spark plug.  The white porcelain insulator must not be coated with black or shiny carbon. If it is not dull white, tan, or brown, then use a new spark plug to check for spark. A fouled plug will spark badly or not at all, even when the ignition is working fine. You can also hear the snap sound of the spark. Loud is good.

Grounding the coil wire stops the engine 

     In both CDI and points type magneto ignitions, the “heart beat” is intentionally stopped when you turn the engine stop switch off. When the “kill” switch is “on” the ignition wire is not grounded. When the kill switch (engine stop) is “off” the ignition wire is grounded. This is the opposite of a (battery ignition) car. So to hot wire a magneto ignition bike you only need to disconnect or cut the kill switch wire so that it cannot be grounded. When troubleshooting a late model Tomos that has bad or no spark, the way to eliminate all the wires in the bike is to plug the black (or red) magneto ignition wire (which has a female blade connector) into the male blade of the coil (or it’s black or red wire with male blade). This isolates the circuit to just the engine and coil. Just remember you can’t turn the engine off.  

Tomos A35 and A55 CDI ignitions

     There are two types of Tomos CDI magneto ignitions, the A35 type (1994-2006) and the A55 type (2001-later). They consist of two or more coils mounted on a stationary plate, surrounded by a rotating flywheel with four strong magnets molded into it. The A35 ignition has no pulser coil to tell it when to spark. It triggers when the source coil voltage reaches a pre-set level. So changing the location of the source coil (by rotating the stator plate) changes the ignition timing. Tomos provides adjustment slots in the stator plate, and timing marks (thin angled black lines) on the crankcase (minimum and maximum ignition timing), at about the 10 o’clock position. An ignition timing strobe light is the only way to check the ignition timing. The strobe light illuminates the fast moving flywheel mark only for an instant. So it appears, magically, to be not moving. The fire mark on the flywheel should lie between the black lines on the case. It should not jump around. The light should not flicker. Once the stator is set in the desired position and the screws are tightened, the timing is set forever, and never needs adjusting (that is assuming the flywheel locating key is in its proper place and the flywheel nut is fully tight). Unlike the A35, the A55 ignition does have a pulser coil that signals the control unit when it’s time to spark. It’s an external pulser (or exciter or trigger) coil that senses a raised strip on the outer edge of the steel flywheel/rotor. So changing the stator position does not change the ignition timing. The A55 external pulser is fixed and mounted in a way that prevents it from being adjusted.   

 

Figure 6a: A55 “no battery” ignition exploded view       Figure 6b: Same ignition shown in a semi-schematic diagram

         There are about ten different Tomos magnetos for the A35 and A55 engine series. They are all covered in detail in the wiring diagrams collection that this written text supplements. There are also a few more for the earlier A3 models. Before 1986, Tomos A3 mopeds had an external ignition ground that powered the brake light. On those early models if you unplugged the brake light, and then squeezed either brake, the engine would lose spark and cut out. Those early A3’s, with 3-wire magnetos, yellow,  black, and blue, often need the blue magneto wire to be grounded in order to have spark.  After ‘86, all Tomos magnetos are 2-wire magnetos, yellow and black, with no external ground, one less worry.        

Ignition timing

      The spark occurs a little before the piston reaches top. That explains ignition timing in one simple sentence. Spark happens before top because the gasoline and air take a tiny bit of time to burn. If the spark happened right at the top of the piston stroke (“top dead center” or TDC), the engine would run, but be weak. If the spark happened twice as early as it should, the engine would run, but be weak and run hot. There’s a preferred range where the “porridge is just right”. Expressed in terms of crankshaft angle, the preferred ignition timing is between 10 and 20 degrees before top. Imagine the flywheel is a pie. Cut the pie in six pieces and you have 60 degree slices. Cut one of those pie slices in three thin slices. That would be a 20 degree angle. That thin slice is a little less than an inch wide on the edge of the flywheel. The time taken for the wheel to move that much is about the time taken for the gas to ignite. At 6000 rpm the piston rises every 0.01 second. Expressed in actual seconds, at 6000 rpm, the spark occurs .01*20/360 = 0.00055 seconds before the piston reaches top. That’s half of a thousandth of a second. You don’t need to know that to fix mopeds, but it makes the lesson interesting and amazing. The faster the engine turns, the less time the fuel has to burn. Because of this, most gasoline engines have variable ignition timing, rather than fixed timing. Four stroke engines like the timing to be about 10 degrees at idle, advancing to about 35-40 degrees at high rpms. They have vacuum advancers, centrifugal advancers, and electronic control units (ECU), to vary the ignition timing automatically. Two stroke engines like the timing to be about 20 degrees at idle, retarding to 10 degrees at high rpms. The explanation is better atomization at higher engine speeds makes smaller fuel droplets which take less time to burn. Before 1994, Tomos A35 mopeds had points, with fixed ignition timing, 20 degrees BTDC. From 1996 on, they had Iskra CDI, with variable ignition timing, 20 deg at idle changing to 10 degrees above about 6000 rpm. The only way to see the timing is with a strobe light made for automobile ignition timing checking. To actually measure the degrees, cars use a thing called a “degree wheel” that attaches to the crankshaft. Any piece of paper with accurate degree lines can be attached to the flywheel, but putting it in the exact correct position is difficult. There’s a clever and simple procedure for finding top. A tool called a piston stop is screwed into the spark plug hole. The crankshaft is rotated by hand until the piston is parked up against the stop. A line is made on the flywheel, adjacent to any chosen case mark. Then the crankshaft is turned by hand the other way until the piston is again parked up against the piston stop. A second line is made on the flywheel adjacent to the case mark. Then a tape measure is laid around part of the flywheel to find the midpoint between the two marks. That is “top dead center”. Fortunately the Tomos flywheels already have inscribed timing marks, one for top, one for fire, spaced 20 degrees apart. The F mark should be between the crankcase marks, when viewed with the strobe. The newer A55 engine mopeds have the same ignition timing but it is not adjustable like the A35 is. That’s Tomos saying don’t mess with a good thing.

            Normally, ignition timing is never an issue with CDI ignition 1994-later Tomos mopeds. That is because those magnetos are maintenance free. It is, however, often an issue on the earlier points-ignition models. This is because the ignition timing gets retarded as the points rubbing block wears down. So points need adjustment (spread apart to have more “gap”), and lubing with high melting point grease, every few thousand miles. Besides that, they can be adjusted wrong. The points are designed to open at the right moment in a running engine, when at fully open in a stationary engine they have a gap of .014 to .017 inch (.35 to .45mm). In a magneto with points ignition, the spark happens when the points open, not close. That is essential to know. You can spot check the ignition timing of a points model with nothing but a pen and a flashlight. Find TDC with the pen in the spark plug hole. Rotate backward 20 degrees and see if the points are just starting to open there. In both points-ignition and CDI ignition, the flywheel can be installed in the wrong position on the crankshaft by leaving out the little locating pin. That’s not a normal thing. Neither is running with a loose flywheel nut until the pin shears off and ruins the crankshaft and flywheel. Ouch. It’s also not normal to have some other flywheel, like from a Puch, Sachs, or aftermarket one that has no timing marks or is sparking at the wrong time. A bunch of different moped flywheels will fit the Tomos crankshaft, but they might have the wrong ignition timing because of a different point cam angle. Some stator plates can be installed upside down, making the timing 180 degrees off. Only in these not-normal circumstances you might need to mark the flywheel and check the ignition timing.

Ignition symptoms

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General Service

August 21, 2011

Welcome to Myrons Mopeds service department. Free service information is here. Use at your own risk.

How to Diagnose a Moped     

by Shaun Strahm, Jan 2008         This is a brief two-page universal diagnosis procedure. Details are omitted.

 

Engine: Compression, solidness, smoothness can be felt by hand. Good = solid & smooth. Bad =loose or rough.

Locate the magneto flywheel or the center part of the clutch wheel. That’s the crankshaft. It should turn freely with your fingers, except every turn it should require almost a whole hand to squeeze the air above the piston. It should spring back in both directions in the region from mid stroke to top. Removal of the spark plug allows you to feel only the magnetism in the flywheel, which can feel like compression. Compare the compression with and without your finger over the spark plug hole. With excellent compression you won’t quite be able to hold it all in and it will hiss and make a red circle on your thumb. That’s what over-100psi compression feels like. Low compression can be caused by several things, in order of severity: loose head nuts, decompression valve too tight or leaking, gummed-up stuck rings, worn or damaged rings, worn or damaged cylinder, loose brass wrist pin bushing, or loose wrist pin hole in piston. The decomp valve can be checked by removing the head, tipping it up the combustion chamber facing down, and filling liquid such as WD40 behind the decomp valve. None should leak past until you push it open with your finger. The piston and rings can be visually inspected by removing only the exhaust and looking up the exhaust port. Vertical lines across the rings and piston means it needs at least new rings and maybe a piston and cylinder. A solid black coating on the aluminum piston means the ring grooves are probably also black-coated, causing rings to stick and have low compression. In many cases the compression will be enough to run, but with some issues, in order of severity: needing a bigger idle hole in the carburetor to idle, idling badly, loss of power, making the spark plug get black and need frequent changing , dying out often at idle, even with over-rich idle mixture and a new clean spark plug.

Besides compression, the crankshaft bearings are checked simultaneously by turning the engine over by hand and feeling how solid and smooth it is. Brand new ball bearings feel completely smooth and silent, like a wet ice cube across a smooth countertop. Bad bearings have cavities and pits where the balls roll at, causing them to feel and sound rough, like there’s sand in them. Besides the two main ball bearings on each side there’s a center needle bearing in the big end of the rod. It’s part of the crankshaft assembly, which is expensive $100+, and requires disassembly of the cylinder and piston to isolate its motion and feel it by hand. An engine will run OK with rough bearings but will sound bad, like a blender or a garbage disposal. But there’s a catch. Along with the damaged bearings are also usually bad seals, the rubber rings alongside each crank bearing that seal in the two-stroke crankcase suction and pumping pressure. Leaking crank seals will cause the carburetor to need bigger jets to compensate for dilution of the gasoline-air with fresh air, and to have less power and die out often when idling. One way to check the seals is for one person to pedal the bike, turning the engine rapidly with the spark plug out and carburetor off, while the other person holds their finger over the intake manifold hole and feels how much suction there is. Good is when it’s hard to pull your finger off and it leaves a purple dome suction mark. Besides the seals, the cylinder base and the crankcase can also have compression leaks.

The next thing to check for is looseness of the piston and/or connecting rod. This can be done by lightly touching the top of the piston with the tip of a pen or pencil, through the spark plug hole. With the piston near top, wiggle the wheel back and forth slowly and feel the piston move along with it. There should be no detectable looseness. If there is, then disassembly is needed to tell if it’s the piston pin hole, rod little-end bushing, or rod big-end needle bearing.

The last thing to talk about is the first thing you notice. The engine is frozen and the crankshaft flywheel does not move at all. This happens often when the moped sits outside for a long time and rusts inside the engine, especially after being run without enough oil in the gas. The first step is to put penetrating oil in the spark plug hole and in the intake, then try to rotate the flywheel. If it’s just frozen because of tar, then it will melt away and be OK if it was already OK before it sat up. Mopeds stored outdoors are usually rusted solid and need crankshafts, pistons, and sometimes flywheels, cylinders, and whole engines. It’s ecommended to make a tool to hold onto the flywheel to get it to rotate first before disassembly. Sometimes it “wakes up” with just that. Other times it’s stuck tighter than 100 lbs hanging on a 3 foot bar, about the breaking point of the woodruff key. That’s when you remove the head and exhaust, raise the cylinder and see if it’s rusty in the crankcase or just the piston & cylinder.

Ignition: Does it have spark? Is it blue? Does it happen at the right time (17-25 degrees before top)?

Check for spark by removing the spark plug, plugging the wire on it, laying it on the metal of the engine or frame, and then rotating the engine (turning it over) while observing the spark plug gap. There should be little blue or lavender sparks making audible snaps, every time the wheel goes around. Having a fouled plug can falsify the test. The white porcelain insulator must be clean, dry and white to dark brown, not wet, black, silvery, or bridged with carbon balls. The corners of the electrodes should be sharp, not rounded, with a 0.020” gap, less than a car. When there’s no spark at all, more often than not, on ‘70’s US model mopeds Peugeot, Piaggio/Vespa, Garelli, Cimatti, Derbi, Tomos, and others, it’s a wiring problem with the brake light. The first thing to do is find out if there is a “secret” magneto wire that needs to be grounded. It’s the blue wire on most, except on Peugeot it’s black and on Puch and some Sachs it’s blue and black. With the external ground bypassed directly to ground the spark is re-checked. One more bypass is to disconnect the kill switch, in case it’s “off”. The kill switch grounds the coil wire to kill the engine. After checking the points-to-coil-only wire and coil-to-ground, what’s left is inside the magneto, usually dirty points and sometimes a shorted wire. You can see the points opening and closing through the windows in the flywheel. First determine which way it rotates by rotating the rear wheel and engaging the clutch. See if the arrow on the flywheel is correct. Then find top by feeling the piston through the spark plug hole. It’s hard to find the exact point. Now the points should be open fully. Go forward all the way around again. As the piston rises the points are closed until 20 degrees before top, or about 7/8 inch along the edge of the wheel, after that they’re open to a gap of .012 to .018 inch for about 90 degrees. The spark happens at the moment of opening. You can tell visually if the timing is close enough to run, if the points open a little before top.

Carburetion: Does it have gas? Is it getting through? Or does it have too much?

Once the engine has compression, both primary and crankcase, and it has spark at the right time, then all it needs is some flammable stuff mixed with fresh air. Moped carburetors are frequently crusty with tar or glaze from dried up gas and oil mix. It clogs the tiny holes the gasoline passes through and makes the float stick. Besides tar there’s usually some rust powder from the gas tank and maybe white zinc oxide from the carb itself rusting. So it automatically needs a
carburetor service or at least an inspection. For diagnostic purposes, a flammable spray such as starting fluid (ether), carb spray, or WD40 can be used to start the engine, with a wide-open-throttle no-choke carburetor or without a carburetor. Hearing it run for a few seconds until the spray is consumed is good way to quickly know if it will “live”.

Very often a moped will become flooded. This is a condition where excess gasoline and oil have built up, and not enough fresh air is getting in. The thing to do is to keep cleaning the spark plug with carb spray. Once it gets wet it becomes ineffective. Pedal starting rapidly with a dry spark plug, wide open throttle, no air filter, no choke. Once it starts popping you should keep the throttle wide open until it cleans itself out, in maybe 15 to 30 seconds. Healthy bikes can become flooded from leaving the choke on or lying over with the gas left on. Not healthy bikes can become flooded from gasoline leaking past the float, or from too big of a jet,  clogged exhaust, faulty ignition, low compression, or a little of everything. Removal of the exhaust really helps a lot. It’s often full of oil or black gasoline anyway. You have to start a flooded bike to know whether it will clear out after it runs awhile or whether it will keep getting flooded.

The test ride: Does the transmission work? Is it making full power? Are the frame, wheels, brakes and lights OK?

Now that the engine runs, a test ride is needed to learn what’s working or not. First the tires are aired. The wheels are checked for looseness. Cables, throttle, and chain are oiled. The forks and handlebars are checked for looseness and adjusted straight. When riding, see if it pulls to one side (bent fork), is wobbly (loose rear wheel, spokes or wheel bearings), oscillates (bent rim or lumpy tire), stops poorly (oil film or rust on brake drums), goes slow (clogged exhaust, timing way off, something rubbing). Ride it long enough, say 10-15 minutes, to let it wake up. Check the head light, speedometer light, tail light, brake light, horn, and speedometer. Finally, see if it goes full speed, usually 25-30mph.

 


Carburetor and Gas Tank Service

August 21, 2011

Welcome to Myrons Carburetor and Gas Tank Service Section. Carburetors and gas tanks get coated with sticky brown residue (tar, varnish, or gum) from gasoline and oil decomposing during years of storage. Steel gas tanks rust inside. Rust flakes damage gas valves (petcocks). Rust powder goes through fuel filters and clogs the tiny 0.010 to 0.025″ jet holes that the gasoline sprays through. Rust particles and fibers from cloth or hair can also make the float valve not shut off, causing a gas leak.

Carburetor Gas Leaks:  Most (but not all) gas leaks are from float valves not shutting off. A good working float and float valve assembly will float up and shut off the supply of gasoline before the level gets as high as the float bowl gasket. If the bike is standing up stationary, it would not matter whether it even had a bowl gasket. The float bowl gasket is for when the bike is leaned or the moved around, sloshing the gasoline inside.

How to Clean Gas Tanks

Warning: The following procedures are difficult and dangerous. You can easily harm your health, get blinded, or ruin the bike. Read all warning labels. Acetone especially is a very strong solvent. It’s the main ingredient of fingernail polish remover. It will instantly dissolve decal ink or spray paint. It will ruin rubber by making it swell up. It will etch (eat away the surface) paint and plastics quickly. Baked on factory paint takes a minute to be etched. Wear eye and skin protection and have cloth towels ready to catch any dribbles. Nothing else that’s safer than acetone or methyl ethyl ketone (MEK) will dissolve the tar. This is how Myrons Mopeds cleans gas tanks. These techniques may not be safe or appropriate for everyone. Use these prodedures at your own risk.

1. With the old gas still in it, shake up the gas tank. On a frame-tank moped, shake the entire bike by tipping it up on it’s nose (front tire), while holding the front brake, balancing the bike on it’s front wheel. This gets the solid material (rust flakes mostly) off the bottom and into the liquid about to be drained out. Do this just before removing the gas valve, so rust powder won’t have time to settle back to the bottom.

2. Remove the gas valve and drain the old gas out, with shaking. Look at what came out. Pure fresh gasoline is clear, colorless, and smells like gas. Fresh gas put into a tarry gas tank turns yellow after a few days. Yellow tint means tar is present. Cloudy means water is present. Solid brown, black, or orange particles or flakes are rust. Two-stroke oil is usually colored so it tints the gasoline, so you can tell how much oil is present by looking at it. A 50:1 mix of Champion tints the gas slightly green. Twice as much oil makes it twice as green.

3A. Cloudy only – water:  Air dry the tank. Compressed air and summer sun help. Optional: Acetone or MEK 8oz rinse removes water quickly, no waiting.

3B. Dark color only – oil: Replace gasoline with correct mix, usually 50:1. Adding oil reduces the odor of gasoline. Pure gas smells strongest.

3C. Particles only – rust: Water flush with full blast garden hose to float out any loose rust flakes. Put the hose in the empty tank first before turning it on. Tip the bike so the water overflows to the side and not all over the bike. When “all” of the tar and loose flakes are removed it’s ready for EvapoRust. It’s a water-based product that chemically disolves rust, while not promoting re-rusting. Between a pint and a quart of Evaporust plus a two quarts of water almost fills a one gallon tank. Soak it for a day while shaking it vigorously (turning it upside down) once in a while. Then drain it out. Hose it with water from a garden hose. Remove all water ASAP before new rust can form. Use air, sun, or acetone for that. See above.

3D. Yellow color – tar: Soak the tank with acetone. Acetone costs $16/gallon, so it’s wise to cut it to 1/2 acetone and 1/2 gasoline, called a “cocktail”. With the gas valve hole plugged add the cocktail. Let sit for a day or so, with occasional shaking. On a frame-tank moped, tip it up on it’s fron wheel every half hour for 12 hours, or equivalent. Drain it out into a pan, with shaking. Examine how yellow and how much rust. Repeat as necessary. This is much easier said than done.

4. Additional techniques: A “whacker” is a 20″ piece of cable or a wire coat hangar spinning on a drill. It is useful for knocking rust flakes off the walls. A “chain” is a way of reaching to the far bottom, shaking or agitating vigorously, and then pulling it back out, thus stirring up the stew. A “pea light” is a tiny light small enough to pass through the 8mm gas valve hole, with stiff wires and a battery, for viewing the inside of the gas tank. You can sometimes see blobs of dark brown tar at the bottom, occasionally as big as a hand. A “geyser” is on a really bad tarry tank after a cocktail has soaked, you put a garden hose at the bottom of the tank, then turn it on full blast while tipping the bike away from you. The tar froth is lighter than water, and comes bursting out the open gas lid hole in a orange-brown geyser. The geyser gets the tar out the large top hole faster than repeated drainings out the tiny bottom hole. The geyser will make the ground orange colored and is not very environmentally friendly. Use your own judgement.

5. Professional Help: “Hot Tank” is what some radiator shops have to clean parts in.  Hot tank will ruin decals and paint. “Sand Blasting” is what some radiator and automotive shops have. It also damages the paint and can miss hard to reach places. Either way you would have to remove the tank (or strip the frame bare, if the frame is the tank).

6. Holes in tank: Rust can go all the way through the steel wall and form a blister under the exterior paint. Sometimes the act of cleaning the tank causes leaks, which were there already but not active. When you see little mounds, bumps, especially near the bottom, it means that the gas is held in only by the paint. A leak could happen anytime. Just poke one with a pointed steel ”poker” like a large safety pin or a sharpened nail. A light push will pierce through. Fortunately epoxy will seal the hole, once the area is clean and free of paint. It’s better to pierce the hole besides cleaning it, so the epoxy will form a plug. Mix a 50/50 two-part epoxy for bonding metal like JB Weld or PC-7, not the clear kind.

What “rinse” means: On a frame-tank moped, “rinse” means first making a plug for the gas valve hole out of a bolt and a piece of fuel line, plugging the gas valve hole, adding the rinsing agent, which is acetone, tipping the bike up on it’s nose, sloshing the liquid violently to get the upper part of the tank, then setting the bike down, immediately pulling the plug off and draining out the rinse, while shaking the bike. Repeat the process until nothing bad comes out.

5. Not-frame Gas Tanks: If you can remove your gas tank from the frame, cleaning is much easier. Shaking it and seeing inside is easy. Pointed screws can be added to a mix of acetone and gasoline, then shaken vigorously. Dry wall screws are better than rocks because rocks leave sand grit behind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Left, a Motobecane tank, cut in half, is packed solid with tar. Right, a tank cleaning “geyser” of acetone, tar, and water.

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Wiring Diagrams and Electrical

August 21, 2011

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Welcome to Myrons Wiring Diagrams Gallery. Mopeds have strange electrical wiring. Many have “secret” wires that must be grounded to run. Many have switches that normally would turn off something, but instead they turn on something (brake light or horn). Most of the wiring diagrams explain this, when it applies. This “secret wire that must be grounded to run” system is only on most 1970′s and 1980′s US models. The reason for this craziness is that European mopeds do not need brake lights, but US ones do. So many kinds power the brake light from the back side of the ignition source coil. One kind, Puch 77-later, 6-wire, powers the horn from the back side of the ignition source coil. So on a 77-on Puch, if you unplug the horn and push the horn button, the engine dies. Besides loosing spark, older mopeds also often burn out light bulbs. That is because a magneto generator alone, without a battery or regulator, ranges from dim lights at idle, to bright at full speed. So your bulbs are either too dim, or else they burn out a lot.

Modern (1990-later) mopeds don’t have the old moped wiring problems. They run a more powerful magneto, 70-80 watts instead of 30-40. All the lights run off one wire, with a 12VAC voltage regulator. To keep the voltage below about 13V, the regulator passes any excess current into the frame where it’s mounted. So when most of the lights are off, the frame is being warmed a lttle. This “regulation by wasting” system is common on motorcycles but not automobiles. Also nothing that the lights do ever matters to the ignition. Magneto ignitions after about 1993 are CDI (Capicitor Discharge Ignition) instead of points. They’re also maintainence free and have easier starting.

Many dozens more wiring diagrams will be added to the gallery soon. Eventually “all” US-model known mopeds will have a wiring diagram. Colorized and enhanced with notes is yet an even higher goal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Magneto Wires Chart above is like a master key that unlocks a lot of different mopeds. Knowing the color and function of the magneto wires allows a moped engine to be “hot-wired” to run without any of the bikes wires. (The chart will eventually include flywheel threads for pullers, and more models: Trac, Kreidler, Vespa and others.)

“Hot wiring” is the same as making an engine run, say on a work bench, completely separate and disconnected from the bike. Certain magneto wires matter, and must go to certain places. Other magneto wires are for lights only. The ignition wire must always go from the magneto (points, condenser, and source coil) to the spark coil, and not also to ground. The ignition ground wire must always go from the magneto (source coil ground) to ground. You can make this happen easiest with alligator clips on the ends of wires, like little jumper cables, called clip leads. To make any moped motor run on a work bench, you need some clip leads, a spark coil, a good spark plug, and the knowledge of what each magneto wire does. For example, on most Puchs, blue is ignition, and blue/black is ignition ground. On a Garelli, black is ignition and blue is ignition ground. On a Derbi, green is ignition and blue is ignition ground. Sometimes the wire colors are faded to grey, dark brown, or black. Then slice some skin off with a sharp knife to expose the true color inside.


Service

August 20, 2011

Welcome to Myrons Mopeds service department. Free service information is here.