CEV Tail Lights

Contents:
1. CEV 9350 Tail Lights
2. CEV 9350 Replicas
3. CEV 9350 Parts
4. CEV 9400-9417 Tail Lights
5. CEV 9400-9417 Replicas
6. CEV 9400-9417 Parts

 

 


1. CEV 9350 Tail Lights

CEV 9350: Many 1972 -1976 US mopeds, and some Italian scooters and motorcycles, had this “oval with flat sides” single bulb lamp. It meets 1972 US DOT requirements of having a brake light and shining to the sides. Original USA 9350 versions also had red lenses with side reflectors. Rear red side reflectors were required, but they did not have to be part of the light. 


#   MMI#    price    9 3 5 0   L A M P S
1.  9350CR none  9350 chrome  new, CEV lens new with side reflectors
2.  9350CR none  9350 chrome used, CEV lens new,  no side reflectors

3.  9350B   none  9350 black     new, CEV lens new with side reflectors
3.  9350B   $110  9350 black     new, generic lens, with side reflectors

 


2. CEV 9350 Replica Tail Lights


#   MMI#    price    9 3 5 0   R E P L I C A   L A M P S
25  SIM 78  $70.0 SIM 78 black new, SIM lens new with side reflectors

Sim 78 looks good in photos but it has several issues.
1. It does not have the wire connectors.
2. The connectors have to be bent and placed just right, to clear the back wall.
3. The act of adding and bending the connectors loosens the rivets.
4. The center rivet may need a thin tiny washer slid under it, to make it solid.
5. The lower tail light bulb is a special kind, a festoon. There are no 6 volt versions that can fit. There is only a 12V 5w 11 x 39mm. So on a 6 volt moped the running light will be only about half as bright.
6. The upper brake light bulb fits tight, almost to the point of the bulb breaking when removing or installing.
7. The ground wire inside eyelet gets bent when the mount screw is tightened. It is relocated to the outside.

 


3. CEV 9350 Parts

# 0 CEV# 0 price    9 3 5 0   P A R T S
7.0 10630.4 $2.00 bulb 6V 21/5W #1154
7.1 10630.1 $2.50 bulb 6V 15/3w    
7.3 10630.3 none  bulb 6V 18/3w

7.5 10630.5 $1.20 bulb 12V 21/5W #1157
7.6 10630.6 SIM lower bulb 12V 15W 15×44 festoon
7.7 10630.7 $2.00 SIM upper bulb 6V 5W

8.1 19955.0 $17.0 1. mount with no license bracket
8.1 19955.0 $10.0 1. mount with no license bracket, used
8.2 16590.0 $34.0 2. mount with license bracket
8.2 16590 .0$20.0 2. mount with license bracket, used
8.3 02748 .0$75.0 3. long high mount with license bracket, used,
8.3 02748 .0$00.0 weakened, needs reinforcement like most

9.0   03211 0 none  left: red lens with reflectors, says CEV 174
9.2   03211.2 none  mid: red lens, no reflectors, says CEV 174
9.3   03211.3 none  right: red lens with side reflectors, generic
9.3 03211.3 $00.0 fits tight on mirror, requires mirror edge filing
10.0 22253.0 $1.90 lens screw M4 x 72 phillips
10.2 22253.2 $2.00 lens screw long bolt-thru with nut
10.2 22253.2 $0.00 for when the housing screw post is broken
11.0 00000.0 $1.00 M6 x 20 hex bolt
12.0 00000.0 $0.25 M6 lock washer

13.0 03212.0 $95.0 CEV 9350 housing chrome
13.2 03212.2 $90.0 left: CEV 9350 housing black
13.2 03212.2 $85.0 left: CEV 9350 housing black, good-used
13.3 03212.3 $15.0 right: SIM 78 housing, no bulbs or wires, see below
13.3 03212.3 $00.0 requires modification and a special bulb
15.1 19606.0 $4.00 rubber gasket

 


4. CEV 9400-9417 Tail Lights

CEV 9400 and 9401 rectangular shaped rear lamps came out in 1977 on Italian mopeds. 9400 has two single filament bulbs. 9401 has one double filament bulb with a larger glass. 9401 had problems and was replaced by 9400 in 1978-79.

CEV 9417 rectangular shaped rear lamps came out in 1978 on Puch mopeds. They are mounted higher on the fender, so the mount surface is at a different angle. If a 9417 replaces a 9400 or 9401, it angles downward. To correct this new holes can be made higher up on the fender. The old holes can be hidden by the license plate mounted below the light.

 


1. 9400 and 9401 are solid mount, M6 stud and a plastic post.
1. 9417 is either solid or flexible mount, M6 stud and M6 bolt.
2. Left 9417, and right 9401 on Tomos

 

CEV 9400, 9401, 9417: The top brake light bulb is a low wattage type with a small glass 6V 10w. The bottom tail light bulb is 6V 5w. There is no ignition ground resistor.

CEV 9400.1, 9401.1, 9417.1: These are the same except for the bulb holder and upper bulb. The bulb holder is made for a “large glass” brake light bulb. This can be for a brighter brake light on battery powered motorcycles. Or it can be for many US model mopeds with a special “external ignition ground” that powers the brake light. On those the brake light bulb needs to be 6V 21W in order to have good spark with the brakes on. 

 
fig  price   CEV#
1. $99.0 9400    black 6V
2. $84.0 9400    grey  6V Piaggio 185026
3. none   9401    black 6V use 9400
4. 9565 9417    black 6V on ’78-86 Puch
4. 95659417    black 12V on ’86-10 Tomos

1. none  9400.1 black 6V use 9400.2
3. none   9401.1 black 6V use 9400.2
4. none   9417.1 black 6V use 9417.2

CEV 9400.2, 9401.2, 9417.2: To solve the problem of loosing spark if the brake light burned out, CEV made versions special for USA mopeds, with a power resistor hidden inside. If the brake light burned out, the resistor would allow the engine to stay running. In ’78-79 the 9400.2, 9401.2 and 9417.2 superseded the 9400.1, 9401.1, and 9417.1.

 
fig  price   CEV#  with ignition ground resistor
1. $109  9400.2 black 6V on ’80-83 Grande
2. $89.0 9400.2 grey  6V Piaggio 185028
3. none  9401.2 black 6V use 9400.2
on Garelli ’77-78 and some ’79-83, on Tomos ’77 and some ’78
4. 95-65 9417.2 black 6V 
on Tomos ’79-85 and some ’78, on Garelli ’84-86 and some ’79-83

 


5. CEV 9417 Replica Tail Lights


fig  price   part#     wire colors: ground, brake, tail.
1. none  222639-R  red sides, 1-bulb  12V 10/5w
2. none  222639-O orange sides, 1-b. 12V 10/5w

These lamps look exactly like the original CEV 9417 on the outside. But inside the bulb holder-mirror is different. It is a single bulb type that cannot be swapped for an original 2-bulb type. In the USA, in motorcycle parts stores, the single dual filament bulb has limited choices in volts and watts. There is just 12V 21/5W #1157 or 6V 21/5W #1154. 

Because of the bulb availability, this lamp with a 6V 21/5W #1154 bulb is a good substitute for 9417.1 or 9417.2, without any resistor. But it is not a good substitute for 9417 because 6V 10/5W or 12V 10/5W dual filament bulbs are unavailable in USA auto parts stores. 

The three male blade connecters have a tiny barb on top. The barb can be depressed with a tiny screwdriver. That allows the connectors to be removed. Then the original lens and/or bulb holder can be transferred onto it. But modification is required. More to follow…

 


fig  price   part#     wire colors: ground, brake, tail.
1. $00.0 222639-2  red sides, 2-bulbs  12V 10w 12V 5w

This lamp also looks exactly like the original CEV 9417. Inside it has a 2 bulb holder-mirror. The bulbs can be 6 or 12 volt, and 5 or 10 watt. A 1970’s bike needs 6V, but a 1990’s or later needs 12 volt bulbs. 

This entire lamp is a good substitute for CEV 9417.

Many 1970’s US-model bikes had a “secret” ignition ground resistor hidden inside this light. It allowed the bike to run even when the brake light was missing or burned out. This new light cannot hold a resistor, but one can be added to the ignition ground wire above the engine. The resistor is listed below.

 


6. CEV 9400-9417 Parts

 

# 0 CEV# 0 price    9 4 0 0 – 9 4 1 7    P A R T S 
1   Cwedge  $7.00 wedge with hole
2   025253  $1.00 hex bolt M6x20
3   031925  $0.20 plain washer M6
4   031845  $0.20 lock washer M6 substitute
5   031075  $0.50 hex nut M6
6   10628.2 $2.00 bulb 6V 5W small glass
7   10628.3 $2.00 bulb 6V 10W small glass
7   10629.2 $2.00 bulb 6V 15W large glass 9401
8   04816    $28.0 red lens with clear bottom, original
8    04818   $0.00 says CEV 210, with side reflectors
8   213452  $22.0 red lens with red sides, replica
8   213452  $15.0 red lens with orange sides, replica
9   18596    $1.00 9400 lens screw ST#6 x 1.5″ 38mm
9   18596    $0.00 original for when the post is normal

9   18596.1 $1.00 9400 long screw ST#6 x 1.7″ 44mm

9   18596.2 $1.00 9400 long screw ST#6 x 2.0″ 51mm
9   18596.2 $0.00 for when part of the post breaks off
9   18596.3 $2.00 9400 long screw #6-32 x 2.36″ 60mm
9   18596.3 $0.00 for when all of the post breaks off


10    04818    $8.00 housing 19314 left, small brake bulb
10.1 04818.1 $15.0 housing 19477 right, large brake bulb
10.2 04818.2 $22.0 housing 19314, small bb. with resistor
11    04814    $70.0 tail lamp body for 9400, says 19317
11    04815    $70.0 tail lamp body for 9401, says 19318
11    04927    $65.0 tail lamp body for 9417, says 19845


12    19609   $8.00 fender mount rubber for 9400, 9401
12    19609  $0.00  for less-curved more-flat fenders


14    19626 x0$6 resistor 3.9 Ω 10W, original is 4Ω
14    19626.1  $4 resistor 6.2 Ω 10W, for brighter BL
15    00000    N/A mount bolt for 9401 M6x40 all-thread

Flexible Mount Parts, like on ’78-11 Tomos
19  219866 $6.00 distance tube 6 x 9 x 5.5
20  219866 $6.00 lower tube 6 x 9 x 5.5
21  219946 $5.00 vibration rubber 8 x 12
22  031926 $0.30 plain washer M8
23  031925 $0.30 plain washer M6
24  219869 $7.00 shoulder nut M6 11 hex