Tires and Tubes

September 9, 2012

Welcome. Myrons Mopeds Tire Department is unique in that it covers the overlap region between bicycle tires and motorcycle tires. The widest bicycle tires can fit some motorcycles, and the thinnest motorcycle tires can fit some bicycles. But the meaning of “size” is not the same. Bicycle tires use the outer tire diameter to mean the size, while motorcycle tires use the inner tire diameter to mean the size. So a 16″ bicycle tire fits completely inside a 16″ motorcycle tire. See below.

To clear up the confusion of multiple meanings of “tire size”, this Tire Department groups the tires by rim size. Tires within a rim size group can fit the same rim. For any rim width, there is a range of tire widths that are appropriate. Going outside that range, like putting a very wide tire on a thin rim, is unsafe because the tire flexes sideways easier, causing less “control”, and also comes off the rim easier when deflated, causing complete loss of control and crashing. So just because a tire can be installed on a rim, does not mean it should be. Read more about tires below.

For each rim size, tubes are listed first, then tires, each with a photo. “Scooter” rims below 14″ are excluded.

 14 inch rim (356mm) ===============================================================

370142  tube 2.25/2.50 – 14                $10  wt. 10 oz = 0.63 lb   

14-1 tire 2.25-14
Kenda K261
VL141-801410
classic street $30
weight 3.19 lb

14-4 tire 2.75-14 Shinko SR241 WP122-874440 classic trail $45

14-4  2.75-14
Shinko SR241
WP162-874440
classic trail $45
weight 4.9 lb

This 1981 Honda NC50 Express has 14" rims. Tires say "2.25 - 14"

This 1981 Honda NC50
Express has 14″ rims.
Tires say “2.25 – 14”

Fourteen inch rims are pretty much only on mopeds and kid’s off road bikes. Bicycles have rims 12 (16 tire), 16 (20 tire), 18 (22 tire), 20 (24 tire), 22 (26 tire), 24 (28 tire) inch, and many others, but not 14. Instead the 18″ bicycle tire fits a 13.2 inch rim, not 14.0.

 

 

 

 

 

15 inch rim (381mm) ===============================================================

15-1 tire 2.50-15 Shinko SR241 WP122-874452 classic trail $40 special order item

15-1 tire 2.50-15
Shinko SR241
WP122-874452
classic trail $45
special order

This 1973 Yamaha GT1 80cc has 15" rims, with "2.50 - 15" trail tires.

This 1973 Yamaha GT1
(80cc) has 15″ rims, with
“2.50 – 15” trail tires.

Wide tires for 15 inch rims are common on modern street motorcycles, like “130/90 -15” (5 inch wide) to “170/80 – 15” (6 1/2 inch wide), but thin 15’s are uncommon. Size “2.50 – 15” (2 1/2 inch wide) is pretty much only found on 1970’s small trail bikes by Yamaha, Kawasaki, and others.  No bicycles have that 381mm rim size. So there’s only this one choice. 

 

 

 

 

 

16 inch rim (406mm) ===============================================================

870142  tube 2.00/2.25 – 16                  $8    wt 11 oz = 0.69 lb

370162  tube 2.25/2.50 – 16                $10    wt 12 oz = 0.75 lb

370163  tube 2.75/3.00 – 16                $12    wt 13 oz = 0.81 lb

370164  tube 3.25/3.50 – 16                $12    wt 17 oz = 1.06 lb

 

16-2 tire 2.00- 16 Vee Rubber VRM087 available from treatland.tv

16-2 tire 2.00- 16
Vee Rubber VRM087
available only from
treatland.tv
see link below

3 tire 2.25-16 Shinko SR714

16-3 tire 2.25-16
Shinko SR714
WP191-874550
modern street   $25
weight 3.63 lb

2.25-16 Kenda K260

16-5 tire 2.25-16
Kenda K260
JB122-59752
classic street $30
weight 4.13 lb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This 1980 Tomos Bullet has 16" rims. Tires say "2.25 - 16"

This 1980 Tomos Bullet has 16″ rims. ’70’s tires said “20×2.25″ and also said “2.25 – 16″

 

treatland.tv/vee-rubber-vrm087-moped-tire-16-x-2-00-p/vee-rubber-vrm087-2.00-16.htm

Tires for sixteen inch rims are on about 1/3 of all USA mopeds, while 17″ is the other 2/3. Almost all Italian mopeds use 16″ rims, with mostly 2.25 – 16 (20.5″ OD) tires. Juvenile and BMX bicycles all use 16 inch rims, but they are called 20″ in the bicycle industry. Yes, 20 x 2.125 bicycle tires interchange with 2.25 – 16 motorcycle tires, because they both use 406mm rims. Motorcycle tires for on-road use have to meet US DOT standards, and have many things labeled on the tire. Bicycle tires have different safety standards, and are not legal and not safe to use on on-road motorcycles.  

 

5 tire 2.50-16 Sava MC2

16-10 tire 2.50-16
Sava MC2
GI162-600500
modern  $40
weight 4.31 lb

6 tire 2.50-16 Pirelli ML75

16-11 tire 2.50-16
Pirelli ML75
WP163-8715062
modern street $60
weight 4.06 lb

7 tire 2.50-16 Bridgestone TW9

16-12 tire 2.50-16
Bridgestone TW9
TR164-300726
modern trail $60
weight 3.50 lb

8 tire 2.50-16 Vee Rubber VRM021

16-13 tire 2.50-16
Vee Rubber 219
VL152-815113
classic trail $50
weight 4.25 lb

9 tire 2.75-16 knobby

16-15  2.75-16
Yokohama
DI151-029828
off road     $25

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 tire 2.75-16 Sava MC2

16-16 tire 2.75-16
Sava MC2
TO282-231355
modern $45
weight 5.13 lb

11 tire 2.75-16 Pirelli ML75

16-17 tire 2.75-16
Pirelli ML75
WP114-8715063
modern  $60
weight 4.25 lb

16-13 tire 3.00-16 Shinko SR244 WP1152-874401 modern trail $45

16-20 tire 3.00-16
Shinko SR244
WP1132-874401
modern trail $40
weight 6.31 lb

80-80 - 16 Shinko SR741

16-21 tire 80/80-16
3.2″ wide=3.00-16
Shinko SR714
WP1113-874430
modern street $45
weight 5.9 lb

90-80 - 16 Shinko SR741

16-22 tire 90/80-16
3.5″ wide=3.25-16
Shinko SR714
WP1123-874431
modern street $50
weight 6.5 lb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Sava 3.25-16 is 3.6″ total width. It is the back tire on Tomos Streetmate and Revival mopeds. The Shinko 90/80-16 replaces it, but has a lower profile, which lowers the back of the bike a little, and lowers the gearing slightly.

The Sava 2.50-17 is 2.7″ total width. So some tires are wider than the size says, because there is a shoulder where the tread goes wider than the sidewall.

17 inch rim (432mm) ===============================================================

370171  tube 2.00/2.25 – 17                $10    wt 13 oz = 0.81 lb

370172  tube 2.25/2.50 – 17                $10    wt 13.5  = 0.84 lb

370174  tube 2.75/3.00 – 17                $12    wt 17 oz = 1.06 lb  

17-1 tire 2.00-17 IRC NR58 maXing AZ151-327031 classic street $25 weight 2.90 lb 110mph S-rated

17-1 tire 2.00-17
IRC NR58 maXing
available only at
treatland.tv
see link below

14 2.25-17 Kenda K261

17-2 tire 2.25-17
Kenda K260
VL171-801220
classic street  $25
weight 4.00 lb

17-3 tire 2.25-17 Cheng Shin C109 TR611-6800?? classic street $35

17-3 tire 2.25-17
Cheng Shin C109
TR011-680025 
classic street  $30
weight 2.63 lb

This 1969 Puch Maxi has 17" rims. Original tires said "21 x 2.0"

This 1969 Puch Maxi
has 17″ rims. Original
’60’s tires said “21 x 2.0”
’70’s also said “2.00 -17”
Notice 17 = 21 – 2*2.0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.treatland.tv/IRC-NR58-moped-tire-p/irc-nr58-17×2-tire.htm

15 tire 2.25-17 IRC NR21

17-5 tire 2.25-17 IRC NR21
TR161-321171
center ridge  $25
weight 2.63 lb

16 tire 2.25-17 Shinko SR704

17-6 tire 2.25-17
Shinko SR704
WP161-874540
classic street  $25
weight 3.25 lb

18 tire 2.25-17 Michelin M62

17-8 tire 2.25-17
Michelin M62
WP122-879388
heavy duty $40
weight 4.50 lb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

20 tire 2.50-17 Michelin M62

17-11    2.50-17
Michelin M62
WP132-879389
heavy duty $40
weight 4.75 lb

22 tire 2.50-17 Vee Rubber VRM021

17-13 tire 2.50-17
Vee Rubber 021
VL182-815115
classic trail $40
weight 4.44 lb

17-15 tire 2.50-17 Shinko SR244 modern trail $40

17-14 tire 2.50-17
Shinko SR244
WP112-874402
modern trail $40
weight 4.88 lb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

17-15 tire 2.50-17 Shinko SR241 WP142-874442 classic trail $40

17-15 tire 2.50-17
Shinko SR241
WP112-874442
classic trail $40
weight 4.81 lb

17-xx tire 2.75-17 Michelin M62 WP171-879380 heavy duty $35

17-20 tire 2.75-17
Michelin M62
WP122-879380
heavy duty $45
weight 5.69 lb

23 tire 2.75-17 IRC TR1

17-21 tire 2.75-17
IRC TR1 Trial
TR182-322173
classic trail  $50
weight 5.06 lb

24 tire 2.75-17 IRC NR21

17-22   2.75-17
IRC NR21
TR113-321173
street tire $55
weight 4.81 lb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

18 inch rim (456mm) ===============================================================

370183  tube 2.25/2.50 – 18           $10   wt. 15 oz = 0.94 lb           

This 1962 Motobecane AV48 had 19" or 18" rims, with "23 x 2.0" or "22-1/2 x 2-1/4" Hutchinson tires. Notice 19 = 23 - 2*2 and 18 = 22.5-2*2.25

This 1962 Motobecane
AV48 had 19″ or 18″
rims, with “23 x 2.0” or
“22-1/2 x 2-1/4” tires.
Notice 19 = 23 – 2*2
and 18 = 22.5-2*2.25

This '69 Tomos Colibri 14V had 18" rims, with "23 x 2.5" tires. Notice 18 = 23 - 2*2.5

This 1969 Tomos Colibri
14V has 18″ rims,
with “23 x 2.5” tires.
Notice 18 = 23 – 2*2.5
Pre-1969  had 19″ rims,
with “23 x 2.25” tires.

22 x 1.75 bicycle tire on a 1965 Harley Davidson M50

22 x 1.75 bicycle tire on a 1967 Harley Davidson M65

Some 1960’s tires were labeled narrower than modern tires. The Harley Davidson M65 original tires said 22 x 1 3/4 (1.75 – 18), but they were actually 2.00 or 2.25 in width. You can see the restored M65 rear tire is thinner than the rim. Yet in old photos the tires are wider than the rims.

The 2.25-18 motorcycle tire is a better choice. For 2.25-18 tires, see treatland.tv.

 

 

18-1 tire 2.50-18 Kenda K203 JB103-59753 ribbed $50

18-4 tire 2.50-18
Kenda K203
JB142-59753
rib     $45
weight 4.59 lb

32 tire 2.50-18 IRC NR2

18-5 tire 2.50-18
IRC NR2
TR122-321183
classic     $40
weight 4.6 lb

30 tire 2.75-18 Michelin M62

18-8 tire 2.75-18
Michelin M62
WP122-879382
heavy duty $45
weight 5.75 lb

After about 1969, motorcycle tires no longer used the bicycle system. From then on, “22 x 2.0” meant bicycle 18 inch rim, and “2.0 – 18” meant motorcycle 18 inch rim. Bicycles were given the even numbered rim sizes 16, 20, 22 while motorcycles were given the odd numbered rim sizes 17, 19, 21, 23, pretty much. Bicycles were given the “outer times width” syntax “22 x 2.0”, while motorcycles given the “width dash rim” syntax “2.0 – 18”. The “x” and the “-” are not interchangeable. Also the order is not interchangeable. This was a new way to tell the difference between a bicycle tire and a motorcycle tire, just by the “tire size”.

 

 

17-24 tire 3.00-17 Michelin M62 WP152-879381 heavy duty $45 special order item

18-10 tire 3.00-18
Michelin M62
WP182-879383
heavy duty $55
special order item

18-13 tire 3.00-18 Shinko SR241 WP153-874454 classic trail $55 special order item

18-11  3.00-18
Shinko SR241
WP153-874454
classic trail $55
spec. order item

18-14 tire 3.00-18 Shinko SR244 WP153-874406 modern trail $50 special order item

18-12  3.00-18
Shinko SR244
WP153-874406
modern trail $50
spec. order item

18-14 tire 3.00-18 IRC NR21 TR173-321184 street tire $60

18-13 tire 3.00-18
IRC NR21
TR173-321184
street tire $60
spec. order item

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

19 inch rim (484mm) ===============================================================

19-5 tire 2.75-19 Shinko SR244 WP192-874411 modern trail $45

19-5  2.75-19
Shinko SR244
WP192-874411
mod. trail $45
spec. order item

19-4 tire 2.75-19 Shinko SR241 WP103-874446 classic trail $50 special order item

19-4  2.75-19
Shinko SR241
WP103-874446
classic trail $50
spec. order item

370192  tube 2.25/2.50 – 19                $12 wt. 15oz = 0.94 lb

 

For 2.25-19 tires see treatland.tvFor Solex front (friction drive) tires, 1.75-19, that need to be smooth and flat on top, see http://www.treatland.tv/hutchinson-21B-moped-tire-p/hutchinson-21b-19×1.75-tire.htm or http://velosolexpartsforsale.over-blog.com/. Many vintage motorized bicycles had 19 inch rims, with (now obsolete) bicycle tires size 23 x 2.0 (equal to 2.0 – 19 or french 550 x 50B). By the 1970’s, tires were smaller and wider, 16 and 17 inch. Of the US model mopeds, only the Solex had 19″ rims. 19 inch tires thinner than 2.75 are not sold by normal USA motorcycle or bicycle tire suppliers. The thinnest “metric street” tire available is 80/90 – 19, which is about 2.75 – 19.

 

 

This 1956 Sparta FP50 has 19" rims, with "23 x 2.0" tires

This 1956 Sparta
FP50 has 19″ rims,
with “23 x 2.0” tires

This '59 Wards Riverside (MB AV88) has 19" rims. Originals said "23 x 2.0"

This ’59 Wards Riverside (MB AV88) has 19″ rims.
Originals said “23 x 2.0”

This '63 Sears Allstate has 19" rims. Original tires said "23 x 2.25"

This 1963 Sears Allstate
has 19″ rims. Original
tires said “23 x 2.25”

This '62 Tomos Colibri T12 has 19" rims, with "23 x 2.25" tires.

This 1962 Tomos Colibri
T12 has 19″ rims,
with “23 x 2.25” tires.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

20 inch rim (507mm) ===============================================================

20-1 tire 2.12-20 Kenda 927 Sun JB101-60412 (24x2.125) $15 special order item

20-1 tire 2.12-20
K927  bicycle
JB190-60412
(24×2.125) $15
special order

This 1955 Sparta FP50 has 20" rims, with "24 x 2.0" tires

This 1955 Sparta
FP50 has 20″ rims,
with “24 x 2.0” tires

This 1952 Motobecane AV32 has 20" rims. Orig tires say "600x50B Michelin 24x1-1/2 x 2" Notice 20 = 24 - 2*2.0

This 1952 Motobecane
AV32 has 20″ rims.
Orig tires say “600x50B
Michelin 24×1-1/2 x 2″
Notice 20 = 24 – 2*2.0

Some vintage motorized bicycles had 20 inch rims, that accept bicycle size 24 x 2.125 “balloon” tires. For them, fat bicycle tires, for a mini beach cruiser, are an affordable option. Street classic tread all black is shown, but other choices exist. Whitewall 24 x 2.125 available also. Most bicycle shops carry 24×2.125 tires also. The ISO number on every bicycle tire is what tells the rim size. This tire says 57-507, which means 57mm wide (2.24″) and 507mm (20.0″) inner diameter.   

 

21 inch rim (534mm) ===============================================================

21-1 tire 2.75-21 Shinko SR241 WP173-874447 classic trail $50 special order item

21-1  2.75-21
Shinko SR241
WP173-874447
classic trail $55
spec. order item

21-2 tire 2.75-21 Shinko SR244 WP143-874412 modern trail $45

21-2  2.75-21
Shinko SR244
WP143-874412
mod. trail $55
spec. order item

This 1985 Derbi RD50 has a 21" front rim, with a "2.50 - 21" tire

This 1985 Derbi RD50
has a 21″ front rim,
with a “2.50 – 21” tire

Twenty one is a common front rim size on off road and street cruiser motorcycles. The thinnest street tire is 80/90-21, which equals 2.75-21. The thinnest off road commonly available is also 2.75 – 21. Vintage French bicycles had 21″ rims with “600B” or “24 x 1-1/2” tires, but not modern bicycles.

Any rim can be measured to determine the bead diameter, where the tire sits. One way is to wrap a cloth measuring tape around the tire-less rim to measure the circumference, then divide by 3.14. See Sheldon Brown Rim Measuring for more details.  

 

22 inch rim (559mm) ===============================================================

22-1 tire 2.12-22 C121 bicycle JB101-60720 (26x2.125) $15 special order item

22-1 tire 2.12-22
CST C121 bicycle
JB111-60720
(26×2.125) $20
special order item

This 1955 Lambretta moped has 22" rims, 26x2.125 bicycle tires

This 1955 Lambretta
has 22″ rims that take
26×2.125 bicycle tires.
Originals said “22×2.0”
Notice 22 = 26 – 2*2.0

Some vintage motorized bicycles had 22 inch rims, that accept bicycle size 26 x 2.125 “balloon” tires. For them, wide bicycle tires, for a beach cruiser or mountain bike, are an affordable option. Street classic tread all black is shown, but other choices exist. Whitewall 26 x 2.125 available also. Most bicycle shops carry 26×2.125 tires also. The ISO number on every bicycle tire is what tells the rim size. This tire says 57-559, which means 57mm wide (2.24″) and 559mm (22.0″) inner diameter. For more about tire sizes see Sheldon Brown Tyre Sizing. Bicycle tires are intended for low speed and low weight. They have no motor vehicle safety endorsements, like “street-legal” or “DOT” tires do. They are listed here to show what all the choices are. But they are not recomended for use on motor vehicles. 

 

23 inch rim (584mm) ===============================================================

23-1 tire 2.10-23 CST 1435A bicycle JB151-59810 $25 special order item

23-1  2.10-23
C1435A bicycle
JB111-59810
(27.5 x 2.1) $20
spec. order item

This 1954 Mercier has 23" rims, 650B tires.

This 1954 Mercier has
23″ rims with 650B tires.
650 is the outer diameter.
B is the width, 33mm.
Note 584 = 650 – 2*33

This 1949 Solex has 23" rims with "650B" or "26 x 1-1/2" tires. Notice 23 = 26 - 2*1.5

This 1949 Solex has
23″ rims with “650B”
or “26 x 1-1/2” tires.
Notice 23 = 26 – 2*1.5

Twenty three inch rims are on antique motorcycles, and on some off road front, and also some on road front customs for novelty. Modern downhill mountain bike racers use 23 inch rims, called “27.5 x 2.0”. 1950’s French bicycles use 23″ rims, called “650B” or “26 x 1-1/2”. Some modern commuter bikes also use 650B tires (584mm rim), in-between a mountain bike 26″ (559mm) and road bike 700C (622mm).  Antique motorcycles from the 1910’s, 20’s, 30’s use the bicycle system, where the tire size means the outer diameter. So, at least some 28 x 2.5 tires correspond to 2.50 – 23, but maybe not all. A 28 x 2.5 or 28 x 3.0 antique replica tire costs around $200 and up from Coker Tire. Measure the rim diameter precisely to determine the rim size, on any vintage, antique, or unknown motorcycle. A 23-inch-rim tire costs ten times as much as a 22-inch-rim tire!

24 inch rim (610mm) ===============================================================

For some reason, there are no bicycles or motorcycles, except for some antique ones possibly, with 24″ rims. If there were any antique motorcycles with “28 x 2.0” or “29 x 2.5″ tires, they likely had 24” rims. Most early motorcycle tires were “28 x 2.5″, assumed to be a 23” rim, or “28 x 3.0″, assumed to be a 22” rim. 

25 inch rim (635mm) ===============================================================

This 1940 Solex has 25" rims, with "700B" or "28 x 1-1/2" tires. Notice 28 = 25 - 2*1.5

This 1940 Solex has
25″ rims, with “700B”
or “28 x 1-1/2” tires.
Notice 25 = 28 – 2*1.5

Twenty five inch rims are not on any motorcycle. They are on older traditional bicycles, still common “work horse” bicycles in Europe and Asia, today. In less developed places in the world, the 28 x 1-1/2 tires, rod brake (not cables), always black, classics out number all other vehicles. The “700B” French size tire had a height of 32 or 33mm, to make an outer diameter of 700mm.

 

As you go back in time, tires were bigger and thinner, just like with automobiles.

 

Moped Tire Sizes – Dual Meaning of “Size”

A bicycle 16 inch tire fits inside a motorcycle 16 inch tire.

A bicycle 16″ tire fits inside a motorcycle 16″ tire.

The “size” of the tire has a different meaning for bicycles, than for motorcycles and cars. For bicycles, the tire size means the outer diameter of the tire. For motorcycles and cars, the tire size means the inner diameter of the tire. So a 20 x 2.125 (OD=20.1 ID=16.0) bicycle tire fits a 16″ moped rim. Conversely, a 16 x 2.25 (OD=20.2 ID=16.0) motorcycle tire fits a 20″ bicycle rim.

 

 

Rim size is at bead seat.

Rim size is at bead seat.

You can measure any rim with a tape measure, and determine the tire size. Try to measure the rim diameter at the “porch”, where the tire sits, not the “lip” at the very edge. A 16″ rim will have a total diameter of 16.6″. So don’t count the lip.  This method settles the confusion of whether a marking or specification is using the bicycle (tire OD) or motorcycle (tire ID) system. Older mopeds often have 2.25-18 (22 x 2.25) and 2.25-19 (23 x 2.25) tires. They used the bicycle system. Modern moped-size (thin) tires, since the 1970’s, all use the motorcycle system, in the USA. Some modern electric scooters have an oddball size, 16 x 3.00. It’s a bicycle size, because a 16 x 2.25 bicycle tire fits, but wider. It’s a solid aluminum disk rear wheel, and so the inner tube valve stem must be the 90 degree type. The rim diameter at the “porch” is about 12″. A motorcycle inner tube size 3.00-12 fits perfect, but they are only available with straight valve stems. Tires and tubes for those must be purchased from the dealer or distributor of those electric scooters.

 


Tire Shipping Costs and Choices (within USA)

February 4, 2011

Tires cost more to ship than other things of the same weight, because of their size. They are too big to fit into any Flat Rate boxes, so the shipping cost depends on the destination, size of the box, and the weight.

Myrons Mopeds uses United States Postal Service (USPS) for most tire parcels, and all small to medium size parcels. As long as the parcel is not too big or heavy, USPS is slightly better than UPS or Fedex, in our view. For sure USPS is better for residential delivery and remote areas (because they go there anyway), where the others charge a “fuel surcharge” and a “residential delivery surcharge”. For orders of 3 or more tires, or with more weight, UPS shipping is preferable, and available. For orders of 1 or 2 tires, there is only USPS Priority Mail. For 1 or 2 tires to a far-away state, zones 5 to 9, there is also USPS Standard Post. Both USPS services have tracking. Priority Mail costs more but is faster, 2-days to most areas, has Saturday delivery, and has $50 insurance. Here is the USPS Priority Mail ship time map for shipments originating from Fullerton, CA 92833 (prefix 928).

Here are 24 examples, 3 tire parcels (a-small, b-medium, c-large) each sent to 8 zones:

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Zone 1 (Local) and Zone 2   zip code prefixes  900 – 935  southern California
 
1a+2a. One 2.25-17 tire and tube   (zone 1 or 2)   4 lb 22 x 22 x 3  USPS Priority    $7.35 + $5.00 = $12.35
 
1b+2b. Two 2.25-17 tires, 2 tubes  (zone 1 or 2)   8 lb 22 x 22 x 5  USPS Priority   $10.95 + $5.00 = $15.95
 
1c+2c. Two 3.00-18 tires, 2 tubes  (zone 1 or 2)   15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $19.60 + $5.00 = $24.60
 (25+6+25+6 = 62   62+25 = 86   86>84    so use 20 lb balloon wt) 
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Zone 3   936-938  central California, 889-893 southern Nevada, 864 northwest Arizona
 
3a. One 2.25-17 tire and tube           (zone 3)  Wt 4 lb 22 x 22 x 3  USPS Priority    $8.75 + $5.00 = $13.75
 
3b. Two 2.25-17 tires and 2 tubes     (zone 3)  Wt 8 lb 22 x 22 x 5  USPS Priority   $13.10 + $5.00 = $18.10
 
3c. Two 3.00-18 tires and 2 tubes     (zone 3)  Wt 15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $24.60+ $5.00 = $29.60
 (25+6+25+6 = 62   62+25 = 86   86>84    so use 20 lb balloon wt) 
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Zone 4   840-847 Utah, 850-863 Arizona, 894-898 northern Nevada, 939-966 northern California
 
4a. One 2.25-17 tire and tube           (zone 4)  Wt 4 lb 22 x 22 x 3  USPS Priority    $9.90 + $5.00 = $14.90
 
4b. Two 2.25-17 tires and 2 tubes     (zone 4)  Wt 8 lb 22 x 22 x 5  USPS Priority   $15.30 + $5.00 = $20.30
 
4c. Two 3.00-18 tires and 2 tubes     (zone 4)  Wt 15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $30.00 + $5.00 = $35.00
 (25+6+25+6 = 62   62+25 = 86   86>84    so use 20 lb balloon wt) 
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Zone 5   590-593 southern Montana, 597-599 western Montana, 679 southwest Kansas, 739 west Oklahoma, 790-794, west Texas, 797-799  west Texas, 800-816 Colorado, 820-831 Wyoming, 832-838 Idaho, 865 eastern Arizona, 870-884 New Mexico, 970-979 Oregon, 980-994 Washington  
 
5a. One 2.25-17 tire and tube         (to zone 5) Wt 4 lb 22 x 22 x 3  USPS Priority   $13.90 + $5.00 = $18.90
                                                                                            USPS Standard   $9.92 + $7.00 = $16.92
 
5b. Two 2.25-17 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 5) Wt 8 lb 22 x 22 x 5  USPS Priority   $21.25 + $5.00 = $26.25
                                                                                            USPS Standard $15.32 + $7.00 = $22.32
 
5c. Two 3.00-18 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 5) Wt 15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $36.20 + $5.00 = $41.20
(25*25*6=3750 3750/194*.785=15.2  16 lb dim wt) non-rectangular USPS Standard $26.07 + $7.00 = $33.07
 
5d. Two 3.00-18 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 5) Wt 15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $41.75 + $5.00 = $46.75
(25*25*6 = 3750   3750/194 = 19.3  use 20 lb dim wt)  rectangular  USPS Standard $30.02 + $7.00 = $37.02
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Zone 6   500-503 Iowa, 505 Iowa, 508-516 western Iowa, 525 Iowa, 565 western Minnesota, 570-577 South Dakota, 580-581 southeast North Dakota, 584-588 North Dakota, 594-596 northern Montana, 640-649 western Missouri, 654-658 southern Missouri, 660-678 Kansas, 680-693 Nebraska, 710-714 northern Louisiana, 718 east Arkansas, 726-727 northwest Arkansas, 729-738 Oklahoma, 740-749 Oklahoma, 750-789 east Texas, 795-796 Texas
 
6a. One 2.25-17 tire and tube         (to zone 6) Wt 4 lb 22 x 22 x 3  USPS Priority   $15.25 + $5.00 = $20.25
                                                                                            USPS Standard $11.07 + $7.00 = $18.07
 
6b. Two 2.25-17 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 6) Wt 8 lb 22 x 22 x 5  USPS Priority   $23.70 + $5.00 = $28.70
                                                                                            USPS Standard $17.02 + $7.00 = $24.02
 
6c. Two 3.00-18 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 6) Wt 15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $40.60 + $5.00 = $45.60
(25*25*6=3750 3750/194*.785=15.2  16 lb dim wt) non-rectangular USPS Standard $28.85 + $7.00 = $35.85
 
6d. Two 3.00-18 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 6) Wt 15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $48.10 + $5.00 = $53.10
(25*25*6 = 3750   3750/194 = 19.3  use 20 lb dim wt)  rectangular  USPS Standard $32.75 + $7.00 = $39.75
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Zone 7   324-325 western Florida, 350-359, 362 Alabama, 365-366 southern Alabama, 369-372 Tennessee, 375, 380-386 Tennessee, 390-397 Mississippi, 400-402 Kentucky, 420-424, 427 Kentucky, 460-466 Indiana, 469, 471-472, 474-479 Indiana, 498-499 Michigan, 504, 506-507 Iowa, 520-524 Wisconsin, 526-549 Wisconsin, 550-564 Minnesota, 566-567 Minnesota, 582-583 North Dakota, 600-620 Illinois, 622-629 Illinois, 630-639 Missouri, 650-653 Missouri, 700-708 Louisiana, 716-717 Arkansas, 719-725, 728 Arkansas, 999 southern Alaska
 
7a. One 2.25-17 tire and tube         (to zone 7) Wt 4 lb 22 x 22 x 3  USPS Priority   $16.30 + $5.00 = $21.30
                                                                                            USPS Standard $12.23 + $7.00 = $19.23
 
7b. Two 2.25-17 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 7) Wt 8 lb 22 x 22 x 5  USPS Priority   $26.05 + $5.00 = $31.05
                                                                                            USPS Standard $18.72 + $7.00 = $25.72
 
7c. Two 3.00-18 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 7) Wt 15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $43.75. + $5.00 = $48.75
(25*25*6=3750 3750/194*.785=15.2  16 lb dim wt) non-rectangular USPS Standard $31.62 + $7.00 = $38.62
 
7d. Two 3.00-18 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 7) Wt 15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $52.55 + $5.00 = $57.55
(25*25*6 = 3750   3750/194 = 19.3  use 20 lb dim wt)  rectangular  USPS Standard $35.48 + $7.00 = $42.48
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Zone 8  005-009 Puerto Rico and VI, 010-027 Massachusetts, 028-029 Rhode Island, 030-038 New Hampshire, 040-049 Maine, 050-059 Vermont, 060-069 Conneticutt, 070-089 New Jersey, 090-098 Military, 100-149 New York, 150-196 Pennsylvania, 197-199 Delaware, 200-205 DC, 206-219 Maryland, 220-246 Virginia, 247-268 West Virginia, 270-289 North Carolina, 290-299 South Carolina, 300-319 Georgia, 320-349 Florida, 350-361 Alabama, 363-364 Alabama, 367-368 Alabama, 373-379 Tennessee, 398-399 Georgia, 403-418 Kentucky, 425-426 Kentucky. 430-459 Ohio, 467-468 Indiana, 470,473 Indiana, 480-497 Michigan, 967-969 Hawaii, 995-998 Alaska
 
8a. One 2.25-17 tire and tube         (to zone 8) Wt 4 lb 22 x 22 x 3  USPS Priority   $18.15 + $5.00 = $23.15
                                                                                            USPS Standard $13.38 + $7.00 = $20.38
 
8b. Two 2.25-17 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 8) Wt 8 lb 22 x 22 x 5  USPS Priority   $29.85 + $5.00 = $34.85
                                                                                            USPS Standard $20.43 + $7.00 = $27.43
 
8c. Two 3.00-18 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 8) Wt 15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $50.30 + $5.00 = $55.30
(25*25*6=3750 3750/194*.785=15.2  16 lb dim wt) non-rectangular USPS Standard $34.40 + $7.00 = $41.40
 
8d. Two 3.00-18 tires and 2 tubes   (to zone 8) Wt 15lb 25 x 25 x 6  USPS Priority   $60.95 + $5.00 = $65.95
(25*25*6 = 3750   3750/194 = 19.3  use 20 lb dim wt)  rectangular  USPS Standard $38.21 + $7.00 = $45.21
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Zone 9    96939 – 96944, 96960, 96970  Guam
Same Standard Post prices as Zone 8, but Priority Mail prices are $5 or $10 higher. See table below. 
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Tire Parcel

2 tires 2.25-14 & parts, 8 lbs, 19x19x5″ to zone 7
Priority: $31 for rectangular (10lb), $26 for round.
Standard $21.53 for rect (10lb), $18.72 for round.
Non-rectangular large parcels cost less by USPS.

  From the above examples you can see, for sending two moped tires to a far away state (zones 5,6,7,8,9) it is better to not use a rectangular box, because it costs $5 or $10 more. Those rectangular box choices are shaded light grey, to show they are not advisable. Instead, by wrapping the tire(s) in stiff paper or plastic wrap, and using cardboard only on the sides, the parcel is the smallest and lightest possible, to stay below the size limit, and also qualifies for the reduced non-rectangular rate. Doing that uses a lot of tape and takes a lot of time, like 20 minutes, compared to a ready made box that takes maybe 5 minutes. But those thin tire boxes cost $3 or $4 each. Getting cheaper boxes (taller), saves there but then makes the shipping much more. It’s funny that with USPS a non-rectangular parcel costs less, but with UPS it costs more.

Postal Zones: The United States Postal Service (USPS) group the USA zip codes into nine zones. The zone where the mail originates is Zone 1, and the farthest or most remote zone is Zone 9. Zone 1 costs the least and Zone 9 costs the most. To see what zone you are in, relative Myrons Mopeds 92833 or just “928”, see USPS Postal Zone Chart, and enter “928” as the origin zip. Then find your zone from the chart of 3-digit zip codes.

USPS Prices: Once you know your postal zone, if your parcel is not too big, you can look up the price from the tables below (from Feb 2014 USPS Domestic Mail Manual (DMM) Notice 123 Price List ). On the right is the price table for Priority Mail, faster and with tracking. On the left is the price table for Parcel Post, slower but costs less. However, most moped tire parcels exceed the size limits for ordinary parcels, and are charged more for their large size. The tables below are for medium or ordinary size parcels, too big to fit in Flat Rate boxes, yet small enough to be charged by actual weight alone.

Total Shipping Cost: In addition to the USPS postage cost, each tire parcel has a $5 or $7 fee for handling and packaging, which is for making the “box” or “wrapper” and for taking it to the post office. Most things are taken (by moped) to the US Post Office (right across the street) that same day, usually hours after the phone call. Orders by phone and email are given USPS tracking numbers by email.   

Wt.     USPS Standard Post Prices – see notes          USPS Priority Mail Prices – see notes
not                                  
over zone zone zone zone zone zone zone zone   zone zone zone zone zone zone zone zone
(lbs) 1 & 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9   1 & 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
1 $5.60 $5.70 $5.85 $5.87 $6.16 $6.45 $6.73 $6.73 $5.60 $5.70 $5.85 $6.00 $6.20 $6.45 $6.95 $8.35
2 5.80 6.15 6.85 6.99 7.87 8.76 9.64 9.64 5.80 6.15 6.85 8.75 9.50 10.25 11.25 13.50
3 6.50 7.50 8.60 8.62 10.01 11.39 12.78 12.78 6.50 7.50 8.60 10.50 11.90 12.75 15.10 18.10
4 7.35 8.75 9.90 9.92 11.07 12.23 13.38 13.38   7.35 8.75 9.90 13.90 15.25 16.30 18.15 21.80
5 8.70 10.05 11.35 11.37 12.36 13.34 14.33 14.33   8.70 10.05 11.35 15.80 17.35 18.70 21.00 25.20
6 9.60 11.10 12.70 12.72 13.84 14.96 16.08 16.08 9.60 11.10 12.70 17.55 19.50 21.00 23.70 28.45
7 10.20 12.00 13.70 13.72 15.07 16.41 17.76 17.76 10.20 12.00 13.70 19.55 21.60 23.60 26.65 32.00
8 10.95 13.10 15.30 15.32 17.02 18.72 20.43 20.43   10.95 13.10 15.30 21.25 23.70 26.05 29.85 35.80
9 11.65 14.15 16.60 16.62 18.67 20.71 22.76 22.76 11.65 14.15 16.60 23.00 25.80 28.15 33.20 39.85
10 12.45 15.15 18.05 18.07 20.30 22.53 24.77 24.77 12.45 15.15 18.05 24.95 27.85 31.00 36.15 43.40
11 13.30 16.20 19.50 19.52 22.08 24.64 27.20 27.20 13.30 16.20 19.50 26.90 29.90 34.20 39.70 48.05
12 14.25 17.40 20.90 20.92 23.71 26.49 29.28 29.28 14.25 17.40 20.90 28.85 32.50 37.00 42.60 51.55
13 15.10 18.45 22.05 22.07 24.82 27.57 30.32 30.32 15.10 18.45 22.05 30.50 34.90 38.45 44.15 53.40
14 16.00 19.60 23.40 23.42 26.20 28.98 31.77 31.77 16.00 19.60 23.40 32.40 36.85 40.65 46.35 56.10
15 16.70 20.70 24.65 24.67 27.29 29.92 32.54 32.54 16.70 20.70 24.65 34.30 38.40 41.55 47.65 57.65
16 17.20 21.80 26.05 26.07 28.85 31.62 34.40 34.40   17.20 21.80 26.05 36.20 40.60 43.85 50.30 60.85
17 17.95 22.95 27.55 27.57 30.09 32.61 35.13 35.13 17.95 22.95 27.55 38.10 42.65 46.15 52.95 64.05
18 18.30 23.80 28.90 28.92 31.56 34.20 36.83 36.83 18.30 23.80 28.90 39.95 44.90 48.40 55.65 67.35
19 18.80 24.30 29.45 29.47 32.15 34.84 37.52 37.52 18.80 24.30 29.45 41.05 46.95 50.70 58.25 70.50
20 19.60 24.60 30.00 30.02 32.75 35.48 38.21 38.21   19.60 24.60 30.00 41.75 48.10 52.55 60.95 73.75
21 20.25 24.95 30.45 30.47 33.24 36.00 38.77 38.77 20.25 24.95 30.45 42.35 48.90 53.40 62.35 76.05
22 20.75 25.55 31.00 31.02 33.83 36.64 39.45 39.45 20.75 25.55 31.00 43.35 50.00 54.70 63.85 77.90
23 21.20 26.00 31.85 31.87 34.75 37.64 40.52 40.52 21.20 26.00 31.85 44.10 50.90 55.75 65.00 79.30
24 21.70 26.55 32.85 32.87 35.83 38.80 41.76 41.76 21.70 26.55 32.85 45.05 51.95 57.15 66.60 81.25
25 22.20 27.00 33.80 33.82 36.87 39.91 42.96 42.96 22.20 27.00 33.80 45.80 52.65 58.60 67.70 82.60
26 22.60 27.25 34.95 34.97 38.11 41.26 44.40 44.40 22.60 27.25 34.95 46.75 53.95 60.05 69.85 85.20
27 23.25 27.65 36.00 36.02 39.25 42.49 45.72 45.72 23.25 27.65 36.00 47.65 54.70 61.45 72.45 88.40
28 24.00 28.05 37.05 37.07 40.40 43.72 47.05 47.05 24.00 28.05 37.05 48.85 55.45 62.85 75.20 91.75
29 24.70 28.30 38.00 38.02 41.42 44.82 48.22 48.22 24.70 28.30 38.00 49.55 56.40 64.30 77.20 94.20
30 25.45 28.70 38.90 38.92 42.40 45.87 49.35 49.35 25.45 28.70 38.90 50.25 57.95 65.75 78.90 96.25

 

Notes – Higher Shipping Costs for Large Parcels

Zones 1 to 4: Parcels addressed for delivery to zones 1-4 (including local) that weigh less than 20 pounds but measure more than 84 inches in combined length and girth (but not more than 108 inches) are charged for a 20-pound parcel (balloon price) based on the applicable zone.

A parcel 24″ x 24″ x 6″ has a girth of 60, plus length of 24, giving 84 combined. Larger 18 and 19″ tires are already 24″, or almost 24″, in outer diameter, without the box. Two of those can exceed this limit, causing the price for a 3-lb box to jump to the 20-lb balloon price. Smaller tires 2.50 -17 have an outer diameter of 22″ so two of them can fit within the size limit as long as the box is a tight fitting 22″, not 24″. Box sizes go by the inside dimensions. Outer dimension is about 1/2″ more. Also add to that any bulge caused by the tire.

A better way to send two moped tires is to wrap the outside in stiff paper or plastic film, and tape cardboard onto the sides. Then the size is the smallest possible, to avoid the oversize parcel 20 lb “balloon price”. Then even two 2.50-18 tires (24 x 24 x 5) or two 2.75-17 (23.5 x 23.5 x 6) would still be under the size limit.

Wonder why they call it a “balloon price”? Hint: Imagine shipping a balloon!

Zones 5 to 9: Parcels addressed for delivery to zones 5-9 that exceed one cubic foot (1,728 cubic inches) are charged based on the actual weight or the dimensional weight, whichever is greater (as calculated in DMM 123.1.4).

1.4 Dimensional Weight Price for Low-Density Parcels to Zones 5-9

Postage for parcels addressed for delivery to Zones 5-8 and exceeding 1 cubic foot (1,728 cubic inches) is based on the actual weight or the dimensional weight (as calculated in 1.4.1 or 1.4.2), whichever is greater.

1.4.1 Determining Dimensional Weight for Rectangular Parcels

Follow these steps to determine the dimensional weight for a rectangular parcel:

a. Measure the length, width, and height in inches. Round off (see 604.7.0) each measurement to the nearest whole inch.

b. Multiply the length by the width by the height.

c. If the result exceeds 1,728 cubic inches, divide the result by 194 and round up (see 604.7.0) to the next whole number to determine the dimensional weight in pounds.

1.4.2 Determining Dimensional Weight for Nonrectangular Parcels

Follow these steps to determine the dimensional weight for a nonrectangular parcel:

a. Measure the length, width, and height in inches at their extreme dimensions. Round off (see 604.7.0) each measurement to the nearest whole inch.

b. Multiply the length by the width by the height.

c. Multiply the result by an adjustment factor of 0.785.

d. If the final result exceeds 1,728 cubic inches, divide the result by 194 and round up (see 604.7.0) to the next whole number to determine the dimensional weight in pounds.

e. If the dimensional weight exceeds 70 pounds, the mailer pays the 70-pound price.