Gas caps, gas valves, speedometers, seats, frame

CONTENTS:  Welcome    1  Gas Valves   2  Gas Caps    3  Seats & Parts    4  Speedometer Part  5 Reflectors

6  Covers & Panels (temporary)    7  Forks (temporary)    8  Rear Shocks   9 Frame Parts

Welcome to: gas valves, gas caps, seats, speedometers, speedo cables, speedo drivers, reflectors, covers and panels, rear shocks, front forks, frame parts. This parts category is not as simple and uniform as the others. The only thing a seat, a gas valve, a reflector and a speedo cable have in common is they’re in this category! 

 1  G A S    V A L V E S

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Gas Valve Petcock M10 x 1 male thread spigot goes out left

1 Gas Valve
10×1 male
spigot left

Gas Valve M12x1 female spigot left

2 Gas Valve
12×1 female
spigot left

Gas Valve M16x1 female spigot down

3 Gas Valve
16x1female
spigot down

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Part # # ←picture#………Description Price      Applications
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408200 3 gas valve 16×1 spigot down $20 Sparta Foxi/ Puch Magnum
KTMgas gas valve 16×1 side mount $40 KTM use 401400 plus $20 for 12-16mm adaptor
633783 gas valve 14×1 spigot down $20 Honda Express Yamaha QT50 General ST
Diablo gas valve 14×1.25 $25 Derbi Diablo, RD50 dirt bike mopeds
401400 gas valve 12×1 side mount $20 Puch Maxi/Vespa Ciao
229169 gas valve 12×1 spigot left extend knob $20 Tomos A35 Targa/Vespa Grande
403100 gas valve 12×1 spigot down $18 Batavus/Garelli/Sears/Sachs/JC Penney
continued Motobecane Sebring/Kreidler/others
continued Cimatti with original 10M-12F adaptor
continued Colombia (tube frame w/sideways valve)
2 gas valve 12×1 spigot left
227125 gas valve 12×1 spigot left early Tomos N/A Tomos Bullet/A35 Sprint/Vespa Bravo
233727 gas valve 12×1 spigot right universal $20 Tomos top tank
403200 1 gas valve 10×1 male spig L Motobecane $20 Motobecane
403300 gas valve 10×1 male spig L Peugeot $20 Peugeot/Cimatti without adaptor
must remove Cimatti R tank to install
none gas line 3/16″ clear nylon per foot $1 all
Yconn gas line “Y” connector 3/16 for “gauge” $2 all
151920 gas filter inline 1/4″ (tight) clear $5 for bigger 1/4″ fuel line
209.6 gas filter inline 3/16″ green $5 for mopeds
151921 gas filter inline 1/4″ (tight) angled $5 for bigger 1/4″ motorcycle fuel line
121585 gas filter inline 3/16″ clear round $4 most popular one for stock mopeds

 2  G A S    C A P S

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Gas caps come in 4 types. 1. Quarter turn, 2. Push in, 3. Screw in, 4. Pop up. Each type has different sizes.

 

Quarter turn gas lids on mopeds. L to R, 30, 40, 60mm

30, 40, 60mm quarter turn moped gas lids

Quarter turn has two “wings” on opposite sides that enter two slots in the gas tank lip. Then when the gas cap is rotated 90 degrees to the right, which is one fourth of a turn, it locks on and seals the outer edge by the spring tension in the wings. European quarter turn gas lid wings are about 2mm deeper than Asian quarter turn gas lid wings. So to use a Puch Maxi gas lid on a Honda Express, you need to add an extra rubber washer 2mm thick (or possibly bend the wings).

Push in lid gas tanks have a smooth round wall, about as deep as it is wide. The lids are usually black plastic with thin flexible circular ridges that press against the wall. The entrance has a taper for easy operation. In the 1976 USA moped standards, push in gas lids were supposedly required to be quarter turn. Puch and Garelli switched from push-in to quarter-turn but not everyone else did. Again in 2010, quarter turn gas caps are mandated in the USA, this time not for safety reasons, but for environmental ones. Most 1970′s Peugeot push in lids have shrunk and require an o-ring to restore the size.

Screw in lid gas tanks have threads. The lid must be screwed on one or more full turns clockwise. The threads on the lid can be either female (inner) or male (outer). Many of the old Garelli screw-in female lids have shrunk. More on the threads later.

Pop up gas lids are generally on top tank mopeds and modern motorcycles. Turn the key and the lid pops open. 

 

1. 1/4 turn 32mm chrome bottom view

1. qtr-turn 30mm
chrome bottom view
30 is the tank ID

1. 1/4 turn 32mm chrome top view

1. qtr-turn 30mm
chrome top view
30 is the tank ID

2. 1/4 turn 32mm locking

2. qtr-turn 30mm chrome locking

3. pop-up clamp-on

3. pop-up clamp-on
Clamps on to 45mm gas lid lips.
45 is the tank OD

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. qtr-turn 40mm black

4. qtr-turn 40mm
black plain

5. qtr-turn 60mm black locking

5. qtr-turn 60mm
black locking

6. qtr-turn 40mm black locking

6. qtr-turn 40mm
black locking
40 is the tank ID

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

7. qtr-turn 32mm used Puch w/cup

7. qtr-turn 30mm
used chrome Puch
with oil measuring cup

8. qtr-turn 32mm used alum Puch

8. qtr-turn 30mm
used alum Puch

9. push-in 30mm black

9. push-in 30mm
black

10. qtr-turn 40mm chrome with qtr-turn 32mm

10. qtr-turn 40mm
(with qtr-turn 30mm)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

11. pop-up locking chrome General

11. pop-up locking
chrome General
(not available)

12. qtr-turn 32mm chrome Puch used

12. qtr-turn 30mm
chrome Puch used

13. screw-in Motobecane chrome locking

13. screw-in male
Motobecane
chrome locking

14. screw-in Motobecane chrome new w/dipstick

14. screw-in male Motobecane
chrome new with dipstick

 

 

 

15. screw-in male Motobecane used

15. screw-in
male for MB

16. screw-in female Vespa/Piaggio

16. screw-in female
Vespa/Piaggio

17. push-in 32mm Puch aftermarket

17. push-in 30mm
Puch aftermarket

 

18. push-in 30mm Hercules/Sachs

18. push-in 30mm
Hercules/Sachs

20. push-in 40mm "Puch" Korado

19. push-in 40mm
“Puch” Korado

 

20. qtr-tur 40mm chrome locking

20. qtr-turn 40mm
chrome locking
with two keys

 

 

 

 

21. qtr-turn 32mm chrome Garelli

21. qtr-turn 30mm
chrome Garelli

22. screw-in female Garelli black

22. screw-in female
Garelli black
the kind that shrinks

 

23. qtr-turn 32mm black (with widths)

23. qtr-turn 30mm
black (with widths)

 

24. qtr-turn 60mm chrome Peugeot

24. qtr-turn 60mm
chrome Peugeot

26. push-in 32mm Derbi shows how some shrink to 30mm

26. push-in 32mm Derbi
shows how some shrink
to 30mm

26. Derbi 8204140 gas lid left - '76-86 not shrunk right - '86-89 shrunk to 30

26. Derbi 8204140 gas lid
left – ’76-86 not shrunk
rt – ’86-89 shrunk to 30

25. push-in 36mm Derbi Laguna

25. push-in 36mm
Derbi Laguna

Part # # ←picture#………Description Price      Applications
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206401 1 gas cap 1/4 turn 30mm (tank) chrome $10 77-later Puch Tomos Sparta many
222145 23 gas cap 1/4 turn 30mm (tank) black N/A 77-later Puch Tomos Sparta many
gas cap 1/4 turn 30mm chro Puch w/cup $50 77-later Puch Tomos Sparta many
8 gas cap 1/4 turn 30mm alum used Puch $25 77-later Puch Tomos Sparta many
12 gas cap 1/4 turn 30mm chro. used Puch $25 77-later Puch Tomos Sparta many
7 gas cap 1/4 turn 30mm used Puch w/cup $40 77-later Puch Tomos Sparta many
2 gas cap 1/4 turn 30mm chrome locking $17 77-later Puch Tomos Sparta many
21 gas cap 1/4 turn 30mm chrome Garelli $35 Garelli and other Italian mopeds
632610 10 gas cap 1/4 turn 40mm chrome $10 Tomos top tank, Puch top tank, Sears
4 gas cap 1/4 turn 40mm black N/A Tomos top tank, Puch top tank, Sears
gas cap 1/4 turn 40mm chrome Puch $45 Tomos top tank, Puch top tank, Sears
6 gas cap 1/4 turn 40mm black locking $25 Tomos top tank, Puch top tank, Sears
20 gas cap 1/4 turn 40mm chrome locking $17 Tomos top tank, Puch top tank, Sears
24 gas cap 1/4 turn 60mm chrome Peugeot $30 Peugeot top tank
5 gas cap 1/4 turn 60mm black locking $30 Peugeot top tank
9 gas cap push-in 30mm aftermarket N/A Peugeot, Garelli (some)
18 gas cap push-in 30mm Hercules/Sachs N/A early Hercules/Sachs
17 gas cap push-in 32mm Puch/KTM N/A early Puch, KTM, Derbi
19 gas cap push-in 40mm Puch Korado N/A Puch Korado (made by Manet)
gas cap push-in 50mm Testi/Gitane $15 Gitane (made by Testi)
14 gas cap screw-on male MB chrome new $45 Motobecane 50 and 40
gas cap screw-on male MB plastic new $30 Motobecane 50 and 40
15 gas cap screw-on male MB chrome used $30 Motobecane 50 and 40
13 gas cap screw-on male MB chro locking $40 Motobecane 50 and 40
gas cap screw-on male MB 7 plastic new $35 Motobecane 7 (bigger)
16 gas cap screw-on female Vespa 1-5/8″ $30 Vespa mopeds: Ciao,Bravo,Grande
22 gas cap screw-on female Garelli N/A early Garelli top tank
gas cap screw-on female Vespa Si $30 Vespa Si, bigger than Ciao/Bravo/Grande
11 gas cap pop-up 50mm General top tank N/A Gitane 50mm lid fits General tank
3 gas cap pop-up clamps on $12 semi-universal fits 40-45mm outer lips
Puch Maxi tank qtr-turn 32mm

1977 Puch Maxi tank
qtr-turn 30mm

Puch Maxi tank push-in 32mm

1974 Puch Maxi tank
push-in 30mm
#17 is a copy of this lid

Garelli Super Sport screw-in (female lid)

Garelli Super Sport tank
screw-in (female lid)

Garelli Super Sport tank quarter-turn 32mm

Garelli Super Sport tank
quarter-turn 30mm

Derbi Variant tank 32mm

76-89 Derbi Variant
gas tank 32mm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Part # # ←picture#………Description Price..      Applications
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bicycle seats have a 7/8″=22mm clamp seat poles are 24-35mm w/22mm top end
many used seats for walk-in sales only coming soon: seat pole sizes &      Apps
4904 seat single w/springs $20 any moped with a bicycle-style seat pole
36096 seat single deluxe w/springs $30 any moped with a bicycle-style seat pole
36098 seat single deluxe XL with/springs $40 any moped with a bicycle-style seat pole
seat single Puch original fresh $120 Puch Maxi
seat single Puch recovered w/pleats $100 Puch Maxi
seat single Peugeot new w/1″post $40 Peugeot 103 and others with 1″ hole
36211 seat banana small black for 16″ bike $20 requires rear sissy bar Do It Yourself
36221 seat banana med black for 20″bike $20 requires rear sissy bar DIY
36296 seat banana large black for 26″bike $20 requires rear sissy bar DIY
seat long with F&R mounts $100 requires bicycle-style seat pole
front mount for Puch Maxi long seat $20 Puch Maxi replaces the pole
seat medium for Puch Sport N/A Puch Sport and Sport MkII
seat long for Batavus HS50 fresh $150 Batavus HS50/Mobat xlnt cond
seat long for Vespa Grande rough $20 covered tightly in cloth fabric

 

 4  S P E E D O M E T E R S

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Speedo Basics:  Speedometers on mopeds are all mechanical type, not electronic. A “driver” or “sender” on the front wheel rotates the cable. The cable, with a spinning wire inside, goes up to the speedometer “gauge” or “head”. Inside the head a spinning magnet moves the needle. An “odometer” or mileage meter is also driven by the cable, with gears.  Either the speedometer or odometer can work without the other, but the both need the cable and driver to be working. So when both speed and miles don’t work, it’s usually caused by a broken cable, and sometimes the driver. If either the speedo or odo works, then the cable and driver must be good.

Speedo Families: There are several brands of moped speedometers: CEV (Italian), VDO (German), Huret (French), Veglia (Italian), plus other minor ones, Stewart Warner (USA), Tatung (Taiwan), Walker licensed by VDO (Spain), and maybe more. Each family has it’s own style of cable wire and cable end piece threads. So a CEV speedo requires a CEV speeedo cable, and a VDO speedo requires a VDO cable, pretty much. In the table below, all of the speedometer specifications and applications are listed. It is under construction…  

CEV Speedometers

CEV

CEV Speedometers

CEV Speedometers, 1970s blue, 1980s black, click to enlarge

Italy Flag

 

 

 

 

 

These are the vintage CEV speedometers for sale. They have all been cleaned, checked, and lubed. 15 out of 17 were originally frozen from “the old grease turning into glue”. It takes days or weeks and dozens of repeated applications of penetrating oil and rotation on a drill, before all of the stickiness is gone. If any stickiness is left behind, it can re-freeze a year later. A frozen speedo will cause the speedo cable to break right away. That is the main reason why 35 year old mopeds often have broken speedo cables. The other reason is the cable gets kinked or tangled.

                   diam      color         max    tested   dev from      odometer            glass/face
  #  mileage  mm  back/text     speed    speed   23.8 avg      condition              condition                  price
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  1   03297   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   24.0      +0.2    works: now 03298    used, cracked             $40
  2   00002   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   10.0     -13.8    works: now 00003    reads very low            $40
  3   00001   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   22.5       -1.3    works: now 00002    new, perfect glass     $100
  4   00009   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   21.0       -2.8    frozen                       only speedo works       $40
  5   01062   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   25.0      +1.2    works: now 01063    used, good “glass”     $100
  6   00001   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   25.0      +1.2    works: now 00002    new, tiny scratches     $90
  7   00847   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   24.0       -0.8    works: now 00848    used, scratched bad    $50
    00001   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   23.0       -1.8    works: now 00002    new, tiny scratches     $80
  9   03751   60  dk blue/wht  60mph   25.0      +1.2    works: now 03752    used, good glass        $130
10   00000   48  white/black   40mph   26.0      +2.2   works: now 00001    new, smaller size        $100                 
11   00000   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   24.0       -0.8    works: now 00001   new in original box      $100
12   00001   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   23.5       -0.3   works: now 00002    new in original box      $100
13   00001   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   24.0      +0.2   works: now 00002    new in original box      $100
14   00000   60  dk blue/wht  40mph   20.5       -3.3   works: now 00001    new in original box       $80
15   05182   60  black/white   40mph   25.0      +1.2   works: now 05183    has a small smudge     $90
16   00995   60  black/white   40mph   25.0      +1.2   works: now 00996    slightly cloudy              $90
17   00084   60  black/white   40mph   27.0      +3.2   works: now 00085    very good “glass”       $110
xx   00367   60  dk blue/wht  40mph    froze       —-   unknown                     for parts only              $20
xx   00000   60  dk blue/wht  40mph    froze       —-   unknown                     for parts only              $20

These CEV speedometers are all tested on the same drill, for comparison of speed accuracy. The odometer accuracy never varies – it either works or not. It takes up to 3 minutes at 20mph to click off one mile. Each speedometer is tested for at least 3 minutes, some over 10 minutes all together. Once all of the 17 tested speeds are retested and verified, an average speed can be calculated. First the highest and lowest are ignored. Then the remaining 15 test speeds are added up and the sum is divided by 15 to give 23.8 average. You can see that most of the speedos tested at 23, 24, or 25 mph. The accuracy is an important factor in determining the price. The condition of the glass, face, and needle are also important. 

Part # # ←picture#………Description Price      Applications
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204200 speedo cable VDO Puch Maxi 25.7″ $15 Puch Maxi, Sparta, Batavus, Flandria
oldver speedo cable VDO Puch 29.5″ $20 Puch Maxi Sears FS red not silver
speedo cable VDO Puch 31.5″ $30 Puch Magnum Sears FS silver
217664 speedo cable VDO Tomos 30.7″=780mm $15 Tomos 04-later many others
213729 speedo cable CEV Tomos 29.5=750mm $15 Tomos 75-04 many others
speedo cable Huret Motobecane/Garelli N/A Motobecane and Garelli
speedo cable Veglia Peugeot N/A Peugeot

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To be added to later. Many reflectors are available.

 

6  C O V E R S   &   P A N E L S

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Part # # ←picture#………Description Price      Applications
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410200 side panel set Puch black new $50 Puch 1-spd step-thrus 74-86
side panel set Puch black used xlnt $60 Puch 1-spd step-thrus 74-86
side panel set Puch black used rough $30 Puch 1-spd step-thrus 74-86
side panel set Puch2sp black used xlnt $70 Puch 2-spd step-thrus 78-86
side panel set Puch2sp black used rough $40 Puch 2-spd step-thrus 78-86
side panel set Puch Magnum black N/A Puch top-tanks/Sears Free Spirit
204900 side panel screw w/knob Puch M5x45 $8 Puch Maxi: 2 on right 1 on left
205100 side panel screw w/knob Puch M5x35 $8 Puch Maxi: 2 on left 1 on right
632607 side panel screw w/knob Puch M5x15 $5 Puch Magnum/Sears Free Spirit
side panel screw phillips Puch M5x45 $1 replaces original costs less
side panel screw phillipsPuch M5x35 $1 replaces original costs less
side panel screw wide slot M5x15 $1 Peugeot/Puch Magnum/Sears/others
side panel set Peugeot 103 black remake $60 Peugeot 103
side panel set Peugeot 102 used good $60 Peugeot 102
side panel set Motobecane 50 used rough $60 Motobecane Mobylette 50/50V
side panel set Motobecane 40 new white $100 Motobecane Mobylette 40 hard tail
side panel screw Motobecane M5x0.9×15 N/A must tap to M5x0.8
side panel screw wide slot M5x0.8×15 $1 replaces MB after re-threading
side panel set Tomos A3 used metal N/A Tomos 75-95
side panel set Tomos A35 used plastic N/A Tomos 96-06
side panel R Tomos A35 gloss black new $55 Tomos 96-06 ST LX
side panel L Tomos A35 gloss black new $55 Tomos 96-06 ST LX
side panel R Tomos A55 gloss black new $65 Tomos 07-on Sprint ST LX non-black
side panel L Tomos A55 gloss black new $55 Tomos 07-on Sprint ST LX non-black
side panel R Tomos A55 flat black new $65 Tomos 07-on Sprint ST LX black frame
side panel L Tomos A55 flat black new $55 Tomos 07-on Sprint ST LX black frame
side panel R Tomos A55 chrome new $70 Tomos 01-on Revival Streetmate
side panel L Tomos A55 chrome new $60 Tomos 01-on Revival Streetmate
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magneto cover Sachs 504 chrome used $15 Foxi/Sachs/Flying Dutchman
magneto cover Sachs 505 bigger used $15 Sachs Balboa/Prima/General/others
magneto cover Puch used rough $15 Puch
magneto cover Peugeot alum rough $15 Peugeot
magneto cover Motobecane rough $20 Motobecane
magneto cover Batavus 76-78 N/A Batavus M48 engine
magneto cover Batavus 78-79/Trac 79-83 $20 Batavus M56 engine later became Trac

 

 

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Part # # ←picture#………Description Price      Applications
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…… F…R…O…N…T……F…O…R…K…S……
fork assy used straight Puch Maxi $100 Puch Maxi
fork assy used straight Motobecane $80 Motobecane
fork assy used straight Tomos early $100 Tomos 75-85
fork assy used straight Tomos N/A Tomos 86-06
fork assy used straight Batavus $100 Batavus 76-78
fork assy used straight Peugeot 103 LVS $100 Peugeot 103 LVS 76-80
fork assy used straight Peugeot 103 SP N/A Peugeot 103 SP 78-80 longer
many other used straight forks call
fork assy new Tomos Sprint/ST/LX silver $180 Tomos 07-later Sprint/ST/LX
fork assy new Tomos Revival longer silver $180 Tomos 07-later Revival&Streetmate
fork assy new Tomos Streetmate-R black $180 Tomos 07-later Revival&Streetmate
fork tube one Peugeot 103 LVS new $50 Peugeot 103 LVS 76-80
fork tube one Peugeot 103 SP new $65 Peugeot 103 SP 78-80 longer
fork tube one Tomos A35 new $40 Tomos A3/A35 86-06
fork tube one used w/bushings Puch $45 Puch Maxi 75-86
fork bushing one nylon Puch Maxi $20 scarce Puch Maxi 75-86
fork top nut open hole early Puch Maxi $8 fits almost all mopeds
fork top nut closed late Puch Maxi $10 fits almost all mopeds

 

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Part # # ←picture#………Description Price      Applications
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…… R… E…A…R……S…H…O…C…K…S……
shocks pair 11″… …280x10mm HD chrome $75 Tomos all except Revival&Streetmate
shocks pair 2″… …305x12mm HD chrome $70 Puch Maxi requires old 8×12 sleeves
shocks pair 12.3/4″ 325x10mm HD chrome $70 raises-up a regular Tomos
221032 shock one 12.3/4″ 325x10mm StreetmateR $50 Tomos Streetmate-R compliant

 

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