Steering

May 14, 2015

Bicycles are external, motorcycles are internal.

Welcome. Steering bearings on most bicycles are external type, where the bearings lie outside the frame head tube (which is “not stepped”). Steering bearings on most motorcycles are internal type, where the bearings lie inside the frame head tube (which is “stepped”). All mopeds have the bicycle type steering bearings, except Derbi, which has motorcycle type.

Balls Up or Balls Down is the famous question faced when installing retainer (caged) ball bearings. The lower bearing always faces balls down, but the top bearing is sometimes facing up, and sometimes facing down. When it is installed wrong the cage gets crushed. The answer is: the balls always face the “cone” and not the “cup”, regardless of “up” or “down”. Sometimes the upper frame race is a “cone”, sometimes it is a “cup”.

Any bearing, when pushed together lightly with your fingers, should feel like the balls are rolling. Nothing should feel like it’s scraping or sliding. When you see the balls rolling at half the rotation speed, and the feel is solid and smooth like an ice cube on a smooth table, then the bearing is correct and good. 

Caged Balls or Loose Balls can be interchanged. The cage/retainer is a convenience, that keeps the balls from falling out during installation. If the retainers are the wrong size, or bent, but the balls are correct, the balls can be popped out, and installed using grease to hold them. When the cage is eliminated, almost twice as many balls are required, enough to fill the circle with a half to one ball gap. This has another big benefit on worn out races that have dents where each ball was at. When the number of balls changes, say from 14 to 26, the dents do not line up anymore. So it’s almost like having a new race.

Bicycle headset threads and dimensions, from Sutherlands

Bicycle headset threads and dimensions, from Sutherlands Handbook

Slight Differences in steering threads have frustrated many bicycle and moped mechanics trying to substitute steering parts from one machine to another. At right is a chart of bicycle headset threads and sizes. Basically the whole world uses ISO threads, one inch with 24 threads per inch (25.4 x 1.06), except France (25.0 x 1.00), Austria (26.0 x 1.00), Raleigh (25.4 x 1.02), and motorcycles (24.0 x 1.00). None of these thread sizes interchange. They either won’t screw on, or they will screw on loosely, and later slip around and “strip”. 

Slight Differences in “30mm” frame cups, from 30.0 to 30.2 millimeters, turn out to not matter, ordinarily. Only when the fit is already too loose on a 30.2, or too tight on a 30.0, would it matter.

30.0 replacing 30.2: Take a moped frame that has 30.2 cups and pound one cup out with a hammer and punch, alternating sides. Then take a 30.0 cup and hammer it in. You will only have to strike it about half as hard, because it has a looser press fit. It will hammer out easier.

30.2 replacing 30.0: Take a moped frame that has 30.0 cups and pound one cup out with a hammer and punch, alternating sides. Then take a 30.2 cup and hammer it in. You will have to strike it about twice as hard, because it has a tighter press fit. It will hammer out less easy.

There is much confusion about what is 30mm, the cup outer, or the frame inner. A frame for 30.0 cups can be 29.7 to 29.9 mm inner diameter (id). A frame for 30.2 cups can be 29.9 to 30.1. Some cups are made in between, 30.1 mm. The cups for sale below are classified as “30.0 cups” if they measure 29.9 to 30.15 mm. They are classified as “30.2 cups” if they measure 30.16 to 30.25 mm.

Slight Differences in “32.5mm” frame cups, from 32.5 to 32.7 millimeters, turn out to not matter, ordinarily. They range from 32.5 to 32.7, with most around 32.6. 

 

 

1. #52     2. #65     3. #73     4. “Euro”

Bearing Retainers

1   #52 retainer, 15 – 3/16″ balls  31.5 id      $5.00
For traditional American bicycles, AMF, Colombia, etc.

2   #65 retainer, 15 – 3/16″ balls  28.5 id      $2.00
For traditional Schwinn bicycles, BMX, and low-end ATB.

3   #73 retainer, 16 – 5/32″ balls  29.0 id      $1.50
For traditional ten-speed bicycles, standard bikes, childrens.
A good substitute for the European 14 – 5/32″ ball retainer.

4   “Euro” retainer, 14 – 5/32″ balls 27.0 id    $8.00
This is like a #73 retainer with an inner lip for stiffness.

Loose Balls

1   5/32 inch (#5) balls (3.97mm), pack of 26        $2   26 loose 5/32″ balls can replace a “Euro” 14-ball retainer. 
For light duty moped and bicycle headsets.                 26 loose 5/32″ balls can replace a #73 16-ball retainer.

2   3/16 inch balls (4.76mm), package of 26          $2   22 loose 3/16″ balls can replace a #65 15-ball retainer. 
For heavy duty headsets, and some wheels.                22 loose 3/16″ balls can replace 21 loose 5mm balls

3   5 millimeter balls (5.00mm),  pack of 21           $5   21 loose 5mm balls can replace 22 loose 3/16″ balls
For Puch Magnum, Sears Free Spirit, and Tomos.          More balls, or bigger balls, can carry more weight.

 

 

Headsets and PartsMyrons Shirt green

In ascending order of thread size (fork), then cup size (frame).

After years of ignorance and misunderstanding, moped headset items have been identified, measured, verified, and presented below. With these measurements and specifications, it is possible to find correct replacements by measuring their sizes precisely with a calipers or a micrometer, and then matching it with the pictures and or brand names below, hopefully. These things have to be somewhat precise. If something is too tight it might not go on. If it’s too loose, or mismatched, the bike might be difficult to control, or be unpleasant to ride.

 

24.0 x 1.00 mm thread

 

Left: External Bearings Right: Internal Bearings

Derbi           24.0 x 1.00 (0.94″- 25.4 tpi), internal

Derbi mopeds have internal steering bearings, like motorcycles have. You can see on the Derbi at the right, the bearings are not visible. But on the Sparta Foxi on the left, the steering bearings are visible above and below the frame head tube. The Sparta has external steering bearings, as do all other mopeds.

Japanese motorcycles usually have this 24×1 thread on the top nut, but further down the steering tube steps up to 25×1 or 26×1 or bigger, where the bearings go.

 

 

25.0 x 1.00 mm thread

 

Peugeot Headset, 25-1.0 thread, 30.0 cups

Peugeot headset, 25-1.0 thread, 30.0 cups

Peugeot       25.0 x 1.00 (0.98″- 25.4 tpi), 30.0 cups

1         51974  complete set #2-10                   $40
2         48684  top chrome cap, press fit            $10-$18
3         51646  lock nut, 5 tall, 32 hex                 $5-$7
4         56118  lock washer serrated                   N/A
5         91783  adjustable cone chrome               $4-$6
5a  This little “nub”, from Peugeot bicycles, must be ground off.
5a  It goes into a ring of holes, a special “holey” washer, not #4.
6         91778  upper frame cup chrome 30.0 od  $8
7        91502a upper balls, 26 – 5/32″ 3.97mm   $2 or use #73
8         91502  lower “Euro” retainer 14-5/32″    $8 or use #73
9         46840  lower frame cup chrome 30.0 od  $8
10       14512  lower cone (crown race)  26.7 id  $5-$8
30.0 cups will replace 30.2 ones. They just press in easier.

Motobecane headset, 25-1.0 thread, 30.2 cups

Motobecane 25.0 x 1.00 (0.98″- 25.4 tpi), 30.2 cups

1         23312  partial set #3,5,6,7,8,9              N/A
2         15528  top plastic cap, press fit            $10–$18
3         15526  lock nut, 32 octagonal                $6
4         00000  plain washer 25x35x1                 $2
5        23016a adjustable cone, zinc plated       $8-$12
6        23016b upper frame cup, zinc   30.2 od  $7
7         00005  upper balls, 26 – 5/32″           $2/26 or use #73
8         00005  lower balls, 26 – 5/32″           $2/26 or use #73
9         14208  lower frame cup, zinc   30.2 od  $7
10       19859  steering tube with lower race       N/A
11       14606  lock plate/washer                       $4
12       14605  pivot bolt M20-1.0, 32 oct          $15

 

Vespa Grande set, 25- 1.0 thread, 33.0 cups

Vespa Grande set, 25- 1.0 thread, 33.0 cups

Vespa Grande 25.0 x 1.00 (0.98″- 25.4 tpi), 33.0 cups

Vespa Grande headset is unique, heavy duty, French thread.
3       G68856  chrome cap nut, 32 hex, 25×1    $12-18
3a     000000  Piaggio emblem pressed-in           N/A
4       306912  thin washer for nut                        $3
5       G21316  adjustable cone, 25×1, notched    $15
6       G22937  upper frame cup, zinc    33.0 od   $7.00
7       G21317  upper balls, 27 – 5/32″ 3.97mm    $2/27
8       G21317  lower balls, 27 – 5/32″ 3.97mm    $2/27
9       G22937  lower frame cup, zinc    33.0 od   $7.00
10     G21315  lower cone (crown race)  25.6 id   $7.00
The Grande crown race is only 25.6 id, and the fork is 25.7.

 

25.4 x 1.06 mm thread

 

Honda PA50 set, 1"-24 thread, 30.0 cups

Honda PA50 headset, 1″-24 thread, 30.0 cups

Honda PA50  25.4 x 1.06 (1.00″- 24.0 tpi), 30.0 cups

The Honda PA50 Hobbit (Camino) is made in Belgium.
It is mostly European in design and components.
3     00000000 chrome cap nut, original              N/A  use bicycle
4     00000000 washer 26x32x1.5                       $3
5     00000000 adjustable cone chrome              N/A  use bicycle
6+9 00000000 frame cup chrome, each 30.0 od $5 2.0 thin wall
7+8 00000000 orig. retainer 14-5/32″ each        $8   
7+8 JB-1909    #73 retainer, 16-5/32″ each        $1.50
10   00000000 lower cone (crown race) 25.7 id N/A
10
This is the original crown race size. It was loose on the fork.
Three samples of Honda PA50 original forks were like this.
The fork steering tube is a straight 25.4mm all the way down.
So there needs to be a 0.15mm hard steel strap under the race.

General headset, 1"-24 thread, 30.0 cups

General headset, 1″-24 thread, 30.0 cups

General            25.4 x 1.06 (1.00″- 24.0 tpi), 30.0 cups

2    1150-5860 chrome cap nut, original             $20  use bicycle
3    1150-5895 stepped notched nut, 31.8 lip      $15
The bottom side of nut #3 has a lip that fits inside #4a.
That’s why the holes in #4 and #4a are big, 32 not 26.
This lip carries the side loads through the nut threads,
instead of the fork top pressing on the threads directly.
1960’s small Honda motorcycles had this design.
4    1150-5894 plain washer 32x44x0.5               $5
4a  3150-5885 fork top plate, 31.8 hole             N/A
4b  1150-5886 spacer tube  26x41x8                  $7
5    1150-5893 adjustable cone chrome             $15
6    1150-5892 upper frame cup chrome 30.0 od $15
7+8 1150-5890 loose balls, 23 – 3/16″ 4.76mm   $2/26
9    1150-5891 lower frame cup chrome 30.0 od $15
10   JB-2742    lower cone (crown race)  27.0 id   $7
Asian mopeds use the Japan Industry Standard (JIS). General, Lazer, Grycner, Clinton, Jui Li, AMS, Tas, Tym, etc.

Tange Levin CDS Headset

Tange Levin CDS sealed precision headset

Bicycle (JIS)  25.4 x 1.06 (1.00″- 24.0 tpi), 30.0 cups

JB-35496  EC30/27 Tange Levin sealed headset $30
0000000   upper frame cone black  30.0 od        N/A
0000000   lower frame cup chrome 30.0 od        N/A
0000000   lower cone (crown race) 27.0 id        N/A
JIS stands for Japan Industry Standards.
JIS crown races are 27.0 id, for a 27.1 fork.
JIS frame cups are 30.0, for a 29.9 frame.

 

Bicycle (ISO)  25.4 x 1.06 (1.00″- 24.0 tpi), 30.2 cups

Headset PartsJB-35495  EC30/26 Tange Levin sealed headset $30
0000000   upper frame cone black  30.2 od        N/A
0000000   lower frame cup chrome 30.2 od        N/A
0000000   lower cone (crown race) 26.35 id       N/A
ISO stands for International Standards Organization. 
ISO cups are 30.2 mm o.d, for a 30.1 mm i.d frame.
ISO crown races are 26.4 id, for a fork crown 26.5 od.

Nuts and Washers:
A   0000000  thin lock nut, for spacing, 1″-24, oct     $2.00
B   JB-35705  Origin8 black open top nut, 1″-24, oct  $2.00
C   JB-3510    Wald 220 chrome open nut 1″-24, oct  $5.00
D   0000000  keyed thick washer 26x34x3                 $1.00
E   0000000  plain thin washer 26x32x1.5                 $1.50
F   0000000  plain thick washer 26x33x2.5                $2.00

Batavus headset, 1"-24 thread, 30.0 cups

Batavus headset, 1″-24 thread, 30.1 cups

Batavus  25.4 x 1.06 (1.00″- 24.0 tpi), 30.1 cups

Batavus mopeds are made in Holland.
1     47.043.00 partial headset #3-10               N/A
2     46.306.00 plastic plug for nut                     N/A
3     02.059.00 chrome open nut, original     $5-10  use bicycle
4     06.055.00 washer 26x34x1.5                      $3
5     47.043.04 adjustable cone chrome             N/A  use bicycle
6     47.043.03 upper frame cup, zinc 30.1 od  N/A use Peugeot
7+8 47.096.00 orig. retainer 14-5/32″ each       $8   
7+8 JB-1909   #73 retainer, 16-5/32″ each        $1.50
9     47.043.02 lower frame cup, zinc 30.1 od  N/A use Peugeot
10   47.043.01 fork cone (crown race) 26.5 id $12 use bicycle
11   46.117.00 spring strap/sleeve 1.0/0.35      N/A
The fork steering tube is a straight 25.5mm all the way down.
The strap crushes to 0.5 mm, so it adds up, 26.5 = 25.5 + 2*0.5.
The ideal spring strap for Batavus would be 0.5mm.

Trac headset, 1"-24, 30.0 & 30.2

Trac headset, 1″-24, 30.0 and 30.2 cups

Trac          25.4 x 1.06 (1.00″- 24.0 tpi), 30.2 cups

Trac mopeds are made in Korea by Kia and Dae Lim (DMC).
This example is for the early Tracs 1982-85 with M56 engines.
3  90305-M56-8900 chrome cap nut, orig. hex  N/A use bicycle
4  90503-M56-8900 washer 26 x 37 x 1            $3
4a 90304-M56-8900 notched thin nut               N/A use octag.
5  53211-M56-8900 adjustable cone chrome     N/A use bicycle
6  50301-M56-8900 upper cup chrome 30.2 od  N/A
7  96211-05000      upper balls, 26- 5/32″ #5  $2/26 or use #73 
8  96211-05000      lower balls, 26- 5/32″ #5  $2/26 or use #73 
9  50302-M56-8900 lower cup chrome 30.0 od  N/A
10 53212-M56-8900 cone (crown race) 25.5 id  N/A
This is the original crown race size, but it was loose on the fork.
The fork steering tube is a straight 25.4 mm all the way down.
The looseness had caused a 25.3 mm wear groove on the tube.
To be tight it needs a spring strap and a bigger race, like Batavus.

Cimatti set, 1"-24 thread, 30.2 cups

Cimatti headset, 1″-24 thread, 30.2 cups

Cimatti         25.4 x 1.06 (1.00″- 24.0 tpi), 30.2 cups

Cimatti’s are Italian, and use Italian headset standards.
Cups are 30.2, for a 30.1 frame. Same as bicycle.
3     18-00-51  chrome cap nut, 32 octagon        $20
4     18-01-18  plain washer, 26x30x1.5                $3
4a    xx-xx-xx  spacer tube, 26x29x9                   N/A
5     12-00-65  adjustable cup chrome                $12
6     12-00-62  upper frame cone, zinc   30.2 od    $8
7+8 10-00-39   orig. retainer 14-5/32″ each         $8 
7+8 JB-1909    #73 retainer, 16-5/32″ each         $1.50
9     12-00-63  lower frame cup chrome  30.2 od $20
10   12-00-64  fork cone (crown race)    26.5 id  $12
11
Italian crown race is 26.5 id, for a fork crown 26.6 od.
ISO (International Standards Org.) threads are 1″- 24 tpi.

Garelli headset, 1"-24 thread, 30.2 cups

Garelli headset, 1″-24 thread, 30.2 cups

Garelli          25.4 x 1.06 (1.00″- 24.0 tpi), 30.2 cups

Garelli’s are Italian, and use Italian headset standards.
1  507607.2100 complete original set #3-10       $65
1a    000.0000  set with chrome hexagonal nut   $45
2      206.3067  chrome open nut, 32 octagonal    $6
3      000.3086  chrome cap nut, 32 octagonal    $20
4      000.3085  plain washer, 26x30x1.5              $3
5      207.3078  adjustable cup chrome              $12
6      000.3062  upper frame cone zinc   30.2 od  $8
7+8  10-00-39  orig. retainer 14-5/32″ each         $8 
7+8  JB-1909   #73 retainer, 16-5/32″ each         $1.50
9      201.3064  lower frame cup chrome 30.2 od $20
10    000.3065  lower cone (crown race) 26.5 id  $12
One German-made moped, Kynast, uses this headset,
because Kynast (Flying Dutchman) has an Italian fork.

Vespa Ciao set, 1"- 24 thread, 30.2 cups

Vespa Ciao or Bravo, 1″- 24 tpi, 30.2 cups

Vespa Ciao/Bravo  25.4 x 1.06 (1″- 24 tpi), 30.2 cups

Vespa mopeds are made in Italy by Piaggio.
1       135977 partial original set #5-10              $25
3a     145608  chrome cap nut, 32 oct (Bravo)    $20
3       137609  chrome open nut, 32 oct (Ciao)    $18 use bicycle
4a     145607  locking plate, 32 octagon (Bravo)  N/A
5       136258  adjustable cup chrome decagon    $12
6       123315  upper frame cone zinc   30.2 od    $8
7+8 10-00-39  orig. retainer 14-5/32″ each         $8 
7+8 JB-1909   #73 retainer, 16-5/32″ each         $1.50
9       123316  lower frame cup chrome  30.2 od  $12
10     123317  lower cone (crown race)  26.5 id  $10
11   Vespa uses Italian headset standards, 26.5 and 30.2.
12

Schwinn set, 1"- 24 thread, 32.5 cups 1960's rechromed

Schwinn headset
1″- 24, 32.5 cups
1960’s re-chromed

1968 Schwinn Stingray equipped for BMX

1968 Schwinn
BMX equipped

Bicycle, Schwinn 25.4 x 1.06 (1″- 24 tpi), 32.5 cups

In the 50’s – 60’s USA this was a Schwinn-only head set size.In the late 1960’s BMX (bicycle moto cross) began. The first BMX bikes were 20″ kids bikes with off road tires, MX handlebars and seat. The Schwinn Stingray was preferred, because of it’s heavy duty construction and high quality. In the 70’s BMX equipment became Schwinn-compatible, including frames with 32.5 mm headset cups. BMX became very popular, as did the headset. In the 80’s it became the mountain bike (ATB) standard. In the 1990’s bigger 1-1/8″ steering tubes came out on high-end ATB’s, with 34.0 frame cups. Soon 34mm frames became the new ATB standard. Then bigger 1-1/4″ steering tubes and 37mm frames followed. Now this historic headset is almost obsolete.

BMX Headset, 1"-24 thread, 32.5 cups

BMX Headset, 1″-24 thread, 32.5 cups

This is a 1980’s-90’s BMX or ATB headset, 32.5 cups.
The cups fit Puch Magnum, Tomos and Sears Free Spirit.
1   JB-35334-0  EC32/26 Sunlite chrome headset $10
3   JB-35334-3  Sunlite chrome open nut, 32 hex   $5
4   JB-35334-4  keyed washer 26x34x1.5              $1
5   JB-35334-5  adjustable cone chrome               $3
6   JB-35334-6  upper frame cup chrome 32.5 od  $4
7   JB-35334-7  special retainer, 16-5/32″ each     $3
8   JB-35334-7  special retainer, 16-5/32″ each     $3
For 50 years these had #65 retainers, with 3/16″ balls.
9   JB-35334-9  lower frame cup chrome 32.5 od   $6
10 JB-35334-1  lower cone (crown race)  26.4 id   $8
The fit, roundness and finish are surprisingly good.

 

AMF headset, 1″-24 thread, 33.6 cups

Bicycle, American 25.4 x 1.06 (1″- 24.0 tpi), 33.6 cups

1      MP-0014    AMF original headset #3-10        $40
1a   JB-3512       Wald 4080 headset 3a-10 below $15
3     MP-0014-1  chrome AMF open nut, hex         $18
3a   JB-3510       Wald #220 chrome nut, 32 oct     $5
4     MP-0014-1a tab/lock washer                        $2
4a   JB-3503       1 inch keyed washer                  $1
5     MP-0014-2   adjustable cone, zinc                $8
6+9  MP-0014-4  frame cup zinc, each  33.6 od   $15
6a+9a JB-3513    Wald #410 cup, each 33/34 od  $6
7+8  MP-0014-3  #52 retainer 15 – 3/16″, each     $5
10    MP-0014-5  lower cone (crown race) 25.7 id  $7
10a  JB-35345     lower cone (crown race) 26.4 id  $8

Wald headset, 1"-24, 30/33 cups

Wald headset, 1″-24, 32.9/34.3 cups

This standard is on AMF, Colombia mopeds and bicycles.
Also traditional American bicycles, Murray, Huffy, etc.
Wald 4080 headset is for traditional or vintage American.
The Wald 410 replacement frame cups have 3 “bumps”.
The diameter is 32.9 mm, but 34.3 mm at the bumps.
Grind them down to fit any frame from 32.8 to 34.2 mm.

Colombia Fork Crown Race

American Crown Race: Unlike other fork crowns that have a small step at the base of the steering tube, American type bicycles have a smooth flare. The race #10 only touches at the top of the flare, and at the bottom floor of the fork. You can see in the right photo the crown race is cone shaped inside. All other crown races are cylindrical shaped inside. 

If an American type conical crown race is not available, then a 26.4 mm id standard crown race will substitute (at least it did on this fork), thanks to the bottom having enough straight section that is 26.5 mm outer diameter. It sounds crazy that a 26.4 race will substitute for a 25.5 one. That is why this explanation and pictures are needed here.

 

 

 

26.0 x 1.00 mm thread

 

Puch Maxi set, 26 -1.0 thread, 30.8 cups

Puch Maxi   26.0 x 1.00 (1.02″- 25.4 tpi), 30.8 cups

The Puch Maxi headset is the same as Sachs (Hercules).
1   0000000000 partial headset #5-10    see treatland.tv
2   3491300181 chrome open nut                     $7-$15
3   3491305181 chrome cap nut                      $8-$20
4   0009013935 plain washer 26x32x2               $3
5   6001330071 adjustable cone chrome            $3-$5
6+9 6002330051 frame cup, zinc each  30.8 od N/A  2.0 thin wall
7+8 0003298    orig. retainer 14-5/32″ each      $8 
7+8 JB-1909    #73 retainer, 16-5/32″ each      $1.50
10 6002330061 lower cone (crown race) 26.7 id $5-$8
11 3491300151 spring strap/sleeve 1.0/0.35 mm  N/A
Installed, the sleeve becomes 0.35 mm. So 26.7 = 26.0 + 2*0.35
These sizes are the traditional Austrian bicycle headset standard.
The 1984-86 Puch Cobra, was a “Magnum”, but it had this Maxi headset.

Sachs headset, 26-1.0 thread, 30.8 cups

Sachs/Hercules  26.0 x 1.00 (1.02″- 25.4 tpi), 30.8 cups

The Sachs headset is the same as a Puch Maxi headset.
1   5041009701 partial headset #5-10    see treatland.tv
2   9271013516 chrome open nut                     N/A  use Puch Maxi
3   9271013519 chrome cap nut                      N/A  use Puch Maxi
4   9279920817 plain washer 27x37x1.25        N/A
4a 9279919606  spacer ring 27x32x6           N/A
5   000000000 adjustable cone chrome          N/A  use Puch Maxi
6+9 00000000   frame cup, zinc each  30.8 od N/A  2.0 thin wall
7+8 00000000   orig. retainer 14-5/32″ each      $8 
7+8 JB-1909    #73 retainer, 16-5/32″ each      $1.50
10 000000000 lower cone (crown race) 26.7 id $5-$8
11 9219769501 spring strap/sleeve 1.0/0.35 thick N/A
Installed, the sleeve becomes 0.35 mm. So 26.7 = 26.0 + 2*0.35
These sizes are the traditional Austrian bicycle headset standard.

Sparta, KTM 26x1.0 32.0 cups

Sparta, KTM,  26-1.0 thread, 32.0 cups

Sparta/KTM   26.0 x 1.00 (1.02″- 25.4 tpi), 32.0 cups

1     00000000  complete headset #3-10            $35
2     335.01.01  chrome cap nut (Kreidler & KTM)  $10-$18
3     00000000  chrome cap-lug nut (for Sparta) $10-$20
This nut bottom is cone shaped, for centering, like a lug nut.
4     235.01.10  plain washer (for Kreidler & KTM)  $2
5     00000000  adjustable cup, bright zinc          $5-$8
6     235.01.02  adjustable cup chrome (Kreidler) $15
6     00000000  upper frame cone, zinc   32.0 od  $5-$8
7+8 JB-1908    #65 retainer, 15 – 3/16″ each      $2
7+8 00.69.27    22 – 3/16″ balls (Kreidler) each    $2/26
9     00000000  lower frame cup zinc    32.0 od   $5-$8
10   00000000  lower cone (crown race) 26.7 id  $5-$8
New crown races range from 26.65 to 26.74 mm id.

Puch Magnum set, 26-1.0 thread, 32.6 cups

Puch Magnum set, 26-1.0 thread, 32.6 cups

Puch Magnum   26.0 x 1.00 (1.02″- 25.4 tpi), 32.6 cups

Puch Magnum MkII, Sears Free Spirit 8084, 8085, 8086 silver:
3a 3211308181 chrome cap nut (zinc on Sears)  N/A
4b 3211308191 washer 29x35x.75             N/A  above plate
4a 3211308511 spacer 26x32x13.5             $8  below plate
Magnum XK, Sears Free Spirit 8080 blue, 8081,8082,8083 red:
3   3491305181 chrome cap nut                 $8-$20
4        9013935  washer 26x32x2.5              $3 below plate
All Puch Magnums (except Cobra) and Sears Free Spirits:
5   3211307081 adjustable cone zinc 51 od    $15-$20
6+9  25221  frame cup, zinc, each  32.6 od    $25  3.3 thick wall
7+8  25226  loose balls 5mm qty 21 each        $5/21 or use 3/16
10    25220  lower cone (crown race) 26.7 id   $5-$8
11    00000  early Schwinn cup, chrome 32.5  $12  2.0 thin wall
12    02016  Sears Free Spirit cup, zinc  32.6   $15  2.8 thick wall
13    00000  Schwinn/BMX cup, chrome 32.7   $20  2.6 thick wall

Tomos A3 and A35, 26-1.0 thread, 32.6 cups

Tomos 1975-2006  26.0 x 1.0 (1.02″-25.4 tpi) 32.6 cups

Tomos made Puchs, under license, from 1955 to 1974. 
That is why the steering parts also fit Puch Magnum.
3        200718  chrome open nut 32 hex           $8-$12
3a      219349  chrome cap nut 32 hex             $8-$15
4        206701  plain washer 26x36x1.5            $3
5a      200717  notched adjustment nut            $5
5b      200715  dust shield 26x47x9mm             $5
5c      200714  upper cone, no threads 26.0 id   $8
6       200558  upper frame cup, zinc  32.6 od $15  2.6 thick wall
7       044535  upper balls 5mm qty 21            $5
8       044535  lower balls 5mm qty 21            $5
9       200471  lower frame cup, zinc   32.6 od $20  2.6 thick wall
10     200714  lower cone (crown race)  26.0 id $8
11
The 1987-06 Tomos fork has M26-1.0 rolled threads 25.8 od, then smooth 25.1 od, flaring to 26.1 at arrow.
The 1975-86 Tomos fork has M26-1.0  cut  threads 25.8 od, then smooth 26.0 od, flaring to 26.1 at arrow.

Tomos A55 headset, 26-1.0 thread, 32.5 cups

Tomos 2007-2013  26.0 x 1.0 (1.02″-25.4 tpi) 32.5 cups

1        230741  partial headset #4-11               $40
The 2007-12 Parts Catalogs only have the older fork items.
So the 07-on EBR fork items, 10 and 11, are not available.
3       219349  chrome cap nut 32 hex               $8-$15
4       222848  chrome washer 26x36x2             $3
5a     200717  notched adjustment nut              $5
5b     200715  dust shield 26x47x9mm                $5
5c     200714  upper cone, no threads  26.0 id    $8
6      223155  upper frame cup, zinc   32.5 od   $15  2.6 thick wall
7      044535  upper balls 5mm qty 21               $5
8      044535  lower balls 5mm qty 21               $5
9      223157  lower frame cup, zinc   32.5 od   $18  2.6 thick wall
10     00000  lower cone (crown race)  27.4 id  N/A use 26.7-27.0
11     00000  spring strap/sleeve 1.0/0.4 thick   $10 for 27.4 race
The strap crushes down from 1.0 to 0.7 when installed.
So 27.4 = 26.0 + 2*0.7. Ideal strap is 0.7mm thick.
The 2007-13 Tomos fork has M26-1.0 cut threads 25.8 od, then smooth 26.0 od, with no flare.
Instead of a flare or step, it has a #11 spring strap, the same one that a Puch Maxi has.

 

 

28.0 x 1.00 mm thread

 

Vespa Si          28.0 x 1.00 (1.10″- 25.4 tpi)  41.2 cups

This futuristic early 1980’s moped has a bigger steering tube and bearings.
This size was also for an old French tandem, according to http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-headsets.html

3      212152  chrome cap nut 36 oct               $20
4      000000
5      000000
6      000000  upper frame cup, zinc   41.2 od   $15  4.0 thick wall
7      000000  upper balls
8      000000  lower balls
9      000000  lower frame cup, zinc    41.2 od   N/A  4.0 thick wall
10     000000  lower cone (crown race)

 

28.6 x 0.98 mm thread

 

Bicycle (1-1/8″)  28.6 x 0.98 (1.125″- 26 tpi)  34.0 cups

EC34/30. This (1.125″) was the first oversize for 1990’s mountain bikes (ATB), 34.0 cups, 30.0 crown race.

 

 

31.8 x 0.98 thread

 

Bicycle (1-1/4″)  31.8 x 0.98 (1.25″- 26 tpi)  37.0 cups

EC37/33. This (1.25 inch) is the biggest external cup (EC) threaded bicycle headset, 37.0 cups, 33.0 crown race.

 

Dellorto SHA 14/xx, 15/xx

December 24, 2014

 

Dellorto SHA is a family of Italian moped or mini-bike carburetors. SHA’s have flat throttle slides and no jet needles. They all have the same outer size and main body appearance, with a 59mm round flange for an air filter. They have been produced for in Italy from the 1960’s to the 2000’s. In particular the Dellorto SHA 14/12 and 14/9 carburetors were on tens of thousands of US mopeds from 1976 to 1985.

Carburetor Size: The venturi is where the air mixes with gasoline. It is also where the air passage gets narrower, to cause a higher air speed in order to atomize or break up the liquid fuel into smaller droplets. With Dellorto SHA carburetors, two numbers are used to describe the size of the venturi. The first number is the venturi exit, and the second number is the venturi entrance. So looking at an SHA 14/12 from the front you see a 12mm hole, and from the back (engine side) you see a 14mm hole.

Choke Type: The choke is a lever you push or pull, “on” for cold starting, or “off” for normal running. There are three types used on Dellorto SHA carburetors:

A  direct lever  push down lever on carb to put choke “on”, give full throttle to release it “off”
B  linkage lever  same operation as direct lever
C  cable choke  cable goes to a handlebar thumb lever, pull to put choke “on”, let go for “off”  

 

Cable choke is needed when the carburetor choke lever cannot be reached by hand.

Arbeo-Dellorto SHA carbs were made in Spain under license for the Spanish moped Derbi. They were more goldish colored, and tended to leak fuel past the float seat.

Generic SHA: Since the 2000’s there are China made remakes. Most have different screw threads, not Italian-metric. Many have M5-0.80 jet threads, different from Dellorto M5-0.75. The Runtong remake carb has M5-0.75 jet threads. So it can take any Dellorto M5 jet, but many other generics cannot.

 

Original Carburetors

’60-85 Dellorto SHA 14/9 has a lever choke,
20 mm clamp, 16 or 18 sleeve, jet 44, 46 or 48.
Original on 20-25 mph models.

’60-85 Dellorto SHA 14/12 has a lever choke,
20 mm clamp, 16 or 18 sleeve, jet 48, 50 or 52.
Original on 25-30 mph models.

’85-06 Dellorto SHA 14/12P has a linkage choke,
21 mm clamp, 18 sleeve, jet 51 or 53.
Original on 25-30 mph ’85-06 Tomos.

’75-86 Arbeo SHA 12/12 has a lever choke,
20 mm clamp, 18 sleeve, jet 52. Spain 14/12
Original on ’75-86 Derbi models.

’86-90 Arbeo SHA 12/12C has a cable choke,
20 mm clamp, 18 sleeve, jet 54. Spain 14/12C
Original on ’86-90 Derbi models.

 

Replacement Carburetors for Sale


Dellorto SHA 14/12L has a lever choke,
21 mm clamp, 18 sleeve, jet 57, air cover #39
Genuine replacement for SHA 14/12.
Can replace carbs that clamp to 16-19 mm intakes.
$73.0 with 16, 17, or 19 sleeve,  $70.0 with 18 sleeve


Dellorto SHA 14/14R has a cable choke,
19 mm clamp, no sleeve, jet 54, air cover #38d
Replaces Gurtner Motobecane AR2 side-mount.
$90 with choke and throttle cable inner wires


Dellorto SHA 15/15C has a cable choke,
21 mm clamp, 18 sleeve, jet 70, air cover #39
Can replace carbs that clamp to 16-19 mm intakes.
$73 with 16, 17, or 19 sleeve,  $70 with 18 sleeve

 

Clamp size: These new replacement carburetors only clamp tight when the intake pipe is exactly the right size. Many intakes are made slightly smaller or become smaller from wear. When the clamp screw is tightened fully, the carburetor can still move, and eventually slip off. For a 18 sleeve, a 18.00 to 18.10 pipe would clamp tight, but 17.95 or less pipe would not clamp tight. That is not very much forgiveness.

Cut up a can: A strip cut out from an aluminum can, with scissors, can be placed under the sleeve. Thickness is 0.1mm. Either a 1/3 circle or a full circle can be used, as needed. A full circle adds 0.2 to the clamp diameter, for a 17.80 to become 18.00. A 1/3 circle adds 0.1 mm, for a 17.90 to become 18.00. A thin aluminum baking pan is thinner than a can. A thinner full circle is better for when only a little is needed.

Most brand new original Garelli, Minarelli, and Tomos intake manifolds (pipes) are 18.00. But some are 17.95, and actually need a 1/3 strip of aluminum can inserted in order to clamp tight and proper, with new original carburetors.

Cable pipes are for redirecting the throttle cable. Pipe thread is M6-0.75. Adjuster thread is M5-0.75. A throttle cable end can pass through, except 2d. Bikes with front carburetors don’t need them, because the cable goes straight up. Others have gas tanks or floor boards that the cable must go under or around.

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Although some are shown with adjusters, cable pipes do not include #3a pipe adjuster and #3 pipe lock nut.

 

                 P A R T S    L I S T

price colors mean used  new  new
part# colors mean Dellorto, Minarelli, Tomos, other

pic#  price  part#    description
1    $2.00 1476   rubber boot long
1a  $2.00 1476A 219624 rubber boot short
2    $5.00 1104   top adjuster with nut A13 M6-0.75
2a  $13.0 7423   cable pipe Vespa   22×30 90º use 2ar
2ar $6.00 7423r  cable pipe Vespa   22×30 90º 
2b  none  3698   cable pipe 6560    20×28 90º use 2br
2br $16.0 3698r  cable pipe xxxx    20×30 90º
2c  $13.0 3600   cable pipe 6680    long 70º use 2cr
2cr $8.00 243152 cab. pipe Tomos  long 70º 
2d  $7.00 pipe2d cable pipe Derbi   long 70º no adj.
2e  $7.00 80210400 c. pipe Garelli  medium 35º 
2f    $15.0 163515835  pipe GarVIP short 45º
2g  $5.00 pipe2g cable pipe xxxxx  30×27 90º
2h  $5.00 219623 cab. pipe T. A35  med. 70º 
2j   $5.00 pipe2j cable pipe xxxx    med. 32º
2k  none  10854 cable pipe  xxxx    long 50º
2n  none  pipe2n cable pipe xxxx    long 40º
2as $9.00 53036 cable pipe set 1+2ar+a
2cs $14.0 53037 cable pipe set 1+2h+2cr+3a
2ks none  53038 cable pipe set 1+2k+3a 
2js  none  53073 cable pipe set 1a+2j+3a  
2gs $9.00 53040 11630cu   set 1+2g+3a
2fs  none  265146 Malossi   set 1a+2fr     
2ns none  53058 cable pipe set 2n+3b      
3    $3.00 1691   cable pipe nut M6-0.75  special     
3a  $6.00 219625 pipe adjuster with nut M5-0.75
3b  $3.00 1692   pipe adjuster lock nut M5-0.75

pic# part#  price   description
4   3318    $2.00 top screw M4-0.75 x 14 slot not M4-0.7
5   5011    $1.50 narrow washer M4 
6   6110M  $5.00 6320 top bare metal
6a 6110    $5.00 top bare white plastic
6b 6110    none  top bare black plastic
6c 219596 $13.0 top assy black angled 30° 85-06 Tomos
6d top6d   $15.0 top assy metal   6+7+8+9+10
6e top6e   $15.0 top assy white  6a+7+8+9+10
6f  13662  none  top assy black  6b+7+8+9+10
7   6115    $2.00 6510 hinge pin (in top)
8   6259    $2.00 6460 spring choke (in top)
9   6112    $5.00 6450 lever choke trigger


10   6111 00 $4.00 6410 gasket for carb top
11   3346 00 $10.0 6480 spring throttle return
12   6108/64 $12.0 6590 slide throttle #1 metal 219580 25mph
12a 6108/2x $8.00 slide throttle #2 metal 20mph
12b 6108 00 none  slide throttle #12 plastic


13   4190 0  $5.00 6620 screw M5-0.75 x 15 not regular metric
14   3385 0  $1.50 seal washer 5 x 9 for metal banjo not plastic
15   6106 0  $8.00 6530 banjo metal angled out 3/16″
15a 219584 $9.00 banjo inlet metal straight 3/16″
15b 9249 0  $7.00 6535 banjo plastic angled out 3/16″
15c Der15c  none  banjo inlet thick 1/4″ put a thin hose over 15a
16   6109 0  $5.00 6360 filter fuel plastic mesh
17   6304 0  $2.50 6350 nut M6 teardrop most have regular nut
18   6159 0  $3.00 6420 gasket for air filter
19   6105 0  $3.00 6470 spring for choke plate


20   6112    $7.00 choke plate-lever short  type A lever choke
20a 6114    $7.00 choke plate-lever short
20b 7406    none  6580 choke plate-lever long-bent
20c 8026    $7.00 6570 choke plate-lever long   Cimatti type
21   5417    $3.00 6520 pivot step-bolt choke
22   8773    $2.00 hinge pin 6500 Ø2.0 x 16.5 
23a 14148  $7.00 21-16 sleeve, inner lip for 16.00 mm intakes
23b 12914  $7.00 21-17 sleeve, inner lip for 17.00 MB (some)
23c 10811  $7.00 21-18 sleeve, inner lip for 18.00 mm intakes
23d 11362  $7.00 21-18 sleeve, outer lip for 18.00 mm intakes
23e 227324 $5.00 rubber ring,  for 23d  21 x 16 x 3.5 angled
23e 227324 $0.00 only for carbs that have sleeve 23d Tomos
23f  10146  $7.00 21-19 sleeve, inner lip for 19.00 Peugeot, MB
23g 2300    $7.00 21-19 sleeve, outer lip for 19.00 Peugeot, MB
23h 6124    $5.00 20-16 sleeve, inner lip for 16.00 Morini MO1,
23h cont     Demm, Benelli G2, Tomos ’74-85, Batavus M48
23i  6448    $7.00 20-18 sleeve, inner lip for 18.00 Minarelli V1,
23i  cont     Garelli, Tomos ’85-06, Morini M1
23j    19-17 $22.0 19-17 sleeve, inner lip for Motobecane (some)
23k 114482 $12.0 18-16 sleeve, inner lip for Vespa type SHA
24   6305    $2.00 clamp bolt M6-1.00
25   6140    $4.00 idle screw M4-0.70 x 25 regular metric !
26   3606    $2.00 spring idle Ø4 Ø6 x 12


27   2838    $10.0 float needle valve L=17.0

28 jet M5-0.75 thread
Left is genuine, right is aftermarket. The sizes do not agree.
See Dellorto Jets. These are all genuine jets with the INC logo.
28 1486/42 $5.00 jet 42 0.0178″=0.451
28 1486/43 none   jet 43 0.0182″=0.462 pre-78 Ciao & Bravo
28 1486/44 $5.00 jet 44 0.0186″=0.472
28 1486/45 none   jet 45 0.0190″=0.483 78-on Ciao & Bravo
28 1486/46 $5.00 jet 46 0.0194″=0.493
28 1486/47 $7.00 jet 47 0.0198″=0.503
28 1486/48 $5.00 jet 48 0.0202″=0.513 most 20mph mopeds
28 1486/49 $7.00 jet 49 0.0207″=0.525 78-on Vespa Grande
28 1486/50 $5.00 jet 50 0.0210″=0.533 76-80 Garelli (some)
28 1486/51 $7.00 jet 51 0.0215″=0.546 85-91 Tomos late A3
28 1486/52 $5.00 jet 52 0.0219″=0.556 most 30mph mopeds
28 1486/53 $7.00 jet 53 0.0223″=0.566 92-95 Tomos early A35
28 1486/54 $5.00 jet 54 0.0227″=0.577 86-90 Derbi (flat reed)
28 1486/55 none   jet 55 0.0231″=0.587
28 1486/56 $5.00 jet 56 0.0235″=0.597 96-06 Tomos late A35
28 1486/58 $5.00 jet 58 0.0242″=0.615
28 1486/60 $5.00 jet 60 0.0247″=0.627 96-06 Tomos+exhaust
29 6122-80 $18.0  float all white plastic
30 6123-00 $2.00 float gasket ring all new ones are round
31 6107-96 $5.00 float bowl metal
31 13412 0 $5.00 float bowl plastic          
32 3598-36 $4.00 float bowl screw M4-0.75 x 18  not regular metric


33 4611-50 $4.00 cover clamp ∅60 replica with screw
34 4617-36 none  clamp screw M4-0.75 re-thread nut to use #8-32
35   6117   $9.00 air filter metal screen
00x 0 ∅58 id air covers  TL# bare says   color  holes
36   7758   none  cover #0 assy 00 000 black 2-∅10 with #40 tubes
36   7204   none  cover #0 bare 00 000 black 2-∅10, no tubes
36   9887   $10.0 cover #1 bare 00 000 black 2-∅12, no tubes
37   8602   none  cover #7 bare S33 00 black 2-∅12, no tubes
37   0000   none  cover #0 bare S33 00 grey  2-∅12, no tubes
37a 8603   $11.0 cover #5 bare S3 F44 black 2-∅12, no tubes
37a 0000   none  cover #0 bare S3 F44 grey  2-∅12, no tubes
37a 10574 none  cover #0  bare 00 000 black 3-∅12, no tubes
37b 8632   none  cover #0  bare 00 000 black 2-∅12, no tubes
38   5660   $32.0 cover #0  bare S1 Min gray  2-
38   5660   $25.0 cover-clamp S4 S1 Min gray  2-
38   5660M $15.0 cover-clamp S4 S1 Min black 2-
38a 5346   $12.0 cover #3 bare F27 00 black 2-∅12, no tubes
38b 5199   none  cover #0 bare 10236  black 2-∅12, no tubes
38c 9723   none  cover #6 bare Garelli  black 2-∅10, no tubes
38d 53056 $21.0 cover #4 assy F51 00 black 2-∅12 with #41 tubes
38e 12971 none  cover #2 bare F49  00 black
39   53051 $17.0 air cap, clip, screen set
39a 6183   $10.0 air cap only ∅58 ID
39b 6235   $6.00 clip only
40   7195   $7.00 air inlet tube small Ø8 Ø10 x 20
41   5309   $8.00 air inlet tube large Ø9 Ø12 x 50

42
42    060420 $22.0 air filter, fits 96-06 Tomos, needs a bigger jet
43C  53057   $8.00 cable choke plate set type C  43a+43b+21
43a  plate43  $6.00 cable choke plate only  type C
43b spring43 $3.00 cable choke spring only
44B  223025 $7.00 pivot shaft w/linkage  type B, gets rounded
45B  223027 $2.00 spring for pivot shaft  type B 
46B  223026 none  choke plate xxxxxxx type B
47B  223028 $7.00 choke lever external B, gets hourglass-shaped
48B  031930 $1.00 lock washer M4  B, better to weld 46,47,49
49B  031073 $1.00 nut M4-0.70      B, better to weld 46,47,49

a
50 gset50 $7.00 gasket set SHA14   10, 14, 30
51  52533 $10.0 gasket set pre-’85  10, 14, 30, 18, 18, 1a, 55, 56
51  52533 $10.0 for older SHA14 pre-1985 with 20mm clamp size
52  52579 $12.0 gasket set post-85 10, 14, 30, 18, 23e, 23e, 57
52  52579 $12.0 for newer SHA14 1985-on with 21mm clamp size

55  ring55 $2.00 square rubber ring 14 x 20 x 2.0 for some pre-85
55  ring55 $2.00 only for 20mm intakes (when no sleeve is installed)
56  ring56 $1.00 tiny rubber o-ring  3 x 6.5 x 1.75 only for  ?
57  ring57 $2.00 square rubber ring 15 x 21 x 2.0 for some post-85
57  0-ring57 $2.00 only for 21mm intakes (when no sleeve is installed)


Tomos 85-95 A3+A35
51 219374 $10.0 junction sleeve center mount
52 219373 $19.0 air box bare (silencer)
Tomos 85-91 A3  (pre-85 was Encarwi Ø9 intake)
53 214330 $12.0 intake tube Ø12.5 x 60 straight
60 025195 $1.00 intake screw M6x30 hex
61 026289 $1.00 intake screw M6x18 hex
62 031932 $0.20 washer M6
63 219371 $53.0 center intake A3
63 219564 $53.0 center intake A3 (oil inject)
64 219372 $5.00 intake gasket thin
Tomos 92-95 A35
53 223606 $9.00 inlet tube Ø12.5×110 curved
65 026566 $1.50 intake screw M5x20 allen
66 031931 $0.20 washer 5mm
67 227592 N/A     center intake A35 (oil inject)
Tomos 96-06 A35
55 229705 $14.0 junction sleeve side mount
56 229706 $2.50 inlet grommet
57 229769 $35.0 air box assy 57, 58, 59
58 044438 $1.00 air box screw
59 229704 $7.00 air filter foam
68 223748 $3.00 reed valve gasket
69 222238 $34.0 reed valve 2-petal
70 229707 N/A     side intake (no oil inject.)
71 229716 $21.0 side intake (oil injection)

An oil-injection intake has a M6-threaded hole for the oil line. A no-oil injection intake does not.
Plug the hole with a M6x8 bolt and M6 seal washer, to convert oil-injection to no oil injection. 

 

 

 

 

Encarwi Parts

October 25, 2014

encarwi

Contents:
1. A-type on Tomos
2. S-type on Batavus, others
3. H-type on Trac, others

 

 

 

Part# colors:  Tomos, Laura, Batavus, Trac, other

1. Encarwi A-type: A11, A21, A22
    A83, 88A85/102, 88A85/103

 

– On some early-70’s Laura M48 engines.
– and ’74-85 Tomos A3 mopeds.
– Serviceable from sides.
– No choke cable. Choke is part of throttle.

  #   part#    price    Encarwi A-type on Laura M48 .
00 481780 none  carburetor A11  ∅8? 1970?-
00 slide ∅14? 408, jet M3.5 52-54 M48-01 40kmh
00 481788 none  carburetor A21  ∅12 1972?-
00 slide ∅14 202, jet M3.5 56-58 M48-02 50kmh
00 481789 none  carburetor A22  ∅8? 1972?-
00 slide ∅14? 108, jet M3.5 50-52 M48-03 30kmh
  #   part#    price    Encarwi A-type on Tomos A3 .
00 209070 none  carburetor A83  ∅12 1974-76
00 slide ∅14 426, jet M3.5×15 46 Tomos A3 20,25,30
00 209070 none  carburetor A83  ∅12 1977-83
00 slide ∅14 426, jet M3.5 x 6 46 Tomos A3 20,25,30
00 209070 none  carb 88A85/102 ∅12 1980-84
00 slide ∅14 426, jet M3.5 x 6 46 Tomos A3 20,25,30
00 209616 none  carb 88A85/103 ∅12 1984-85
00 slide ∅14 426, jet M4.0 x 7 50 Tomos A3 20,25,30
01 long jets, thread 3.5, head 12, length 15:
01 481723 $12.0 orig. long jet =Bing45 0.434 mm
01 481724 $15.0 orig. long jet =Bing46 0.445 mm
02 481731 $20.0 long holder for long Encarwi 3.5 jet
03 short jets, thread 3.5, head 3, length 6:
03 209116 $18.0 orig short jet =Bing46 0.445
04 206765 $41.0 long holder for short Bing jet
06 209118 $18.0 slide Ø14 426 with hole, auto-choke
07 209003 $5.00 spring Ø9.5 x 42
08 206763 $34.0 carb top screw-on    M18x1 thread
11 206770 35–20 float with needle 70’s type white
11 206770 $28.0 float with needle 80’s type black
11 206770 $10.0 float with needle aftermarket black
12 206772 $25.0 float top with seat     new
13 206771 $6.00 gasket for float top    
14 206773 $15.0 banjo black plastic    breaks easy
14 mbanjo $12.0 banjo metal upgrade w/2 washers 
16 206775 $7.00 banjo bolt
17 206774 $15.0 fuel filter all metal    clean & reuse
18 027053 $1.30 screw M4 x 10 slot
20 027079 $5.00 clamp bolt                  
24 200384 $22.0 air filter metal mesh
25 209215 $20.0 air box (silencer)        
26 209216 $27.0 junction sleeve rubber, gets hard
27 209217 $3.00 inlet tube connector
28 209579 $3.00 inlet tube (not shown)  
30 200382  intake gasket thick      
32 217315 none  intake manifold oil inj w/M6x1 hole
33 209085 $22.0 intake manifold           OD 16, ID 12
34 031932 $0.25 lock washer M6       
35 044284 $1.40 hex bolt M6 x 22

 

Encarwi Tomos Carbs

Left, 1974-83 Tomos carb, Encarwi A83, bare.
The jet and jet holder unscrew from the side hole.
The jet can be cleaned out easy, on the roadside.
Right, 84-86 Tomos, Encarwi 88A85/103, complete.
The side hole is blocked. Jet access is from bottom.
The engine must be lowered to access the jet.
Jetting/servicing is ten times more difficult. 

 

Here is a 88A85/103 with the non-removable jet-holder-spray-tube removed. The #50 jet is a 4mm thread, not 3.5 like all the other Encarwi jets. This one was not a tight fit and needed epoxy to hold it. When the jet was unscrewed the whole brass tube turned.

 

 

2. Encarwi S-type
    S8A, S22, S23, S23A, S23B, 88S23/103,
    S25, 88S25/101, S33, S33A

 

– On some early-70’s Laura M48 engines
– and 1974-80 Batavus, 1977-78 Badger.
– Located behind and below engine.
– Needs longer throttle and choke cables.

 

  #    part#   price    Encarwi S-type on Laura M48
00 487180  none  carburetor S22  ∅12  30mph ’72-77
00 slide ∅14 405, jet M3.5×15 54-58, inlet ∅16 45-50kmh 
00 541780  none  carburetor S25  ∅12  30mph ’77-78
00 slide ∅14 167, jet M3.5 x 6 56-58, inlet ∅16 45-50kmh 
00 541780  none  carb 88S25/101 ∅12 30mph ’78-80
00 slide ∅14 188, jet M3.5 x 6 56-56, air inlet ∅16 50kmh
00 481790  none  carburetor S8A    ∅8  25mph ’72-80
00 slide ∅14 190, jet M3.5×15 52-54, air inlet ∅14 40kmh
00 486795  none  carburetor S23A  ∅8  20mph ’75-80
00 slide ∅14 190, jet M3.5 x 6 50-52, air inlet ∅14 30kmh
00 481795  none  carburetor S23B  ∅8  00mph ’75-on
00 slide ∅14 190, jet M3.5 x 6 52-54, air inlet ∅14 25kmh
00 481795  none  carburetor S23    ∅8  00mph ’72-75?
00 slide ∅14 190, jet M3.5×15 50-52, air inlet ∅14 30kmh
00 486785  none  carb 88S23/103   ∅8  00mph ’77-on
00 slide ∅14 190, jet with holder 54, air inlet ∅14 20kmh
  #    part#   price    Encarwi S-type on Flandria
00 000000  none  carburetor S33  ∅12  00mph ’72-77
00 slide ∅14 000, jet M3.5×15 52-54, inlet ∅00 40kmh
00 000000  none  carburetor S33A  ∅12  25/30 ’76-77
00 slide ∅14 000, jet M3.5 x 6 52-54, inlet ∅00 40kmh 
01 long jets, thread 3.5, head 12, length 15:
01 481723 $12.0 orig. long jet =Bing45 0.434 mm
01 481724 $15.0 orig. long jet =Bing46 0.445 mm
01 481726 none  orig. long jet =Bing50 0.478 mm
01 481727 none  orig. long jet =Bing52 0.493 25mph
01 481729 none  orig. long jet =Bing56 0.523 30mph
01 481730 $7.00 orig. long jet =Bing58 0.541 mm 
02 481731 $20.0 long holder for long Encarwi jet
03 short jets, thread 3.5, head 3, length 6:
03 486750   none orig. short jet =Bing50 0.478 20mph
03 bing51g $4.00 generic48 jet ≈Bing51 0.480 mm
03 bing52g   none generic49 jet ≈Bing52 0.490 mm
03 486752 $5.00 orig. short jet =Bing52 0.493 25mph
03 bing53g $4.00 generic50 jet ≈Bing53 0.500 mm
03 486754 $5.00 orig. short jet =Bing54 0.508
03 bing56g $4.00 generic52 jet ≈Bing56 0.520 mm
03 486756 $11.0 orig. short jet =Bing56 0.523 30mph
04 481722 $41.0 long holder for short Bing jet
06 481758 none  throttle slide #405  S22 30mph
06 561742 $35.0 throttle slide #167  S25 30mph
06 5617xx  none  throttle slide #188  88S25/101 
06 486723 none  throttle slide #190  25 & 20mph
07 481722 $5.00 spring Ø9.5 x 42
08 481721 $34.0 carb top screw-on    M18x1 thread
09 481746 $7.00 idle screw M4-0.7    can use M4
10 481747 $3.00 idle screw spring Ø4.6 Ø6.6 x 9 
11 481736 35–20 float with needle 70’s type white
11 481736 $28.0 float with needle 80’s type black
11 481736 $10.0 float with needle aftermarket black
12 481738 $25.0 float top with seat      
13 481737 $6.00 gasket for float top    
14 481740 $15.0 banjo black plastic     
14 mbanjo $12.0 banjo metal upgrade w/2 washers 
16 481742 $7.00 banjo bolt
17 481741 $15.0 fuel filter
18 481739 $1.30 screw M4 x 10 slot  
20 481724 $5.00 clamp bolt
21 481743  $7.00 choke plate
22 481745 $3.00 bolt choke pivot          
23 481744 $3.00 spring choke               
24 481732 $22.0 air filter metal mesh
25 481713 none  air box (13.5id, 16od)  N/A 30mph
25 481734 none  air box (11.5id, 14od) N/A 25/20mph
26 481733 none  rubber band              N/A
27 481735 $8.00 wire clip                     
28 481793 none  intake tube 16 id    N/A  30mph
28 486781 $5.00 intake tube 14 id      25 & 20mph

 

Left 1970’s original float, right 90’s replacement

 

 

 

3. Encarwi H-type: H12, H8 

 

– Made special for Laura M56 engine.
– Serviceable without removal.
– Used on 1978-80 Batavus Regency (M56)
– 1981-85 Trac Clipper, Eagle, Hawk (M56)

 # qty  part#  price    Encarwi H-type 1978-85
116 1 561782 $220. carburetor H12 ∅12 30, 25mph
116 1 561782 $000.  slide ∅14, jet M3.5 56 .
116 1 561787  N/A    carburetor H8    ∅8  20mph
116 1 561787 $000.  slide ∅12?, jet M3.5 46 .
118 1 481736 $35.0 =206770 float with needle, good-used
119 1 481737 $6.00 =206771 gasket for float top
120 1 561741 $35.0 float top and seat no vent use 206772
120 1 206772 $25.0 float top and seat vented
121 3 481739  =027053 screw M4 x 15 slot
122 1 mbanjo $12.0 banjo metal with 2 washers
122 2 swash8 $1.00 banjo seal washer 8mm
123 1 481741 $15.0 =206774 fuel filter
124 1 481742 $7.00 =206775 banjo bolt
125 1 561740 $5.00 idle screw M5-0.80 x 16
126 1 481747 $2.00 spring idle screw Ø5,Ø7 x 10
127 1 082510 $40.0 short holder for short Bing jet 
127 1 491722 $30.0 short holder for medium Encarwi jet 
128 short jets, thread 3.5, head 3, length 6:
128 1 486746 $18.0 orig. short jet #46 =0.445 mm
128 1 486756 $11.0 orig. short jet #56 =0.523 mm
128 1 486756 $4.00 generic subst #52 =0.520 mm
128 1 486756 none  generic subst #53 =0.530 mm
128 medium jets, thread 3.5, head 8, length 11:
128 1 566756 $12.0 orig medium jet 56 =0.523 mm
128 1 566746  N/A    orig medium jet 46 =0.445 mm
129 1 561748 $25.0 slide throttle Ø14 (H12) #3
129 1 561742  N/A    slide throttle Ø12? (H8)
130 1 046430 $7.00 rubber cover over carb top
131 1 561721 $25.0 carb top white plastic
132 2 561745 $2.00 o-ring for choke 1 x 4.0
133 1 561743  N/A    choke slide
134 1 561743  N/A    choke slide set screw M4
135 1 481759 $10.0 spring throttle Ø9.5 x 44
136 1 491724 $8.00 spring choke return
137 1 561747  choke cable wire only
138 1 561713 $5.00 air filter foam strip
139 2 561714  N/A    air filter screen
140 1 491797 $6.00 reed valve gasket round
141 1 491796 $23.0 insulator block 
143 1 823514 $0.70 screw M5 x 30 phillips
144 1 561795  N/A    air box with filter good used
145 1 561747 $52.0 choke cable assy 132,133,134,136,137

 

Encarwi H12 carb on Trac M56 engine

Encarwi H12, with no top, on Trac M56 engine

 

Encarwi Jets: Most Encarwi carburetors use standard Bing 3.5mm jets. Those jets have a “short” head that is only 3mm long. To use a short jet, the jet holder must be for a short jet. But some Encarwi carburetors have longer 3.5mm jets with 8mm “medium” or 12mm “long” heads.

Encarwi jet holders
1  481722 long jet holder for short (Bing) jet 
2  481731 long jet holder for long Encarwi jet  can be a substitute for 3
3  491722 short jet holder for medium Encarwi jet 
4  082510 short jet holder for short (Bing) jet

 

 

 

New Tomos Transmission Service

August 10, 2014

Basic A35/A55 Transmission Service

Replacing the first speed clutch segments:

1. Once the transmission oil is drained out, and the trans cover removed, the clutch and trans are exposed.

2. The 17mm clutch nut is spun off with an impact wrench. The outer first speed clutch just pulls straight out.

3. The circular coil spring is removed. The old clutch segments are removed, preserving the orientation.

4. The new clutch segments are transferred over one at a time so as to not scramble the direction.

5. The three leaf springs are put back, with tails inside, not outside the neighbor spring’s cradle.

6. The circular coil spring is carefully stretched and maneuvered into position. See photos below.

Step 6a. Getting everything ready for the spring pre-loading (stretching).

At the gaps between the segments, the leaf springs have “cradles”. These cradles prevent the spring from wandering either way and coming off. When installing, always put the c-clamps or vise grips where you can almost get two of the three cradles. Never clamp onto the spring or the brake lining. Left, initially set the clamps like this. There’s no tension in the spring yet.

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Step 6b. Gently stretch with soft thumbs then clamp it

Now with both your thumbs, gently stretch and lift the spring onto the ledge, but not yet over the cradle. You cannot let go or it will come off and maybe fly away. Hopefully you have a third needle nose vise grips within arms reach that is already adjusted and ready to clamp. Without letting the spring snap back and without taking too much time, clamp the third vise grips (a needle nose vice grips like shown here is best) to prevent the spring from flying off.

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Step 6c. Gently pry the spring over the cradle with a small screwdriver

Just like putting a tire onto a rim, that last little bit is the most difficult. It’s very easy to damage the spring by forcing it to go when it doesn’t want to. If it gets tight, release and try to take a smaller bite. If the new spring is over stretched by rough handling during installation, it will be like having an old softer one.

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7. Once it snaps over the cradle you got it. Now just push on it to snap it in it’s groove all around.

8. Place the assembled 1st speed clutch back on, tighten the nut with the impact.

9. Put the two rear shaft’s shim washers 10 & 16mm in place, clean the gasket surfaces and any sludge.

9a. For Pedal Models:  Take the left pedal crank off, or at least park the pedal in the down position. The weight of that far side pedal makes the pedal shaft point wrong, causing the transmission cover to not go on right.

9b. For Pedal Models: Make sure the U-shaped clip is in it’s slot in the case wall. The starter (pedal) shaft should move 45 degrees back and forth. If only the clutches were removed, and not the countershaft and pedal shaft assemblies, then it will still be in it’s slot, ready for the trans cover to go back on. More pictures of this will be put here soon …

10. Put the trans cover on. When everything is aligned, it makes a loud clap.

11. Then tighten the trans cover bolts. Put new ATF fluid and go try it out!

Indian Models

August 3, 2014

updated 2020-04

 

 

 

 

 

 

All Indian mopeds have the same model name, “AMI-50 Chief”, or just “AMI-50”. The service manual cover mentions a “AMI-50 2S”. This was the 2-speed that never materialized.

The 1978-81 Indian AMI50 engine is a remake of a 1975-77 Honda PC50K1 or 1975-78 Honda PF50R engine. The main difference is the Indian left case has Bosch-compatible stator plate mounts, while Honda has no stator plate. Other than the magneto-generator, and the Mikuni version head and intake, everything else is interchangeable.

Indian models are like a fast food restaurant menu, many variations from just a few ingredients.

 
The 1978 Indian Parts Manual lists the following frame colors: black, silver, burgundy, blue.
The first 1978-79 Indians had a Tillotson “pumper” type carburetor. That had problems.
Later 1979 Indians had a Keihin carburetor, with lever choke, same kind as Honda PC50.
The only 1978 decals listed are the left and right Indian heads on the tank.
The only 1978 wheels are the spoke wheels with 90mm brake drums.
 
The 1979 Indian Parts Manual lists the following frame colors: black, silver, burgundy, blue, green, white.
The 1979-later Indians had a wider rear luggage rack.
Some 1979, and all 1980-later had a Mikuni 10mm carb, with cable choke.
Early Mikuni versions had the same black-painted cylinder head with the same flange angle.
Later Mikuni versions a different silver-painted head with a flange angle more side-facing.
Those late-Mikuni silver heads came with valve stem seals, unlike the older black heads.
The 1979-later Sport Mag II aluminum wheels have the same 90mm brakes as the spoke wheels.
The 1979-later Mira Enterprises aluminum wheels have 100mm brakes, different than the others.
 
“Script” version had gold script Indian decals on the tank, and gold script Indian on the engine covers (sides).
“Stripe” version had either “warm” or “cool” color stripes, and “FOUR STROKE” in yellow slanted on the sides.
 
The 1980 Indian Parts Manual lists the following frame colors: black, silver, burgundy, blue, green, white.
Some 1979, and all 1980-later had the improved two-coil WTEMCO magneto. See Wiring Diagrams for that.
 

1978-79 Indian AMI-50 Chief  (head logo, spoke wheels) 

1978 Indian AMI50 white with spoke wheels Indian head logo on tank no other stickers

1978 Indian AMI-50
white with spoke wheels
Indian head on tank
old “four stroke” on sides

1978 Indian AMI50 black with spoke wheels They rust easily.

1978 Indian AMI-50
black with spoke wheels
Indian head on tank
  rusted bad, too bad!

1978 Indian AMI50 silver with spoke wheels Indian head logo on tank

1979 Indian AMI-50
silver with spoke wheels
Indian head on tank

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1979-80 Indian AMI-50 Chief (gold script, spoke wheels)

1979 Indian AMI50 burgundy w/spoke wheels Indian gold script on tank

1979 Indian AMI-50
burgundy with spoke wheels
gold script on tank and sides

1979 Indian AMI50 burgundy w/spoke whls

1979 Indian AMI-50
burgundy w/spoke whls
gold script on tank+sides

1980 Indian AMI-50 black with spoke wheels gold script on tank + sides

1980 Indian AMI-50
black with spoke wheels
gold script on tank+sides

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1979-80 Indian AMI-50 Chief (color stripes, spoke wheels)

late 1978 Indian AMI50 green with spoke wheels color stripes removed

1979 Indian AMI-50
green with spoke wheels
color stripes removed

1979 Indian AMI50 burgundy w/spoke wheels warm color stripes

1979 Indian AMI-50
burgundy w/spoke whls
with warm color stripes even on engine covers

1979 Indian AMI50 white with spoke wheels with cool color stripes gold script on sides

1979 Indian AMI-50
white with spoke wheels
with cool color stripes
gold script eng covers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1979-80 Indian AMI-50 Chief (gold script, Sport Mag II “8 ray” wheels)

1979 Indian AMI-50 black Sport Mag II whls gold script tank + sides

1979 Indian AMI-50
black Sport Mag II whls
gold script tank + sides

1980 Indian AMI-50 black Sport Mag II whls gold script on tank gold script on sides

1980 Indian AMI-50
black Sport Mag II whls
gold script tank + sides

Some Indians had Sport Mag II cast aluminum wheels, made in Placentia CA USA, near Myrons Mopeds. These were pretty much the only aluminum “mag” type wheel on any Indian mopeds originally sold is Southern California. For the rest of the country, the Mira Enterprises (Taiwan-made) aluminum wheels, that look like snowflakes, are the most common type of Indian moped “mag” wheel. This is easy to see in a Google image search for “indian moped”. Maybe, this was because American Moped Associates, in Irvine CA, had to unpack the bikes and swap the wheels with the local-made aluminum ones (that need all the brake and axle parts transferred from the old spoke wheels). So they only sold units with Sport Mag II wheels to local deliveries, while for far away deliveries they would sell the units with Mira snowflake wheels. That way the packaging crate was undisturbed from Taiwan, and able to withstand another long distance shipment. What you see on opposite coasts of the USA is sometimes different, like these wheel styles.

Die cast aluminum wheels for Indian mopeds made by Sport Mag II, Inc. Placentia, California

Cast aluminum wheels
for Indian mopeds

Sport Mag II wheels for Indian mopeds right side view

Sport Mag II wheels
for Indian mopeds
right side, silver or black

Sport Mag II wheels for Indian mopeds left side view

Sport Mag II wheels
for Indian mopeds
left side, silver or black

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sport Mag also made dual chain Puch and Peugeot 17″ wheels, and others. See Wheels.

 

1979-80 Indian AMI-50 Chief (color stripes, Sport Mag II “8 ray” wheels)

1979 Indian AMI-50 black Sport Mag II whls with warm color stripes

1979 AMI-50, black
black Sport Mag II wheels, warm stripes

1979 Indian AMI50 silver Sport Mag II whls with cool color stripes (from 1981 accessories catalog cover)

1979 Indian AMI-50
silver S. Mag II wheels
“cool” stripes, from
’81 access. catalog

1979 Indian AMI50 burgundy w/warm stripes silver Sport Mag II whls

1979 Indian AMI50
burgundy, warm stripes
silver Sport Mag II whls

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

American Moped Associates was already proud that the Indian was American-designed. With it’s long bench seat, extra large 1.6 gallon gas tank, heavy weight carrying capacity, motorcycle type forks, and plenty of chrome it was an American moped. It was a pretty good frame with a classic moped design, functional and fun to look at. Now, with the USA-made Sport Mag II wheels, the product was almost living up to the company name, American Moped.

 

1979-81 Indian AMI-50 Chief  (color stripes, Mira “snowflake” wheels)

Indian AMI50 2014-08-25 003

1980 Indian AMI-50
black with warm stripes
Mira aluminum wheels

Indian AMI50 2014-08-25 002

1980 Indian AMI-50
black with warm stripes
Mira aluminum wheels

Indian vin plate

1980 Indian, made
by Mira Enterprises

Somehow the maker of the Indian moped changed from Merida Industry Company Ltd, in 1978-79, to Mira Enterprises Ltd, in 1980-81. But nothing physically changed on the bike except the ID plate. More about this will follow…

 

 

 

1980 Indian AMI-50 white with Mira wheels warm color stripes

1980 Indian AMI-50
white with warm stripes
silver Mira “snowflakes”

1980 Indian AMI-50 black with cool stripes silver Mira snowflake whls

1980 Indian AMI-50
black with cool stripes
silver Mira snowflake whls

1979 Indian AMI50 black with warm stripes silver Mira "snowflakes"

1979 Indian AMI50
black with warm stripes
silver Mira “snowflakes”
optional front foot rest

1981 Indian AMI50 white with cool stripes Mira aluminum wheels

1981 Indian AMI50
white with cool stripes
Mira aluminum wheels

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1980-81 Indian AMI-50 Chief  (gold script, Mira “snowflake” wheels)

1981 Indian AMI50 white with gold script silver Mira "snowflakes"

1981 Indian AMI50
white with gold script
silver Mira “snowflakes”

1981 Indian AMI50 black with gold script Mira snowflake wheels

1981 Indian AMI50
black with gold script
Mira snowflake wheels

1980 Indian AMI50 burgundy w/gold script Mira snowflake wheels

1980 Indian AMI50
burgundy w/gold script Mira snowflake wheels

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1981 Indian AMI-50 Chief  (head logo, Mira “snowflake” wheels)

1981 Indian AMI50 white with head logo Mira snowflake wheels

1981 Indian AMI50
white with head logo
Mira snowflake wheels

1981 Indian AMI50 black with head logo Mira snowflake wheels

1981 Indian AMI50
black with head logo
Mira snowflake wheels

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honda Benelux

July 28, 2014
Honda Belgium assembly room in the late 1960's

Honda Belgium assembly room in the 1960’s

Honda vintageHonda expanded it’s production into Belgium in the mid 1960’s, after the successful Honda 50 Cub sold well worldwide. Honda Belgium produced the P50 pedal moped from 1966 to 68, and then the PC50 moped from 1969 to 77. See the Wikipedia Honda P50, and Wikipedia Honda PC50 articles. Around 1975, when parts were also produced in Netherlands and Luxemburg, the name changed from Honda Belgium to Honda Benelux (for Belgium, Netherlands, Luxemburg). The successor to the PC50 four-stroke one-speed moped (later copied by Taiwan and called Indian) was the PA50 two-stroke variable speed moped, with way more take off and hill climbing power. The PA50 was produced from 1976 to 91. See below. Here is a brochure from 1965 showing the Honda Belgium product line:1965 Honda Belgium brochure

1977 Honda Hobbit Magazine AdThe Honda PA50 Hobbit/Camino

The Honda PA50 pedal moped was produced at Honda Benelux from 1976 to 1991. The PA50 was called Camino in Europe, and Hobbit in the US. The PA50 Hobbit was sold in the US from 1978 to 1983. See the Wikipedia Honda PA50 article for more. Honda PA50 parts were originally only sold at Honda motorcycle dealerships, never at independent moped shops. Some components are interchangeable, or available for, or from, other European moped brands.

 

 

 

 

USA Models of Honda PA50

Honda PA50 info from American Honda Model Identification Catalog

1978 Honda PA50I 20mph

1978 PA50-I 20mph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'78 Honda PA50II 30mph

1978 PA50-II 30mph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1979 PA50I 20mph

1979 Honda PA50-I 20mph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1979 PA50II 30mph

1979-80 Honda PA50-II 30mph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1981 PA50II 30mph

1981 Honda PA50-II 30mph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1982 Honda PA50II

1982 Honda PA50-II 30mph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1983 Honda PA50II

1983 Honda PA50-II 30mph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honda PA50 Owners Manual cover

1983 Honda PA50 Owners Manual cover

1983 Honda PA50 Owners Manual table of contents

1983 Honda PA50 Owners Manual – Table of Contents

 

1983 Honda PA50 Owners Manual pages 1, 2, 3, 4

Honda PA50 Owners Manual pages 1, 2, 3, 4

1983 Honda PA50 Owners Manual pages 5, 6, 7, 8

Honda PA50 Owners Manual pages 5, 6, 7, 8

1983 Honda PA50 Owners Manual pages 9,10,11,12

Honda PA50 Owners Manual  9,10,11,12

1983 Honda PA50 Owners Manual pages 13,14,15,16

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 13,14,15,16

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1983 Honda PA50 Owners Manual pages 17,18,19,20

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 17,18,19,20

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 21,22,23,24

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 21,22,23,24

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 25,26,27,28

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 25,26,27,28

1983 Honda PA50 Owners Manual pages 29,30,31,32

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 29,30,31,32

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 33,34,35,36

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 33,34,35,36

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 37,38,39,40

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 37,38,39,40

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 41,42,43,44

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 41,42,43,44

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 45,46,47,48

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 45,46,47,48

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 49,50,51,52

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 49,50,51,52

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 53,54,55

Honda PA50 Owners Manual 53,54,55

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Speed Version Differences

Honda PA50 speed versions

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lazer 4-Stroke

July 28, 2014

The name Lazer was originally used for a 1977-78 moped, made in Taiwan by Jui Li, imported by North American Roosevelt Industries, with a Minarelli two-stroke engine. See Lazer (Taiwan) .

In the mid-2000’s the Lazer name was re-used for a 2007-later moped, made in China by Bashan, imported by SSR Motorsports in Norwalk CA, with a 4-stroke Chinese engine. SSR sells many off-road bikes, quads, and on-road scooters and mopeds. They have dealers across the US that sell their products, and parts. See SSR Motorsports.

 

SSR Lazer 5 red

SSR Lazer 5 red

 

SSR Lazer 5 black

SSR Lazer 5 black

 

 

 

 

 

 

SSR Lazer 5 silver

SSR Lazer 5 silver

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Laura Engines

July 27, 2014

Laura header

M48 Engine

M48 Engine

 

Welcome. Laura engines are made in Holland (now The Netherlands).

 

 

M48  The Laura M48 is used on 1976-80 Batavus and ROG mopeds in the US. In Europe and Canada the M48 is also on Solo, and early 1971-73 Tomos, and others.

M56 engine

M56 engine

M54  In Europe and Canada, the 1973-77 Laura M54 is on Solex Tenor and others. The Laura M54 is basically an M56 top end (piston, cylinder, and head) on an M48 bottom end.

M56  The Laura M56 is used on 1978-80 Batavus mopeds in the US, and others in Europe. After 1980 it was re-made in Korea by Daelim Motor Corp. for the brand known as Trac (made by Kia) in the US. The M56 remake was on 1982-86 Trac Clipper, Eagle, and Hawk models. The M56 remake engine is 99% the same.

Contents:

1. 1972-75 Laura M48 Parts List for Info 

2. 1972 Laura M48 Service Manual  

 

 

1. 1972 Laura M48 Parts List – For Information Only

This Laura M48 parts list is for European models. It was originally in four languages, Dutch, French, German, and English. This version is English only. It is interesting to see the differences in the speed versions. The Dutch artwork is high quality, like their machinery. This material was made available from Mr. B. Small, in Maryland USA, for you to enjoy and use!

 

1972 Anker Laura M48 parts list header 1972 Anker Laura M48 parts list p2 1972 Anker Laura M48 parts list all 1972 Anker Laura M48 carburetor1972 Anker Laura M48 magneto 1972 Anker Laura M48 parts list carb and magneto 1972 Anker Laura M48 tools

 

 

2. 1972 Laura M48 Engine Service Manual

M48 Service Manual p1

M48 Service p1

M48 Service p2

M48 Service p2

M48 Service p3

M48 Service p3

M48 Service p4

M48 Service p4

M48 Service p5

M48 Service p5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

M48 Service p6

M48 Service p6

M48 Service p7

M48 Service p7

M48 Service p8

M48 Service p8

M48 Service p9

M48 Service p9

M48 Service p10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

M48 Service p11

M48 Service p11

M48 Service p12

M48 Service p12

M48 Service p13

M48 Service p13

M48 Service p14

M48 Service p14

M48 Service p15

M48 Service p15

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Laura M48 Service Manual p16

This beautiful technical illustration, in the tradition of the Dutch masters, is by Stijn Hoogenbos.

 

 

 

CEV Magnetos and Parts

July 16, 2014

CEV  Contents:

A. Parts Listed by Type

B. Parts Listed by Magneto

CEV#  years  pla    rotor stator
CEV#  years   plate   id x od  slots  points

1. 60’s-70’s  7432⇒ 80 x 94  3+2 13035⇒ 
6034 ⇒  early 60’s Guzzi 125cc
6054 ⇒  early 70’s Garelli Brianza
6098 ⇒    late 60’s unknown
6834 ⇒  early 70’s Garelli 354 (US)
6852 ⇒  early 70’s Bianchi Avanti (US)
6861 ⇒  early 70’s Minarelli V1 (US)
6869 ⇒  late 60’s Garelli Record (UK)
6876 ⇒    xxx 70’s Minarelli V1 (US)

2. 60’s-70’s  ⇐9611 80 x 94  3+2 ⇐13036 
6067 ⇐  early 60’s Minarelli P3 
6068 ⇐    xxx 60’s Minarelli P4

3. 60’s-70’s  7989⇒ 80 x 90   3  04266⇒
6826 ⇒    xxx 60’s Gilera 106, 107 (US)
6878 ⇒    xxx 63 Moto Guzzi Stornello 125

4. 60’s-70’s⇐12950 80 x 80   2  ⇐02355
6859 ⇐  early 70’s Morini MO1 (US)

5. 70’s-80’s 13373  80 x 94  3+2 04221⇒ 
6917 ⇒    late 70’s Moto Guzzi Dingo (UK)
6923 ⇒    xxx 70’s Minarelli V1
6939 ⇒    late 70’s Garelli Gulp (US)
6940 ⇒    xxx 70’s Minarelli V1 (US)

6. 70’s-80’s 13373  80 x 94  3+2 ⇐04229 
6919 ⇐    xxx 70’s Garelli
6938 ⇐    xxx 70’s Demm
6948 ⇐    xxx 70’s Minarelli P4
6952 ⇐    late 70’s Rizzato (US)

7. 70’s-80’s 13471  80 x 80    2    04221⇒
6931 ⇒   70’s-80’s Minarelli V1
6932 ⇒   70’s-80’s Minarelli V1 (US)

8. 70’s-80’s 13471  80 x 80   2    ⇐04229
6420 ⇐    late 80’s Morini M1 (US)
6933 ⇐    late 70’s Garelli, Demm (US)
6949 ⇐    late 70’s Sachs 504 (US)
6959 ⇐    70’s-80’s Garelli (IT)

T1. Tomos  13085  94 x 90  3+1 ⇐04229
6943 ⇐    1988-91 Tomos A3 (US) 12V 50w
6951 ⇐    1985-86 Tomos A3 (US) 6V 28/10w

T2. Tomos  13923  80 x 90  3+1 ⇐04229
6418 ⇐    1986-88 Tomos A3 (US) 12V 28w
6436 ⇐    1986-88 Tomos A3 (US) 12V 75w

 

 

 

 

A. Parts Listed by Type

 

 

C.E.V. electrical components are made in Italy since the 1920’s by Fratelli Pagani (Pagani Brothers). CEV lights, switches, speedometers, and magnetos are used on most 1970’s and 80’s European mopeds. C.E.V. is a trade mark that stands for Costruzioni Elettromeccaniche Venegonesi. English translation: Venegonese Electromechanical Constructions. Venegono Inferiore and Venegono Superiore are small municipalities within the Province of Varese in northern Italy. In the 2000’s CEV became part of ZADI.

CEV magnetos here are grouped in families. Magnetos in a family have the same rotation (anti-clockwise ⇐ or ⇒ clockwise), stator base plate, points and condenser, but different flywheels (for different engines) and different coils (for different lighting equipment).

CEV magneto number on the flywheel identifies both the flywheel and the stator.

Prices: bright green is new, dark green is good-used 

 

CEV Points

#  ICET#   50’s # 60’s # price   SGR#    2-Piece Points
#  ICET#  CEV#  CEV# price   CEV magneto  bike model

>    0000   4184 00000 none   Bosch type
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Sachs Motor ’50-53
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Bianchi Sparviero, JLO 100, 125
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Legnano with Sachs 47 ’55

>    0000   4132 00000 none   Nassetti autorotor type
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Beta 125, Capriolo 75
>    0000   0000 00000 none   FBM 125, Gitane 125
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Guazzioni 48, Gabbiano 125, 150
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Mival 125 series 1
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Ardito 75 series 2

<    3155   4264 00000 none   Demm 49, Devil Moto 48
<    0000   0000 00000 none   FB Mondial 48, Alpino 48
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Morini Corsaro 125
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Parilla Parillino 49
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Pirotta 48, Rizzato 48
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Scoccimarro MDS 48, 75
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Silverkar Go-Kart with MG8S

<    0000   4495 00000 none   = 4484
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Itom 1948 Series 1 and 2
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Lambretta 125, 150 1956-58
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Taurus 1948

>    3156   0000 00000 none  Bianchi Falco, Gardena
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Bianchi Turchino, Orsetto
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Cimatti 48cc ’61>
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Derbi 48cc ’61>
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Viverti VI 48cc ’59>

>    3157   4266 00000 none   01.3356 .
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6878 Guzzi Stornello ’61-69
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Guzzi Dingo
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Gilera 106
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6826 Sears Gilera 106 (US)
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Parilla 250

>    3165   4261 00000 none   Ducati 125 4T

>    0000   4184 00000 none   ?

>    0000   4132 00000 none   ?

>    0000   4263 00000 none   Minarelli 48
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Capri 70

 

 

#  ICET#   50’s # 60’s  price   SGR#  MMI#  pivot post
#  ICET#  CEV#  CEV# price   CEV magneto  bike model

1    3149   0000 02355 none   6850, 6851 Motom Daina ’67>
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6850, 6851 Motom Nova ’65>
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6850, 6851 Motom 117, Scrambler ’66>
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6859 Italjet Kit Kat (US) ’69-70 Morini MO
<    0000   0000 00000 none   can replace 3150
1.1 0000   4272 00000 none   6875, 6877 Minarelli industrial 

2    3153   4276 02252 none   Motom Motozappa 401 ’64> use 3151A
2.1 3146   4277 02265 none   Lambretta 200 SX ’68> use 3151A
>    0000   0000 00000 none   same as 3153 but no wire
2.2 3151A 4274 02227 none   Motom Daina ’67>, Guzzi Zigolo 110 ’65>
2.2 3151A 4275 02243 none   Motom Daina ’67>, Guzzi Zigolo 110 ’65>
>    0000   0000 00000 none   same as 3153 but longer wire
>    0000   0000 00000 none   can replace 3153 and 3146

3    3140   0000 00000 none   Demm 48, 125 ’67>
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Mival 48

4    3157P 4260 04154 none   Gilera 125, 150 ’74>
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Guzzi Stornello 125, 150 ’70>
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Guzzi Stornello 160 ’74>
4.1 3155A 4259 04171 none   Gilera 125, 150 ’74>
>    0000   0000 00000 none   same as 3157P except wire mount

5    3159   4268 01356 none  01.3036 M14a ∅4.5 x 7.5
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Agrati Capri 80, Como 50 ’61
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Benelli 48 ’61>
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Bianchi Orsetto ’61
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Minarelli ’61>
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Gilera G50 ’62
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6067 early 60’s Minarelli P3
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6068 early 60’s Minarelli P4
5.1 3150   4280 04073 none   Moto Morini ’69>
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Garelli 48, Guzzoni Go-Kart
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Mondial, Benelli

6    3158   0000 01355 $26.0 01.3035 M18a ∅4.5 x 7.5
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6822? Guzzi Dingo ’66>
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6822? Garelli Go-Kart ’61>
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6822? Agrati Capri 50 ’61
>    0000   0000 00000 none   for CEV 6822
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6034 early 60’s Guzzi 125
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6054 early 70’s Garelli Brianza
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6098 late 60’s unknown
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6869 60’s Garelli Record
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6861 early 70’s Minarelli V1
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6834 early 70’s Garelli 354 (US)
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6852 early 70’s Bianchi Avanti (US)
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6876 early 70’s Minarelli V1 (US)

7    3164   4258 04229 $16.0 01.3557 M14 ∅4.0 x 3.0
<    0000   0000 00000 none   =CEV 02229
<    0000   0000 00000 none   =Dansi 408811, 422862
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Benelli 49, 3VK, Sport
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Betamotor 50, Demm Rotary
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Garelli ’74>, Noi ’80
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6959 70’s-80’s Garelli (IT)
<    0000   0000 00000 none   F. Morini Convert
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Malaguti New Dribbling
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Malanca 50 4M, Leoncino
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Minarelli ’74>
<    0000   0000 00000 none   Rizzato Califfo 48, 122
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6919 70’s Garelli
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6938 70’s Demm
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6948 70’s Minarelli P4
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6952 late 70’s Rizzato (US)
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6420 late 80’s Morini M1 (US)
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6933 late 70’s Garelli, Demm (US)
<    0000   0000 00000 none   6949 late 70’s Sachs 504
7.1 3167   4256 04240 none   BM Motori ’74>, Jame Karts ’74>
<    0000   0000 00000 none   same as 3164 but way longer wire
7.2 3152A 4287 04029 none   Mosa Saldatrici ’70>
<    0000   0000 00000 none   same as 3164 but longer wire

8    3166   4257 04221 $16.0 01.3558 M18 ∅4.0 x 3.0
>    0000   0000 00000 none   =Dansi 408800, 5610
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Benelli Bobo, Caddy S 50
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Guzzi 50 Chiu
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Lambretta 50, 125, 150 <’69
>    0000   0000 00000 none   Lui 50 CL.75 <’69
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6923 Minarelli V1 ’74>
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6931 Minarelli V1 70’s-80’s
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6917 70’s Guzzi Dingo (UK)
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6939 70’s Garelli Gulp (US)
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6940 70’s Minarelli V1 (US)
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6932 70’s-80’s Minarelli V1 (US)
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6943 ’88-91 Tomos A3 (US)
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6951 ’85-86 Tomos A3 (US)
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6418 ’86-88 Tomos A3 (US)
>    0000   0000 00000 none   6436 ’86-88 Tomos A3 (US)

 

 

 

CEV condensers 1960’s-80’s have two versions.
13694 $15.0 condenser early M32a Ø18×25, no flange
07365 $13.0 condenser (most) M17 Ø18×25 with flange

CEV base plates 1960’s-80’s have seven versions.
# 00 CEV#  price  rot plate wheel coils slots 
2. 0  07432 none   ⇒  Ø94  Ø80  45 3+2 slots M5
3. 0  09611 none   ⇐  Ø94  Ø80  45 3+2 slots M5
4. 0  07989 none   ⇒  Ø90  Ø80  45 3 slots
5, 6. 13373 $40.0 ⇔  Ø94  Ø80  48 3+2 slots M4
7. 0  13085 $75.0 ⇔  Ø90  Ø94  57 3+1 slots
8. 0  13923 none  ⇔  Ø90  Ø80  48? 3+1 slots
9,10 13471 $58.0 ⇔  Ø80  Ø80  48 2 slots M4

 

CEV source coils 1960’s-80’s have two sizes (for 80 or 94 mm i.d. flywheel), three types (ignition, ignition-spark or lighting). Lighting coils have several versions. Many are the same except for the wire length or color.

04277 none  ignition coil 48 Ø80 internal ground
04287 72-57 ignition coil 48 Ø80 external ground: no wire   
04307 75-60 ignition coil 48 Ø80 external ground: blue wire
04354 75-60 ignition coil 48 Ø80 external ground: long blue
04359 none  ignition coil 57 Ø94 external ground: blue wire
04359 $65.0 substitute   57 Ø94 Ducati = Tomos 213733

04233 none  lighting coil 48 Ø80 6 volt 18 watt? black wire
04288 30-25 lighting coil 48 Ø80 6 volt 28 watt: no wire
04308 $30.0 lighting coil 48 Ø80 6 volt 28 watt: black wire  
04355 $30.0 lighting coil 48 Ø80 6 volt 28 watt: long black
04360 $40.0 lighting coil 57 Ø94 6 volt 28 watt: yellow wire
04360 35-20 substitute   57 Ø94 Ducati = Tomos 213734

CEV flywheels (rotors) generally do not interchange because they can have different timing angles. The timing angles are 1) the angle between key groove and the high side center of the points cam, and 2) the angle between the four magnets and the key groove. The second timing angle is determined by the first and the rotation. 

Flywheel keys: The woodruff key groove in the flywheel can have three different widths, 2.0, 2.5, or 3.0 mm. 

Keyless installation: Flywheels with the same size and rotation can interchange if the flywheel is installed without the woodruff key, at the correct angle. ’70’s French mopeds Peugeot and Motobecane do not have woodruff keys. The key is more for convenience in servicing, rather than for preventing slippage.   

Sources: Most bike makers parts catalogs do not disclose the component makers part numbers. So much of this information was gathered from actual parts samples that came from known bike models. CEV part numbers came from a 1985 Marina Mobili Inc (MMI) price list and from the CEV section in their catalog-notebook. They were the biggest USA importer and distributor of CEV and other moped parts, independent of the bike brands. 

 

 

 

 

B. Parts Listed by Magneto

 

 

 

1.

1960’s-70’s CEV ⇒ magnetos with
7432 base plate 80 x 94, 13035 points

CEV 6034 Moto Guzzi

1965 Guzzi Stornello 125 Sport

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 2 wires
black = lights 6V 25w? 
red = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal? spark coil
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a x
7   1 $15.0 13694 condenser M32a
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

CEV 6054 Garelli

1972 Garelli Brianza

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
orange = lights 6V 25w? 
black = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 

 

 

CEV 6098

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 2 wires
black = lights 6V 25w? 
red = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal spark coil
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 

CEV 6834 Garelli 354

1968-70 Broncco TC-4, TS-4

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 25w? 
red = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 

CEV 6852 Bianchi Avanti

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 25w? 
red = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 

CEV 6861 Minarelli V1

1970-74 Cimatti Chic (some), City Bike,
1970-72 Fantic Broncco TX-7,
1974 Carabela Moto Pony 60


CEV 6861 with internal spark coil


CEV 6861 with external spark coil

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 25w? 
red = ignition (points to coil)
light blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external or internal spark coil
3  1 $26.0 13035 points M18a
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

Superseded by 6940. For early to mid 1970’s Minarelli V1 with metal fan cover, 2 (not 3) cover base screws, 94mm 3-screw stator plate mounts. 

 

CEV 6869 Garelli 354

1968-69? Garelli Record, Junior


rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 23W (missing)
red = ignition (points to coil) (faded to grey)
blue = external ignition ground (disconnected)
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
3  1 $26.0 13035 points M18a
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 

CEV 6876 Minarelli V1

1975-76 Carabela, Cimatti, others


rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 23W
red = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1 none  F6876 flywheel (rotor) says 6876
1a 1 none  S6876 stator assembly
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
2a 1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
3   1 $26.0 13035 points M18a
4   1 none  00000 points adjustment cam
5   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer #8 x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 $2.00 12192 lubrication felt
12 1 none  13125 felt holder
13 1 none  07432 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots
14 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

For early to mid 1970’s Minarelli V1 with metal fan cover, 2 (not 3) cover base screws, 94mm 3-screw stator plate mounts. 

This aluminum flywheel has the same 80mm ID, but a bigger OD. It was superseded by 6940, with smaller OD. That is why there is room for a bigger flywheel on Minarelli V1 engine cases. A lot of older bikes had bigger flywheels.

 

2.

1960’s-70’s CEV ⇐ magnetos with
9611 base plate 80 x 94, 13036 points

CEV 6067 Minarelli P3

late 50’s-60’s Gabbiano

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 2 wires
black = lights 6V 25w? 
red = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal spark coil
3   1 none  13036 points M14a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  09611 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 

CEV 6068 Minarelli P4

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 2 wires
black = lights 6V 25w? 
red = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal spark coil
3   1 none  13036 points M14a x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  09611 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 

 

3.

1960’s-70’s CEV ⇒ magnetos with
7989 base plate 80 x 90, 04266 points

CEV 6826 Gilera 106, 107

1965-68 Sears Allstate (Gilera) 106 SS

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 90, 3 screw slots, 3 wires
red = lights 6V 25w? 
white = ignition (points to coil)
green = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
3   1 none  4266 points without pivot post x
7   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
13 1 none  07989 stator plate bare

 

CEV 6878 Moto Guzzi Stornello

1963 Moto Guzzi Stornello 125

 

 

 

 

4.

1960’s-70’s CEV ⇐ magnetos with
12950 base plate 80 x 80, 00000 points

CEV 6859 Morini MO (early MO1)

1967-75 Italjet Kit Kat, others
1969-73? Aprilia Dary folding moped


CEV 6859 on Morini MO Gyromat, 1969 Italjet Kit Kat (US)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.5 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 28/10w
red = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
4   1 none  02355 points
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 none  12950 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2 slots

 

5.

1970’s-80’s CEV ⇒ magnetos with
13373 base plate 80 x 94, 04221 points

CEV 6917 Moto Guzzi

late-70’s to 80’s Moto Guzzi Dingo (UK)

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 18w
red = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil 
1   1 none  F6917 flywheel (rotor) says 6917
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 none  04277 ignition coil copper wire
9   1 none  04233 lighting coil black wire
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots
11 1 none  S6917 stator assembly
12 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

 

CEV 6923 Minarelli V1

1970’s non-US-model mopeds 

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 18w (15w head + 3w tail)
red = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#  internal spark coil 
1   1 none  F6923 flywheel (rotor) says 6923
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots

 

CEV 6939 Garelli VIP

1975-86 Garelli Gulp, VIP (vertical cylinder)

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.5 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow = lights 6V 28/10w 
black = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1 $120  F6939 flywheel (rotor) says 6939
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 72-57 04287 ignition coil copper and blue wires
9   1 30-25 04288 lighting coil yellow wire
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots
11 1 $180  S6939 stator assembly
12 1 $290  06939 magneto assembly
13 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

These crack at the points cam when over tightened. The flywheel center is weak, because the center tapered hole is wide, and the key groove is located where the outer cam surface is low. There isn’t enough thickness there to handle a large tightening torque.

 

CEV 6940 Minarelli V1

1976-77 Carabela, Gitane, others

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 28/10w 
red = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1 $110  F6940 flywheel (rotor) says 6940
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 75-60 04307 ignition coil copper and blue wires
9   1 $30.0 04308 lighting coil black wire
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots
11 1 $180  S6940 stator assembly
12 1 $295  06940 magneto assembly
13 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

For early to mid 1970’s Minarelli V1 with metal fan cover, 2 (not 3) cover base screws, 94mm 3-screw stator plate mounts. 

 

6.

1970’s-80’s CEV ⇐ magnetos with
13373 base plate 80 x 94, 04229 points

CEV 6919 Garelli

1970’s non-US-model mopeds 

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 18w
red = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#  internal spark coil 
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare

 

CEV 6938

1970’s Demm 22 (Euro)

 

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.5 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 23w
red = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal or external spark coil
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare

 

CEV 6948 Minarelli P4/P6

mid-1970’s  from Minarelli P4/P6 parts catalog

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0? key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 28/10W
red = ignition (points to coil)
xxx # Minarelli# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
00082 82.0021.9 1 none  06948 magneto complete
00821 82.0008.6 1 $16.0 04229 points M14
00823 82.0131.6 1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
00825 82.0182.6 1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt subst.
00826 82.0221.6 1 none  F6948 flywheel (rotor) says 6948
00828 82.0429.6 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94
00000 82.0027.6 1 $180  S6948 stator assembly
00972 07.0205.9 1 none  04277? ignition coil copper wire
00974 07.0118.6 1 none  04233? lighting coil black wire
49106 49.0619.9 4 $0.20 00000 lock washer M4
49170 49.0675.6 1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
49204 49.0814.6 2 $2.50 13061 pts/cond screw M4x9 sm.
49206 49.0816.6 4 $0.80 00000 coils screw M4 x 20 phil.

 

CEV 6952 Rizzato

1975-77 Rizzato Califfo (1-speed vertical cylinder)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.5 key
stator plate o.d. 94, 3+2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 28/10W
red = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1 none  F6952 flywheel (rotor) says 6952
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 75-60 04307 ignition coil copper and blue wires
9   1 $30.0 04308 lighting coil black wire
10 1 $40.0 13373 stator plate bare 80 x 94 3+2 slots
11 1 $180  S6952 stator assembly
12 1 none  06952 magneto assembly
13 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

 

7.

1970’s-80’s CEV ⇒ magnetos with
13471 base plate 80 x 80, 04221 points

CEV 6931 Minarelli V1

1970’s Many bike makes, Euro models

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 18w (15w head + 3w tail)
red = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     internal spark coil
1   1 $90.0 04394 flywheel (rotor) says 6931 (= 6932)
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 none  00000 spark coil red wire and spark wire
9   1 none  04233? lighting coil
10 1 $58.0 13471 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2 slots
11 1 none  00000 stator assembly
12 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot

Same as 6932 except the coils. Flywheels are same except for markings.

 

CEV 6932 Minarelli V1

1977-89 Cimatti, Testi, other Italian makes
1978-85 General, Lazer, other Taiwan makes

CEV 6932 Magneto 80mm

rotation: clockwise (right)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 28/10w
red = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
1   1 $90.0 04212 flywheel (rotor) says 6932
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04221 points M18
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 75-60 04307 ignition coil blue and copper
9   1 $30.0 04308 lighting coil black wire
10 1 $58.0 13471 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2 slots
11 1 $190  04266 stator assembly
12 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot
13 1 $280  06932 magneto assembly

For late 1970’s to late 1980’s Minarelli V1 with plastic fan cover, 3 (not 2) cover base screws, 80mm 2-screw stator plate mounts. 

 

 

8.

1970’s-80’s CEV ⇐ magnetos with
13471 base plate 80 x 80, 04229 points

CEV 6420 Morini M1

1985-90 Motomarina Sebring (1-speed case reed)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.5 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
black = lights 6V 28/10w
red = ignition (points to coil)
green = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
10 1 $58.0 13471 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2-slot

US-model Morini moped engines first had Dansi 1976-79 (MO1 and MO2), then Dansi or Bosch, 1978-84 (M1), then CEV magnetos in 1985-90 (M1), approximately.

 

CEV 6933 Garelli, Demm (horizontal cylinder)

1975-86 Garelli Eureka, Sport, Gran Sport
Rally Sport, Super Sport, Basic (H1 or H2 engine)
1976-79 Demm Smily, Scout

CEV 6933 Stator

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.0 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow = lights 6V 28/10w
black = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
1   1 $90.0 04271 flywheel (rotor) says 6933
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 75-60 04307 ignition coil blue and copper
9   1 $30.0 04308 lighting coil yellow wire
10 1 $58.0 13471 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2 slots
11 1 $190  04272 stator assembly
12 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot
13 1 $280  06933 magneto assembly 6933

 

CEV 6949 Sachs 504/1 

1975-79 KTM Foxi Deluxe


rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M22-1.5 puller, 2.0 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow = lights 6V 28/10w
black = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
1   1 $100  F6949 flywheel (rotor) says 6949
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute
8   1 72-57 04287 ignition coil blue and copper
9   1 30-25 04288 lighting coil yellow wire
10 1 $58.0 13471 stator plate bare 80 x 80 2 slots
11 1 $190  04272 stator assembly
12 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4 x 12 slot
13 1 $290  06933 magneto assembly 6933

Most other 70’s mopeds with Sachs 504 engines have Bosch or Motoplat magnetos.

 

CEV 6959 Garelli (horizontal cylinder)

1980 Garelli Noi (Italy model) and others


rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 2.0 key
stator plate o.d. 80, 2 screw slots, 2 wires
yellow = lights 6V 18w?
black = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
2   2 $2.50 13061 points/cond screw M4 x 10 small head
3   1 $0.80 13494 points screw washer
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   4 $0.80 13514 coils screw M4 x 22 with washer
7   1 $2.00 13448 lubrication felt substitute

This is the same as a 6933 except for the coils.

 

 

 

T1.

Ducati clone CEV ⇐ magnetos with
13085 base plate 90 x 90, 04229 points

CEV 6943 Tomos A3

1989-91 Tomos Golden Bullet, TTLX (some)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 94, M26-1.5 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 90, 3+1 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow = lights 12V 50w (external regulator)
black = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1 $95.0 04351 flywheel (rotor) (says 6943),
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17

CEV 6943 was a replacement part for Iskra 1215, and was also on some bikes, perhaps when Iskra was unavailable. It was not in any late 1980’s Tomos USA parts manual.

 

CEV 6951 Tomos A3

1985-86 Tomos A3 Bullet (vin codes 01, 02)
Silver Bullet (04, 05, 07, 08, 09), Golden Bullet (11)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 94, M26-1.5 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 90, 3+1 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow = lights 6V 28/10w
black = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#  external spark coil
1   1 $110  04351 flywheel (rotor) (says 6951),
2   2 $2.50 13061 small head screw M4x10
3   1 $0.80 13494 points washer 4
4   1 $16.0 04229 points M14
5   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
6   1 $2.00 12192 lubrication felt
7   1 none  13125 felt holder
8   4 $0.50 13514 coils screw M4x22
9   1 none  04359 ignition coil 57 Ø94 blue & copper
9   1 $65.0 Ducati substitute Tomos 213733
10 1 $40.0 04360 lights coil 57 Ø94 yellow wire
10 1 35-20 Ducati substitute Tomos 213734
11 1 $75.0 13085 stator plate bare (says 13085)
12 1 $185  04358 stator assembly
13 3 $0.70 00000 stator screw M4x12 slot
14 1 $295  06951 magneto assembly 6951

All of the separate parts of the CEV 6951 magneto interchange with Ducati, except for the felt and felt holder. So they have the same Tomos part numbers as Ducati.

 

T2.

1970’s-80’s CEV ⇐ magnetos with
13923 base plate 80 x 90, 04229 points

CEV 6418 Tomos A3

1986-88 Tomos A3 Bullet (VIN code 12)
1986-88 A3 Bullet TT (14), A3-01 Bullet (20)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 90, 3 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow = lights 12V 28w
black = ignition (points to coil)
blue = external ignition ground
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
7   1 $16.0 04229 points M14 
8   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
26 1 none  13923 stator plate bare 80 x 90 3-slot
See Tomos A3 Engine Parts for full parts list.

During 1986 Tomos transitioned from CEV to Iskra (Yugoslavian-made Bosch-compatible) magnetos, but nothing else changed. The Golden Bullet still had a 75 watt 2-wire magneto with internal ignition ground, and an external solid state voltage regulator. The Bullet still had a 28 watt (later 50) 3-wire magneto with external ignition ground, and no external voltage regulator.

 

CEV 6436 Tomos A3 

1986-88 Tomos Golden Bullet (13), Golden Bullet TT (19)

rotation: anti-clockwise (left)
flywheel i.d. 80, M19-1.0 puller, 3.0 key
stator plate o.d. 90, 3 screw slots, 3 wires
yellow = lights 12V 75w external regulator
black = ignition (points to coil)
# qty price  CEV#     external spark coil
7   1 $16.0 04229 points M14 
8   1 $13.0 07365 condenser M17
26 1 none  13923 stator plate bare 80 x 90 3+1 slot
See Tomos A3 Engine Parts for full parts list.

Besides the bottom lighting coil there is an additional thin lighting coil on top, wired in series. The top ignition source coil is thinner, to make room for the additional lighting coil.

1986 was the debut of solid-state voltage regulation, where all the lights are powered by one generator wire. This eliminated the need for multiple lighting output wires and source coils. The generator makes enough watts for all the lights to be on at once. But most of the time some of the lights are turned off. Then the extra watts are absorbed by the regulator, and “wasted” by warming up the frame. So the lights always stay the same brightness, no matter how many are on or off. No more external ignition ground means the engine never looses spark because of the lights, like pre-1987 Tomos.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dansi Magnetos

July 16, 2014

Contents

1. Parts by Type

2. Index and Identification 

3. Parts for US-models with Aermacchi engines

4. Parts for US-models with Morini engines

5. Parts for EU-models with Morini engines

6. Parts for US-models with Benelli engines

7. Parts for EU-models with Benelli engines

8. Parts for EU-models with various engines

 

 

1. Dansi Parts by Type

Dansi Dansi bicycle generator

Armando Dansi and his company made bicycle generators and lights in Varese, Italy, since the 1930’s. 

Dansi magneto generators (power dynamos) were on 1950’s to 1980’s Italian small motorcycles and mopeds, such as Aermacchi, Benelli, Cagiva, Fantic, Italjet, Lambretta, Lem, Malanca, Rizzato, Zannetti, and non-Italian brands such as Flandria, NSU and NVT.

On US-models 1960 to 1990, Dansi magnetos were original on mini-cycles and mopeds with engines by Aermacchi (Harley Davidson),  Benelli (Benelli and Moto Guzzi) and Morini (Arciero, Baretta, Benvenuti, Beta, Bianchi, Cimatti, Cosmo, Colt, F. Morini, Fantic, Garelli, Intramotor-Gloria, Indian, Italjet, Italvelo, Italtelai, LEM, Malaguti, Motobecane Sebring, Negrini, NVT, Pacer, Scorpion, Snark, Spisni Lino, Velomec, West Wind).

Sources: Some Benelli part numbers are from original parts catalogs displayed on Benelli Bauer. Some are not listed in Benelli Bauer. They are from original parts catalogs and suppliers lists.

 

 
6 points (contacts) ruttori (contatti) and 8 stator plates (piatti statore)

Dansi Points
mm# sgr# rot M#  Dansi# price 0  ’76-on 00000  70’s  000000   60’s
mm# sgr# rot M#  Dansi# price 0  Benelli# 00  Benelli# 0000 Benelli#  

1D 01.3235 ⇒M00 000000 $18.0 62.70.96.00? 000.000.0.000 SD5/B
1S  01.3236 ⇐M00 000000 $26.0 35.70.88.00 799.001.0.799 G221/4

2D 01.3239 ⇒M00 000000 $29.0 69.70.88.00 779.002.0.799 CS0004
2S  01.3240 ⇐M00 000000 $19.0 70.70.88.20 000.000.0.000 M56/2

3D 01.3558 ⇒M18 408800 $16.0 48.70.88.70 779.014.0.799 
3S  01.3557 ⇐M14 000000 $16.0 

 


Dansi Condensers
sgr#   rot.  M#  Dansi# price     ’76-on 00000 70’s  00000   60’s
sgr#   rot.  M#  Dansi# price    Benelli#       Benelli#        Benelli#
type   rot.   capacitance  size

00.0000     M00 000000 none  35.70.86.00 723.001.0.799 G221/6
∅18 flange type, 0.29mf ∅17.9 x 21 with wires  use M17D

07.0074   M17D 403966 $15.0 48.70.86.70 723.002.0.799 G26/2
∅18 flange type, 0.29mf ∅17.9 x 21, no wires  can use M17

07.0207     M17 000000 $13.0 
∅18 flange type, 0.30mf ∅17.8 x 25, no wires

 


 Flywheel Nuts
  price   ’76-on 0000  70’s  00000  60’s 000 for
price    Benelli#       Benelli#       Benelli#  engines

none  00.00.00.00 264.025.0.799 G7090  GM
$00.0 flywheel nut M9-1.0 x 12, ∅13 x 6, hex14 x 6
$00.0 superseded by UI7090 

$9.50 48.71.95.70 264.025.0.799 UI7090 G2
$00.0 flywheel nut M9-1.0 x 16, ∅13 x 10, hex14 x 6

none  92.75.00.73 264.004.0.799 I9020   FA, 4M
$00.0 flywheel nut M9-1.0 x 14, ∅13 x 8, hex14 x 6

$7.00 substitute for GM, G2, FA, 4M
$00.0 flywheel nut M9-1.0 x 9 hex 12 (uses a 12 socket)

none  35.06.72.70 000.000.0.799 00000  4M-1978
$00.0 flywheel nut not yet identified

 

Dansi Flywheel Pullers 
fig# part# 0 price    all have M19-1.00 thread unless noted
1.  P19100  $18.0 flywheel puller M19-1.0 thread
2.  P19x22  $19.0 flywheel puller M19-1.0 and M22-1.5

 


Dansi Coils
H  S  W  L  price Dansi# M#  Benelli# 00  Benelli# 0000 Benelli#
H  S  W  L  for magneto#

Ignition Source Coils internal ground, one wire
4 46 00 00 none  0000 M00 00.00.00.00 713.001.0799 R3086/D
0 00 00 00 for ASL308NB (R3086) .
4 4? 00 00 none  0000 M00 00.00.00.00 713.009.0799 R2063/F
0 00 00 00 for (R2063) .
4 4? 00 00 none  0000 M00 00.00.00.00 713.008.0799
0 00 00 00 for (FA3774) .
4 47 12 72 $75.0 0000 M20 48.71.50.90
0 00 00 00 for 101441 (48.71.24.90) .
4 47 00 00 none  0000 M00 48.71.50.71
0 00 00 00 for 101662? .
4 47 14 72 none  6218 M00 SGR 00.1348
0 00 00 00 replacement .

Ignition Source Coils external ground, two wires
4 47 14 72 none  0000 M27 71.71.50.25
0 00 00 00 for 101732, 101765, 101813 .

Ignition Spark Coils
4 47 10 72 none  6400 M00 48.71.50.70 713.006.0799 N14/B
0 00 00 00 for 100892 (48.71.24.71), others .
4 47 10 72 none  6400 M00 SGR 00.1137
0 00 00 00 replacement .

000 D18 106 713.006.0.799 48.71.50.70  N/A     N14/B (lower) internal spark coil B

Lighting Source Coils
4 46 00 00 none  0000 M00 00.00.00.00 000.000.0799 R3086/B
0 00 00 00 for ASL308NB (R3086) .
4 4? 00 00 none  0000 M00 00.00.00.00 713.010.0799 R2063/C
0 00 00 00 for ??????? (R2063) .
4 47 00 00 none  0000 M00 48.71.51.70 713.005.0799 N14/C
0 00 00 00 for ??????? (FA3774) .
4 47 00 00 none  0000 M00 48.71.51.70 713.005.0799 N14/C
0 00 00 00 for MDP44? .
4 47 15 72 $65.0 6533 M21 48.71.51.90
0 00 00 00 for 101441 6V 25/10w .
4 47 00 00 none  0000 M00 48.71.51.70
0 00 00 00 for ???????  6V18w? .
4 47 00 00 none  0000 M00 48.71.51.71
0 00 00 00 for 101662? 6V25w? .
4 47 15 72 $65.0 0000 M28 71.71.51.25
0 00 00 00 for 101813 6V25w .

 

Hardware

Dansi#   M# 0 Benelli# 0000 Benelli# 00 price 0 Benelli# .

000000 M00 742.005.0.799 48.70.95.70 N/A     G221/11
000000 M00 felt greaser
000000 M15 793.007.0.799 35.70.79.00 $2.50 G221/3
000000 M00 points screw M4x8 small head
000000 M16 793.007.0.799 35.70.79.00 $0.20 G221/3
000000 M00 points screw lock washer M4 x 9 x 1
000000 M00 793.008.0.799 00.00.00.00 $0.00 R2063/E
000000 M00 ignition coil screw M5
000000 M22 776.013.0.799 70.71.89.20 $0.40 G221/8
000000 M00 coil lock washer M4 x 7 thin
000000 M25 793.041.0.799 35.71.57.50 $1.20 G221/7
000000 M00 coil screw M4 x 25 slot
000000 M00 000.000.0.000 48.71.57.50 $1.60 G0000
000000 M00 coil screw and washer M4 x 25
000000 M00 783.006.0.799 48.71.57.70 N/A     SD404/1
000000 M00 screws and washers

 

 

 

2. Index and Identification

Look up your magneto number to see what section the parts are in.

D<<rotation o.d plate years  in section
ADL54? 000 110  1Da  60-66  6. US Benelli
ADL54/ANB 110  1Da  65-68  6. US Benelli
ADL60 000  110  1Da  60-63  8. EU various
ADL2S 000  110  2Db  60-67  8. EU various
ADL250B 0  110  2Dc  00-00  8. EU various
ADP44 000  110  2Dc  62-72  7. EU Benelli
ADP79AN 0  110  000  67-67  7. EU Benelli
ADL8 0000  110  2Db  00-00  8. EU various
MDL102 00  110? 2De  00-00  8. EU various
MDL111 00  110  2Dd  70-73  4. US Morini
ADP220VS   fan   2Dd  65-67  6. US Benelli
ADP244S 0  110  2Dd  69-73  6. US Benelli
MDP44 000  110  2Dd  67-73  7. EU Benelli
100892 D    110  2Dd  70-74  7. EU Benelli
100884 D    103  3Db  78-80  7. EU Benelli
101441 D    103  3Db  76-77  6. US Benelli
101662 D    103  3Db  74-84  7. EU Benelli
101813 D    103  3Db  77-80  6. US Benelli

S >>rotation o.d plate years  in section
ASL111          110  2sc  67-70  8. EU various
ASL204NS   110  1Sb  67-73  6. US Benelli G314
ASL234NS   110  1Sb  73-74  3. US Aermacchi
ASL251S 0   110  1Sb  00-00  3. US Aermacchi 
ASL5N 000  110  1Sc  60-68  6. US Benelli
ASL6? 000   110? 1Sc  00-00  5. EU Morini
ASL205NS   110  1Sc  65-75  6. US Benelli
ASL206S? 0 110? 1Sc  71-72  4. US Morini
ASL233S 0   110  1Sc  71-72  4. US Morini
ASL233NS   110  1Sc  71-72  4. US Morini
ASL308NB   103  1Sc  73-76  6. US Benelli
ASL314B  0  103  1Sc  73-74  7. EU Benelli
ASL236NS   110  2Sc  00-00  3. US Aermacchi
ASL237 00   110  2Sc  72-72  3. US Aermacchi
MSL105 00  110  2Sc  74-80  7. EU Benelli
ASL207?  0   110  2Sd  65-66  6. US Benelli 
ASL222S 0   110  2Sd  64-66  3. US Aermacchi 
ASL223VS     fan  2Sd  66-69  4. US Morini
ASL232S  0  110  2Sd  70-72  6. US Benelli
MSL111 00  110  2Sd  00-00  5. EU Morini
101286 S    103  3Sc  75-79  4. US Morini
101603 S    103  3Sc  00-00  5. EU Morini
101732 S    103  3Sc  75-77  4. US Morini
101765 S    103  3Sc  76-80  4. US Morini
102690 S    103  3Sc  00-00  5. EU Morini

Stator Plate Versions with links to photos
mm# o.d. slots   slots   points under   upper   lower
mm# o.d. slots   type   points points 0 coil 00  coil    Dansi#

1Da  ∅94 2+3 plain 5 xx  1D smooth  4 x 46? 4 x 46?
000  Benelli SD6 .
1Sb  ∅94 2+3 stepped 4  1S   ribbed  4 x 46? 4 x 46?
000  Benelli G221/1, Aermacchi .
1Sc   ∅94 2+3 stepped 4  1S smooth  5 x 43  4 x 46  3842
000  Benelli R2063/B = 772.001.0.799, Morini .
2Db  ∅94 2+3 stepped 4  2D smooth  4 x 47  4 x 47
000  various .
2Dc  ∅94 2+3 stepped 4  2D   ribbed  4 x 47  4 x 47
000  Benelli, various .
2Sc   ∅94 2+3 stepped 4  2S   ribbed  4 x 47  4 x 47
000  Aermacchi .
2Dd  ∅94 2+3 long step 4 2D smooth  4 x 47  4 x 47
000  Benelli SD462/3 = 772.006.0.799 G2,GM, Morini
2Sd  ∅94 2+3 long step 4 2S  smooth  4 x 47  4 x 47  2 versions
000  Benelli M56/1, Aermacchi 29549-65PA, Morini .
2De  ∅80 2     plain 4  xx 2D smooth  4 x 47  4 x 47
000  various .
3Db  ∅94 2+3 stepped 4  3D smooth  4 x 47  4 x 47
000 Benelli 69.70.22.07 G2 .
3Sc   ∅80 2     plain 4  xx 3S smooth  4 x 47  4 x 47
000 Morini mmi# M44 and M44A .

This identification data is from measurement of actual plates and from internet images. Only the older “1” type plates have Dansi numbers. The others have no markings. So here we use mm numbers with encoded digits. Digits 1 and 2 encode the points. Digit 3 encodes the outer diameter and mounting slots. Knowing the plate identity helps to identify the points and coils, and visa versa.

Magnetos
eng  Benelli# 000 Benelli# 0000 Benelli#  magneto#.
FA   00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  G221 0  ASL205NS .
FA   70.71.24.00 000.000.0799  G7094 0  MSL105? Export FA .
3VK 00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  G221 0  ASL205NS .
3VK 00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  000000 ADP220VS .
3VK 70.71.16.20 000.000.0799  000000 100884 ’78 3VK-NT .
3VK 70.71.24.00 000.000.0799  G7094 0  MSL105? Export FA 1976 .
4M   00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  G314 0  ASL204NS .
4M   00.00.00.00 427.016.0799  R2063   ???????  ’70’s Turismo .
4M   35.71.24.00 000.000.0799  000000 ???????  ’78 Turismo .
4MS 00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  G26 00  ASL5N
4MS 00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  G221 0  ASL205NS .
GM   00.00.00.00 427.022.0799  FA3774  ??????? G.man, Motorella .
GM, G2 00.00.00 427.005.0799  N14  0  MDP44 ’67-73 Gentleman, Bobo .
G2   48.71.24.71 427.027.0799  N14  0  100892 ’70-75 Bobo, Guzzi Chiu .
G2   48.71.24.72 000.000.0799  000000 101662 G.man 2, ’78-G2, G2 Elle .
G2   48.71.24.90 000.000.0799  000000 101441  G2-US .
G2   69.71.24.15 000.000.0799  000000  ???????  Gentleman 1974 .
G2   71.71.24.25 000.000.0799  000000 101813 G2-US .
GK   00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  N134 0  ADP244S .
90   00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  R3086   ASL308MB
125 00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  M56 00  ASL207?
125 00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  M246 0  ??????? ’65-69 Cobra 125 .
175 00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  M375 0  ASL232S .
250 00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  SD596   ADL54?
250 00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  SD595   ADL54/ANB .
00   00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  000000

 

 

3. US models with Aermacchi engines

 


ASL222S  ∅82 x 110 alum. rotor, ∅94 3+2 long-slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 5

’65-66 Harley Davidson M50, MS50
29529-65P   $19.0 points 01.3240 M56/2
32726-65P   $15.0 condenser 07.0074 M17D
11212P-00   $0.00 woodruff key 2.5?
29595-65P   none  flywheel nut M9-1.0
29595-65P   $7.00 substitute M9-1.0 x 9 hex12
29549-65PA none  base plate ⇐ 3+2 long-slot = Benelli M56/1

 


ASL234NS  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, puller M19-1, type 5

’73-74 Harley Davidson X-90, Z-90
$26.0 points 01.3236 
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D
none  base plate ⇐ 3+2 slot = Benelli G221/1

 

 
ASL236NS  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 5

’70-73 Harley Davidson ML65 Leggero
29529-65P   $19.0 points 01.3240 M56/2
32726-65P   $15.0 condenser 07.0074 M17D
11212P-00   $0.00 woodruff key 2.5?
29595-65P   none  flywheel nut M9-1.0
29595-65P   $7.00 substitute M9-1.0 x 9 hex12
29549-65PA none  base plate ⇐ 3+2 slot
29549-65PA none  long slots got shorter but # stayed the same

 


ASL237  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, puller M19-1, type 5

’72 Harley Davidson Rapido 125
29529-65P $19.0 points 01.3240 M56/2
32726-65P $15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 

 

 

 
ASL251S  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, puller M19-1, type 5

’70’s Harley Davidson
000 $19.0 points 01.3240 M56/2
000 $15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 

 

 

 

4. US models with Morini engines

 


ASL223VS   ∅82 x fan alum. rotor, ∅94 3+2 long-slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 5

’66-69 Chris  Cycle (Wilier) M2, M2V with Morini 3CV engine
$19.0 points 01.3240 = M56/2
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 

 
ASL233S  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 2

’71-72 Indian MX100, Motorsport 100 off-road, Morini 101 engine
ASL206  none  magneto ASL233S
ASL6/1   none  rotor (flywheel)
ASL6/2   none  base plate
ASL6/4   none  lights coil
ASL6/6   $26.0 points 01.3236 = G221/4
ASL6/10 $15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D
ASL6/18 none  ignition source coil (internally grounded)
12.7005 $0.00 flywheel key
13.3002 $0.00 flywheel nut

Link to Indian Dirt Bike Parts Manuals

 

 
ASL233NS  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 5

’71-72 Indian Bobcat on-road mini-cycle, Morini 101 engine
ASL206/SC  none  magneto ASL233NS
ASL6/1 000 none  rotor (flywheel)
ASL6/2 000 none  base plate
ASL6/4 000 none  lights coil
ASL6/6 000 $26.0 points 01.3236 = G221/4
ASL6/10 00 $15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D
ASL6/18B 0 none  ignition source coil with ground wire
12.7005 00 $0.00 flywheel key
13.3002 00 $0.00 flywheel nut

 

 
MDL111  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 long-slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, puller M19-1, Morini 29.0006, type 1

’70-73 Indian (Italjet) MM5A, JC5A Morini S5K, S5K2 engine
and ’70’s EU models with Morini F5M2, M4 engine
MDL111/6   $29.0points 01.3239
MDL111/10 $15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 


101286  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅80 2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, Morini 29-0034, type 4

’75-77 Intramotor-Gloria Morini MO1 engine
’76-79 NVT, Malaguti Morini MO1, MO2 engine
’76-79 Pacer Sport (some), others Morini MO1, MO2 engine
M#  qty  price  description
M14   1 $16.0 points CEV-type for left rotation
M15   2 $2.50 screw for points & cond. M4 x 8 small head
M16   1 $0.20 lock washer for points screw Ø4 x 9 x 1
M17   1 $15.0 condenser M17D
M22   5 $0.40 thin lock washer for cond. & coil screws Ø4
M00   2 $1.00 29-6022 stator plate screws M4 x 12 phillips
M12   1  N/A    felt wiper, early type
M20   1 $75.0 ignition coil up. 47-12-72 1 short cond. wire
M21   1 $65.0 lighting coil lo. 47-15-72 long grn, long blk
M24   2 $0.50 ignition coil screw M4 x 20 slot
M25   2 $0.50 lighting coil screw M4 x 25 slot
M26   1  N/A    steel flywheel, says 101286 ( same as 101765)
M44   1  N/A    stator plate with cut-out for spark coil
M45   1 $190. stator assembly OD ∅80, slots ∅65, at 9 & 3 o’clock
M83   1 $4.50 woodruff key M83 12-7025 2.5 x 9 (x 3)
M00   1 none  29-0034 magneto 101286 = M26 + M45

M20 ignition coil for Dansi 101286

M20 ignition coil
for Dansi 101286

M21 lighting coil for Dansi 101286

M21 lighting coil
for Dansi 101286

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


101765  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅80 2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, Morini 29-0045, type 5

’76-85 Motomarina, Scorpion Morini MO1, MO2 engine
’77-80 Motobecane Sebring Morini MO1, MO2 engine
’76-80 Pacer (some), others Morini MO1, MO2, M1, MO4B engine
M#  qty  price  description 
M14   1 $16.0 points CEV-type for left rotation
M15   2 $2.50 screw for points & cond. M4 x 8 small head
M16   1 $0.20 lock washer for points screw Ø4 x 9 x 1
M17   1 $15.0 condenser M17D
M22   5 $0.40 thin lock washer for cond. & coil screws Ø4
M00   2 $1.00 29-6022 stator plate screws M4 x 12 phillips
M12A 1  N/A    felt wiper, late type
M25A 4 $0.50 ign and light coil screw M4 x 25 phillips
M26A 1 $150. steel flywheel, says 101765 (=101286)
M27   1 none  ignition coil up. 47-14-72 long grn, to cond.
M28   1 $65.0 lighting coil lo. 47-15-72 long black wire
M44A 1  N/A    stator plate, no cut-out for  spark coil
M45A 1 $200. stator assembly OD ∅80, slots ∅65, at 9 & 3 o’clock
M83   1 $4.50 woodruff key M83 12-7025 2.5 x 9 (x 3)
M00   1 $330. 29-0045 magneto 101765 = M26A + M45A

M27 ignition coil for Dansi 101765

M27 ignition coil
for Dansi 101765

M27 ignition coil for Dansi 101765

M28 lighting coil
for Dansi 101765

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


101732  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅80 2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, Morini 29-0045, type 5
superseded in early 1977 by 101765

’75-77 Intramotor-Gloria (some), others, Morini MO1 engine
M#  qty  price  description
M14   1 $16.0 points CEV-type for left rotation
M15   2 $2.50 screw for points & cond. M4 x 8 small head
M16   1 $0.20 lock washer for points screw Ø4 x 9 x 1
M17   1 $15.0 condenser M17D
M22   5 $0.40 thin lock washer for cond. & coil screws Ø4
M00   2 $1.00 29-6022 stator plate screws M4 x 12 phillips
M12   1  N/A    felt wiper, early type
M25   4 $0.50 ignition and lighting coil screw M4 x 25 slot
M26A 1  N/A    steel flywheel, says 101732 (same as 101286)
M27   1 none  ignition source coil (upper) 47-14-72 1 long green, 1 to condenser
M28   1 $65.0 lighting source coil (lower) 47-15-72 1 long black wire
M44   1  N/A    stator plate, early (same but with cut-out, for internal spark coil)
M45A 1  N/A    stator assembly OD ∅80, slots ∅65, at 9 & 3 o’clock
M83   1 $4.50 woodruff key M83 12-7025 2.5 x 9 (x 3)

 

M27 coil: Because the service manuals did not mention the “external ignition ground” troubleshooting procedure, where you ground the green wire to get spark, many people have replaced the coils, both the internal M27 ignition source coil and the external spark coil (transformer), when they did not need them. As a result, the supply of M27 source coils has ran out.  

M44 plate: The M44 stator plate bare (for 101286) and the M44A (for 101765) have different part numbers and different felt wipers, but they do interchange. The M44A has no cut-out for a internal transformer spark coil, and so is a later design. The M44A is made stronger.  

On a moped with a Morini engine, the number on the Dansi flywheel tells 1) what magneto it has, external (101765 or 101732) or internal (101286) ignition ground, 2) what brake light wiring the bike has, series brake light switches (9342 normally closed) in parallel with the light for 101765 or 101732, or parallel brake light switches (9343 normally open) in series with the light for 101286, 3) what CEV 9530 tail light version it has, one with a brake light resistor hidden inside (101765 or 101732), or with no resistor (101286).This matters a lot when troubleshooting a bike that has no spark. Bikes with external ignition ground often loose spark because of a loose brake light wire. On those you always ground (connect to the frame) the green magneto wire first, and then re-check for spark. That way you will know if the problem is external, in the bikes wires and lights, or internal in the magneto, such as dirty points.

 

 

5. EU models with Morini engines

 

  
ASL6?  ∅82 x 110? aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 1

various models off-road with Morini 101 engine
Morini#  price
29-0022  none  magneto without B.A.T.E.
= without bobina alta tension esterna (external high tension coil)
ASL6/2   none  base plate
ASL6/3   none  internal spark (high tension) coil
ASL6/4   none  lights coil
ASL6/6   $26.0 points 01.3236 = G221/4
ASL6/10 $15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D
12.7005   $0.00 flywheel key
13.3002   $0.00 flywheel nut

 


MSL111  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 1

’60’s models with Morini M4 engine
$19.0 points xxx 01.3240 = M56/2
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 


102690  ∅82 ∅103 steel rotor, ∅80 2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 2

1980’s models with Morini M1K engine
$16.0 points xxx 01.3557 = M14
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 


101603  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, Morini 29.0045, type 2

70’s-80’s models with Morini M4? engine
$16.0 points xxx 01.3557 = M14
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 

 

6. US models with Benelli engines

 


ASL5N  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 2

1965-68 Benelli Fireball 50 with Benelli 4MS engine
106 none  G26  magneto ASL5N
110 $0.00 I 9020  flywheel nut
099 $2.00 G7274  woodruff key #M81 2.0 x 3.7
193 none  G221/1  base plate
196 $26.0 G221/4  points 01.3236
194 none  G26/1  ignition coil
195 none  G26/3  lights coil
198 $15.0 G26/2  condenser 07.0074 M17D

 


ASL205NS  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 5

1965-66 Riverside 450 SS Sport 50 with Benelli 4MS engine
1965-68 Riverside Moped with Benelli FA engine
1974-75 Benelli 3V, 3VK with Benelli 3V, 3VK engine
106 none  G221  magneto ASL205NS
110 $0.00 I 9020  flywheel lock nut
099 $2.00 G7274  woodruff key #M81 2.0 x 3.7
193 none  G221/1  base plate
196 $26.0 G221/4  points 01.3236
194 none  G221/2  ignition coil
201 none  G221/9  lights coil
198 $15.0 G221/6  condenser 07.0074 M17D

 


ASL20  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 long-slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 2

1967-68 Riverside Lightweight 175, 1967 Scrambler 175

 

 

 


ASL207?  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 long-slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 2

1965 Riverside Touring 125, 1966 Scrambler 125
156 none  M56  magneto
158 $0.00 M58  flywheel nut
144 $2.00 G7274  woodruff key #M81 2.0 x 3.7
178 none  M56/1  base plate
181 $19.0 M56/2  points
182 none  M56/3  ignition coil
182 none  M56/4  lights coil, green and black wires
187 $15.0 G221/6  condenser M17D

 

 
ASL???  ∅82 x 110? aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 5

1965-69 Ward Riverside 125 Lightweight
1965-69 Benelli Cobra 125, 1966-71 Cobra 125 Trail
156 none  M246  magneto
158 $0.00 M58  flywheel nut
099 $2.00 G7274  woodruff key #M81 2.0 x 3.7
178 none  M56/1  base plate
181 $19.0 M56/2  points
182 none  M56/3  ignition coil
182 none  M246/B  lights coil
187 $15.0 G221/6  condenser

 


ADP220VS  ∅82 x fan aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 long-slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 5

1965-67 Riverside Scooter 350-S with Benelli 3V engine

 

 

 

 
ADP244S  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 5

1969-69 Benelli Buzzer, Hornet GK engine
1970-73 Benelli Buzzer 65, 1970-72 Buzzer 65 Jr GK65 engine
1971-72 Benelli Hurricane 65 GK65 engine
072 none  N134  magneto ADP244S
069 $0.00 G7090  flywheel nut
076 $2.00 G7274  woodruff key #M81 2.0 x 3.7
161 none  SD426/3  base plate
158 $29.0 CS 0004  points 01.3239
153 none  G221/2  spark coil
153 none  G314/A  lights coil
159 $15.0 G221/6  condenser

 

 
ADL54/ANB  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, machined flywheel, Benelli SD595, type 5

1965-68 Benelli Sprite 125  OHV engine
$18.0 points 01.3235 = SD5/B
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D = 1984/F

 


ADL54?  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, machined flywheel?, Benelli SD596, type 5

1965-68 Benelli Sprite 200, 250 OHV engine
1967-68 Benelli Barracuda 250 OHV engine
$18.0 points 01.3235 = SD5/B
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D = 1984/F

 


ASL204NS  ∅82 ∅110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 5

1967-69 Benelli Dynamo 50 Compact, 1969 Dynamo 50 Trail (69) 4M
1970-71 Benelli Dynamo 65 Compact, Woodsbike, Scrambler (71) 4M65
1972-72 Benelli Dynamo 65 Compact, Woodsbike, Scrambler (72) 4M65
1970-72 Benelli Cougar 65 (71-on)
1970-73 Benelli Mini Enduro 65
106 none  G314  magneto ASL204NS
110 $0.00 G7090  flywheel nut
110 $0.00 I 9020  flywheel nut (Dynamo 50 only)
099 $2.00 G7274  woodruff key #M81 2.0 x 3.7
193 none  G221/1  base plate
196 $26.0 G221/4  points 01.3236
194 none  G221/2  ignition coil
194 none  G314/A  lights coil
198 $15.0 G221/6  condenser 07.0074 M17D

 


ASL232S  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 5

1970-72 Benelli Volcano 180
148 none  M375  magneto ASL232S
150 $0.00 M58  flywheel nut M10?
136 $2.00 G7274  woodruff key #M81 2.0 x 3.7
206 none  M56/1  base plate
208 $19.0 M56/2  points 01.3240
209 none  M375/C  ignition coil
209 none  M375/B  lights coil
203 $15.0 G221/6  condenser 07.0074

 


ASL308NB  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 4

1973-76 Benelli Banshee 90 with 90 single
1973-74 Benelli Panther 125 with 125 single 
116 none  000.000.0799  R3086  magneto ASL308NB
114 $0.00 264.004.0799  I 9020  flywheel nut
121 $2.00 958.006.0799  G7274  woodruff key #M81 2.0 x 3.7
198 none  772.001.0799  R2063/B  base plate
202 $26.0 799.001.0799  G221/4  points 01.3236
203 none  000.000.0799  R3086/B  coil
203 none  713.001.0799  R3086/D  coil
200 $15.0 723.001.0799  G221/6  condenser M17D

 


101441  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 4

1976-77 Benelli Blazer with Benelli G2 engine
1976-77 Moto Guzzi Robin, Chiu with Benelli G2 engine
000 48.71.24.90  M00 none  magneto 101441
074 35.70.79.00  M00 $9.50 UI7090 flywheel nut M9-1.0 x 16
074 35.70.79.00  M00 $00.0 ∅13 x 10 inside, hex14 x 6 outside
102 69.70.22.07  M00 none  stator plate for 1-piece CEV-left points
103 40.70.95.70  M00 none  G221/11 felt wiper/greaser
104 35.70.79.00  M15 $2.50 G221/3 points & condenser screw
104 35.70.79.00  M15 $00.0 M4 x 8 small head, replacement
105 35.70.86.00 M17D$15.0 G221/6 condenser M17D
106 48.71.50.90  M20 $75.0 ignition source coil (lower) 1 short wire
107 48.70.88.70  M18 $16.0 points, 1-piece CEV-left-hand type
108 48.71.51.90  M21 $65.0 lights coil 6V 15/10w (upper) grn, blk
109 70.71.89.20  M22 $0.20 G221/8 thin lock washer ∅4 x 7 x 0.5
110 35.71.57.50  M25 $0.50 G221/7 coil screw M4 x 25 slot
111 48.71.16.81  M00 none  steel flywheel, says 101441 
112 48.71.57.70  M00 none  SD404/1 screws and washers kit
113 98.20.04.10  M00 $0.70 stator plate screw M4 x 12 slot

Benelli Blazer was the USA version of the Benelli Bobo.

Moto Guzzi Robin (sheet frame) was the USA version of the Moto Guzzi Chiu. The Moto Guzzi Robin (monotube frame) was the same as the Benelli G2. The Moto Guzzi Robin with stamped sheet-metal frame had either a Dansi 101813 external ignition ground magneto, or a Dansi 101441 internal ignition ground magneto. The blue one above with 101441 had normally open brake light switches connected in parallel, so the brake light did not get power until either switch was closed. If the green wire became disconnect, the engine would still run.

The late 1970’s Dansi steel magneto flywheels for Benelli look like the late 1970’s Morini ones, but the rotation is opposite, clockwise and the stator plate is very different. The stator plate has 5 mounting slots, not two, and is larger. The stator plate has two upper mount screws and one lower. The upper lighting coil is notched for the screw installation. The lower ignition coil is not notched.

 

Dansi 101813 on Moto Guzzi Robin
101813  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 5

1977-80 Benelli G2 with Benelli G2 engine
1977-80 Moto Guzzi Robin with Benelli G2 engine
000 71.71.24.25  M00 none  magneto 101813
074 35.70.79.00  M00 $9.50 UI7090 flywheel nut M9-1.0 x 16
074 35.70.79.00  M00 $00.0 ∅13 x 10 inside, hex14 x 6 outside
102 69.70.22.07  M00 none  stator plate 
103 40.70.95.70  M00 none  G221/11 felt wiper/greaser
104 35.70.79.00  M15 $2.50 G221/3 points & condenser screw
104 35.70.79.00  M15 $00.0 M4 x 8 small head, replacement
105 35.70.86.00 M17D$15.0 G221/6 condenser M17D
106 71.71.50.25  M27 none  ign. source coil (lower) grn, short
107 48.70.88.70  M18 $16.0 points M18
108 71.71.51.25  M28 $65.0 lights coil 6V 25w (upper) 1 black
109 70.71.89.20  M22 $0.20 G221/8 thin lock washer ∅4 x 7 x 0.5
110 35.71.57.50  M25 $0.50 G221/7 coil screw M4 x 25 slot
111 71.71.21.25  M00 none  steel flywheel, says 101813 
112 48.71.57.70  M00 none  SD404/1 screws and washers kit
113 98.20.04.10  M00 $0.70 stator plate screw M4 x 12 slot

Moto Guzzi Robin (sheet frame) was the USA version of the Moto Guzzi Chiu. The Moto Guzzi Robin (monotube frame) was the same as the Benelli G2. The Moto Guzzi Robin with stamped sheet-metal frame had either a Dansi 101813 external ignition ground magneto, or a Dansi 101441 internal ignition ground magneto. The orange one above with 101813 had normally closed brake light switches connected in series, so the brake light was normally shorted out, until either switch was opened. If the green wire became disconnected, like when the brake light wires were unplugged, the engine would not run.

External ignition ground: On a 101813 the ignition coil has an external ground, the green wire. It must always be grounded in order to have spark. The green wire powers the brake light. Normally the brake light switches are closed, taking all the electricity from the brake light. Opening either brake light switch causes the brake light to go on, opposite to all normal light switches. Normal light switches close to make the light go on. Think of it like turning off your shower, by turning on the garden hose.

 

 

7. EU models with Benelli engines

 


100892 ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 1

1970-74? Benelli Bobo with Benelli G2 engine
071 none  427.027.0799 N14  magneto 100892 ?
074 $9.50 264.025.0799 UI7090 flywheel nut M9-1.0 x 16
074 $00.0 ∅13 x 10 inside, hex14 x 6 outside wheel
061 $2.00 958.006.0143 G7274  woodruff key
102 none  772.006.0799 SD462/3  base plate
103 none  742.005.0799 G221/11  felt greaser
104 none  793.007.0799 G221/3  points screw M4 x 8 small slot
104 $2.50 793.007.0799 replacement M4 x 8 small phillips
105 $15.0 000.000.0000 G26/2  condenser M17D
106 none  713.006.0799 N14/B  spark coil
107 $29.0 000.000.0000 CS0004 points 01.3239
108 none  713.005.0799 N14/C  lights coil
109 $0.20 776.013.0799 G221/8  lock washer ∅4 thin
110 $0.50 793.041.0799 G221/7  coil screw M4 x 25(23) slot
111 none  780.003.0799 N14/A  flywheel rotor Bobo
112 none  783.006.0799 SD404/1  screws and washers
113 none  983.042.0125 MU1147 stator plate screw M4 x 10 slot
113 $1.20 983.042.0125 MU1147 replacement M4 x 10 phillips

 


MDP44  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 1

1967-70? Benelli Gentlemen with Benelli GM engine
1970-73? Benelli Bobo 1 with Benelli G2 engine
1970-73? Benelli Bobo 2 with Benelli G2 engine
071 none  427.005.0799  N14  magneto MDP44?
074 $9.50 264.025.0799 UI7090 flywheel nut M9-1.0 x 16
074 $00.0 ∅13 x 10 inside, hex14 x 6 outside wheel
061 $2.00 958.006.0143  G7274  woodruff key
102 none  772.006.0799  SD462/3  base plate
107 $29.0 779.002.0799  CS0004  points 01.3239
106 none  713.006.0799  N14/B  spark coil
108 none  713.005.0799  N14/C  lights coil
105 $15.0 723.002.0799  G26/2  condenser M17D

 


ASL314B  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 4

1973-74 Benelli 125, 250 twin cylinder
$19.0 points xxx 01.3240 (two sets)
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = 35708600 = M17D

 


ADP44  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 2

1970-73 Benelli Gentleman with Benelli GM engine
1962-72 Moto Morini Corsarino 50
$29.0 points xxx 01.3239
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 


ADP79AN  ∅?? x ?? brass rotor, ∅110 3 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type ?

1967 Benelli Baracuda 250 (Australia model)
$18.0 points 01.3235 = SD5/B
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D = 1984/F

 


MSL105 ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 1
Benelli 70.71.24.00 = G7094/4

1974-on Benelli 3VK with Benelli 3VK engine
1976-on Benelli Export FA with Benelli FA engine
$19.0 points xxx 01.3240 = M56/2
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 


100844  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 2

1978? Benelli 3VK-NT (Export FA) with 3VK engine
000 70.71.16.20  M00 none  magneto 100884

 

 


101662  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 2

1978-on Benelli G2 Version A pedali G2 engine
1974-on G2 Elle with G2K engine
071 none  48.71.24.72  magneto 101662?
074 $0.00 48.71.95.70  flywheel nut
061 $2.00 91.60.02.38  woodruff key
102 none  69.70.22.07  base plate
107 $16.0 48.70.88.70  points M18 01.3558
106  48.71.50.71  ignition coil
108  48.71.51.71  lights coil
105 $15.0 35.70.86.00  condenser M17D

 


101662  ∅82 x 103 steel rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, M19-1 puller, type 2

Benelli ? with Benelli G2 engine
100  48.71.24.71 M00 1  N/A    magneto 101662? 
102  69.70.22.07 M00 1  N/A    stator plate for 1-piece CEV-left points
103  40.70.95.70 M00 1  N/A    G221/11 felt wiper/greaser
104  35.70.79.00 M15 2 $2.50 G221/3 points & condenser screw
104  35.70.79.00 M15 2 $00.0 M4 x 8 small head, replacement
105  48.70.86.70 M00 1 $15.0 G221/6 condenser M17D
106  48.71.50.70 M00 1  N/A    spark coil (lower) 1 spark wire
107  48.70.88.70 M18 1 $16.0 points, 1-piece CEV-left-hand type
108  48.71.51.70 M00 1  N/A    lights coil 6V 18W (upper) 1 black? wire
109  70.71.89.20 M22 4 $0.20 G221/8 thin lock washer ∅4 x 7 x 0.5
110  35.71.57.50 M25 4 $0.50 G221/7 coil screw M4 x 25 slot
112  48.71.57.70 M00 1  N/A    SD404/1 screws and washers kit
113  98.20.04.10 M00 3 $0.70 stator plate screw M4 x 12 slot

 

 

 

’70’s Benelli Turismo 50, Cross 50 with Benelli 4M engine
134  00.00.00.00 427.016.0799 R2063  magneto
150  92.75.00.73 264.004.0799 I9020  flywheel nut
109  91.60.02.38 958.006.0143 G7274  woodruff key
192  00.00.00.00 793.008.0799 R2063/E  ign coil screw M5
193  00.00.00.00 772.001.0799 R2063/B  base plate M5↑, M4↓
194  00.00.00.00 713.009.0799 R2063/F  ignition coil
195  48.70.86.70 723.001.0799 G221/6  condenser
197  35.70.88.00 779.001.0799 G221/4  points
198  00.00.00.00 713.010.0799 R2063/C  lights coil
199  35.71.57.50 793.041.0799 G221/7  lights coil screw M4 x 25

 

 

1978 Benelli Turismo 50 with Benelli 4M engine
’70’s Moto Guzzi 50 TT with Benelli 4M
087  35.71.24.00 000.000.0799 00000  magneto
089  35.06.72.70 000.000.0799 00000  flywheel nut
083  91.60.02.38 958.006.0143 G7274  woodruff key
100  35.70.22.00 000.000.0799 00000  base plate
091  35.71.50.00 000.000.0799 00000  ignition coil
092  35.71.56.00 000.000.0799 00000  ign coil screw
093  35.70.86.00 723.002.0799 G26/2  condenser
095  35.70.88.00 779.001.0799 G221/4  points
096  35.71.51.00 000.000.0799 00000  lights coil
097  35.71.55.00 000.000.0799 00000  lights coil screw

 

1970-73? Gentleman with engine GM
070  00.00.00.00 427.022.0799  FA3774  magneto
067  00.00.00.00 264.025.0799  G7090  flywheel nut
073  91.60.02.38 958.006.0143  G7274  woodruff key
152  00.00.00.00 772.007.0799  000000 base plate
160  69.70.88.00 779.002.0799  CS0004 points
159  00.00.00.00 713.008.0799  000000 ignition coil
158  00.00.00.00 713.005.0799  N14/C    lights coil
154  00.00.00.00 723.003.0799  000000  condenser

 

Gentleman 2 with engine G2
070  48.71.24.72 000.000.0799  000000 magneto
067  48.71.95.70 000.000.0799  UI7090 flywheel nut
073  91.60.02.38 958.006.0143  G7274    woodruff key
152  69.70.22.07 000.000.0799  000000 base plate
160  69.70.88.00 779.002.0799  CS0004 points
159  48.71.50.71 000.000.0799  000000 ignition coil
158  48.71.51.71 000.000.0799  000000 lights coil
154  35.70.86.00 723.001.0.799 G221/6 condenser

 

 

Gentleman 1974 with engine G2
070  69.71.24.15 000.000.0799  0000000  magneto
067  92.75.00.73 000.000.0799  0000000  flywheel nut
073  91.60.02.38 000.000.0799  0000000  woodruff key
152  69.70.22.01 000.000.0799  0000000  base plate
160  69.70.88.07 000.000.0799  0000000  points
159  71.71.50.00 000.000.0799  0000000  ignition coil
158  48.71.51.70 000.000.0799  0000000  lights coil
154  48.70.86.70 000.000.0799  0000000  condenser

 

Moto Guzzi Chiu with engine G2
fig#  Benelli# 00 Benelli# 00000 Dansi#
009  48.71.24.70 000.000.0799  00 00 00  magneto
009  92.75.00.93 000.000.0799  00 00 00  flywheel nut
012  91.60.02.38 000.000.0799  00 00 00  woodruff key
000  00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  00 00 00  base plate
015  48.70.95.70 000.000.0799  40 39 92  felt greaser
016  48.70.86.70 000.000.0799  40 39 66  condenser
017  48 70 88 70 000.000.0799  40 88 00  points
018  48 71 50 70 000.000.0799  40 49 61  spark coil
019  48.71.51.70 000.000.0799  40 29 86  lights coil
020  48.71.57.70 000.000.0799  00 00 00  screw set

 

Euro model with engine
000  00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  0000000  magneto
000  00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  0000000  flywheel nut
000  00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  0000000  woodruff key
000  00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  0000000  base plate
000  00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  0000000  points
000  00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  0000000  ignition coil
000  00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  0000000  lights coil
000  00.00.00.00 000.000.0799  0000000  condenser

 

8. EU models with various engines

 


MDL102   ∅82 x 110? aluminum rotor, ∅80 2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, type 1, different coils, curvy

$29.0 points xxx 01.3239
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 

 


ADL8  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, machined, type 2

$29.0 points xxx 01.3239
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 


ADL250B  ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, puller M19-1, type 4

60’s-70’s models
$29.0 points xxx 01.3239
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 


ADL2S ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, puller M19-1, type 2

1960’s models
$29.0 points xxx 01.3239
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D

 


ADL60 ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇒rotation Destra, puller M19-1, type 2

early 60’s models
$18.0 points 01.3235 = SD5/B
$15.0 condenser 07.0074 = M17D = 1984/F

 


ASL111 ∅82 x 110 aluminum rotor, ∅94 3+2 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, M19-1 puller, type 5

1968 Beta Camoscio
$19.0 points 01.3240
$15.0 condenser 07.0074

 


Dn60A ∅82? x 110? aluminum rotor, ∅94? 3 slot stator
⇐rotation Sinistra, 20mm condenser (19.8 hole)

1950’s MV Agusta

 

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