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Contents:  1. Bing “Puch”   2. Bing “Sachs”   3. Bing “Kreidler”   4. Bing “Solo”

                    5. Bing “Jawa”   6. Bing “Allstate”   7. Bing “Austro Daimler”

                    8. Bing “Magnum X”   9. Bing Jets   10. Bing Service 

bing crownWelcome. Included here are Bing carburetors used on mopeds, originally sold in the US from 1960 to 1990. This is only a small segment of Bing. There are also Bing carburetors on mopeds not originally sold in the US, or from earlier or later times, and on most German motorcycles and power equipment.

These carburetor categories are nick-named after the most popular US model or make. The Sears Allstate moped had the same carburetor and engine as 1950’s and 60’s Puch MS50 series and Tomos Colibri mopeds. The Puch Magnum X small motorcycle carburetor was the same as on many other 50cc motorcycles, especially German.    

Bing moped carburetors, 10, 12, and 14mm, came on German (Sachs, Kreidler, Solo), Austrian (Puch, Kromag), and Slovakian (Jawa-Babetta, Manet-Puch) mopeds (US models). Besides the three venturi sizes, there are also different configurations and clamp mount sizes. Puch, Solo, and Kreidler Bings have round float bowls that screw on, and 3.5mm jets. Sachs Bings are square and “smashed up against a wall”, too close for any other carburetor to substitute, and have 4.0mm jets. Puch Bings have a 20mm ID clamp mount, and 20mm OD spigot mount for the air filter. Sachs Bings also have a 20mm clamp mount, and a two-bolt flange mount for the air filter and external choke. Solo and Kreidler Bings have a smaller 16mm clamp mount, and a large 53mm “bell” for the air filter to clamp to.   

The model number, stamped on, tells the size and settings. Use the Puch Carb Specs Table below to find what jet number and other parts your carburetor originally came with. Then use the Bing Jet list or graph to find what jet drill should pass through. Then use that drill to clean the old jet and restore it to normal size.


Puch small1.  B I N G   P U C H   C A R B S
12, 14, or 15mm     clamp size 20mm

 

 #   part number   price    description        notes

1a ..115.0091/48 $15.0 3.5mm jet #48  see Carb Specs Table 
1b
 ..115.0091/50   none 3.5mm jet #50  see Carb Specs Table 
1c
 ..115.0091/52 $5.00 3.5mm jet #52  see Carb Specs Table 
1d
 ..115.0091/56 $7.00 3.5mm jet #56  see Carb Specs Table 
1e
 ..115.0091/58 $7.00 3.5mm jet #58  see Carb Specs Table 
1f 
 ..115.0091/64 $6.00 3.5mm jet #64  see Carb Specs Table 
1g
 ..115.0091/68 $7.00 3.5mm jet #68  see Carb Specs Table 
2   ..115.0081/22 $8.00 needle jet 2.22  see Carb Specs Table 
2a ..115.0081/12 $15.0 needle jet 2.12A see Carb Specs Table 
2b ..115.0081/17 $15.0 needle jet 2.17   see Carb Specs Table
3   ..115.0151/24 $12.0 slide Ø16.5 #24 see Carb Specs Table
3a ..115.0151/51 $15.0 slide Ø16.5 #51 see Carb Specs Table
3b ..115.0151/11  N/A    slide Ø16.5 #11 see Carb Specs Table
4    364.415.5161 $18.0  jet needle 1-mark, 36mm, for 1/14/xxx 
4a  330.115.0161 $18.0  jet needle 2-mark, 36mm, for 1/12/xxx
5    362.115.0131 $2.00  clip for needle    
6    362.115.0141 $1.00 disc (washer), this is optional
7    362.215.0131 $8.00 spring throttle Ø13 x 58   
8    349.115.0291 $3.00 gasket for top      
9    349.115.0191 $7.00 carb top bare                 
9 + 13 + 33 xxxx $15.0 top assy  long choke rod for 1/14/xxx
9 + 13 + 33a xxx $15.0 top assy short choke rod for 1/12/xxx
10   050.1535 xxx $1.50 screw M4 thin shank (2) stays with the top
11 + 12 xxxxxxxx $2.00 adjuster w/nut M5-0.80 (in 2-ended cable)
13   362.115.0641 $2.00 clip for choke rod, clicks when fully up
14a 349.115.0181 $12.0 elbow long  M6x.75, M5 for Maxi-types
14b 321.115.0181 $15.0 elbow short M6x.75, M5 Magnum-types
15   26779 xxxxxx $2.50 lock nut thin M6 x 0.75
16   349.115.0111 $3.00 idle speed screw M5x0.8
17   349.115.0121 $3.00 spring idle Ø5,Ø7 x 9 
18   362.215.0252 $20.0 float slotted, for most
18a early float xx    none float not slotted, Sears+Kreidler
19   362.115.0271 $4.00 hinge pin float    
20   362.215.0262 $15.0 rubber tip for slotted float
20a early needle   $39.0 metal tip for non-slotted float
21   362.115.0241 $8.00 float bowl used metal    
22   362.115.0281 $3.50 gasket float bowl 45 x 41 x 1.5mm
24   320.115.0381 $10.0 banjo fuel inlet steel     
25   320.115.0391 $7.00 banjo bolt M8 x 0.75     
26   900.3702 xxx $1.00 seal washer M8 x 12 (2)  
27   362.115.0372 $15.0 fuel filter thimble, clean and reuse
28   349.115.0131 $3.00 clamp bolt M6x20 thin shank
29   328.115.0362 $3.00 primer for cold starting, pushes float down
30   364.115.0331 $7.00 spring for primer         
31   364.115.0341 $3.00 cottor pin for primer, original is crimped
32   349.115.0651 $9.00 slide choke       
33   349.215.0631 $4.00 rod choke short 38mm for 1/12/xxx
33a 349.115.0631 $3.00 rod choke long 40mm  for 1/14/xxx
34   349.115.0471 $7.00 choke rod extension     for Maxi-types

Puch Bing photos

Maxi-type frames are sheet metal: Puch Maxi, Sport, Newport, GN, …
Magnums are tube frames: Puch Cobra, Sears Free Spirit, JC Penney…

35   349.115.0070 $30.0 intake silencer for Maxi-type models
36   349.115.0731 $7.00 inlet tube damper pre-84 Maxi 1.5&2hp
37   900.1320 xxx $0.50 slot screw M6x20
37a 900.226 xxxx $0.40 nut M6
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40   321.115.2700 $55.0 silencer 2.0hp, no #44’s Magnum-types
40a 321.215.2700 $55.0 silencer 1.5, 1hp w/44’s Magnum-types
41   900.9886 xxx $2.00 hose clamp 1 inch         
42   321.115.2711 $15.0 front silencer half        
43   050.1540.2 x  $30.0 air filter metal mesh      
44   349.115.0741 $3.00 restrictor 1.5 & 1.0hp   
45   321.115.0741 $5.00 sound damper pipe       
46   321.115.0741 $8.00 mount clamp               
47   26565            $0.50 hex bolt M5 x 16
48   321.315.0701 $15.0 rear silencer              

Bing Puch choke rods

Bing “Puch” choke rods
left long, right short

Bing "Puch" carb elbows

Bing “Puch” carb elbows
left long, right short

Bing 16.5mm throttle slides

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Puch smallbing crown                     P U C H   C A R B   S P E C S   T A B L E

Normally, carburetors appear first in the parts list. But Puch has over 30 versions. So they are here instead. Use this table to find your Puch carburetor’s original jet size and other settings, just by knowing the ID Number. Or use the applications and other clues to find what ID Number and settings that it originally had, if the original carb ID Number is not known or not trusted.  

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BING PUCH CARB APPLICATION CHART SETTINGS FOR ORIGINAL CARBURETORS
intake jet   throttle        needle      air
carb ID#  years  version  brand   model manifold size  slide needle  jet          box
###### # ################################### ###### #########################
1/15/46 Aftermarket Puch Carb 15mm unknown 82     24      1      2.17      none
——— —————— 1  4   m m  C A R B S ———————– ———- —————————————————-
1/14/152 1976-76  2.0hp  Puch  N, S, Nostalgic Ø14 sqr 64     24      2      2.20      maxi
1/14/160 1977-79  2.0hp  Puch  GN, Maxi Ø14 sqr 64     24      1      2.22      maxi
1/14/163 1978-78  2.0hp  Sears  Free Spirit Ø14 sqr 68     11      2      2.12A    magnum
1/14/164 1978-78  1.5hp  Sears  Free Spirit Ø8.5sqr 52     11      2      2.12A    mag.rest
same 1978-78  1.0hp  Sears  Free Spirit Ø6.7sqr same
1/14/xxx 1981-81  1.5hp  Puch  Series B Ø8.5sqr 52     51      2      2.12A    mag.rest
1/14/166 1980-81  2.0hp  Murray Ø14 sqr 62     51      2      2.12A    magnum
1/14/xxx 1981-81  2.0hp  Puch  Series B Ø14 sqr 68     51      2      2.12A    magnum
1/14/185 1980-85  2.0hp  Puch  Maxi, Sport LS Ø14 circ 64     24      1      2.22      maxi late
1/14/196 1984-86  2.0hp  Puch  Cobra 1, Cobra 2 Ø14 tall 68     24      2      2.17      magnum
same 1984-85  1.5hp  Puch  Cobra 1 Ø14 circ same
1/14/203 1984-86  1.5hp  Puch  Cobra 2 Ø14 tall 70     24      2      2.17      magnum
1/14/157 1978-79  ???hp  JC Penney Swinger 2  Ø14 sqr
———– —————— 1  2   m m  C A R B S ——————— ——— ————————————————
1/12/279  modern remake
1/12/292 1977-78  1.0hp  Puch  GN, Maxi, Sport, Newport Ø12 circ 54     24      2      2.22      maxi
1/12/293 1978-78  2.0hp  Puch  Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport Ø14 circ 60     24      2      2.22      maxi
same 1977-80  1.5hp  Puch  GN, Maxi, Sport, Newport Ø12 circ same
1/12/294 1979-80  1.0hp  Puch  GN, Maxi, Sport, Newport Ø12 circ 52     24      2      2.22      maxi
1/12/297 A 1980-80  1.0hp  Puch  Magnum II, Magnum MkII Ø12 tall 52     51      2      2.12A    mag.rest
1/12/299
1/12/300 1978-80  1.0hp  Puch  Sport MkII, New. II, Maxi II Ø12 tall 48     11      2      2.12A    maxi
1/12/302 1978-79 1.0hp JC Penney Swinger 1 Ø12 circ 50     ??       2      2.22      mag.rest
1/12/304 1978-78  1.5hp  Puch  Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport Ø12 circ 66     24      2      2.22      maxi
1/12/305 unknown unknown unknown
1/12/307 1979-80  2.0hp  Puch  Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport Ø12 circ 58     11      2      2.12A    maxi
same 1978-78  2.0hp  Puch  Sport MkII Ø14 tall same
1/12/309 1980-80  1.5hp  Puch Magnum II, Magnum MkII Ø12 tall 48     51      2      2.12A    mag.rest
same 1980-80  1.5hp  Puch Maxi Luxe Ø12 circ 48     51      2      2.12A    maxi
1/12/310 1979-79  1.5hp  Puch  Maxi Luxe, Sport, Newport Ø12 circ 48     51      2      2.12A    maxi
1/12/314 1979-80  2.0hp  Puch  Maxi II, Sport MkII, New. II Ø14 tall 56     24      2      2.22      maxi
1/12/316 1978-79  2.0hp  Puch  Magnum XK Ø14 tall 64     11      2      2.12A   magnum
1/12/317 1978-79  1.5hp  Puch  Magnum XK Ø12 tall 50     11      2      2.12A    mag.rest
1/12/318 1978-79  1.0hp  Puch  Magnum XK, Magnum MkII Ø12 tall 50     11      2      2.12A    mag.rest
1/12/322 1978-80  2.0hp  Puch  Magnum II, Magnum MkII Ø14 tall 60     51      2      2.12A    magnum
1/12/323 1978-79  1.5hp  Puch  Magnum MkII Ø12 tall 48     11      2      2.12A    mag.rest
###### # ################################### ###### #########################

 

Above is a list of about 30 different Bing Puch carburetors. There are just two “carb bodies”,  12 and 14mm. But they can have different jets, needle jets, throttle slides, and throttle needles (different from float needle!).  Use the chart above to configure (change the settings) a carburetor for a particular model, as long as it’s original and stock. For example, you have a 1977 Puch Maxi with no carburetor. You have a 1980 Murray carburetor that looks identical. From the chart they are both 14mm venturi, but the jet needs to be size 64 not 62, the slide #24 not 51, the needle 1 notch not 2, and the needle jet size 2.22 not 2.12A. Change those four things, and change the stamped on number from 1/14/166 to 1/14/160, and you will have the original specification carburetor. Or if you have a scrambled pile of carburetors and loose pieces, you can make any original configuration carburetor from the chart.

There are always some (sometimes lots of) little things that make life difficult. Old engines with compression and/or air leaks will need bigger than original jets. Old engines with clogged exhausts will need smaller than original jets. Engines with the original air box removed or modified will need bigger jets. Engines with performance exhausts will need bigger jets. Engines with big bore cylinder kits will need much bigger jets. This chart says what jet your bike had when it was brand new, not necessarily what jet is correct for it in it’s current state.

 


bing crown2.  B I N G   S A C H S   C A R B S
   10 or 12mm     clamp size 20mm

 
Sachs engines for US models:
internal pedals   external pedals
Sachs 505/1B    Sachs 504/1B    1-spd auto 25km/h (18mph)
Sachs 505/1A    Sachs 504/1A    1-spd auto 40km/h (26mph)
Sachs 505/1D    Sachs 504/1D    1-spd auto 45km/h (29mph)
Sachs 505/1D    Sachs 508/2D    2-spd auto 45km/h (29mph)
 
Carburetor Jet Slide N.jet Needle Float Price    Applications
85/10/101   50  2B 2.17 33mm no slot  N/A ’76-79 504,505/1B
85/10/101A 50  2B 2.17 33mm slotted  N/A ’79-85 504,505/1B 
85/12/101   52  2B 2.17 36mm no slot  N/A ’76-79 504,505/1A
85/12/101A 52  2B 2.17 36mm slotted  N/A ’79-85 504,505/1A
85/12/104A 58   2  none none  slotted  N/A ’78-’79 504,505/1D
85/12/118   55   2  none none  slotted  N/A ’80-’85 504,505/1D

Note that the later 104A and 118 carbs have no jet needle.

#   Sachs part #   price    description                   
  0961.151.050 $8.00 4mm jet #50 for 85/10/101 & 101A
  0961.151.052   none 4mm jet #52 for 85/12/101 & 101A
  0961.151.055   none 4mm jet #55 for 85/12/104A
  0961.151.058 $8.00 4mm jet #58 for 85/12/118

2   0261.142.002 $18.0 needle jet 2.17 (not for 104A or 118)
2a 0247.143.000 $7.00 needle jet ring (not for 104A or 118)
3   0261.145.000 $22.0 fuel filter Sachs type
4   0261.146.000 $15.0 slide #2B Ø14.5 (not for 104A or 118)
4   0261.148.000  N/A    slide #2   Ø14.5 only for 104A & 118
5   0261.006.003 $22.0 needle 33mm for 85/10/101 or 101A
5   0261.006.004 $18.0 needle 36mm for 85/12/101 or 101A
6   0261.018.000 $3.00 clip for needle (not for 104A or 118)
7   0244.109.000 $1.50 washer/plate (not for 104A or 118)
8   0239.140.000 $10.0 spring Ø11 x 36mm 
9   0250.162.000 $3.00 gasket carb top        
10  0261.144.000 $15.0 carb top w/screws 
11  0000.111.000 $1.50 screw carb top M4 Bing Puch 10
12  0000.111.000 $12.0 elbow carb M7 long thicker than Puch
12a  000.111.000 $15.0 elbow carb M7 short thicker than Puch
13  0000.111.000 $2.00 locknut M7 x 0.75   
14  0000.111.000 $2.50 locknut M6 x 0.75
15  0000.111.000 $4.00 adjuster M6 x 0.75 
15  0000.111.000 -N/A– (not trapped within the 2-ended cable)
12  0261.143.000 $15.0 12 + 13 + 14 + 15  long elbow assy
12a  000.111.000 $18.0 12a+13 + 14 + 15  short elbow assy
19  3640.022.002 $3.00 clamp bolt M5 x 20 thin shank
20  0962.065.000 $3.00 idle screw M5x0.8 Bing Puch 16
21  0962.090.000 $3.00 spring for idle screw Bing Puch 17
22  0000.111.00$39.0 float needle metal for no-slot float
22a2661.027.000 $15.0 float needle rubber for slotted float
23  0000.111.000 $30.0 float only, no slot for metal tip needle
23  0281.125.000 $60.0 22 + 23 + 24  no-slot float+needle
23a 000.111.000  $45.0 float only, slotted for rubber tip needle
23a0281.125.001 $65.0 22a + 23a + 24 slotted float+needle
24  0000.111.000 $7.00 hinge pin float  bigger than Puch
25  0261.141.000 $10.0 float bowl
26  0240.213.001 $0.70 M4 x 12 slot head
27  0250.161.000 $15.0 gasket float bowl  original cork fresh
28  0261.125.000 $10.0 hose fitting/banjo Bing Puch 24
29  0242.110.000 $7.00 cap nut M8 x 0.75  for early versions
30  0962.013.000 $1.00 seal ring M8 (2) Bing Puch 26

o-ring #41 is on some

31  0000.111.000 $3.00 primer 
32  0000.111.000 $7.00 spring for primer
33  0000.111.000 $3.00 cotter pin for spring
      0281.109.000 $10.0 31 + 32 + 33 

Sachs Bing carb and air filter assembly

Some Sachs intake pipes have a cut-out for an o-ring. That o-ring is the same as the air box o-ring #41, Ø17 x 1.5

 

Sachs air box front

 

 

 

 

 

40  0000.111.000  N/A    air box complete Ø16  for Ø12 carbs
40a0000.111.000  N/A    air box complete Ø13 for Ø10 carbs
41  0250.160.101 $1.50 rubber o-ring 17 x 1.5 
42  0225.007.000 $15-$20 air box front half      
43  0239.138.000 $5.00 choke slide spring     
44  0225.009.000 $20-$25 choke plate/slide      
45  0224.160.000 $3.00 mount plate metal 
46  0240.211.002 $0.50 M5 x 10 slot screws  takes two
46  0282.114.000 $45.0 41+42+43+44+45  front half assy
47  0225.008.005  N/A    air box rear  Ø16  grey for Ø12 carbs
47a0225.008.000 $45.0 air box rear  Ø13.5 black for Ø10 carbs
48  0225.010.100 $18.0 air filter/spacer, new
49  0239.139.000 $12.0 wire clip air box

The air filter 48 has a rubber spacer around it. This rubber becomes soft, making the clip looser. Then a bump or jolt causes the air box back half 47 to detach and soon fall off. That is why most are missing 47, 48, 49.

Sachs Choke Cable Trickery: Above, a Sachs Bing carburetor and air filter assembly. First the grey steel plate goes inside the white plastic box front half. Then the two M5x12 screws bolt it to the carburetor. Then the choke cable is fed through the box half, The choke cable spring is slid over the end of the choke cable. Then the white plastic choke plate, at far lower left,  is attached to the small barrel end of the choke cable. This is done with the choke cable detached from the lever at the handlebar. When it’s all hooked up, squeezing the choke trigger moves the choke plate forward, blocking off the air. Releasing the choke trigger causes the spring to pull the choke plate back away, allowing full air in for normal running.

Bing Sachs

85/10/101(or A)   85/12/101(or A)   85/12/104 A
for 504-505 1B   for 504-505 1A   for 504-505 1D

Bing Sachs

85/10/101 (or A)   85/12/101 (or A)   85/12/104 A
“A” means slotted float and rubber tip needle.
No “A” means no-slot float and metal tip needle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
101 types channel the idle mixture under the slide. A deeper slide channel makes a richer idle mixture.
      Fill in the idle channel with epoxy to make the idle mixture leaner. Grind it deeper to idle richer.
  
104 types have an idle tunnel with a separate fuel hole. A bigger idle hole makes a richer idle mixture.
      But it is not removable and not easily serviced.
 
Remember that once the throttle slide is raised up (opened), the idle channel and (to a lesser degree) the jet needle have no more effect. At full throttle only the main jet matters, pretty much. 
 
Bing 14.5mm throttle slides

Left 3 have idle channels and jet needle holes.
Right has no idle channel and no needle hole.
The twin holes joined together are for the cable.

Bing Sachs early and late

85/12/101 A              85/12/104 A
Left, the 101A needle jet unscrews.
Rt, 104A is molded-in under the jet.
Note the new and used float colors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Slot Position angle is expressed as the time on a clock. All four slides above have the intake side at 12 o’clock and the engine side at 6 o’clock. Then from the bottom view, “Sachs” is at 3 o’clock, “Solo” is at 12 o’clock, “Kreidler” is at 10 o’clock, and “Sachs D” is at 3 o’clock. Slides that have the same diameter and slot position can interchange, in most cases. Other 14.5mm slides are “Jawa” (early Sachs) at 12 o’clock, and “Allstate” (early Puch) at 12 o’clock. 

 


Kreidler redbing crown3.  B I N G   K R E I D L E R   C A R B S
    10 or 12mm     clamp size 16mm

Kreidler Flory carb 1-10-126, identical to 1/12/260

Kreidler Flory carb 1-10-126, identical to 1/12/260

 

Late 1970’s Kreidler Flory MP-9 and MP-19 mopeds are US models, 30mph (2.0hp), with Bing 1/12/260 (12mm) carbs. Other Flory models in Europe are 25kmh (17mph) with Bing 1/10/126 (10mm) carbs. The “bell” outer diameter is 54mm, same as the Solo Bing below.

 

# qty Kreidler#  price  description                                             
1a 1 215.19.99a  N/A   carburetor 1/12/260 has metal-tip needle, no-slot float
1b 1 215.19.99b  N/A   carburetor 1/12/268 has rubber-tip needle, slotted float
2a 1  07.15.08   $6.00 clamp screw M5 x 15  thin shank (clamp size 16)
3a 1  07.16.06    N/A    float no slot   substitute slotted float & rubber needle
3b 1  07.16.06b $3.00 float with slot for rubber tip needle
4a 1  07.15.44   $39.0 float needle metal for no slot float
4b 1  07.15.44b $15.0 float needle rubber for slotted float
5
   1  607.15.1  $4.00 hinge pin (Bing Puch 19)
6   1  07.15.05  $8.00 float bowl (Bing Puch 21)
7   1  07.15.32  $3.50 ring seal (Bing Puch 22)
8   1  07.16.20  $15.0 needle jet 2.17  (Bing Puch 2b)
9   1  07.15.41  $7.00 3.5mm main jet #68
10 1  07.15.12  $18.0 needle 2-mark 36mm (Bing Puch 4a)
11 1  07.15.15  $20.0 fuel inlet vertical type M8x0.75   
11 1  07.15.15s $20.0 fuel inlet swivel type Puch 24+25+26
12 1  07.15.21  $15.0 fuel strainer (Bing Puch 27)
13 2  07.15.25  $1.00 fuel inlet seal washer M8 
14 1  07.15.14  $3.00 idle screw M5-0.8 (Bing Puch 16)
15 1  07.15.22  $3.00 idle screw spring  (Bing Puch 17)
16 1  07.15.99  $35.0 slide Ø14.5 #10  says “10  B”
17 1  07.15.18  $3.00 clip for needle  (Bing-Sachs 6)
18 1  07.15.55  $1.50 disk washer  (Bing-Sachs 7)
19 1  07.15.23   N/A    slide spring Ø11 x 42  
20 1  07.16.25   N/A    carb top cover    smaller than Puch
21 2  07.16.23  $1.50 carb top screw (Bing Puch 10)
22 1  07.16.12   N/A    choke rod 35mm (use 38mm Bing-Puch 33)
22 1  07.16.12s $4.00 choke rod substitute 38mm   
23 1  07.16.13   N/A    push button  goes on top of choke rod, not needed
24 1  07.15.27   N/A    top gasket   smaller than Puch
25 1  07.15.20  $20.0 choke slide 14 wide,  can grind down a Puch one

 

 

Solo Bingsolobing crown4.  B I N G   S O L O   C A R B S
8 or 10mm    clamp size 16mm

 

a    N/A    carburetor Bing 1/10/112      
1    N/A    vinyl tubing 14 x 2 x 178
2    N/A    intake silencer
3   $30.0 air filter insert
4    N/A    intake silencer clamp
5   $20.0 float slotted type Bing Puch 18
6   $15.0 float needle for slotted  Bing Puch 20
7   $8.00 float bowl  Bing Puch 21
8   $3.50 bowl gasket Bing Puch 22
9   $7.00 main jet 58  
10 $15.0 needle jet 2.12  Bing Puch 2a
11 $20.0 fuel line nipple M8 x 0.75  Bing Kreidler 11
11 $20.0 inlet swivel type assy Puch 24,25,26
12 $1.00 gasket M8  Bing Puch 26
13 $3.00 idle screw M5-0.8  Bing Puch 16
14 $3.00 screw spring   Bing Puch 17
15   none choke plate
16   none stud
17   none safety washer
18   none torsion spring
19   none pivot screw
20 $33.0 throttle slide Ø14.5 “16” see photo above
21   none  jet needle 31mm 1-mark
22 $3.00 needle holder Bing Sachs 6
23 $1.50 washer Bing Sachs 7
24 $10.0 slide spring Ø11 x 36 Bing Sachs 8
25 $28.0 top cover M18 x 1.0 with M6 x 0.75 adj. threads
26 $4.00 cable adjuster M6 x 0.75
27 $2.50 adjuster nut M6 x 0.75
28 $4.00 float hinge pin Bing Puch 19
29 $6.00 clamp screw M5 x 15 Bing Kreidler 2

Bing 1/10/112

Bing 1/10/112 for Solo/Colombia 40kmh (26mph)

Bing 1-8-102 w/air box, for Solo 25kmh (16mph)

Bing 1-8-102 w/air box, for Solo 25kmh (16mph)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Solo Odyssey motor

Solo Odyssey motor

 

This carburetor is for low powered mopeds (mofas), case-reed-valve engines, that position the carburetor way down almost below the engine. The choke is remote, by cable. There is no primer (because you could not reach it if there was). Otherwise it is very close to the Kreidler Bing, with the same size Ø16 mount, Ø14.5 slide (but a different slot position), same float, float needle, float bowl, M5 idle screw, needle, needle jet, and M3.5 main jet (but different numbers).    

 

 


bing crown5.  B I N G   J A W A   C A R B S

 Made for 1950’s – 60’s Sachs 502/2, 502/3 

 #  #  price    Jawa#       description                  
  1 23  N/A    09-140  air filter 
  2   4 $28.0 21-050  screw cap M18x1 Bing Solo 25
  3 00  N/A    35-922  float w/needle  bigger than Encarwi
     24  N/A    35-022  float only 
     26  N/A    47-120  float needle only
  4   2 $2.50 45-502  adj nut M6x0.75
  5   9 $22.0 46-042  jet needle 33mm
     10  none  46-031  jet needle 31mm
  6   1 $4.00 50-042  adjuster M6x0.75
  7   8 $3.00 57-200  needle clip Bing Sachs 6
  8   6 $10.0 60-300  throttle spring Bing Sachs 8 
 8a  7 $1.50 57-023  plate/washer Bing Sachs 7
  9 20  N/A    61-469  air box clamp/clip
10 11  N/A    22-150  slide Ø14.5 “24” slot faces intake 
10 12  N/A    22-151  slide Ø14.5 “32” slot faces intake
10 12 $28.0 22-sub  slide Ø14.5 “16” Bing Solo 20
11 03  N/A    32-032-101 float lid w/seat
11a 5  N/A    65-720  seal ring
12 13  N/A    44-931-101/62  main jet 
12 13  N/A    44-931-101/64  main jet
12 13  N/A    44-931-101/66  main jet
14 14  N/A    45-111  needle jet 
15 15  N/A    45-112  needle jet
16 16 $2.00 65-143  seal washer 10 x 14
17 17  none  50-148  plug M10x1 
19 19 $35.0 26-625  filter cap metal, not replica
21 21  N/A    65-775  seal 
22 22  N/A    65-750  seal
     25  N/A    40-420  clamp screws (2)  on some versions
27 27 $3.00 49-020  cottor pin Bing Puch 31
28 28  N/A    40-430  locking screw
29 29  N/A    60-020  primer spring
31 31  N/A    48-925  primer/tickler
33 33  N/A    40-413  float screws (2)
34 34 $3.00 idle screw M5x0.8 Bing Puch 16
35 35 $3.00 idle screw spring   Bing Puch 17

 

Bing Jawa 1/12/315

Bing 1/12/315

 

 

 

 

 

Bing Jawa 1/12/325

Bing 1/12/325

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bing 1/12/169

Bing Jawa 1-12-239 replica

Bing 1/12/239 replica

Originally all metal, this carburetor and intake silencer was made for the early Sachs 502 vertical cylinder moped engine, 1,2, or 3 speed, kick start or pedals, from the 1950’s and 1960’s. The name Bing “Jawa” should be called Bing “Sachs 502”, since it fits those engines like a glove. Then Bing “Sachs” here should be Bing “Sachs 504/505 A”, to be more correct, globally.

There is no choke slide that blocks the air like on other Bings. Instead the primer holds the float down until gasoline overflows into the venturi. That provides the rich mixture for cold starting.

Sachs Saxonette 1950's -60's moped engine with early Bing carburetor

1960’s Sachs 502/2
Bing carb made for it

1965 Hercules moped with Sachs 2-speed grip-shift engine

1965 Hercules moped
Sachs 502/2 (2-speed)

50’s Sachs 502/3 (3-spd)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jawa used this classic German carburetor from 1979 to 1983, only after it was obsolete, and only on their highest power 1.7kW models. Those were the 40km/h (25mph) Supreme 2, type 207-394 (Babetta 207-504 in Europe), and the 50km/h (30mph) Supreme 3, type 207-392 (X 30 207-385 in Europe). All other Jawa Babetta models were 1.1kW or less, 40km/h (25mph) or less, with a smaller 9mm Jikov 2909 carburetors.

1982 Jawa Supreme 2

1982 Jawa Supreme 2
type 207-394 (Canada)

1979 Jawa X30 (Euro model)

1979 Jawa X30
type 207-385 (for Euro)

 

Apparently most, if not all, of the USA models of “Supreme 2” and “Supreme 3” have the 9mm Jikov carburetors, not the 12mm Bing. Of about 20 Jawa Supreme 2 and 3, found on the internet, all had 9mm Jikov carbs. Only the two at left had 12mm Bings. Yet the Bing “Jawa” carb is in the later 207-300 series American Jawa Parts Catalog.

 

 

 


Allstate BingSears Allstatebing crown6.  B I N G    A L L S T A T E     C A R B S

 

 

pic  Sears no.   description    size        price   notes 
1   050.1520 xxx $4.00 cable adjuster M5 x 0.80
2   050.1517 xxx $0.40 adjuster nut M5 x 0.80
3   050.1519 xxx  N/A   top cover outer M18 x 1.0
4   050.1518 xxx  N/A   top inner with tube bend
5   050.1531 xxx $10.0 throttle spring  Bing Sachs 8
6   050.1513 xxx $3.00 needle clip  Bing Sachs 6
6a 350.115.0141 $1.50 washer Bing Sachs 7   
7   050.1516 xxx  N/A    jet needle (state 1 or 2 marks)
7   sub.0516 xxx   none  jet needle 31mm 1-mark
8   050.1515 xxx $33.0 throttle slide (state number) see Bing Solo 20
9   050.1555 xxx   none choke spring Bing Solo 18
10 050.1552 xxx    none shoulder screw Bing Solo 19
11 050.1529 xxx   N/A   spring clip for air filter
12 050.1540.2 x  $30.0 air filter screen Bing Puch 43
15 350.415.0561   none cable nipple  Bing Solo 16
16 050.1559 xxx   none locking plate Bing Solo 17
17 050.1553 xxx   none choke slide  Bing Solo 15
18 050.1509/62   N/A   main jet size 62
19 050.1535 xxx  N/A   float top screws (2)
20 364.115.0322  N/A   float top with seat  also has primer/tickler
21 050.1536 xxx  N/A   float chamber gasket
22 050.1530 xxx  N/A   float needle
23 050.1525 xxx  N/A   float
24 050.10.1501   N/A   carburetor body bare
25 900.1107 xxx $0.50 hex bolt M6 x 25 (2)
26 24804 xxxxx  $0.20 plain washer M6 (2)
27 050.1521 xxx  N/A   intake gasket/heat block looks like Tomos A3
28 050.1508 xxx  N/A   needle jet (state number)  Bing Jawa 14,15
29 27071 xxxxx  $2.00 seal washer 10 x 14mm
30 050.1523 xxx none  screw plug M10 x 1.0
31 050.1511 xxx  N/A   idle screw M4 x 0.7 is this an Encarwi one?
32 24771 xxxxx  $0.40 idle screw nut M4x0.7

 

 

 

 
 
 
Allstate Bing Diagram

Here is a beautiful cut-away illustration from the Danish website veteranknallertklub.dk. The venturi is 12mm diameter. The curved pipe is about 13mm. The jet and jet holder are a single piece, like the Bing “early Sachs”. The choke cable and plate are the same as Bing “Solo”, with a “carb” end on the choke cable. The screw-on top cap is M18x1.0 thread and M6x0.75 cable elbow/stop, Ø14.5 slide with slot facing the intake (like other early Bings), and jet needle, are interchangeable with Bing “Solo” and Bing “Jawa or early Sachs”.

From the left drawing, sliced vertically front to back, you can see the little pin that locates the throttle slide, near where the choke cable comes in at. Like the other early Bings “Solo” and “Jawa”, the slot in the throttle slide faces the intake, so the throttle slides interchange (but not with “1970’s Sachs” and “Kreidler”). 

  
 

Puch used this Bing “Allstate” 12mm carburetor on the MS50 (Moped Stahlblech – steel sheet) series from the 1950’s to the 1970’s. In 1969 Puch indroduced the Maxi moped, with an all new carburetor design. That carburetor, called Bing “Puch” or “round Bing” was in use from 1969 to 1986. It is way more familiar to Americans because of the moped buying frenzy in the late 1970’s. In the early 1980’s Puch developed their advanced technology future moped. But sales were down, and something like internal fraud contributed to Puch going out of business after over a century. If they had kept going, we would have an abundance of parts for the Bing “Austro Daimler” carburetor below.

 

Austro Daimlerbing crown7.  B I N G    A U S T R O – D A I M L E R

Steyr-Daimler-Puch was so proud of the replacement for the Maxi, that they named it after their hand crafted performance bicycle line, and their 1899-1934 Austrian automobile name, Austro-Daimler. Not much on the 1984-86 Puch A-D was the same as the elderly Maxi. This 12mm Bing carburetor is 1990’s technology. Notice the light throttle spring, possible with modern nylon lined cables and low friction throttle parts. In the US, this carb was also on the 1995-96 Manet-Puch Korado.

# qty price   description           
1
    1 idle speed screw
 1 jet o-ring
4   2 $0.50 top screw M4 x 16 phillips
5   1   N/A   top cover
6   1   N/A   top gasket
7   1   N/A   throttle spring
8   1   N/A   spring cup  has nylon slide tab
9   1 $2.00 jet needle clip
10  1 $18.0 jet needle (substitute) see Puch 4
11  1   N/A   throttle slide
12  1   N/A   choke spring
13  1   N/A   choke slide
14  1 $0.80 inlet screw M4-0.7 x 16           
15  1   N/A   seal washer
16  1   N/A   inlet banjo (bigger)
17  1   N/A   fuel filter
18  1   N/A   idle mixture screw o-ring
19  1   N/A   idle mixture screw
20  1   N/A   idle speed screw spring
22  1 $3.00 clamp screw M6x20 special 
24  1   N/A   pilot jet
25  1   N/A   needle jet
26  1   none 4.0 main jet #54 (2.0hp)
26  1   none 4.0 main jet #52 (1.5hp)
30  1   N/A   air filter hose clamp
31  1 $12.0 float bowl gasket
32  1 $15.0 float needle
33  1 $30.0 float
34  1   N/A   hinge pin (bigger)
35  1   N/A   float bowl
36  1   N/A   clamp mount plastic sleeve  not shown
37  1   N/A   carburetor (2.0hp) 18/12/107
37  1   N/A   carburetor (1.5hp) 18/12/106

 

 

 

Bing 18-12-118 carb

Bing 18-12-118 carb

Bing 18-12-118 carb

Bing 18-12-118 carb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Magnum X BingPuch Magnum X8.  B I N G    M A G N U M – X    C A R B S

Bing 17mm replica carb for Puch Magnum X

 

The Puch Magnum-X was a off road mini-motorcycle. It had a moped engine, but was not limited in power and speed like the street-legal mopeds were. So it had a bigger 17mm carb instead of 14 or 12. It looks like a Kreidler Bing, but is larger.

 

 

# qty price   description         
1
    1 N/A    carburetor 1/17/169 replica carbs are sold online
2    1 $2.00 cable boot rubber substitute
3    1 $4.00 cable adjuster M6 x 0.75 
4    1 $2.50 lock nut thin M6 x 0.75
5    1 $15.0 carb top (bigger)
6    1 N/A    top gasket (bigger)
7    1 N/A    throttle spring (bigger)
8    1 N/A    washer (bigger)
9    1 N/A    needle clip (bigger)
10  1 $18.0 jet needle 36mm 1-mark
11  1 N/A    throttle slide   bigger than Puch
12  1 N/A    carburetor body bare
13  1 $8.00 float bowl
14  1 $20.0 float slotted type
15  1 $15.0 float needle rubber tip type                 
16  1 $4.00 hinge pin                     
17  1 $3.50 bowl gasket
18  1 $8.00 needle jet 2.22
19  1   none main jet #84                 
20  1 $20.0 fuel inlet M8 x 0.75
20  1 $20.0 fuel inlet swivel type assy, see Puch 24,25,26   
21  1 $1.00 seal washer M8 
22  1 $15.0 fuel filter screen
23  1 N/A    choke rod
24  1 $2.00 choke clip
25  1 $12.0 choke slide (bigger)
26  2 $1.50 top screws M4 special
27  1 N/A    idle screw M6 x 0.75
28  1 N/A    idle screw spring
29  1 $3.00 clamp screw M6x20 special 
30  1 $3.00 primer/tickler               
31  1 $7.00 primer spring               
32  1 $3.00 cottor pin                     
33  1 N/A    air jet

 

Bing Magnum-X cut away

Here is a beautiful cut-away grey-scale illustration, from the Danish website veteranknallertklub.dk. This Bing has the all-metal float needle 15. The float has no slot because it only pushes on the needle. The Puch Magnum-X Bing above has the rubber-tip float needle that has a T top that slides into a slot in the float. On that kind, the float can push and pull on the needle. The all-metal type is on older Bings, in general.

This Bing has an idle air jet 33. This helps to break up the liquid gasoline into smaller droplets, like a mist.