CONTENTS: Welcome 1 Bulbs 2 Horns 3 Switches 4 Headlights 5 Tail Lights 6 Batteries 7 Wiring
Welcome. Most European made mopeds from about 1970 – 2000 have high quality CEV electrical components, made in Italy. CEV is a trade mark, owned by Fratelli Pagani, that stands for Costruzioni Elettromeccaniche Venegonesi. CEV is now owned by Zadi, a maker of moped fork locks. Other European moped electrical components include switches made by Merit, tail lights, head lights and turn signals made by ULO (Germany), head lights made by Luxor (France). Some American moped electrical components are headlights, tail lights made by Peterson (USA). Asian mopeds have their own components, which are often the same as earlier Honda items. The Czech moped, Jawa, has it’s own components.
1 B U L B S
Light bulbs are very universal. Most moped light bulbs are standard automotive bulbs. Moped 4.5 inch round head lights are the same as some tractor lights, auto and motorcycle fog lights, forklift, golf cart, utility vehicle lights. Most bulbs are made in 6 volt or 12 volt versions, But finding 6V bulbs is difficult since all cars are 12V since the 1970′s.
In all of these magneto/generator powered head lights, a 12 volt bulb will replace a 6 volt one, and be almost as bright.part# pic# volts watts base# bulb# style price applications/comments
============================================================================= 6 bulb 6V 0.6w BA7s 7mm tiny bayonet $2.00 use 12V 2W for less chance of burn-out ELB1262 6 bulb 6V 1.5w BA7s Puch speedo lite $1.50 use 12V 2W for less chance of burn-out
ELB3898 6 bulb 12V 2w BA7s Tomos & MB speedo lite $1.50 78-80 Motobecane/03-07 Tomos/other VDO ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– 200002 4 bulb 6V 1w BA9s GE#51 9mm bayonet $1.50 200003 4 bulb 12V 2w BA9s GE#53 Tomos dash $1.00 87-on Tomos/many Japanese ELB3893 4 bulb 12V 4w BA9s 9mm bayonet $2.00 ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– PeuSpdo bulb 6V 1 or 2w E10 10mm screw-in $1.50 76-80 Peugeot speedometer SolexHL bulb 6V 2 or 3w E10 10mm screw-in yellow $2.00 early Solex 3800 head light ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– ELB5006 3 bulb 6V 5w BA15s GE#63 Puch tail lite $2.00 77-later Puch must have this to be bright ELB5001 3 bulb 6V 10w BA15s GE#81 15mm base $2.00 ELB57 3 bulb 12V 5w BA15s GE#67 15mm single $1.50 ELB89 3 bulb 12V 10w BA15s GE#89 15mm bayonet $1.50 ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————- ELB1129 2 bulb 6V 18w BA15s GE#1129 1 filament $2.00 modern 1129 is 6V 18 watt
H101C 2 bulb 6V 21w BA15s Puch head lite $2.00 1970′s 1129 was 6V 21 watt
ELB1156 2 bulb 12V 21w BA15s GE#1156 15mm bayonet $2.00 ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– vespaTL 1 bulb 6V 3/15w BA15d 15mm dual filament $3.00 Vespa Ciao tail light
ELB1154 1 bulb 6V 21/5w BA15d GE#1154 15mm dual $2.00 ELB1157 1 bulb 12V 21/5w BA15d GE#1157 15 bayonet dual $1.50 ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– 15 bulb 6V 25/25w BA20d 20mm bayonet dual $12.00 Derbi Variant Sport 1986-89 200018 15 bulb 12V 35/35w BA20d 20mm bayonet dual $7.00 Tomos Revival/Streetmate 44701 15 bulb 12V 25/25w BA20d 20mm bayonet dual $9.00 Tomos 1990-later square HL
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– 200023 bulb 12V 15w P26s 26 x 15 flange type $9.00 Tomos Arrow-R and Streetmate-R (dual light) ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– 10626.5 5 bulb 6V 1.5w festoon looks like fuse n.a. ELB6428 5 bulb 12V 3w SV7-8 festoon $2.00 200019 bulb 12V 10w festoon 48 x 12mm approx. $2.00 ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– 44687 7 bulb 6V 1.2w all glass 5mm CEV speedometer $2.00 ELB74 7 bulb 12V 1.2w all glass #74 CEV speedometer $2.00 ELB194 bulb 12V 3w all glass wedge #194 $2.00 ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– GE4667 10 bulb 6V 18w 4.5″sealed beam #4667 rear prongs n.a. must de-pin the 2-pin plug & use 4667-1 GE4667-1 bulb 6V 18w 4.5″sealed beam 4667-1 side prongs $10.00 Vespa CEV171 10 bulb 6V 21w 4.5″sealed beam CEV171 rear prongs n.a. can cut hole in steel back for upgrade GE4767 10 bulb 6V 25w 4.5″sealed beam #4767 rear prongs n.a. Peugeot original has more watts W4158 bulb 6V 25w 4.5″sealed beam #4158 2-screws n.a. Motobecane 76-77 original (Westinghouse) 201008 bulb 12V 25w 4.5″sealed beam #4568 2-screws n.a. Motobecane 78-80 original (Westinghouse)
GE4776 bulb 12V 25w 4.5″sealed beam #4776 2-screws n.a. Motobecane 78-80 (General Electric)
200082 bulb 12V 35w 4.5″sealed beam #4416 spot lamp $15.00 narrow beam, smooth glass (Wagner)
200080 bulb 12V 35w 4.5″sealed beam #4415 fog lamp $17.00 normal beam, normal glass (Wagner) ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– CEV172 12 bulb 6V 25/25 4.5″sealed beam CEV172 3-prong n.a. can cut hole in steel back for upgrade 200084 12 bulb 12V 40/40 4.5″sealed beam #4440 3-prong $25.00 ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————– E8764 socket snap-on for BA15s bulbs such as #1156 $6.00 for steel-back-headlight recycling
04811 11 socket BA15s for CEV glass lens/reflector $13.00 18890 9 clip for CEV socket 04811 $1.00 CEV171R 8 glass lens/reflector CEV 171 new w/04811 $45.00 CEVused 8 glass lens/reflector recycled w/socket $35.00 says either CEV171 or 172 on glass
10343 w-clip CEV for holding glass to rim uses 4-5 $1.00 for CEV rims
LuxorW w-clip Luxor for holding glass to rim uses 4-5 $1.50 for Luxor rims ———————————————————————————————————————————————————————–
Bulbs are specified by their style, size, voltage, and wattage. #1,#2,#3 are bayonet style 15mm, BA15s and BA15d, where you push it in first a little, then turn it clockwise 45 degrees to go on, or counterclockwise to take off. A single filament bayonet bulb can go two ways, but a double filament only goes in one way. That’s because one prong is higher than the other on a dual filament. That’s so you can’t reverse the tail and brake lights. The BA20d hi/lo headlites are the same way. The smaller bayonets are #4, 9mm BA9S, and #6, 7mm BA7S. #5 is a festoon style bulb that looks like a glass fuse but it’s not. It’s a high beam indicator lite.
#10 and #12 are sealed beam 4 1/2″ round headlites, where the bulb is sealed inside the glass reflector and lens. Sealed beam bulbs cost much more than replaceable ones so it’s practical to upgrade to a replaceable bulb whenever possible. When your burned out sealed beam headlite is made out of metal, on the back, not glass, then Myrons Mopeds can recycle it, for $22 plus $8 parts plus shipping. Many vintage Japanese and European small motorcycles and mopeds have hard to get sealed beam bulbs, such as CEV171 or 172, with metal backs. A hole is cut and a universal bulb socket snaps in. The original wire plug(s) are re-used. The bulb is a single filament, easy to get at convenience stores, #1156. If the original had hi/lo beam, then it will have just low after the upgrade.
Above, any metal-backed (not glass) headlight can be recycled. Cut a hole and snap in a socket for an #1156 bulb.
Mopeds frequently burn out bulbs, from both vibration and surges of electricity. Because there’s no battery, the voltage varies a little. At idle the lights are very dim, but at full speed they’re bright. Hopefully they’re not bright white, as that means it might burn out soon. Yellow is good but orange is too dim. For some reason, most old 6 volt mopeds need 12 volt bulbs, or else they burn out. Some bikes need a 12V AC voltage regulator ($45) added on in addition to 12V bulbs, to help prevent bulb burn out. Only when 12V bulbs are too dim should 6V ones be used, with the following exception. The 77-later Puch needs a 6V 21W #1129 instead of a 12V 21W #1156, in order for the tail lite to be bright. Other bikes have issues where the brake light is needed for the ignition to function. Some taillights have a secret hidden resistor inside, that allows the bike to run even with a burned out or missing brake light bulb. See service section for more info about weird light behavior and what mopeds need what lights to run, if any.
2 S W I T C H E S
|8053.1||3||switch..turn.signal..CEV.round.chrome||N/A||see below for substitute|
|MP342A||7A||switch..R.stop.Merit.square.blk.plastic||$20.00||78-on Puch Maxi Luxe/Newport/Magnum|
|MP343A||8A||switch..L.lite&h.Merit.square.blk.plast||$30.00||good used, cleaned, serviced, checked|
|none||15||switch.mount..CEV.console..blk.alum||$5.00||no clamp, no grommet, needs repainting|
|none||switch.mount.clamp..CEV.console..al||$10.00||all good but needs repainting|
CEV 8053.1 Turn Signal Switch Substitute (made from a 8041 cap and a 8040.3 base)
The CEV 8053.1 is a handlebar mount, left side clamp-on, 3-position turn signal switch, Left-Off-Right, that came on 1970′s mopeds with CEV turn signals. It is a “round chrome” style switch that shares the same clamp with other CEV round chrome switches. For $15 you can buy the 8041 light/horn switch assy, and the 8040.3 light/horn switch base, needed to make a substitute 8053.1. Or for $25 each, you can order the substitute 8053.1 ready to install. It will have a “dummy” button that does nothing but hide the hole.
3 H O R N S
Most mopeds do not have a battery, so the electricity is all AC alternating current. Some mopeds and almost all motorcycles have a battery, usually 12 volt. Their electricity can be all DC or part DC and part AC. An incandescent light bulb works the same on AC or DC, but a horn is made for either AC or DC. DC current horns go beeeeeeeep, like a little cute car horn. AC horns sound like the buzzer when you get a wrong answer on a TV game show. AC horns also sound like duck callers. The pitch goes up with the rpm of the engine. They’re not much louder than the engine.
It is difficult to sell used or new old stock AC horns that were made 35 years ago. If they haven’t been kept in a sealed wrapper, then they might not work good, even though they’re new. It’s because corrosion can get on the aluminum plate. Furthermore, you cannot easily tell whether a horn is good or bad. You cannot easily look inside because it is riveted together. You cannot perform a valid test of it unless you have the moped it is intended to go on, running, with working horn wires and button. Because the AC an vary from one kind to another, and from a new one to an old one of the same kind, you never know if a horn that works on a Peugeot for example, would work on a Puch, until you try it. Or it might work good on Puch at low rpm, but not high. Maybe visa versa on Garelli. It also matters whether the head light is off or on. Many AC horns will not work, or are not loud, unless the headlight is off.
Myrons Mopeds has some 6V AC horns, but they are only offered when the running good moped is present in the shop and able to easily attach the horn to test it. The price is usually $20-25 for a good used AC horn.
All modern scooters and motorcycles have 12 volt DC horns. They are common. Some older Taiwanese mopeds have 6 volt DC horns. AC buzzers are “old school” and are not on anything modern. So there are no known freshly made replacements.
4 H E A D L I G H T S
These are the CEV 4 1/2″ round headlights. There are others: Taiwan, Luxor/Novi, Inox (Magnum), Jawa, AMF.
|…… H E A D… L I G H T S……||SB = sealed beam rep = replaceable|
|18541||1||screw 3mm for 1211 plastic takes 3||$1|
|04910||2||glass lens for CEV1211||$45|
|04909||3||housing for CEV1211 w/bulb socket||$5|
|3444||4||M6 lock washer|
|3171||5||M6 x 20 hex bolt/pair w/washers||$1|
|19782||6||rear cover plate for CEV1211||$2|
|1211||7||pancake headlight CEV1211/rep-bulb||$50||Derbi/Tomos/others|
|3309||8||M5 x 15 slot head bolt||$1|
|04522||9||rim CEV Tipo 105 new||$20||mint fresh condition|
|04522||9||rim CEV Tipo 105 used||$10||minor scratch or dent but good|
|10343||10||regular headlight clip “W” type||$1||takes 3 to 6, equal spaced, snaps in, no tools|
|10343||10||continued …||this clip is different from French or Taiwan ones|
|04525.6B||11||round housing for CEV2143||$20||gloss black on most, matte black on Peugeot|
|04525.6B||11||round housing for CEV2143 used||$10|
|2143||12||round headlight CEV2143/SB-bulb||$55|
|2157||12||round headlight CEV2157/rep-bulb||$70|
|2152||13||round headlight CEV2152/SB/Hi-lite||N/A||Kreidler|
|10626.5||14||hi beam indicator bulb (looks like fuse)||$2||12 volt one only, festoon bulb|
|0007.12||15||hi beam indicator socket no jewel||$7||KTM Foxi, Sparta Foxi, Cimatti, Kreidler|
|hi beam||16||hi beam indicator jewel w/socket new||$25||these get sun damaged|
|17||round housing for CEV2152 (=2143 + hole)||?||Kreidler|
|00096B||18||bullet housing for 2139/2158||$30|
|00096B||18||bullet housing for 2139/2158 used||$15|
|2139||19||bullet headlight CEV2139/SB-bulb||$60|
|2158||19||bullet headlight CEV2158/rep-bulb||$75||FOR NEW TOMOS BULLET HEADLITE OPTION|
|2155||20||bullet headlight CEV2155 no bulb used||$35||Cimatti/Foxi with hi beam indicator on top|
|000963B||21||bullet housing for CEV2155 used||$15|
Far right, a CEV 2158 “bullet” headlight. It comes with a block off plate over the speedometer hole. Most European moped speedometers fit into the hole, such as CEV, VDO, Huret, Veglia. Japanese made Tatung speedos are too small. besides the beautiful classic look, hiding most of the wiring inside, the glass fixture features a replaceable bulb socket, a big benefit. With sealed beam headlights, when they (often) burn out you have to buy a whole new glass, that’s both expensive and difficult to find. But with a non-sealed beam (replaceable bulb) fixture, you can change the small 15mm bulb inside. It’s a common automotive bulb #1156 (12V 21W) or #1129 (6V21W). You can get an 1156 at all night convenience stores for $1 or $2. Another benefit is you can run an LED bulb, or any 1156 compatible. That’s a single prong bulb. No high beam, just low.
5 T A I L L I G H T S
6 B A T T E R I E S
===================================================================================Model V Ah Shape Width Height Depth 6N2 6 2 flat 2 3/4 3 3/4 1 3/4 6N2A 6 2 tall 2 3/4 4 1/8 1 3/4 6N4 6 4 square 2 3/4 3 5/8 2 5/8 6N4A 6 4 tall 2 3/8 5 1/8 2 1/8 6N4B 6 4 flat 3 7/8 3 7/8 1 3/4 6N4C 6 4 short? 6N5.5 6 5.5 norm 3 3/8 3 7/8 2 5/8 BTX4L 12 4 sealed 4 3/8 3 1/2 2 5/8 YB4L 12 4 norm 4 5/8 3 3/4 2 3/4
The number after “6N” means the amp-hours. A 6N2 will deliver 2 amps (12 watts at 6 volts) for 1 hour. A 6N4 will deliver 4 amps (24 watts at 6 volts) for 1 hour, or 1 amp for 4 hours. The bigger the battery is, the more amp hours it can produce.
|…… B…A…T…T…E…R…I…E…S……||in store sales – add $5 for adding the acid|
|none||battery 5-pack of1.2V niCad Cateye TS||N/A||must buy each cell and join and bundle|
|781090||1||battery 6V 6N2-2A without acid||$15||does not have “vintage” fuse and extra wire|
|battery 6V 6N2-2A vintage w/acid pack||$30||Honda 1978-79 NC50 Express, 65-69 Honda S65|
|….continued >||Taiwan mopeds: Indian, Lazer, Angel|
|4902003||battery 6V 6N2-2A-1 with acid packet||$20|
|781003||2||battery 6V 6N2-2A-3 without acid||$15||Yamaha 1972 JT2 mini, 70-72 Kawasaki G4TR|
|….continued >||Kawasaki 1970-71 F5, 71-72 F8, F9|
|781082||3||battery 6V 6N2-2A-4 without acid||$15||Suzuki 80-81 FA50 Shuttle, 1968 Model 31|
|….continued >||Suzuki 1973-77 GT185|
|4902010||battery 6V 6N2-2A-8 with acid packet||$20|
|6N2A2C1||4||battery 6V 6N2A-2C-1 without acid||$15||Honda 1969-70 Z50A Mini Trail|
|781092||5||battery 6V 6N2A-2C-3 without acid||$15||Honda 1977 NC50 Express, 73 SL70, 72-73 CT70|
|781016||6||battery 6V 6N4-2A without acid||$15||Suzuki 1968 M12,K10,K10P, 1971 AC50,AS50|
|….continued >||Suzuki TC90, 1968 K11, 1969 A100, 76-77 A100|
|….continued >||Suzuki B100P,1969 AC100,AS100,73-77 TC100|
|….continued >||Suzuki B105P,KT120|
|781079||battery 6V 6N4-2A-4 without acid||N/A||Honda 1967-68 P50, 79-80 XL100S|
|781067||battery 6V 6N4-2A-5 without acid||N/A||Yamaha QT50,YSR50,MJ50,LB50,LC50,GT80|
|….continued >||Kawasaki MC1,G3SS,KH100,G5,G4TR,G3SS,F6,F7|
|781084||7||battery 6V 6N4-2A-8 without acid||$15||Honda 1980-83 NC50 Express, 80-81 NA50 Express II|
|….continued >||Honda 1980-82 CT70|
|781015||12||battery 6V 6N4A-4D without acid||$15||Yamaha many early tall|
|4902036||8||battery 6V 6N4B-2A with acid packet||$22||does not have “vintage” fuse and extra wire|
|battery 6V 6N4B-2A vintage w/acid pack||$32||Suzuki 1979-80 OR50, 71 TC120, 73-77 TC125|
|….continued >||Taiwan mopeds: General, Grycner, AMS|
|781063||9||battery 6V 6N4B-2A-3 without acid||N/A||Kawasaki 1973-75 F9, F11|
|battery 6V 6N4B-2A-5 without acid||N/A||Honda 1978-83 PA50 Hobbit|
|781055||battery 6V 6N4C-1B without acid||N/A||Honda 1974-79 CT70, 81-82 Honda XL100S|
|781021||10||battery 6V 6N5.5-1D without acid||$20||Honda 1973-75 ST90, 1969 SL90, 67-70 CL90|
|4902075||battery 6V B39-6 (thin) with acid packet||$30||Vespa Ciao, Bravo, Grande with blinkers|
|6N12A||11||battery 6V 6N12A-2D without acid||$30||Early Vespa scooters|
|battery 12V YB4L-B Yuasa without acid||$40||84-85 Honda Spree|
|492263||13||battery 12V CTX4L-BS with acid packet||$40||Tomos battery models 2001-later|
|581306||battery 12V YTX4L-BS Yuasa w/acid pack||$60||Tomos and most modern 50cc bikes|
Vintage Battery Wires: Some of the modern replacement 6 volt batteries have the wrong wires. See the image below at right, how the modern and vintage 6N2-2A and 6N4B-2A batteries have different wires. The word “vintage” used above means it has the older wires (with fuse, double female bullet, and extra wire). The vintage versions cost $10 more because the wires must be added on. Otherwise, the old battery’s wires can be transferred onto the new battery, by the customer, saving the $10.
Battery Acid: The batteries that say “without acid” are sold dry and sealed, for freshness and maximum strength. Battery acid must be added before use, but it is not included with the battery. It’s sold in auto parts stores. Walk-in customers get the battery filled at the time of sale for $5 more.
Battery Charging: All lead acid batteries need to be kept charged, at least every 2-3 months, or they will become weaker and weaker with age. After 2 years of sitting they are less than 25% of their original strength. That’s why these batteries are sold dry. For a lead acid battery, life begins at the moment the electrolyte (dilute sulfuric acid) is added. Read the instructions with each battery. Wear eye and skin protection. Use baking soda to neutralize spills.
7 W I R I N G
This is a main wiring harness for 3-or-more-coil moped magnetos (ignition, lights, brake light). It can be configured for 2-coil magnetos (ignition/brake light, lights). See below for possible configurations. It is shown as a photo and a schematic. It comes with the round chrome switches, right for engine stop, left for headlight and horn. Price is $65.
This is only the front main harness. A rear harness, engine to tail light, and connector block are needed to make a complete harness, but they’re not included.
|O T H E R… E L E C T R I C A L|
|221582||regulator AC voltage 12V||$45|
|regulator AC voltage 6V used MB||$30|
|222428||flasher turn signal 12V 2-prong||$7|
|223233||horn 12VAC black Tomos A35||N/A|
|201204||fuse blade 10A 5-pack||$5|
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